Donald Trump says "will take over Gaza" and Palestinians should leave

[IMMY69]

I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but previous Israeli leaders have proposed peace solutions and the Palestinians arrogantly rejected it.

Arrogance is the wrong word.
Trust you'll agree

 

[RexRex]

Arrogance is the wrong word.
Trust you'll agree

Let me rephrase that - 'the Palestinian leaders arrogantly rejected it'

It's hard to blame the people when their rulers have misled them.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Palestinians will continue to fight for their rights, Hamas spokesperson says​

Hamas spokesperson Osama Hamdan says Palestinians are determined to secure their rights and will not give up that decades-long quest.

“If it was delivered by the international community to them, that will be good. If not, they will resist,” he told Al Jazeera.

“After 15 months of Israeli aggression, it is clear that you cannot defeat the Palestinian people. This nation has been struggling for its legitimate rights for over 75 years, and we will not give up.”

Source: Al Jazeera

 

[HalBass9]

I'm not a fan of Netanyahu but previous Israeli leaders have proposed peace solutions and the Palestinians arrogantly rejected it.

They had every right to reject it, but that in no way grants anyone the right to seize land through force and commit genocide in the process.

 

[rpant_gabba]

They had every right to reject it, but that in no way grants anyone the right to seize land through force and commit genocide in the process.

But exceptions can be for Direct action day.

 

[HalBass9]

But exceptions can be for Direct action day.

You wish to occupy Pakistan and Bangladesh?

 

[Devadwal]

But exceptions can be for Direct action day.

I have stop following this conflict from long ago.

What Is happening now? Has terrorist organisations Hamas destroy by Israel??

 

[Varun]

Palestinian will always resist, Israel knew of a appending and used their hannibal doctrine to gun down most of the Israelis with their choppers. The end goal has always been ethic cleansing and interestingly as a hindu you've decided to also believe God has given these nutters a holy land.

I suppose the world is bored of their "resistance" - a dry piece of chicken shows more resistance against a fork on everybody's dinner plate.

If I had a say in the matter, I suggest they be moved to Greenland. It's a large place and nobody uses it.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Israel minister tells army to plan for Palestinians leaving Gaza

Israel's defence minister has told its military to prepare a plan to "allow any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave to do so", in line with President Donald Trump's proposal for the US to take over the territory and resettle its 2.1 million Palestinians elsewhere.

Israel Katz said Gazans should have "freedom of movement and migration" and countries critical of Israel's war with Hamas were "obligated" to take them in.

Trump meanwhile said Gaza would be "turned over" to the US by Israel "at the conclusion of fighting".

But the Palestinian presidency reiterated its rejection of the plan, which it has said would violate international law, and insisted that "Palestine... is not for sale".

The Israeli military launched a campaign to destroy Hamas in response to an unprecedented cross-border attack on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 were taken hostage.

More than 47,550 people have been killed and 111,600 injured in Gaza since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry.

Most of Gaza's population has also been displaced multiple times and almost 70% of its buildings are estimated to be destroyed or damaged.

Healthcare, water, sanitation and hygiene systems have collapsed and there are shortages of food, fuel, medicine and shelter.

The Israeli defence minister wrote on X on Thursday that he welcomed the US president's "bold initiative", saying it could "support long-term reconstruction efforts in a demilitarized, threat-free Gaza after Hamas".

Katz announced that he had instructed the Israeli military to "prepare a plan that will allow any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave to do so, to any country willing to receive them".

"The plan will include exit options via land crossings, as well as special arrangements for departure by sea and air," he said.

"Countries such as Spain, Ireland, Norway, and others, which have falsely accused Israel over its actions in Gaza, are legally obligated to allow Gazans to enter their territory. Their hypocrisy will be exposed if they refuse."

He alleged that Hamas was preventing people leaving Gaza and said that they should have "the right to freedom of movement and migration".

Hamas official Basem Naim accused Katz of trying to cover up for "a state that has failed to achieve any of its objectives in the war on Gaza" and said Palestinians would refuse to leave.

Meanwhile, the spokesman for the Palestinian presidency asserted that "Palestine, with its land, history and holy sites, is not for sale".

Nabil Abu Rudeineh also said the Palestinians would "will not give up an inch of their land", whether in Gaza or the occupied West Bank.

"The Palestinian people and their leadership will not allow the repetition of the catastrophes of 1948 and 1967, and will thwart any plan aimed at liquidating their just cause through investment projects whose place is neither in Palestine nor on its land."

The 1948 "Nakba", which means "catastrophe" in Arabic, saw hundreds of thousands of Palestinians flee or driven from their homes before and during the war that followed the creation of the State of Israel.

Many of those refugees ended up in Gaza, where they and their descendants make up three quarters of the population. Another 900,000 registered refugees live in the West Bank, which Israel occupied in the 1967 Middle East war along with Gaza, while 3.4 million others live in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, according to the UN.

Israel unilaterally withdrew its troops and settlers from Gaza in 2005, though it retained control of its shared border, airspace and shoreline, giving it effective control of the movement of people and goods. The UN still regards Gaza as Israeli-occupied territory because of the level of control Israel has.

On Wednesday, Jordan's king expressed its "rejection of any attempts to annex land or displace Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank", while Egypt's foreign minister stressed the importance of reconstruction "without the Palestinians leaving the Gaza Strip".

Hamas - which is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by Israel, the US, the UK and other countries - said Trump's plan was "absurd" and would "only put oil on the fire" in the region.

The UN human rights office warned that any forcible transfer in, or deportation of, people from occupied territory was strictly prohibited under international law.

The UN's secretary general also said it was "essential to avoid any form of ethnic cleansing" and stressed that Gaza would be an integral part of a future Palestinian state.

Antonio Guterres told a meeting in New York that the world had "seen a chilling, systematic dehumanisation and demonization of an entire people".

Trump unveiled his plan for the US to take "long-term ownership" of Gaza and oversee its reconstruction during a visit to the White House by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday.

The president said most of the Palestinians living in Gaza would have to be relocated to achieve his vision of creating "the Riviera of the Middle East", and that they would be housed in Jordan, Egypt and other countries.

"I hope we can do something where they wouldn't want to go back," he said, echoing earlier remarks in the Oval Office where he talked about resettling people "permanently".

At the White House briefing on Wednesday, spokeswoman Caroline Leavitt was asked to confirm whether all Palestinians who wanted to stay in Gaza would be allowed to do so.

"I can confirm that the president is committed to rebuilding Gaza and to temporarily relocating those who are there because... it is a demolition site," she replied, appearing to contradict the president.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio also said the idea was for Gazans to leave the territory for an "interim" period while debris was cleared and reconstruction took place.

On Thursday, Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform that Gaza would "be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting".

A ceasefire in effect between Israel and Hamas has halted the war and aims to lead to a permanent end to the fighting.

"The Palestinians... would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free," he added.

The president also said no US soldiers would be needed to maintain stability.

In an interview with Fox News on Wednesday, Israel's prime minister called Trump's proposal "remarkable" and something that should be "examined, pursued and done".

Netanyahu also suggested that Gazans would be able to return, saying: "They can leave, they can then come back, they can relocate and come back, but you have to rebuild Gaza."

BBC

 

[Farhan The Man]

Meanwhile, the spokesman for the Palestinian presidency asserted that "Palestine, with its land, history and holy sites, is not for sale".

Every man has a price.

You just have to find out how much it is.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I suppose the world is bored of their "resistance" - a dry piece of chicken shows more resistance against a fork on everybody's dinner plate.

If I had a say in the matter, I suggest they be moved to Greenland. It's a large place and nobody uses it.

If I suggested the Jews be moved to Greenland, how would that go down? Considering most of them originated from Europe you could argue it would be more apt.

 

[Varun]

If I suggested the Jews be moved to Greenland, how would that go down? Considering most of them originated from Europe you could argue it would be more apt.

The suggestion is moot, because the Jews have done enough to secure their land in Israel over the last 75 years - have a look at the change in map of Israel/Palestine in this period, it is clear which one has shrunk and which one has expanded.

Therefore, in my humble opinion, all the remaining Gazans should be moved to Greenland to be given a chance at success in life.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The suggestion is moot, because the Jews have done enough to secure their land in Israel over the last 75 years - have a look at the change in map of Israel/Palestine in this period, it is clear which one has shrunk and which one has expanded.

Therefore, in my humble opinion, all the remaining Gazans should be moved to Greenland to be given a chance at success in life.

Why Greenland though? Quite clearly the Gazans like their own climate, hence even under the current attempts at genocide by the israeli army, they have clung stubbornly to their land. If you want to make productive use of Greenland's space, why not send illegal Indian immigrants there from the US and Canada? They have shown they are willing to move to cold climates, and are prepared to move to foreign shores. This makes more sense in my humble opinion.

 

[Bewal Express]

Trump is an evil man. The tragedy for other countries was that Biden and Dems are hypocrites- they say what you want to hear and but ultimately take orders from the likes of AIPAC.

 

[sweep_shot]

China stands with Palestine.

 

[Farhan The Man]

China stands with Palestine.

What does standing with palestine mean?

In tangible terms.

pakistan is long-standing with palestine. From outside, looking in.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You keep mislabelling others as hindus, muslims, aethiests, et al.

Yet here you are as a "muslim", sitting in your comforts of a western society that gave birth to israel, and not lifting a finger. Even after being made aware of islamic scriptures ordering you to fight.

Lol basic education in history, Pakistan and multiple Muslim nations were created by the west .

The Palestinians are defending themselves well , it must have given you anxiety watching hamas come out victorious, nobody takes islamaphobes seriously esp with new user names yearly

 

[FearlessRoar]

Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1888558230789316699

 

[rpant_gabba]

Show the post my yogi friend

Looks like that thread has disappeared (conveniently) and there is radio silence from mods to my enquiries about it.

Let me try again.

@The Bald Eagle @FearlessRoar @BouncerGuy What happened to the thread that was opened on oct 7 2023?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Donald Trump repeats pledge to take over Gaza - as Hamas says Palestinians will foil all displacement plans​

Donald Trump has doubled down on his plan to take control of Gaza, saying he is committed to buying and owning the war-ravaged land but could allow sections of it to be rebuilt by other states in the Middle East.

Speaking onboard Air Force One on his way to attend the Super Bowl in New Orleans, the US president told journalists: "I'm committed to buying and owning Gaza.

"As far as us rebuilding it, we may give it to other states in the Middle East to build sections of it, other people may do it, through our auspices. But we're committed to owning it, taking it, and making sure that Hamas doesn't move back."

He added: "There's nothing to move back into. The place is a demolition site. The remainder will be demolished. Everything's demolished."

Mr Trump claimed Arab nations would agree to take in Palestinians after speaking with him and insisted Palestinians would leave Gaza if they had a choice.

"They don't want to return to Gaza. If we could give them a home in a safer area - the only reason they're talking about returning to Gaza is they don't have an alternative. When they have an alternative, they don't want to return to Gaza," he said.

'Gaza is not a property to be sold'

A member of the Hamas political bureau, Ezzat El Rashq, was quick to condemn Mr Trump's latest remarks.

"Gaza is not a property to be sold and bought. It is an integral part of our occupied Palestinian land," he said in a statement, adding that Palestinians will foil all displacement plans.

Shortly after being sworn-in for a second presidential term on 20 January, Mr Trump floated the idea of the US
taking over Gaza and engaging in a huge rebuilding effort.

On Wednesday, the president elaborated on his plans, saying his country could turn it into the "Riviera of the Middle East" while the enclave's population of two million are resettled in countries such as Egypt and Jordan.

On Friday, Egypt's foreign minister Badr Abdelatty said he had contacted Arab partners including Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates to bolster the region's rejection of any displacement of Palestinians.

He said they had emphasised "the constants of the Arab position on the Palestinian cause, rejecting any measures aimed at displacing the Palestinian people from their land, or encouraging their transfer to other countries outside the Palestinian territories".

'Flagrant violation of international law'

Arab nations want a two-state solution which would see a separate Palestinian homeland exist alongside the state of Israel.

Displacing Palestinians would be a "flagrant violation of international law, an infringement on Palestinian rights, a threat to security and stability in the region and an undermining of opportunities for peace and coexistence among its peoples", a statement from Egypt's foreign ministry said.

Instead, Egypt and other Arab nations were looking at how to rebuild and clean up Gaza after Israel's military campaign, which has devastated much of the territory in the aftermath of Hamas' attack on Israel on 7 October 2023.

The attack saw around 1,200 Israelis massacred and around 250 people taken hostage.

Israel's war in Gaza has killed more than 47,000 people, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, which does not differentiate between civilians and combatants.

The diplomatic spat comes as three Israeli hostages, who appeared thin and frail, were released by Hamas in return for 183 Palestinian prisoners.

Donald Trump repeats pledge to take over Gaza - as Hamas says Palestinians will foil all displacement plans

It comes after Donald Trump said Palestinians should be resettled so the US can take over Gaza.

news.sky.com

 

[IAJ]

Just read an article here in the biggest newspaper in Norway saying Hamas now has probably even more fighers than the numbers who were martyred. People warned the Satan who wanted to 'eliminate' Hamas completely that your strategy will backfire. Now he is running to his master asking for more help.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Expectedly insects coming out of the woodwork after much-vaunted ceasefire.

Frivolous platitudes of "hamas victorious" from duplicitous residents of the west.

They wholeheartedly oil this war machine, as long as it's not them maimed on frontlines, nor their own families in body bags.

 

[Varun]

Lol basic education in history, Pakistan and multiple Muslim nations were created by the west .

That doesn't give you the license to leach off the west while paying tax money to kill your brothers and sisters.

Go to Khamenei. He needs you.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Instead of condemning ethnic cleansing of a population, posters are taking potshots at people who criticise it. Incredible.

 

[Varun]

Instead of condemning ethnic cleansing of a population, posters are taking potshots at people who ostensibly criticise it while funding said ethnic cleansing. Incredible.

Edited for accuracy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Edited for accuracy.

Still shooting the messenger I see. If you are happy that israel and co are ethnically cleansing Gaza, at least have the backbone to stand up and say it openly.

 

[Varun]

Still shooting the messenger I see. If you are happy that israel and co are ethnically cleansing Gaza, at least have the backbone to stand up and say it openly.

I don't care about this conflict either way. My passion for it is purely online and on this site, where the popcorn gets tastier when I provoke the usual suspects, who you refer to as messengers.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't care about this conflict either way. My passion for it is purely online and on this site, where the popcorn gets tastier when I provoke the usual suspects, who you refer to as messengers.

Fair enough. I have opened a new thread on ethnic cleansing for a wider discussion as I too like to provoke the usual suspects (although from a different but nearby stratosphere) so can take it up there for a wider discussion.

 

[Varun]

Fair enough. I have opened a new thread on ethnic cleansing for a wider discussion as I too like to provoke the usual suspects (although from a different but nearby stratosphere) so can take it up there for a wider discussion.

You do what you must, as your chosen means of cope.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

UNRWA says 1.2 million reached with food aid in first two weeks of Gaza ceasefire​

The UN agency for Palestinian refugees says that in the two weeks of the Gaza ceasefire, it reached 1.2 million people with food aid together with the World Food Programme.

UNRWA chief Philippe Lazzarini said the organisation has also opened 10 new shelters to support people returning to the north, giving out tents, blankets, plastic sheeting and warm clothes as storms and rain continue.

The agency, which Israel is trying to dismantle, has also repaired water wells and provided water and waste disposal services for nearly half a million people in and around UNRWA shelters, and is giving medical supplies to patients in its clinics.

Source: Al Jazeera

#Gaza : heartwarming to receive the latest updates. Our teams delivering at full scale.
With over 7,000 workers, @UNRWA sets an example for humanitarian service to people overwhelmed by 15 months of constant bombardment + forced displacement.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That doesn't give you the license to leach off the west while paying tax money to kill your brothers and sisters.

Go to Khamenei. He needs you.

leech ? I pay more taxes than you prob earn. I also pay taxes to feed poor Indians, modi has needs too

 

[sweep_shot]

leech ? I pay more taxes than you prob earn. I also pay taxes to feed poor Indians, modi has needs too

Some of these Indians think all non-Indians abroad are poor and on handouts.

These people are more brainwashed than North Koreans.

 

[HalBass9]

Why do people keep insisting that if you live in the West and pay taxes, you have no right to criticize a government that supports ethnic cleansing?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Some of these Indians think all non-Indians abroad are poor and on handouts.

These people are more brainwashed than North Koreans.

This fella has been writing the same argument to me for years. He thinks Trump is going to deport everyone inc British lol

 

[Varun]

leech ? I pay more taxes than you prob earn. I also pay taxes to feed poor Indians, modi has needs too

Those poor, poor Palestinians.

 

[Stewie]

@KingKhanWC

Who are Muslims to have a say on the formation of a homeland for Sanatanis, Jewish, Buddhist people?

We didn’t oppose when Christians and Muslims took control of 150 nations in the world.

Because you couldn't and didn't have the numbers. If you did, you would have. but n the modern world, after the world wars and the UN Charter, there are laws that need to be followed. And they are not being. There are people living under apartheid and robbed of human rights.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Why do people keep insisting that if you live in the West and pay taxes, you have no right to criticize a government that supports ethnic cleansing?

Because your words contradict your actions.


Because you are selfish enough to place your preference for comforts of a western society over your own perceived righteousness.

 

[HalBass9]

Because your words contradict your actions.

Because that makes you a hypocrite.

Because you are selfish enough to place your preference for comforts of a western society over your own perceived righteousness.

LOL.

Oh, absolutely, Let me just book my one way ticket to Palestine real quick. Or wait, should I just keep relocating every time there's a conflict? Or maybe I should start a daily press conference? Decisions, decisions.

 

[Farhan The Man]

LOL.

Oh, absolutely, Let me just book my one way ticket to Palestine real quick. Or wait, should I just keep relocating every time there's a conflict? Or maybe I should start a daily press conference? Decisions, decisions.

Hyperbole.

It's not your get-out-of-jail card. This time around.

We can see through the superficiality of your empathy for the affected. You care less to make a personal sacrifice.

 

[HalBass9]

Hyperbole.

It's not your get-out-of-jail card. This time around.

We can see through the superficiality of your empathy for the affected. You care less to make a personal sacrifice.

Oh no, you got me. My evil master plan of using hyperbole as a get out of jail card has been exposed. How will I ever recover from such a profound and totally not predictable accusation?

And wow, you see through my superficial empathy? Incredible. Do you offer psychic readings too, or is armchair moral superiority your full time gig?

 

[Varun]

Oh no, you got me. My evil master plan of using hyperbole as a get out of jail card has been exposed. How will I ever recover from such a profound and totally not predictable accusation?

By waking up tomorrow, a new day, and continuing to be a try hard on online forums about this so called brotherhood between you and the Palestinians.

 

[HalBass9]

Calm down homeboy.

You are a sensitive individual. Like the rest of us.

Place your wellbeing over others. You deserve to live better.

Absolutely, Just like every Palestinian in Palestine, because clearly, their struggles exist solely to give you a measuring stick for your online virtue parade.

Al Ahumdu lilah.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You do what you must, as your chosen means of cope.

I think that is you, you probably stole that line from one of my previous posts as well.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Trump faces showdown with Jordan over Gaza plan

Donald Trump is expected to face fierce resistance from Jordan's King Abdullah at the White House today, in their first meeting since the US president proposed moving Gaza's population to Jordan.

Jordan, a key US ally, has been treading a tightrope between its military and diplomatic ties, and popular support for the Palestinians at home.

Those fault lines, already tested by the Gaza War, are being pushed to breaking point by Trump's plans for Gaza's peace.

He has expanded on his demand that Gazans be moved to Jordan and Egypt, telling a Fox News anchor that they would not have the right to return home – a vision that, if enforced, would contravene international law.

On Monday he said he might withhold aid to Jordan and Egypt if they did not take in Palestinian refugees.

Some of the fiercest opponents of moving Gazans to Jordan are the Gazans who moved here before.

Some 45,000 people live crammed into the Gaza Camp, near Jordan's northern town of Jerash, one of several Palestinian refugee camps here.

Sheets of corrugated iron hang over narrow shop doorways, and children rattle along on donkeys between the market stalls.

All the families here trace their roots back to Gaza: to Jabalia, Rafah, Beit Hanoun. Most left after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, seeking temporary shelter. Generations later, they are still here.

"Donald Trump is an arrogant narcissist," 60-year-old Maher Azazi tells me. "He has a mentality from the Middle Ages, the mentality of a tradesman."

Maher left Jabalia as a toddler. Some of his family are still there, now picking through the rubble of their home for the bodies of 18 missing relatives.

Despite the devastation there, Mr Azazi says Gazans today have learned the lessons of previous generations and most "would rather jump into the sea than leave".

Those who once saw leaving as a temporary bid for refuge, now see it as helping Israel's far-right nationalists take Palestinian land.

"We Gazans have been through this before," says Yousef, who was born in the camp. "Back then, they told us it would be temporary, and we would return to our home. The right to return is a red line."

"When our ancestors left, they had no weapons to fight, like Hamas has now," another man tells me. "Now the younger generation are fully aware of what happened with our ancestors, and it will never happen again. Now there is resistance."

Palestinians are not the only ones to seek refuge in Jordan – a tiny superpower of stability surrounded by the Middle East's many conflicts.

Iraqis arrived here, fleeing war in the early 2000s. A decade later, Syrians came too, prompting Jordan's king to warn that his country was at "boiling point".

Many native Jordanians blame the waves of refugees for high unemployment and poverty at home. A food bank by the mosque in central Amman told us it hands out 1,000 meals a day.

Waiting for work outside the mosque, we met Imad Abdallah and his friend Hassan – both day labourers who have not worked in months.

"The situation in Jordan used to be great, but when there was the war in Iraq, things got worse, when there was the war in Syria, it got worse, now there's a war in Gaza, it's got a lot worse," Hassan said. "Any war that happens near us, we become worse off, because we're a country that helps and takes people in."

Imad was blunter, worried about feeding his four children.

"The foreigners come, and take our jobs," he told me. "Now I'm four months without a job. I have no money, no food. If Gazans come, we will die."

But Jordan is also under pressure from its key military ally. Trump has already suspended to it US aid worth more than $1.5 billion a year. And many here are braced for a growing confrontation between the new US president and their own political leaders, who are pushing back.

Jawad Anani, a former deputy prime minister close to the Jordanian government, says King Abdullah's message to Donald Trump at the White House on Tuesday will be clear: "We consider any attempt by Israel or others to push people out of their own houses in Gaza and the West Bank as a criminal act. But any attempt to push those people into Jordan will be tantamount to a declaration of war."

Even if Gazans wanted to relocate voluntarily, on a temporary basis, as part of a wider Middle East plan, he said, the trust simply was not there.

"There is no confidence," he said. "As long as Netanyahu is involved, he and his government, there is no confidence in any promises that anybody makes. Period."

Trump's determination to push his vision for Gaza could end up pushing a key US ally into a critical choice.

Last Friday, thousands protested here against Trump's proposal.

Jordan is home to US military bases, and millions of refugees, and its security co-operation is crucial for Israel, worried about smuggling routes into the occupied West Bank.

Any risks to Jordan's stability mean risks for its allies too. If stability is Jordan's superpower, the threat of unrest is its biggest weapon and its best defence.

BBC

 

[BouncerGuy]

Trump insists US will take Gaza as he meets Jordan's King Abdullah

President Donald Trump has once again insisted the US will take control of the Gaza Strip, as he met Jordan's King Abdullah at the White House on Tuesday.

It was their first meeting since Trump announced his proposal to take over the enclave and move its population of two million Palestinians to other countries in the region, including Jordan.

Earlier this week, Trump suggested he could withhold aid to Jordan and Egypt unless they agreed to take in those Palestinians from Gaza.

Jordan, a key US ally in the Middle East, is already home to millions of Palestinians and has rejected the proposal. King Abdullah said after their meeting that Jordan's "steadfast position [is] against the displacement of Palestinians".

But speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, with King Abdullah seated to his right, Trump signalled he would not shift on his idea which triggered global condemnation when he unveiled it last week.

"We're going to take it. We're going to hold it. We're going to cherish it," he said of Gaza.

Trump claimed that "a lot of jobs" would be created across the region if a US takeover of the devastated territory were to happen.

"I think it could be a diamond," he said, adding that he now believes the US is "above" having to threaten other countries to participate.

King Abdullah sat quietly next to Trump as the president repeated a proposal that would upend decades of established US policy and could amount to a breach of international law, which prohibits the forcible transfer of populations.

Jordan has so far rejected the idea as a fundamental breach of international law, but has quietly expressed concerns about the kingdom's ability to absorb large numbers of Palestinians.

On the possibility of taking in additional Palestinians, King Abdullah said a solution that is "best for everybody" would be necessary. He said Jordan would take in 2,000 unwell Palestinian children.

Trump, however, appeared unmoved and reiterated his stance that he expects Jordan and Egypt to play a part in housing resettled Palestinians.

"I believe we'll have a parcel of land in Jordan. I believe we'll have a parcel of land in Egypt," Trump said. "We may have someplace else, but I think when we finish our talks, we'll have a place where they're going to live very happily and very safely."

Egypt has roundly rejected Trump's idea to remove Palestinians from Gaza. Its foreign ministry said in a statement on Monday that the country intended to put forward a plan with "a comprehensive vision for the reconstruction of Gaza in a manner that guarantees the Palestinian people's continued presence on their land, in alignment with their legitimate legal rights".

The statement said Egypt had an "aspiration" to work with the Trump administration on its plan, but it stressed that any foreign intervention should "avoid jeopardising the gains of peace.

King Abdullah stressed that the Middle East was largely aligned with this position following his White House meeting. He wrote on X that his conversation with Trump was "constructive", but said that his country remained concerned with Trump's proposal.

"I reiterated Jordan's steadfast position against the displacement of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank," he said. "This is the unified Arab position."

"Rebuilding Gaza without displacing the Palestinians and addressing the dire humanitarian situation should be the priority for all," he added.

Jordan is already home to millions of people descended from Palestinian refugees who were forced from the land that became Israel in 1948, alongside those whose roots lie firmly east of the River Jordan.

The country has also absorbed waves of refugees from Syria, and is heavily reliant on US economic and military assistance.

The UN has warned that any forced displacement of civilians from occupied territory is strictly prohibited under international law and "tantamount to ethnic cleansing".

Trump on Tuesday appeared to dodge a question about that UN warning.

"We're moving them to a beautiful location where they can have new homes, where they can live safely, where they can have doctors and medical and all of those things," he said.

King Abdullah said during the meeting that the matter would be discussed and both sides should "wait until the Egyptians" can present their ideas.

The deal with Egypt is believed to be a proposal for the future governance of Gaza, backed by other Arab states as a way to counteract Trump's plan.

While still being formulated, it is thought the proposal could involve a local administration of technocrats drawn from Palestinians in Gaza, without affiliating to factions including Hamas.

Since first revealing the US proposal during a news conference last week alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump has repeatedly doubled down on his plan for Gaza, saying he is "committed to buying and owning" it.

In an interview with Fox News broadcast earlier this week, Trump said Gaza's two million residents would be resettled and have no right to return.

"They wouldn't, because they have much better housing," he said. "I'm talking about building a permanent place for them."

BBC

 

[KingKhanWC]

Trump insists US will take Gaza as he meets Jordan's King Abdullah

President Donald Trump has once again insisted the US will take control of the Gaza Strip, as he met Jordan's King Abdullah at the White House on Tuesday.

It was their first meeting since Trump announced his proposal to take over the enclave and move its population of two million Palestinians to other countries in the region, including Jordan.

Earlier this week, Trump suggested he could withhold aid to Jordan and Egypt unless they agreed to take in those Palestinians from Gaza.

Jordan, a key US ally in the Middle East, is already home to millions of Palestinians and has rejected the proposal. King Abdullah said after their meeting that Jordan's "steadfast position [is] against the displacement of Palestinians".

But speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, with King Abdullah seated to his right, Trump signalled he would not shift on his idea which triggered global condemnation when he unveiled it last week.

"We're going to take it. We're going to hold it. We're going to cherish it," he said of Gaza.

Trump claimed that "a lot of jobs" would be created across the region if a US takeover of the devastated territory were to happen.

"I think it could be a diamond," he said, adding that he now believes the US is "above" having to threaten other countries to participate.

King Abdullah sat quietly next to Trump as the president repeated a proposal that would upend decades of established US policy and could amount to a breach of international law, which prohibits the forcible transfer of populations.

Jordan has so far rejected the idea as a fundamental breach of international law, but has quietly expressed concerns about the kingdom's ability to absorb large numbers of Palestinians.

On the possibility of taking in additional Palestinians, King Abdullah said a solution that is "best for everybody" would be necessary. He said Jordan would take in 2,000 unwell Palestinian children.

Trump, however, appeared unmoved and reiterated his stance that he expects Jordan and Egypt to play a part in housing resettled Palestinians.

"I believe we'll have a parcel of land in Jordan. I believe we'll have a parcel of land in Egypt," Trump said. "We may have someplace else, but I think when we finish our talks, we'll have a place where they're going to live very happily and very safely."

Egypt has roundly rejected Trump's idea to remove Palestinians from Gaza. Its foreign ministry said in a statement on Monday that the country intended to put forward a plan with "a comprehensive vision for the reconstruction of Gaza in a manner that guarantees the Palestinian people's continued presence on their land, in alignment with their legitimate legal rights".

The statement said Egypt had an "aspiration" to work with the Trump administration on its plan, but it stressed that any foreign intervention should "avoid jeopardising the gains of peace.

King Abdullah stressed that the Middle East was largely aligned with this position following his White House meeting. He wrote on X that his conversation with Trump was "constructive", but said that his country remained concerned with Trump's proposal.

"I reiterated Jordan's steadfast position against the displacement of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank," he said. "This is the unified Arab position."

"Rebuilding Gaza without displacing the Palestinians and addressing the dire humanitarian situation should be the priority for all," he added.

Jordan is already home to millions of people descended from Palestinian refugees who were forced from the land that became Israel in 1948, alongside those whose roots lie firmly east of the River Jordan.

The country has also absorbed waves of refugees from Syria, and is heavily reliant on US economic and military assistance.

The UN has warned that any forced displacement of civilians from occupied territory is strictly prohibited under international law and "tantamount to ethnic cleansing".

Trump on Tuesday appeared to dodge a question about that UN warning.

"We're moving them to a beautiful location where they can have new homes, where they can live safely, where they can have doctors and medical and all of those things," he said.

King Abdullah said during the meeting that the matter would be discussed and both sides should "wait until the Egyptians" can present their ideas.

The deal with Egypt is believed to be a proposal for the future governance of Gaza, backed by other Arab states as a way to counteract Trump's plan.

While still being formulated, it is thought the proposal could involve a local administration of technocrats drawn from Palestinians in Gaza, without affiliating to factions including Hamas.

Since first revealing the US proposal during a news conference last week alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump has repeatedly doubled down on his plan for Gaza, saying he is "committed to buying and owning" it.

In an interview with Fox News broadcast earlier this week, Trump said Gaza's two million residents would be resettled and have no right to return.

"They wouldn't, because they have much better housing," he said. "I'm talking about building a permanent place for them."

BBC

King Abdullah was pathetic in the press conference, leaving it to Egpyt.

It doesnt matter what the puppet leaders decide, this is a battle until the world ends, nobody is going anywhere. Besides the Jews dont want this, the Greater Israel has to be all or nothing.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Trump’s Gaza plan is ‘textbook definition of ethnic cleansing,’ Humza Yousaf says​

Former Scottish First Minister Humza Yousaf has condemned US President Donald Trump’s proposal to relocate Palestinians from Gaza, calling it the “textbook definition of ethnic cleansing” in an exclusive interview with Al Arabiya News.

“It’s the very textbook definition of ethnic cleansing,” Yousaf said when asked whether he believed Trump’s Gaza plan met those criteria.

Yousaf also expressed deep concern over the fragility of the Gaza ceasefire, which took effect on January 19 but is now at risk of collapse.

If the truce fails, he warned, innocent civilians – not “terrorists” – will suffer the consequences.

Yousaf accused Western leaders of avoiding labeling Trump’s plan as ethnic cleansing due to racism, arguing that reactions would be vastly different if Russian President Vladimir Putin had made similar remarks about Ukraine.

“If the last 16 months have taught us anything, the stark reality is that Palestinian lives, Arab lives are not equal to the lives of Europeans and those in the West. And that is entrenched in systemic, institutionalized racism,” Yousaf said.

He also criticized the British government’s stance, calling it “cowardice” and accused London of being “complicit” in Israel’s war on Gaza through its continued arms sales to Israel.

Yousaf further criticized nations that have not recognized Palestine as a state, saying that if Scotland had the legal authority, it would do so.

“You can’t say that you agree with a two-state solution but only choose to recognize one state,” he said.

‘The most dangerous man on the planet’

Yousaf also defended his previous remarks describing billionaire Elon Musk as “the most dangerous man on the planet.”

“I called him the most dangerous man on the planet given he was using his billions to buy unfettered access to arguably the most powerful man in the world – the president of the United States. He has now done that, and he’s not done it for good purposes, but nefarious purposes,” he said.

Yousaf accused Musk of aligning with far-right groups and holding White supremacist sympathies.

“Not only is Elon Musk Islamophobic, I think he is somebody who clearly has White supremacist, far-right sympathies,” he said.

He also criticized Musk for his public attacks on British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and warned that Western democracy faces the threat of collapse.

“The rise of the far-right, which is driven by predominantly anti-Muslim hatred, if we continue to allow this rising tide of the far-right to continue, if we don’t confront it, if we don’t confront those who support it, influence it and amplify it like Elon Musk, then I think western democracy is under threat of complete collapse,” Yousaf said.

He argued that Musk’s influence on politics undermines democratic systems, questioning how true democracy can exist when billionaires have the power to manipulate elections.

“How on earth can we have a true democracy when oligarchs like Elon Musk can buy elections? How can we have a democracy when the world’s richest man – through his money, wealth, platforms, influence – can overthrow or attempt to overthrow democratically elected heads of government?” Yousaf asked.

“So I think the rise of the far-right, amplified by Elon Musk, is one of the biggest threats to Western democracy.”

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/02/13/trump-s-gaza-plan-is-textbook-definition-of-ethnic-cleansing-humza-yousaf-says

 

[BouncerGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1889994529731907585

 

[Farhan The Man]

KSA to follow UAE. IRP to follow KSA.

Only pakistanis with western passports to feverishly protest. On social media.

Whilst first funding the war and now this takeover with their tax money. Script playout is hollywood'ish.

 

[Pakpak]

By waking up tomorrow, a new day, and continuing to be a try hard on online forums about this so called brotherhood between you and the Palestinians.

I am absolutely astounded at your utterly vile posts. Absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel.

My cousin, a paedictrian, visited Gaza during the genocide to treat the wounded and treat children. He saw some of the worst stuff known to man and will forever be scarred.

You're absolutely shocking and as someone who had a lot of respect for you I am astounded. Utterly horrific and disgusting posts by you.

 

[sweep_shot]

I am absolutely astounded at your utterly vile posts. Absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel.

My cousin, a paedictrian, visited Gaza during the genocide to treat the wounded and treat children. He saw some of the worst stuff known to man and will forever be scarred.

You're absolutely shocking and as someone who had a lot of respect for you I am astounded. Utterly horrific and disgusting posts by you.

Most Indian posters here are like this. Nothing surprising.

I hope one day these people will face similar calamities so that they learn not to be smug about sufferings of innocent.

 

[HalBass9]

KSA to follow UAE. IRP to follow KSA.

Only pakistanis with western passports to feverishly protest. On social media.

Whilst first funding the war and now this takeover with their tax money. Script playout is hollywood'ish.

Send me your address, I can come over to protest in front of your house? I'll bring fantastic tea as well.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Send me your address, I can come over to protest in front of your house? I'll bring fantastic tea as well.

Your presence is needed on the frontlines in gaza. Not gali mohalla of karachi.

Let's see if your body can cash in what your mouth spews daily. Superficially.

A one-way ticket is sufficient.

 

[HalBass9]

Your presence is needed on the frontlines in gaza. Not gali mohalla of karachi.

Let's see if your body can cash in what your mouth spews daily. Superficially.

A one-way ticket is sufficient.

It’s you who has an issue with people exercising their fundamental right to protest in whatever way they choose. You're trying to suppress that protest. As an atheist, you should be supporting the right to protest in any form against genocide rather than making an unsuccessful attempt to shut it down.

So, what’s the address?

 

[Farhan The Man]

Figured you out. Internet tough guy.

You are all words. No action.

Keyboard away your words. Or by your standard: a protest.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Trump is just all talk these days to end up with a Two state stuff

 

[FearlessRoar]

Netanyahu signals moving ahead with Trump's Gaza plan as Israel receives unblocked US shipment of heavy bombs​

Benjamin Netanyahu has suggested moving ahead with Donald Trump's plan to clear out Palestinians from Gaza, as Israel received a previously blocked shipment of heavy bombs.

President Trump's proposal to transfer the Palestinian population out of Gaza and redevelop it under US ownership has been criticised by Palestinians, human rights groups, regional powers and US allies, but Mr Netanyahu said on Sunday it is "the only viable plan to enable a different future".

The Israeli prime minister also denied claims it was ethnic cleansing.

Ever since the UN General Assembly voted for Palestine to be split into an Arab state and a Jewish state, against significant opposition in 1947, the issue of land, and who it belongs to, has been one of the most divisive in the region.

Mr Netanyahu said that any emigration from Gaza should be "voluntary" but rights groups and critics warned the plan amounted to coercion given Israel had razed the enclave.

The Israeli PM said he and Mr Trump had a "common strategy" for Gaza and that the US president's plan was "right on the dot".

Speaking to reporters in Florida on Sunday, Mr Trump said: "I told Bibi [Benjamin Netanyahu] you do whatever you want."

He added:"[It] will be up to Israel what the next step is, in consultation with me."

The comments raise further concerns for the fragile Gaza ceasefire, which came under threat last week.

Hamas initially said it would not be releasing the hostages scheduled to be sent back to Israel over worries about the supply of vitally needed aid - but later backtracked.

'Peace through strength' - with heavy bombs

It comes as Israel has received a shipment of heavy MK-84 bombs from the US, initially blocked by Joe Biden, that Mr Trump greenlit.

Mr Trump said he lifted the block because he believed in "peace through strength".

The MK-84 is an unguided 907kg bomb that can rip through thick concrete and metal, creating a wide blast radius.

The Biden administration refused to clear the weapons for export over fears of what they could do in the densely populated Gaza Strip.

Mr Trump said on Sunday: "They contracted for the weapons a long time ago with the Biden administration, and then Biden wouldn't deliver the weapons. But I look at it differently. I say peace through strength."

Netanyahu signals moving ahead with Trump's Gaza plan as Israel receives unblocked US shipment of heavy bombs

The Israeli prime minister has called President Trump's proposal to transfer the Palestinian population out of Gaza "the only viable plan to enable a different future" for the region.

news.sky.com

 

[sweep_shot]

Netanyahu signals moving ahead with Trump's Gaza plan as Israel receives unblocked US shipment of heavy bombs​

Benjamin Netanyahu has suggested moving ahead with Donald Trump's plan to clear out Palestinians from Gaza, as Israel received a previously blocked shipment of heavy bombs.

President Trump's proposal to transfer the Palestinian population out of Gaza and redevelop it under US ownership has been criticised by Palestinians, human rights groups, regional powers and US allies, but Mr Netanyahu said on Sunday it is "the only viable plan to enable a different future".

The Israeli prime minister also denied claims it was ethnic cleansing.

Ever since the UN General Assembly voted for Palestine to be split into an Arab state and a Jewish state, against significant opposition in 1947, the issue of land, and who it belongs to, has been one of the most divisive in the region.

Mr Netanyahu said that any emigration from Gaza should be "voluntary" but rights groups and critics warned the plan amounted to coercion given Israel had razed the enclave.

The Israeli PM said he and Mr Trump had a "common strategy" for Gaza and that the US president's plan was "right on the dot".

Speaking to reporters in Florida on Sunday, Mr Trump said: "I told Bibi [Benjamin Netanyahu] you do whatever you want."

He added:"[It] will be up to Israel what the next step is, in consultation with me."

The comments raise further concerns for the fragile Gaza ceasefire, which came under threat last week.

Hamas initially said it would not be releasing the hostages scheduled to be sent back to Israel over worries about the supply of vitally needed aid - but later backtracked.

'Peace through strength' - with heavy bombs

It comes as Israel has received a shipment of heavy MK-84 bombs from the US, initially blocked by Joe Biden, that Mr Trump greenlit.

Mr Trump said he lifted the block because he believed in "peace through strength".

The MK-84 is an unguided 907kg bomb that can rip through thick concrete and metal, creating a wide blast radius.

The Biden administration refused to clear the weapons for export over fears of what they could do in the densely populated Gaza Strip.

Mr Trump said on Sunday: "They contracted for the weapons a long time ago with the Biden administration, and then Biden wouldn't deliver the weapons. But I look at it differently. I say peace through strength."

Netanyahu signals moving ahead with Trump's Gaza plan as Israel receives unblocked US shipment of heavy bombs

The Israeli prime minister has called President Trump's proposal to transfer the Palestinian population out of Gaza "the only viable plan to enable a different future" for the region.

news.sky.com

It was the plan since the beginning. Wasn't it?

Stealing land like a thief.

 

[Varun]

I am absolutely astounded at your utterly vile posts. Absolutely scraping the bottom of the barrel.

My cousin, a paedictrian, visited Gaza during the genocide to treat the wounded and treat children. He saw some of the worst stuff known to man and will forever be scarred.

You're absolutely shocking and as someone who had a lot of respect for you I am astounded. Utterly horrific and disgusting posts by you.

First time?

Prepare to be shocked further: the Gazans should be moved en masse to Greenland or Siberia for both sides' own good.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

First time?

Prepare to be shocked further: the Gazans should be moved en masse to Greenland or Siberia for both sides' own good.

Why should the Gazans have to move.
Practically better to move the zionests to the US, And Europe, as majority reside from there. Netanyahu, has Polish routes.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Trump is just all talk these days to end up with a Two state stuff

Trump like all other US president's, is Aipacs xitch. Has to follow the orders like the shameless Poodle he is.

 

[RexRex]

Why should the Gazans have to move.
Practically better to move the zionests to the US, And Europe, as majority reside from there. Netanyahu, has Polish routes.

 

[Varun]

Why should the Gazans have to move.
Practically better to move the zionests to the US, And Europe, as majority reside from there. Netanyahu, has Polish routes.

Because they have lost, they better make a move before their territory declines to 0%.

They have shown that they do not get along with their neighbours: be it the Israelis or the Arabs all of whom have blockaded them.

They might have better luck with the eskimos and reindeer, time will tell.

 

[IMMY69]

Because they have lost, they better make a move before their territory declines to 0%.

They have shown that they do not get along with their neighbours: be it the Israelis or the Arabs all of whom have blockaded them.

They might have better luck with the eskimos and reindeer, time will tell.

How have the actual people of Palestine lost?
You are coming across, dare I say it, like your other heartless comrades...

I'm with aboveandbeyond on this one.
Didn't really expect this from you.

 

[Varun]

How have the actual people of Palestine lost?
You are coming across, dare I say it, like your other heartless comrades...

I'm with aboveandbeyond on this one.
Didn't really expect this from you.

What is this about anybody expecting something from me? I am a poster on an online forum - not the United Nations secretary general.

 

[IMMY69]

What is this about anybody expecting something from me? I am a poster on an online forum - not the United Nations secretary general.

People rightly form opinions of other posters from what they post, bearing in mind you've been a member for 13 years.
Pretty simple really.

 

[RexRex]

What is this about anybody expecting something from me? I am a poster on an online forum - not the United Nations secretary general.

For some reason, you are a saint to many pakistanis .. don't let them down.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How have the actual people of Palestine lost?
You are coming across, dare I say it, like your other heartless comrades...

I'm with aboveandbeyond on this one.
Didn't really expect this from you.

I can sort of understand his argument to be fair. It's the might is right which Champ Pal used recently as well. You can't really argue it from a reality basis. Just ask Japan and the late residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The argument is that if the Palestinians are moved they get to live instead of getting pounded into the rubble by jet bombers. Of course the way it is expressed gives the impression that Varun probably thinks they deserve it, which is another matter.

 

[Varun]

People rightly form opinions of other posters from what they post, bearing in mind you've been a member for 13 years.
Pretty simple really.

Okay. And for 13 years, in whatever relevant thread I have cared to post, I have never supported Palestine.

So if you formed the opposite opinion due to an error, it's not on me.

 

[Farhan The Man]

Didn't really expect this from you.

The expectation here is pakistanis are to support kashmiris more than palestinis considering close proximity.

Apparently you are less/in active on kashmiri cause. To exacerbate, arabs don't bother themselves with kashmir issue either.

Why do you bother yourself with a non-issue then?

 

[IMMY69]

Okay. And for 13 years, in whatever relevant thread I have cared to post, I have never supported Palestine.

So if you formed the opposite opinion due to an error, it's not on me.

Forget the nationality, it's more about the human aspect...

 

[IMMY69]

The expectation here is pakistanis are to support kashmiris more than palestinis considering close proximity.

Apparently you are less/in active on kashmiri cause. To exacerbate, arabs don't bother themselves with kashmir issue either.

Why do you bother yourself with a non-issue then?

I have no love for Arabs, especially the rulers... in fact quite the opposite.

From just human aspect, I'm more concerned with the genocide that's taken place. Regarding Kashmir, it was a tool used by the army to keep the country on their side. There is nothing that unites a people like a good old Cold War situation...

I do believe that the Kashmiris should get their plebiscite but I'm not one of those that supports the killing and harming of people, no matter what their religion is.

 

[Varun]

Forget the nationality, it's more about the human aspect...

Believe me, I am being very humanitarian by recommending that the Palestinians get out of the line of fire.

 

[Local.Dada]

Pakistanis should let some Palestinians settle in Pakistan. After all it is the stronghold for the ummah. Look at the bright side, since they are Arabs and probably won’t watch cricket, some of you from Lahore, “Punjab” and from Karachi with roots to some random UP-Bihar village can gloat by pointing those fair skin Arabs to us and gloat about how superior your “new race” is what they do for a living shouldn’t matter; it’s not like the top of the cream ( not Hamas but scientists, doctors etc) won’t move to Pakistan anyways.

This should resolve the conflict.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I have no love for Arabs, especially the rulers... in fact quite the opposite.

From just human aspect, I'm more concerned with the genocide that's taken place. Regarding Kashmir, it was a tool used by the army to keep the country on their side. There is nothing that unites a people like a good old Cold War situation...

I do believe that the Kashmiris should get their plebiscite but I'm not one of those that supports the killing and harming of people, no matter what their religion is.

I don't have any love for Arabs either, but they share some common values and don't hate Pakistanis quite as much as Indians do. I always find it quite funny that Indian posters come on here mocking the ties to Arab countries when they are telling their own Muslim population Pakistan is thataway.

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't have any love for Arabs either, but they share some common values and don't hate Pakistanis quite as much as Indians do. I always find it quite funny that Indian posters come on here mocking the ties to Arab countries when they are telling their own Muslim population Pakistan is thataway.

They mock the ties to Arab countries and and yet they flock to Arab countries for employments.

Maximum shamelessness.

 

[Rajdeep]

Donald Trump - American. He made a statement on Gaza which is in Palestine. Posters here are taking their frustration out on Indians. This has been a norm in most threads these days where 3-4 usual suspects who themselves lives as immigrant overseas have a knack of attacking Indians irrespective of the topic of the thread. Just like everyone, @Varun or other Indian posters also have the right to give an opinion. Debate him on the points he is raising and not his country of origin which has no relevance to this topic or discussion.

Rajdeep.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Because they have lost, they better make a move before their territory declines to 0%.

They have shown that they do not get along with their neighbours: be it the Israelis or the Arabs all of whom have blockaded them.

They might have better luck with the eskimos and reindeer, time will tell.

Ignorance has no limitations i guess.

76 years of brutal occupation
Constant killing of women and children
Snipers deliberately targeting children
Foreign medics have reported this.
ICJ have convicted Netanyahus and his cronies as Criminals. Yet you ignore all this.

 

[Varun]

76 years of brutal occupation
Constant killing of women and children
Snipers deliberately targeting children
Foreign medics have reported this.
ICJ have convicted Netanyahus and his cronies as Criminals.

You forgot the punchline:

"Living in the West and paying for all this. Priceless."

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Donald Trump - American. He made a statement on Gaza which is in Palestine. Posters here are taking their frustration out on Indians. This has been a norm in most threads these days where 3-4 usual suspects who themselves lives as immigrant overseas have a knack of attacking Indians irrespective of the topic of the thread. Just like everyone, @Varun or other Indian posters also have the right to give an opinion. Debate him on the points he is raising and not his country of origin which has no relevance to this topic or discussion.

Rajdeep.

Check back to the OP and the following posts, no one was taking any frustrations out on Indians. Generally Indians support israelis and Pakistanis support Palestinians, we both know the reasons why so let's not pretend otherwise. It was relative newcomer atheist and and an Indian poster who started throwing religious text into the mix you should go back and verify before playing the Indian victim card.