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"It’s concerning to hear suggestions about dropping Babar Azam": Fakhar Zaman

Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1845408824091455702
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Is this real Fakhar Zaman's handle? Is Zaman having same agent ? Who the hell are the current players to decide Selection of Cricket team. Selectors decide who plays for Pakistan team or any international team. The players, especially currently centrally contracted ones should shut there trap on selection issues. Ex-players can give whatever opinions. Not these active ones.
 
Rana said:
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This is shocking stuff. Obviously players kicking off on social media about selection decisions is nothing new.

But I don't know of any other cricketing nation where agents are publicly lambasting the Board via their player's social media accounts. It's obvious Fakhar didn't write this tweet himself.

This agency must be blacklisted and players told to cease all contacts.
 
Why no one is commenting about Shaheen and Naseem exclusion but talking about Babar Azam
 
“Fakhar had slight chance of becoming white ball captain but Saya Corp tweeted from his id but you should remember that Rizwan is also part of Saya but Saya didn’t tweet from his id…. Looks like they have cleverly set aside Rizwan’s competitor for white ball captaincy.”

From Twitter
 
Rana said:
It's ironic that a player who doesn't play Test cricket himself is concerned about Babar Azam's exclusion.

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How in the world currently contracted player is criticizing selectors, that too for a non-selection of some other contracted player with presenting lots of stats? Did he retire and commenting in TV now?
 
Cricket Board are not as dumb as these Saya sponsors think the other PCB’s were.

They will know exactly what the game is here. Hopefully this is clamped down now!
 
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I think bcci have stopped all active cricketers to post a column in news papers. So how come all these guys are voicing against pcb for a pr scammer .even Australian cricket board expressed concerns when Michael Clarke( while he was an active cricketer in 2014/15) was commenting about his fellow players in a broadcaster role.
 
I don't think Fakhar will actually criticize PCB while being still an active player. He is still under contract. Plus how will a player like Fakhar quote precise averages of another player between given time frame. Seems like a fake Fakhar account..


But the point made in the tweet about Kohli's averages is very accurate:
This is Kohli's test record between 2021-2023.
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W63L35 said:
I don't think Fakhar will actually criticize PCB while being still an active player. He is still under contract. Plus how will a player like Fakhar quote precise averages of another player between given time frame. Seems like a fake Fakhar account..
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That can be an explanation. Likely to be a fake account.
 
These lazy agents needs to post more from their contracted player's accounts. What else are they paid for?
:inti
 
W63L35 said:
I don't think Fakhar will actually criticize PCB while being still an active player. He is still under contract. Plus how will a player like Fakhar quote precise averages of another player between given time frame. Seems like a fake Fakhar account..


But the point made in the tweet about Kohli's averages is very accurate:
This is Kohli's test record between 2021-2023.
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The difference though is India had two more players averaging exactly the same around that time.. Pujara and Rahane. India was in no position to drop all 3 at the same time. If i were selector i woudl have done. But they released one player at a time. When a lot of batsmen are mediocre pedigree players are the last affected.
 
Comparisons with Kohli are nauseating.

Focus on our own team and own players. Who cares what India did/didn't do?

Babar hasn't been able to buy a run for a long time. Our team is losing match after match. We can't play him forever on hopes and prayers.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
The difference though is India had two more players averaging exactly the same around that time.. Pujara and Rahane. India was in no position to drop all 3 at the same time. If i were selector i would have done. But they released one player at a time. When a lot of batsmen are mediocre pedigree players are the last affected.
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That is the debate here... if a lot of batsmen are mediocre, then why Babar is affected as soon as he did?

Just a couple of points regarding India team between March 2021 and March 2023 (the screen shot I posted above);

Pujara played all 18 tests in which Kohli was out of form for 31 straight innings scoring 1 100 and 6 50s in those same matches. Rahane played 11 out those 18 tests with an average of 20 or so.

The main difference between Pakistan and India was: India won 12 of those 18 matches and lost only 5 when Kohli was out of form.
Whereas Babar has been out of form during his last 9 tests... Pakistan's record is: 2 wins and 6 losses.
 
From getting compared to king,To getting droped from team .Babar come long way .
 
Fakhar behaving like he is in his last days of career . Just focus on yourself and perform or soon he will be forced to retire
 
Babar may need rest but was he taken on board with this decision. This is the key question.
 
𝗞𝗼𝗵𝗹𝗶 in Test (Till 2019)

- 7202 runs with 54.97 Avg
- Became No.1 Test Batter
- 7 Double Centuries
- 11 Centuries in SENA
- Centuries in all SENA Countries
- Most Successful Asian Captain
- Captain of ICC Test Decade Team (2010/19)

What was the Achievement of Babar, 196 in a drawn test match? ?
Mr. Fakhar Zaman (or forced post by saya corps)
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
𝗞𝗼𝗵𝗹𝗶 in Test (Till 2019)

- 7202 runs with 54.97 Avg
- Became No.1 Test Batter
- 7 Double Centuries
- 11 Centuries in SENA
- Centuries in all SENA Countries
- Most Successful Asian Captain
- Captain of ICC Test Decade Team (2010/19)

What was the Achievement of Babar, 196 in a drawn test match? ?
Mr. Fakhar Zaman (or forced post by saya corps)
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Lol Virat kohli is the greatest Indian all format batsman.

That Zimbabar can't be compared to him. Zimbabar has achieved nothing in his whole career in any of the format.

How can anyone with a working brain compare him with Virat kohli.
 
What’s so significant about dropping Babar? Obviously if he’s not performing it’s better to replace him with another player... that's the process!
 
Rana said:
It's ironic that a player who doesn't play Test cricket himself is concerned about Babar Azam's exclusion.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1845408824091455702
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This tweet shows the IQ level of active Pakistani cricketers. Fakhar is in team since 7-8 years, how can he give his biased views so openly. In no other country you will see an active player criticizing own board and selection process in this fashion just to show favour for his buddies
 
He unintentionally put pressure on Kohli to perform now in Australia. Thanks Fakhar :)

But I dont understand the comparison with Kohli & India. India has not lost a test series in India for last 12 years, why don’t these players compare that record first?
 
Massive Massive blunder by Fakhar. Extremely disappointing to see such stupid stuff from him. It completely weakens the desire to see him captain the LOI side for me. PCB has done a fantastic job by FINALLY dropping the pathetic terrible players who were long due this particular surgery. Fakhar says its too early to push the panic button? Bro you have been eliminated first round from two worldcups, lost to Afghanistan, clean sweeped by Bangladesh, lost to USA. DO YOU HAVE ANY GOD DAMN SHAME? Fakhar is not even part of Saya group, that makes it even worse. Fakhar you have disappointed the pakistani fans. You are pathetic and shameless.
 
Rana said:
“Fakhar had slight chance of becoming white ball captain but Saya Corp tweeted from his id but you should remember that Rizwan is also part of Saya but Saya didn’t tweet from his id…. Looks like they have cleverly set aside Rizwan’s competitor for white ball captaincy.”

From Twitter
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I just realized he is contracted by Saya as well. Damn. What you are saying makes complete sense. The angle is to remove any captaincy candidate that opposes Rizwan. You know Fakhar is the same guy who was saying he is willing to play in any position in the team when he knows Babar/Rizwan are not good enough for opening. This guy is maybe not as patriotic as we think. He was convinced by Saya to keep Rizwan as main captaincy candidate.
 
Rana said:
Cricket Board are not as dumb as these Saya sponsors think the other PCB’s were.

They will know exactly what the game is here. Hopefully this is clamped down now!
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Asim Munir needs to give Naqvi confidence to steam roll Saya from Pakistan cricket. I would prefer if ISI goes and puts Saya's owner in custody. We need to remove these personality worshipping cultists from Pakistan.
 
Slim said:
Massive Massive blunder by Fakhar. Extremely disappointing to see such stupid stuff from him. It completely weakens the desire to see him captain the LOI side for me. PCB has done a fantastic job by FINALLY dropping the pathetic terrible players who were long due this particular surgery. Fakhar says its too early to push the panic button? Bro you have been eliminated first round from two worldcups, lost to Afghanistan, clean sweeped by Bangladesh, lost to USA. DO YOU HAVE ANY GOD DAMN SHAME? Fakhar is not even part of Saya group, that makes it even worse. Fakhar you have disappointed the pakistani fans. You are pathetic and shameless.
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agreed

always vouched for him to have his natural position as an opener in LOI but he is also rotten as everyone else in the team
he can continue boot licking Babar no support from me
 
This was obviously not written by Fakhar but he needs to sack his agent and delete this tweet ASAP.

Babar’s exclusion should have happened a lot sooner. He’s been playing on reputation for far too long.

We then have @gazza619 who’s more worried about whether he was consulted about this by the PCB. Our fans have gone baby soft!
 
emranabbas said:
agreed

always vouched for him to have his natural position as an opener in LOI but he is also rotten as everyone else in the team
he can continue boot licking Babar no support from me
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I am sure if FIA/ISI do financial forensic analysis, a can of worms will definitely open. They must have promised Fakhar some big money to basically sacrifice all his captaincy chances. In a single tweet, he has nuclear bombed pakistani fan's positive opinion about him. Either Fakhar blames Saya, removes them as agent and takes back the tweet, or he has pretty much destroyed his legacy as another rotten player.
 
emranabbas said:
what wonders have these brothers done for Pakistan cricket team?

1st round exits in all recent tournaments?
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Hassan is a clear dog of Babar group. He has shown again and again. That is his legacy. And let me tell you, he is done, and his career is over. Babar is never coming back and he will never be captain. ITS OVER FOR YOU HASSAN. You absolute low IQ paindu.
 
Investigation needs to be open up on Saya Group, its now or never. It needs to be steam rolled, and this cancer needs to be removed from Pakistan cricket. I fully support current PCB setup, and our military civil establishment to open up investigation on them. The owner needs to be put behind bars. Cambridge Analytica level of manipulation going on.
 
Slim said:
I am sure if FIA/ISI do financial forensic analysis, a can of worms will definitely open. They must have promised Fakhar some big money to basically sacrifice all his captaincy chances. In a single tweet, he has nuclear bombed pakistani fan's positive opinion about him. Either Fakhar blames Saya, removes them as agent and takes back the tweet, or he has pretty much destroyed his legacy as another rotten player.
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I would be shocked if Fakhar understood and approved this tweet to be posted.

We’ve seen similar content posted from Shaheen’s account, if we remember the “sochna bhi mana hai” tweets that were posted from him and other players on their profile.

The bottom line is these players clearly don’t know what they’re getting themselves into.
 
Slim said:
Investigation needs to be open up on Saya Group, its now or never. It needs to be steam rolled, and this cancer needs to be removed from Pakistan cricket. I fully support current PCB setup, and our military civil establishment to open up investigation on them. The owner needs to be put behind bars. Cambridge Analytica level of manipulation going on.
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100% agree with this.

Kudos to @Rana who saw this coming.
 
Slim said:
Investigation needs to be open up on Saya Group, its now or never. It needs to be steam rolled, and this cancer needs to be removed from Pakistan cricket. I fully support current PCB setup, and our military civil establishment to open up investigation on them. The owner needs to be put behind bars. Cambridge Analytica level of manipulation going on.
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Trust me mate a lot of big wigs in the PCB who might be taking cut commissions from these players could also be screwed if SAYA is investigated Scotland Yard/ HMRC style. I don’t really trust Pakistan’s FIA at the moment. Doesn’t seem to come across as independent body.
 
W63L35 said:
That is the debate here... if a lot of batsmen are mediocre, then why Babar is affected as soon as he did?

Just a couple of points regarding India team between March 2021 and March 2023 (the screen shot I posted above);

Pujara played all 18 tests in which Kohli was out of form for 31 straight innings scoring 1 100 and 6 50s in those same matches. Rahane played 11 out those 18 tests with an average of 20 or so.

The main difference between Pakistan and India was: India won 12 of those 18 matches and lost only 5 when Kohli was out of form.
Whereas Babar has been out of form during his last 9 tests... Pakistan's record is: 2 wins and 6 losses.
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Pakistan is in a position to do major shake up. So one cannot compare the scenarios. Besides i don't think anyone performed worse than Babar. They can't drop Shan who made a 100. Saud Shakeel, Salman Agha, Rizwan all were among runs except Babar. Imam already dropped. Fakhar is not playing. Shafique is just inconsistent. But young enough to be given a run. Saim is a wild card pick.
 
It is worrying to what extent PR agencies and managers have taken over as mouthpieces of cricketers in public forums.

It was disturbing when Jadeja's PR team did the Manjrekar diatribe. What is happening in Pak cricket now is even more sinister. These under educated players clearly have no idea as to what rights they are signing away to these companies and are blindly trusting their agents to represent them on social media.

Social media was supposed to increase authenticity and remove layers between celebrities and public, instead we have reached this level.
 
Babar has been messed around. Got captaincy, lost it, regained it and then lost it again. Then pressure to drop down from opening in t20, going back and forth from opening to no.3. Criticised constantly in the media along the way. The USA result alone is enough to crush the confidence of a player. Just way too much pressure.

I know Babar shouldn’t have taken captaincy back. Should have willingly gone down to no.3 too.

That’s why maybe the best player shouldn’t be captain. We’ve seen too many players get affected by captaincy and loss of captaincy.

I really don’t know what possessed PCB to make him captain a 2nd time. Absolutely crazy decision.
 
Fakhar should concentrate on his batting as he's struggling off late. Babar is rightly dropped after continuous failures For a prolonged period of time.
 
pakistani pride said:
Babar has insulted Pak cricket for a very long time. He was never that good in TEST cricket to begin with, despite playing majority of games on roads.
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agreed!

but again i wil repeat the same thing u cant just make fun of our players like that... simply bench him and infact dont select him for upcoming tours too but dropping him just during the series is something harsh!
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
I had so much respect for Fakhar for his non involvement in grouping and no controversies. But, this bootlicking has made me instant dislike towards him.
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Not his twitter, his agent. Read his past twitter tweets lol.

Fakhar can't type like this and dude barely knows how to use social media.

He's a military man, just doesn't have time. He isn't even aware of this tweet or any of his past tweets.
 
Kohli has been a circus clown in Test cricket and wouldn’t get into the Pakistan team right now, but the obsession is ridiculous. Babar’s bad run of form has nothing to do with Kohli. What is the point of using him as an example.

This is a weird tweet by whoever is handling Fakhar’s Twitter. Totally unnecessary.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Pakistan is in a position to do major shake up. So one cannot compare the scenarios. Besides i don't think anyone performed worse than Babar. They can't drop Shan who made a 100. Saud Shakeel, Salman Agha, Rizwan all were among runs except Babar. Imam already dropped. Fakhar is not playing. Shafique is just inconsistent. But young enough to be given a run. Saim is a wild card pick.
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When was the last time a team did a "major shake up" and in that shake up, they dropped their world class #1 batsman because he could not score a 50 in last 9 tests & 17 innings?


Inzamam had an average of 16.60 in 12 tests (21 innings) from 6 Dec 1997 to 4 MAR 1999 which included 3 tests vs Zimbabwe.... he was not dropped.

Plus, if all other batsmen were scoring (as you said) then why drop Babar?
 
W63L35 said:
When was the last time a team did a "major shake up" and in that shake up, they dropped their world class #1 batsman because he could not score a 50 in last 9 tests & 17 innings?


Inzamam had an average of 16.60 in 12 tests (21 innings) from 6 Dec 1997 to 4 MAR 1999 which included 3 tests vs Zimbabwe.... he was not dropped.

Plus, if all other batsmen were scoring (as you said) then why drop Babar?
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When you combine these 9 tests failures and his failures in 2022 WT20, 2023 Wcup, 2024 WT20 there is bound to be backlash. They are reacting to the backlash. Even the hardcore Babar Fan girl Urooj was talking about giving him a break. Kohli did take a break at the end. I am not sure it was entirely his call. May be this will help him come back better.
 
Mamoon said:
Kohli has been a circus clown in Test cricket and wouldn’t get into the Pakistan team right now, but the obsession is ridiculous. Babar’s bad run of form has nothing to do with Kohli. What is the point of using him as an example.

This is a weird tweet by whoever is handling Fakhar’s Twitter. Totally unnecessary.
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2023 - Avg 56 with 2 tons.

I would think someone with that output can sneak into Pakistani batting line up.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
When you combine these 9 tests failures and his failures in 2022 WT20, 2023 Wcup, 2024 WT20 there is bound to be backlash. They are reacting to the backlash. Even the hardcore Babar Fan girl Urooj was talking about giving him a break. Kohli did take a break at the end. I am not sure it was entirely his call. May be this will help him come back better.
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If taking a break was purpose then doing it after the BD series was a right time.
 
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