Israeli strikes across Gaza kill at least 235 Palestinians and shatter ceasefire with Hamas [Update @post#234]

[Farhan The Man]

Israel has ‘no choice’ but to continue fighting in Gaza, says Netanyahu

And with this single statement. It's now to the death.

My mum always said god gives courage to only those who are on the side of truth.

They never bow down, nor retreat. Nor ceasefire.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

And with this single statement. It's now to the death.

My mum always said god gives courage to only those who are on the side of truth.

They never bow down, nor retreat. Nor ceasefire.

I Presume, by this you mean The Palestinians. Opressed for the best part of a Century. Only through Divine intervention, people hold on to this strength.

 

[deltexas]

Hamas formally rejects Israeli ceasefire offer

Hamas has formally rejected Israel's latest ceasefire offer, saying it is prepared to immediately negotiate a deal that would see the release of all remaining hostages in return for an end to the war and the release of Palestinian prisoners.

In a video statement, Hamas' chief negotiator, Khalil al-Hayya, said: "We will not accept partial deals that serve [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu's political agenda."

Fifty-nine hostages remain in captivity and 24 are thought to be alive. Israel's latest offer involved a 45-day ceasefire in return for the release of 10 hostages.

Far-right Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said it was time "to open the gates of hell" on Hamas.

Hamas officials had already indicated to the BBC earlier in the week that they would reject the plan.

"Netanyahu and his government use partial agreements as a cover for their political agenda, which is based on continuing the war of extermination and starvation, even if the price is sacrificing all his prisoners [hostages]," Hayya said.

He added the group was "ready to immediately negotiate a deal to swap all hostages with an agreed number of Palestinians jailed by Israel" and end the war.

Hamas has previously said it would contemplate an overall deal to end the war but the two sides are nowhere near any kind of agreement that would bring that about.

Israel's stated aim is the complete disarmament and destruction of Hamas. Meanwhile dozens of Gazans are dying each day in air strikes with no humanitarian aid entering the strip at all.

The latest series of Israeli strikes killed at least 37 people, the majority of them displaced civilians living in a tented camp, according to Gaza's Hamas-run civil defence agency.

Witnesses in al-Mawasi said dozens of Palestinians including children had died after tents were set ablaze following a "powerful" explosion.

"I rushed outside and saw the tent next to mine engulfed in flames," a man told the BBC's Gaza Lifeline programme.

The Israeli military did not immediately comment but said that it was looking into reports of the strikes.

Israel has previously told Palestinians to evacuate from other parts of Gaza to al-Mawasi.

The Israeli military said attacks over the past two days had "struck over 100 terror targets" including "terrorist cells, military structures and infrastructure sites".

Israel said there was no shortage of aid and that it was maintaining the blockade installed on 1 March to pressure Hamas to release the remaining hostages.

However the heads of 12 major aid groups said the humanitarian aid system in Gaza was "facing total collapse".

The war began on 7 October 2023 when Hamas carried out a cross-border attack on Israeli communities, killing around 1,200 people and seizing 251 hostages according to Israeli tallies.

Israel's military campaign against Hamas has killed at least 51,065 people, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.

BBC

So why does Hamas not negotiate or give a counter ??

 

[deltexas]

I Presume, by this you mean The Palestinians. Opressed for the best part of a Century. Only through Divine intervention, people hold on to this strength.

Yeah by rejecting all peace deals and resorting to violent and terrorism. Hamas face mask is well and truly exposed. Let me share something with you .

In 2000 the Palestinians were given a very generous offer for an independent Palestinian state:

• all of Gaza
• 94% of WB with land swaps
• East Jerusalem
• Palestinian sovereignty and airspace
• Sharing of Temple Mount
• 40000 Palestinian "refugees" would become Israeli citizens
• A road connecting Gaza and WB

The whole world pressured Yasser Arafat (the first Palestinian leader, and also an Egyptian) to take the deal. The Saudi's said it would be a "crime" to reject the deal. Clinton and Dennis Ross all blame the failure of a peace deal on the Palestinian Arabs.

This was rejected without a counter proposal. In fact, Palestinians responded with the Second Intifada, resulting in over 1000 dead Israeli civilians and thousands injured.

Hamas have 0 leverage now. The Palestinian Authority is weak and illegitimate. Arab states have normalized with Israel.

The idea of 40000 Palestinian Arabs "refugees" coming in to Israel now is unthinkable. The idea of splitting up Jerusalem is impossible. Israeli settlements have only grown, making map realities eve more difficult.

Palestinians will never get a better deal than what they had offered to them in 2000. They would be lucky to get an Israeli PM to even want to be in the same room with them at this stage. To think how differently the Middle East could be if Arafat (who stole billions of dollars to give to his wife and daughter now living in Paris) actually gave a heck about the Palestinian Arabs.

It proves 2 things:

1. Hamas do not care about building a state, but destroying Israel.
2. Hamas never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, from the river to the sea

 

[Farhan The Man]

I Presume, by this you mean The Palestinians.

There's only one side.

Screaming ceasefire. At every opportunity.

The other is acting decisively. And with purpose.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Yeah by rejecting all peace deals and resorting to violent and terrorism. Hamas face mask is well and truly exposed. Let me share something with you .

In 2000 the Palestinians were given a very generous offer for an independent Palestinian state:

• all of Gaza
• 94% of WB with land swaps
• East Jerusalem
• Palestinian sovereignty and airspace
• Sharing of Temple Mount
• 40000 Palestinian "refugees" would become Israeli citizens
• A road connecting Gaza and WB

The whole world pressured Yasser Arafat (the first Palestinian leader, and also an Egyptian) to take the deal. The Saudi's said it would be a "crime" to reject the deal. Clinton and Dennis Ross all blame the failure of a peace deal on the Palestinian Arabs.

This was rejected without a counter proposal. In fact, Palestinians responded with the Second Intifada, resulting in over 1000 dead Israeli civilians and thousands injured.

Hamas have 0 leverage now. The Palestinian Authority is weak and illegitimate. Arab states have normalized with Israel.

The idea of 40000 Palestinian Arabs "refugees" coming in to Israel now is unthinkable. The idea of splitting up Jerusalem is impossible. Israeli settlements have only grown, making map realities eve more difficult.

Palestinians will never get a better deal than what they had offered to them in 2000. They would be lucky to get an Israeli PM to even want to be in the same room with them at this stage. To think how differently the Middle East could be if Arafat (who stole billions of dollars to give to his wife and daughter now living in Paris) actually gave a heck about the Palestinian Arabs.

It proves 2 things:

1. Hamas do not care about building a state, but destroying Israel.
2. Hamas never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, from the river to the sea

Maybe you should come down from cloud cookoo Land and live in reality world.

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[aboveandbeyond]

There's only one side.

Screaming ceasefire. At every opportunity.

The other is acting decisively. And with purpose.

Acting decisively with the help of NATO led hypocrites.

Not surprised a Hindutwa has no sympathy for the opressed.

 

[deltexas]

A lot of this war is because Palestine wants more than what they already deserve. I think that whole "From the river to the sea, Palestine will free" is yes an anti-Israeli policy, but let's be real here if the Palestinians had the power they would genocide the Jews in a heartbeat. Like I'm trying to be bipartisan and I acknowledge the Israeli government is absolutely horrible, but Palestine just keeps giving me reasons to have the peace talks swing more into Israel's favor.

Maybe you should come down from cloud cookoo Land and live in reality world.

Greater Israel: The Zionist plan for territorial expansion

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You keep rejecting repeated deals , and you expect the other party to give you concessions. Doesnt work that way in reality. You sow what you reap. Hamas asked for it and is getting it back with interest .

 

[deltexas]

Maybe you should come down from cloud cookoo Land and live in reality world.

Greater Israel: The Zionist plan for territorial expansion

Share1FacebookLikeShareTweetEmail1 Muslims need to wake up to Israel’s plans for territorial expansion and urgently put in measures to stop it. After decades of wars, civil strife and uprisings, the Middle East is arriving at arguably the most dangerous inflection point in its recent history. In...

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You keep rejecting repeated deals , and you expect the other party to give you concessions. Doesnt work that way in reality. You sow what you reap. Hamas asked for it and is getting it back with interest .

 

[aboveandbeyond]

A lot of this war is because Palestine wants more than what they already deserve. I think that whole "From the river to the sea, Palestine will free" is yes an anti-Israeli policy, but let's be real here if the Palestinians had the power they would genocide the Jews in a heartbeat. Like I'm trying to be bipartisan and I acknowledge the Israeli government is absolutely horrible, but Palestine just keeps giving me reasons to have the peace talks swing more into Israel's favor.

You keep rejecting repeated deals , and you expect the other party to give you concessions. Doesnt work that way in reality. You sow what you reap. Hamas asked for it and is getting it back with interest .

Stop the whataboutery. The zionests extremists have no plan for peace, nor a two state solution.

The Greater Israel plan was formed decades ago by the colonial European zionest extremists.

 

[deltexas]

Stop the whataboutery. The zionests extremists have no plan for peace, nor a two state solution.

The Greater Israel plan was formed decades ago by the colonial European zionest extremists.

So any response to why Palestine rejected the above peace deals ? It was a complete 2 state solution. Why did they reject it ?

 

[Farhan The Man]

Acting decisively with the help of NATO led hypocrites.

Ever wonder why "decisive" re-acts are missing from OIC-led hypocrites?

You are not on side of the truth. You are leaderless.

Consequently, you long for ceasefires.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

So any response to why Palestine rejected the above peace deals ? It was a complete 2 state solution. Why did they reject it ?

If its not whataboutery, then you must have comprehension issues. There was never a 2 state solution in reality. Only time any solution for peace was seriously instigated was under Yitzhaq Rabin and Arafat . Rabin was then assassinated by a zionest extremist.

Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin | Israeli Prime Minister, Peace Deal, & Oslo Accords | Britannica

The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin took place on November 4, 1995, following a mass peace rally in Tel Aviv. He was killed by a Jewish extremist, Yigal Amir, who was angry about the Oslo Accords.

www.britannica.com

And off course we have the Greater Israeli Agenda. Mass annexation of territory beyond its borders.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Ever wonder why "decisive" re-acts are missing from OIC-led hypocrites?

You are not on side of the truth. You are leaderless.

Consequently, you long for ceasefires.

Yet more whataboutery from a confused Hindutwa.

 

[Rajdeep]

So any response to why Palestine rejected the above peace deals ? It was a complete 2 state solution. Why did they reject it ?

He wont answer that. He cant answer that. His religious belief doesn't allow him to answer that. He is a blind bhakt of Hamas where he can't see them doing any wrong. As you rightly said this conflict could have been resolved as soon as Hamas agree to the deal and release the hostages. Every neutral observer can see it except these Hamas loving momins who will give you every possible excuse and then will shed crocodile tears on Israel's brutality.

 

[Rajdeep]

Yet more whataboutery from a confused Hindutwa.

Farhan is Hindutwa

 

[emranabbas]

Yeah by rejecting all peace deals and resorting to violent and terrorism. Hamas face mask is well and truly exposed. Let me share something with you .

In 2000 the Palestinians were given a very generous offer for an independent Palestinian state:

• all of Gaza
• 94% of WB with land swaps
• East Jerusalem
• Palestinian sovereignty and airspace
• Sharing of Temple Mount
• 40000 Palestinian "refugees" would become Israeli citizens
• A road connecting Gaza and WB

The whole world pressured Yasser Arafat (the first Palestinian leader, and also an Egyptian) to take the deal. The Saudi's said it would be a "crime" to reject the deal. Clinton and Dennis Ross all blame the failure of a peace deal on the Palestinian Arabs.

This was rejected without a counter proposal. In fact, Palestinians responded with the Second Intifada, resulting in over 1000 dead Israeli civilians and thousands injured.

Hamas have 0 leverage now. The Palestinian Authority is weak and illegitimate. Arab states have normalized with Israel.

The idea of 40000 Palestinian Arabs "refugees" coming in to Israel now is unthinkable. The idea of splitting up Jerusalem is impossible. Israeli settlements have only grown, making map realities eve more difficult.

Palestinians will never get a better deal than what they had offered to them in 2000. They would be lucky to get an Israeli PM to even want to be in the same room with them at this stage. To think how differently the Middle East could be if Arafat (who stole billions of dollars to give to his wife and daughter now living in Paris) actually gave a heck about the Palestinian Arabs.

It proves 2 things:

1. Hamas do not care about building a state, but destroying Israel.
2. Hamas never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, from the river to the sea

@Rajdeep

What a silly argument If the Israeli's walk Into India and say you can keep most of India and we just want varanasi/kashi would you agree to it? Or try fight for your land that rightly belongs to you.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The barbarians are on a parole for indefinite period
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Source: Al Jazeera

 

[deltexas]

@Rajdeep

What a silly argument If the Israeli's walk Into India and say you can keep most of India and we just want varanasi/kashi would you agree to it? Or try fight for your land that rightly belongs to you.

Yeah the Arabs "rejected" a 2 state deal way back in 67 and then "went" to war to "claim" the whole land and then "lost" badly after being the aggressor rejecting any peace deals. So you lose wars you start and still want to claim the whole land.. Wow. Guess what. Then the reality sinks in and bites. And now they have to "compromise" . If they dont , then they reap the consequences.

So, am using your own argument. You attack and then lose badly and then cry I'm victimized mentality. And the reality is Hamas has no interest in any peace and no arab country wants to take in the Palestinians inspite of the so called Islamic Ummah. That should say something. And reality is whether you folks like it or not, admit it or not - Israel is going nowhere. Its a democratic established country and is going nowhere. The ball is in Hamas' court. Either negotiate and be sensible or get prepared for the retaliation.

 

[emranabbas]

Yeah the Arabs "rejected" a 2 state deal way back in 67 and then "went" to war to "claim" the whole land and then "lost" badly after being the aggressor rejecting any peace deals. So you lose wars you start and still want to claim the whole land.. Wow. Guess what. Then the reality sinks in and bites. And now they have to "compromise" . If they dont , then they reap the consequences.

So, am using your own argument. You attack and then lose badly and then cry I'm victimized mentality. And the reality is Hamas has no interest in any peace and no arab country wants to take in the Palestinians inspite of the so called Islamic Ummah. That should say something. And reality is whether you folks like it or not, admit it or not - Israel is going nowhere. Its a democratic established country and is going nowhere. The ball is in Hamas' court. Either negotiate and be sensible or get prepared for the retaliation.

How is your reply relevant to my post?

I posed you a question which you have not answered.

The answer for your this post is in the question I asked you which your trying to dodge.

 

[sweep_shot]

How is your reply relevant to my post?

I posed you a question which you have not answered.

The answer for your this post is in the question I asked you which your trying to dodge.

They are #1 when it comes to whataboutism and derailment.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source tells BBC

A senior Palestinian official familiar with Israel-Hamas ceasefire negotiations has told the BBC that Qatari and Egyptian mediators have proposed a new formula to end the war in Gaza.

According to the official, it envisages a truce lasting between five and seven years, the release of all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, a formal end to the war, and a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

A senior Hamas delegation was due to arrive in Cairo for consultations.

The last ceasefire collapsed a month ago when Israel resumed bombing Gaza, with both sides blaming each other for the failure to keep it going.

Israel has not commented on the mediators' plan.

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source says

Egyptian and Qatari mediators suggest a truce of up to seven years and a permanent end to the war.

www.bbc.com

 

[sweep_shot]

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source tells BBC

A senior Palestinian official familiar with Israel-Hamas ceasefire negotiations has told the BBC that Qatari and Egyptian mediators have proposed a new formula to end the war in Gaza.

According to the official, it envisages a truce lasting between five and seven years, the release of all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, a formal end to the war, and a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

A senior Hamas delegation was due to arrive in Cairo for consultations.

The last ceasefire collapsed a month ago when Israel resumed bombing Gaza, with both sides blaming each other for the failure to keep it going.

Israel has not commented on the mediators' plan.

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source says

Egyptian and Qatari mediators suggest a truce of up to seven years and a permanent end to the war.

www.bbc.com

Netanyahu doesn't want ceasefire or ending the war I guess. He wants to annex Gaza.

Evil man.

 

[deltexas]

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source tells BBC

A senior Palestinian official familiar with Israel-Hamas ceasefire negotiations has told the BBC that Qatari and Egyptian mediators have proposed a new formula to end the war in Gaza.

According to the official, it envisages a truce lasting between five and seven years, the release of all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, a formal end to the war, and a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

A senior Hamas delegation was due to arrive in Cairo for consultations.

The last ceasefire collapsed a month ago when Israel resumed bombing Gaza, with both sides blaming each other for the failure to keep it going.

Israel has not commented on the mediators' plan.

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source says

Egyptian and Qatari mediators suggest a truce of up to seven years and a permanent end to the war.

www.bbc.com

So what is the end goal for Hamas here ? After the withdrawal, will their rocket shelling continue ? Do they want a permanent end or temp truce ? At this stage , Israel will not yield to any concessions unless there are firm guarantees. Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map - so what truce do they want ?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

So what is the end goal for Hamas here ? After the withdrawal, will their rocket shelling continue ? Do they want a permanent end or temp truce ? At this stage , Israel will not yield to any concessions unless there are firm guarantees. Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map - so what truce do they want ?

Whose annexing ones territory?

Whose wiping a whole population out?

Who broke the ceasefire?

Who killed medics and aid workers?

Does your BS and whataboutery has any limits ?

 

[deltexas]

Whose annexing ones territory?

Whose wiping a whole population out?

Who broke the ceasefire?

Who killed medics and aid workers?

Does your BS and whataboutery has any limits ?

Palestine lost the war period. They rejected a 2 state solution period again. So they are not getting whole of Israel if tats what you are employing. Gaza and WB is what they will get. And WB will be diminished now bcos of the Israeli settlements. If Hamas wants all of Israel, never happening. And then the war continues till they lose everything. If annexing is the issue and a 2 state option is not on the table for Hamas - then thats not good for them. Israel already created a buffer zone in Gaza now to minimise the rocket impact. So you saying annnexing etc etc has no meaning when they rejected 1 2 state solution. And if that is Hamas goal , then they should be prepared to fight till the end .

No one's wiping anyone out. A retaliatory response by Israel in a war. And very unfortunately collateral damage happens if Hamas wants to fight till the last with no compromise.

So your whatabotery has basically no standing no matter how you spin it. You say annexing ?? So Palestine wants "whole" of Israel. Good luck with that. And with that thinking, more misery for Palestinian people because of Hamas's transgressions./

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Palestine lost the war period. They rejected a 2 state solution period again. So they are not getting whole of Israel if tats what you are employing. Gaza and WB is what they will get. And WB will be diminished now bcos of the Israeli settlements. If Hamas wants all of Israel, never happening. And then the war continues till they lose everything. If annexing is the issue and a 2 state option is not on the table for Hamas - then thats not good for them. Israel already created a buffer zone in Gaza now to minimise the rocket impact. So you saying annnexing etc etc has no meaning when they rejected 1 2 state solution. And if that is Hamas goal , then they should be prepared to fight till the end .

No one's wiping anyone out. A retaliatory response by Israel in a war. And very unfortunately collateral damage happens if Hamas wants to fight till the last with no compromise.

So your whatabotery has basically no standing no matter how you spin it. You say annexing ?? So Palestine wants "whole" of Israel. Good luck with that. And with that thinking, more misery for Palestinian people because of Hamas's transgressions./

Your either delusional, a typical ignorant Hindutwa, or probably a bufoon.

Israel Is Accelerating Its Plans for the Complete Annexation of the Palestinian West Bank

Netanyahu's Government is stepping up its plans ahead of the arrival of a sympathetic Trump administration

bylinetimes.com

 

[Hitman]

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source tells BBC

A senior Palestinian official familiar with Israel-Hamas ceasefire negotiations has told the BBC that Qatari and Egyptian mediators have proposed a new formula to end the war in Gaza.

According to the official, it envisages a truce lasting between five and seven years, the release of all Israeli hostages in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, a formal end to the war, and a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

A senior Hamas delegation was due to arrive in Cairo for consultations.

The last ceasefire collapsed a month ago when Israel resumed bombing Gaza, with both sides blaming each other for the failure to keep it going.

Israel has not commented on the mediators' plan.

New Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan proposed, Hamas source says

Egyptian and Qatari mediators suggest a truce of up to seven years and a permanent end to the war.

www.bbc.com

First, commit terrorism and invite a war. Then, when retaliation comes to bite back, shed crocodile tears and start proposing ceasefire to end the war.

I can guarantee Hamas will do another October 7th, 2023 without thinking twice if the ceasefire deal happens. Without thinking twice because one needs brains to realise what reality is. They are responsible for each and every life lost in the war.​