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It's coming home! It's coming home! Cricket is coming home! Take a bow England!

Both teams deserve to be in finals and both have their reasons to win..
I hope it's a cracking final and the better team wins.

Good luck and congratulations to both the teams.

Absolutely, I am actually quite happy seeing these two teams meet in a final!! Although i am rooting for England surely they have worked quite hard to reach up to this level in international cricket!
 
Just curious, why England is becoming a nastier place? What is the change there?

The Brexit referendum has caused major political polarisation, and rise of xenophobia. The number of hate crimes against minorities has increased.

Don't get me wrong, Britain is still a very tolerant place especially compared to some countries in Europe who have voted for extreme far right parties. Every nation in this World Cup has a sizeable expat population here which is the charm of the country.

But Brexit, like the Trump election win, has brought prejudice out into the open. The next Prime Minister will come from a party whose members are openly bigoted.
 
The Brexit referendum has caused major political polarisation, and rise of xenophobia. The number of hate crimes against minorities has increased.

Don't get me wrong, Britain is still a very tolerant place especially compared to some countries in Europe who have voted for extreme far right parties. Every nation in this World Cup has a sizeable expat population here which is the charm of the country.

But Brexit, like the Trump election win, has brought prejudice out into the open. The next Prime Minister will come from a party whose members are openly bigoted.

Thanks. Actually I am thinking to move there, not a firm decision yet. So I need to take into account the actual scenario there
 
It really depends which elements you refer to. I can't complain about the administrators' treatment of Pakistan. ECB have invited Pakistan for tours in 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 and they are genuinely trying to engage with the Asian community. A Brit is now heading our cricket board.

Pundits are a mixed bag. There are many English commentators with a big soft spot for Pakistan, probably because of how many Pakistanis used to play in County Cricket alongside them and a respect was developed.
You mention Geoff Boycott who spoke up for Pakistan in 1992, he also defended Pakistan during Inzamam's 2006 ball tampering hearing.

Nasser definitely has a soft spot for Pakistan while Atherton was a big supporter of Amir's rehabilitation.

It's people like Botham who leave a sour taste. Another guy who couldn't hide his contempt for Pakistan was Jack Bannister. He commentated for BBC and later Talksport.

I thought he was dreadful.

Did you read my posts?
I mentioned from this very current team people like bairstow openingly accussing hasan ali of ball tampering, root too, by checking the ball. Captain morgans comments and excuses belittling pakistan!!!
I'm proud to be british, though there are a sufficient minority of racists, who have become more embolden due to brexit, but the majority of brits are goood, honest, decent people!
Due to the history of the england cricket team's attitude towards the pakistan cricket team and their players, which has not changed, as i have highlighted, i cannot support this current england cricket team!!!

Oh yeah, this is not the most diverse england team, england has used players to enhance their team always.
Monty panesar
Chris lewis
Devon malcolm
Amir khan's cousin saj something or another
Mark ramprakash
Nasser hussein
Gladstone small
Etc, etc

As far as inviting us for tours, i am not refering to the ecb or their members, but to the england cricket team's players of the past and present, not all of them, some of them, some senior ones who are influential!!!

So no chip on my shoulder, i don't wish them bad fortune, if they win, good for them but i won't be supporting them, you do what you want!!!
 
I was a huge fan of Glenn McGrath and ever since his retirement, there has never been another like him, and possibly never will. However, I really have come to like the very testing and the nagging line and length that Woakes bowls. He has been such a huge addition to this England team. He has been so hard to get away with. Really seems like a man on a mission. Slowly becoming a fan of this guy.

If England do end up winning the tournament, it´ll mainly be due to their bowlers I feel. A good bowling attack was the primary missing link in the recent two ICC tournaments that they had played, in my opinion.
 
I think what the England openers, both Roy and Bairstow, did very smartly was that they didn´t go on a leather hunt right from the word go. They took their time, as England had just 19 on the board after the first five overs. I say "just" because it was very slow by the standard of these two openers. However, what that meant was that they got their eye in, avoided giving early wickets and Australia thus never got a sniff. Defending a total as low as 224, bowlers´ shoulders begin to drop very quickly if they don´t get early wickets.

This is exactly what India needed to do against the pumped up New Zealand attack, and the match was theirs for the taking. Of course, the Indian top-order didn´t get out going for the big shots. However, they could´ve given it a better effort at leaving balls outside the off-stumps and also those which were away from the body, given the waiting slip fielders. The focus should entirely have been on playing those with the straight bat which were coming at the stumps. A big miss on their part!
 
Did you read my posts?
I mentioned from this very current team people like bairstow openingly accussing hasan ali of ball tampering, root too, by checking the ball. Captain morgans comments and excuses belittling pakistan!!!
I'm proud to be british, though there are a sufficient minority of racists, who have become more embolden due to brexit, but the majority of brits are goood, honest, decent people!
Due to the history of the england cricket team's attitude towards the pakistan cricket team and their players, which has not changed, as i have highlighted, i cannot support this current england cricket team!!!

Oh yeah, this is not the most diverse england team, england has used players to enhance their team always.
Monty panesar
Chris lewis
Devon malcolm
Amir khan's cousin saj something or another
Mark ramprakash
Nasser hussein
Gladstone small
Etc, etc

As far as inviting us for tours, i am not refering to the ecb or their members, but to the england cricket team's players of the past and present, not all of them, some of them, some senior ones who are influential!!!

So no chip on my shoulder, i don't wish them bad fortune, if they win, good for them but i won't be supporting them, you do what you want!!!

Captain old chap no need to get the BP up in this fine summer. You are entitled to support any team.

You said "English cricket has an anti-Pakistan mentality" which was a rather general statement that suggests everyone from administrators, commentators and players are out to get us which thankfully you clarified.

But if it's player behaviour that displeases you, well competitive international sport isn't a place where everybody sings pleasantries to one another. I could point out an iconic Australian fast bowler who kicked arguably our greatest ever batsman in the middle of a Test match in his crown jewels.

After sandpaper gate when one team decided to turn a cricket match into a DIY workshop, batsmen and umpires are getting quite wary when the ball starts reversing. Our players shouldn't roll over, we never ask the umpires to check the reversing ball even when its hooping around !
 
Hope NZ wins so these double crossers who pretend to be Pak fans then jump on the England bandwagon are put in place. :asad2

#TheyHaven’tTheyWon’t

Pak, India, Bangladesh tops are now washed, ironed and stored away in the UK. All brown British fans have now put on their England top to support the home nation in it's first glory of lifting the prize at Lords.

#Bestofbothworlds#PakgonebutEnggloryalive#Donthate
 
Captain old chap no need to get the BP up in this fine summer. You are entitled to support any team.

You said "English cricket has an anti-Pakistan mentality" which was a rather general statement that suggests everyone from administrators, commentators and players are out to get us which thankfully you clarified.

But if it's player behaviour that displeases you, well competitive international sport isn't a place where everybody sings pleasantries to one another. I could point out an iconic Australian fast bowler who kicked arguably our greatest ever batsman in the middle of a Test match in his crown jewels.

After sandpaper gate when one team decided to turn a cricket match into a DIY workshop, batsmen and umpires are getting quite wary when the ball starts reversing. Our players shouldn't roll over, we never ask the umpires to check the reversing ball even when its hooping around !

You named yourself after the national animal of pakistan, but do not mind people insulting pakistan!!
Fair dues, support who you want, your choice!
I will support them when i see that their players have respect for pakistan and pakistanis, until then i will hold my support!
Liley kicked miandad on the back of his foot and not in the crown jewels!
Lilley is also someone i would not support!

Sandpaper scandal happened in 1992?
Thats why wasim and waqar were verbally attacked by england cricket team and the english media?
You are a naive young man, very gullible, but i guess your heart is in the right place!

Enjoy the match and may the best team win!
 
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Recorded and telecast weeks before the match began ..(Jan2019) I’ve never seen something as specific as this before. I am blown . What a science. “He said semifinals will be between Ind, NZ,ENG and Aus, .. NZ will win and Kane Williamson will be the player of the series”. 🙏🙏</a></p> <p style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;">A post shared by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/actormaddy/" style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;" target="_blank"> R. Madhavan</a> (@actormaddy) on <time style=" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;" datetime="2019-07-11T09:21:54+00:00">Jul 11, 2019 at 2:21am PDT</time></p></div></blockquote> <script async src="//www.instagram.com/embed.js"></script>
 
Pak, India, Bangladesh tops are now washed, ironed and stored away in the UK. All brown British fans have now put on their England top to support the home nation in it's first glory of lifting the prize at Lords.

#Bestofbothworlds#PakgonebutEnggloryalive#Donthate

Please refrain from speaking on behalf of
"All brown british fans" ,
and speak for yourself only!!!
 
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Recorded and telecast weeks before the match began ..(Jan2019) I’ve never seen something as specific as this before. I am blown . What a science. “He said semifinals will be between Ind, NZ,ENG and Aus, .. NZ will win and Kane Williamson will be the player of the series”. &#55357;&#56911;&#55357;&#56911;</a></p> <p style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;">A post shared by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/actormaddy/" style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;" target="_blank"> R. Madhavan</a> (@actormaddy) on <time style=" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;" datetime="2019-07-11T09:21:54+00:00">Jul 11, 2019 at 2:21am PDT</time></p></div></blockquote> <script async src="//www.instagram.com/embed.js"></script>

for the sake of this guy going wrong i am fully supporting english. now i have a reason ...
i desperately wanted pakistans ouster because of those eerie 92 comparison..
 
England is part of Britain :inti

Or are you in Scotland or Wales?
I was born in england and have lived here for most of my life!
I do not consider myself as english, as most english people don't consider us english. I believe the english are the celtic races as opposed to the anglo saxon races that most racist claim!
I am BRITISH OF PAKISTANI/INDIAN (PUNJABI) HERITAGE, as per the census form filled in every decade!!
I love britain its my place of birth and i fully respect our beautiful country and the majority of decent, honest people of my country!
I also have love for pakistan and for india(though i hate the politics).
I love and respect all decent human beings of this world and wish them all health, wealth and happiness.

But i do not love the english cricket team!
I may do inthe future, if they show the same love and respect for everyone, including pakistan cricket team, their players and their fans!!!

By the way it is the england and wales cricket team, not the england cricket team, see they don't even respect the great nation of WALES!
 
England should win. They're peaking at the right time. Come on England!
 
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Recorded and telecast weeks before the match began ..(Jan2019) I’ve never seen something as specific as this before. I am blown . What a science. “He said semifinals will be between Ind, NZ,ENG and Aus, .. NZ will win and Kane Williamson will be the player of the series”. 🙏🙏</a></p> <p style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;">A post shared by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/actormaddy/" style=" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px;" target="_blank"> R. Madhavan</a> (@actormaddy) on <time style=" font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px;" datetime="2019-07-11T09:21:54+00:00">Jul 11, 2019 at 2:21am PDT</time></p></div></blockquote> <script async src="//www.instagram.com/embed.js"></script>
Now I really want England to win to be at peace. This man's predictions are way too specific. If they hold true, it is going to haunt my rationality. Btwn nice to see my language on PP.
 
I was born in england and have lived here for most of my life!
I do not consider myself as english, as most english people don't consider us english. I believe the english are the celtic races as opposed to the anglo saxon races that most racist claim!
I am BRITISH OF PAKISTANI/INDIAN (PUNJABI) HERITAGE, as per the census form filled in every decade!!
I love britain its my place of birth and i fully respect our beautiful country and the majority of decent, honest people of my country!
I also have love for pakistan and for india(though i hate the politics).
I love and respect all decent human beings of this world and wish them all health, wealth and happiness.

But i do not love the english cricket team!
I may do inthe future, if they show the same love and respect for everyone, including pakistan cricket team, their players and their fans!!!

By the way it is the england and wales cricket team, not the england cricket team, see they don't even respect the great nation of WALES!

Welsh have played for England and this is to help Wales otherwise Cardiff would not get world cup matches or test cricket.

I wouldn't worry about what people think, if you sound English you are English imo. England have Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid right now. Previously many other players from your background and many more in years to come.

Since you were born here and live here, let me ask you. If your child grew up and played for England, would you still not support them?
 
I was born in england and have lived here for most of my life!
I do not consider myself as english, as most english people don't consider us english. I believe the english are the celtic races as opposed to the anglo saxon races that most racist claim!
I am BRITISH OF PAKISTANI/INDIAN (PUNJABI) HERITAGE, as per the census form filled in every decade!!
I love britain its my place of birth and i fully respect our beautiful country and the majority of decent, honest people of my country!
I also have love for pakistan and for india(though i hate the politics).
I love and respect all decent human beings of this world and wish them all health, wealth and happiness.

But i do not love the english cricket team!
I may do inthe future, if they show the same love and respect for everyone, including pakistan cricket team, their players and their fans!!!

By the way it is the england and wales cricket team, not the england cricket team, see they don't even respect the great nation of WALES!
As a Canadian - Pakistani I totally agree. Summer up well.
 
Welsh have played for England and this is to help Wales otherwise Cardiff would not get world cup matches or test cricket.

I wouldn't worry about what people think, if you sound English you are English imo. England have Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid right now. Previously many other players from your background and many more in years to come.

Since you were born here and live here, let me ask you. If your child grew up and played for England, would you still not support them?
I would love my kid to play for england, if thats what he wanted to do and was good enough to do so. And of course i would support him.
You seemed confused with my point of view, i don't hate england, li love the country but the english cricket team has an underbelly for many decades which i won't go into detail because i don't want to get into any legal problems, but until this underbelly is not removed, i can't support such a team!
 
You named yourself after the national animal of pakistan, but do not mind people insulting pakistan!!
Fair dues, support who you want, your choice!
I will support them when i see that their players have respect for pakistan and pakistanis, until then i will hold my support!
Liley kicked miandad on the back of his foot and not in the crown jewels!
Lilley is also someone i would not support!

Sandpaper scandal happened in 1992?
Thats why wasim and waqar were verbally attacked by england cricket team and the english media?
You are a naive young man, very gullible, but i guess your heart is in the right place!

Enjoy the match and may the best team win!

I don't want anyone insulting Pakistan but batsmen asking umpires to check the ball when it starts reversing has gone on for as long as I can recall.

Yes it's true England had run-ins with Pakistan in the past but I don't see that relevance now - those divisive characters like Botham, Pringle, Cork, Prior and Trott are long gone. With exception of Roy, Morgan when he's in a press conference and Bairstow when he's having a sulk, it's a decent bunch who deserve some reward for 4 years of hard work having been a shambles in 2015. True they are FTBs, but it's one of the biggest turnarounds in recent sport.

Look I have the EXACT same opinions as you do about the cricket team...on the England football team.

I cannot stand anything about them. The loutish behaviour of the fans (who generally are the UKIP/Brexity types who tear up cities wherever they go after a few drinks), and especially the unearned arrogance of the media who make out as if "our boys" are angels and everyone else are dirty diving foreigners.

The players were prancing around like big shots banging on about how football was coming home last year at the World Cup when in reality - they had an easy draw where still they were average with most goals came from set pieces.

I took some flak for that on Time Pass with some natives accusing me of being unpatriotic - but I called it as I saw it. I said they'd be exposed by the first good team they face (Croatia) and guess what ? They were.

This team however is #1 in the rankings and have earned the right to be backed, unlike the football team that crowned itself champions before even reaching the final !
 
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Only fitting that a brummie has put England in the WC final with a MOM bowling performance :ashwin

We need a smiley for Woakes :mv

I'm 80% sure I saw Adil Rashid walk past me at jummah at Central Mosque today as well, England have this one in the bag. Chris Woakes + the power of Birmingham salat will prove unstoppable for the Kiwis.

IT'S COMING HOME BOYS.
 
I don't want anyone insulting Pakistan but batsmen asking umpires to check the ball when it starts reversing has gone on for as long as I can recall.

Yes it's true England had run-ins with Pakistan in the past but I don't see that relevance now - those divisive characters like Botham, Pringle, Cork, Prior and Trott are long gone. With exception of Roy, Morgan when he's in a press conference and Bairstow when he's having a sulk, it's a decent bunch who deserve some reward for 4 years of hard work having been a shambles in 2015. True they are FTBs, but it's one of the biggest turnarounds in recent sport.

Look I have the EXACT same opinions as you do about the cricket team...on the England football team.

I cannot stand anything about them. The loutish behaviour of the fans (who generally are the UKIP/Brexity types who tear up cities wherever they go after a few drinks), and especially the unearned arrogance of the media who make out as if "our boys" are angels and everyone else are dirty diving foreigners.

The players were prancing around like big shots banging on about how football was coming home last year at the World Cup when in reality - they had an easy draw where still they were average with most goals came from set pieces.

I took some flak for that on Time Pass with some natives accusing me of being unpatriotic - but I called it as I saw it. I said they'd be exposed by the first good team they face (Croatia) and guess what ? They were.

This team however is #1 in the rankings and have earned the right to be backed, unlike the football team that crowned itself champions before even reaching the final !
You don't have to justify supporting england in the cricket, if thats what you want to do!
Just like i should not have to justify why i am not supporting england!
Its just a game, has no real significance in the real world!
The england football team is more diverse than the england cricket team, but large sections of their fans are much worse than the barmy army! But then again, the football team has a much larger following, so will have more chance of attracting idiots!

Just because the england cricket team are ranked no. 1 in odis, doesn't mean that they have earned the right to be supported.
You can be the lowest ranked team in the world but if you play the game in the right way and show respect, people will support
such teams.
When i feel england is a team i can support, i will support them, but i was introduced to cricket, as a young child, by my father. He took me to edgbaston and i saw the great imran khan and i was hooked. Can not really support any other team in all honesty!
Same with the football, i watched the 86 wc, supporting england and gary lineker was my favourite player. Then a certain diego maradonna pops up in the quarter finals and i was blown away with what he could do with a football. Been an argentina fan ever since!
Sports are just about having fun(and sometimes not so much fun). All this patriotism talk is cutting it very close to racism!!
Sports and politics, patriotism etc, should not mix in my humble opinion!

I am still a fan of gary lineker, a great footballer and a true gentleman!
 
Everyone can support who they want.....i think the reason Indians were treat with respect back in the day [MENTION=110712]Captain caveman was that they were never a threat in shape or form and then they become part of the governing body due to it's financial clout.
 
England are very good but they aren't likeable. I can tell you everyone in Scotland is backing NZ.
 
Yep let cricket be the winner it is good for the game when a new champion will be crowned. So may the best team win come Sunday (i can only watch the first innings as I am in Aus)
 
Yep let cricket be the winner it is good for the game when a new champion will be crowned. So may the best team win come Sunday (i can only watch the first innings as I am in Aus)
Thats unlucky that you can't watch the full match!
But lucky for you that you live in aus now, must be better than manchester!
 
Hopefully England wins this as it is the most consistent one day team for the past 2-3 years. It's time for the reward of the hard work.
 
I will be very happy for our [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION], Nasser Hussain, Micheal Atherton, and all England fans if they win on Sunday!!!
 
Not a northern.....from down south but may just sleep all day sunday so i can stay up :)

In the last world cup in australia and new zealand, the matches in aus started at 11pm and finished around 8am uk time. The matches in new zealand would start at 1am and finish about 10 am uk time.
I watched all the pak games and it was a killer!
Don't think i could do that for any other team!
But it is the world cup final, which only happens once every 4 years, so l might do it as a one off!
You say you are supporting england in the final?
Have you become more fond of england and the england cricket team, since you now live in australia?
As they say, absence makes the heart fonder?!! Or is that just a myth?!!
 
England are very good but they aren't likeable. I can tell you everyone in Scotland is backing NZ.

I like the scots!
I remenber when andy murray was provoked by tim henman and said that he wanted anyone but england to win the world cup!
The english went crazy, abusing the poor chap. They abused him and called him SCOTTISH this and that! But when he won wimbledon, the english loved murray, he was a BRITISH hero!!
I'm more in tune with the scots then the english!!
If scotland were in the cricket world cup final, i would support them 100% !
Unless of course, they were playing pakistan!!
 
If england win the cricket world cup, all the british pakistanis supporting england can do a bhangra and all the english fans can do some morris dancing!!😊
 
In the last world cup in australia and new zealand, the matches in aus started at 11pm and finished around 8am uk time. The matches in new zealand would start at 1am and finish about 10 am uk time.
I watched all the pak games and it was a killer!
Don't think i could do that for any other team!
But it is the world cup final, which only happens once every 4 years, so l might do it as a one off!
You say you are supporting england in the final?
Have you become more fond of england and the england cricket team, since you now live in australia?
As they say, absence makes the heart fonder?!! Or is that just a myth?!!

Oh i think you hit the nail on the head been away nearly 8 years and yes feel more English than I ever did while living there!
 
Oh i think you hit the nail on the head been away nearly 8 years and yes feel more English than I ever did while living there!
You don't know what you have til its gone!!
So supporting england will be almost rekindling your old english roots?
So which is better england or australia?
And who did you support in the semi final - england or australia?
 
I'm 80% sure I saw Adil Rashid walk past me at jummah at Central Mosque today as well, England have this one in the bag. Chris Woakes + the power of Birmingham salat will prove unstoppable for the Kiwis.

IT'S COMING HOME BOYS.

Yes! The Mac is back! Our WC mascot :akhtar - A friend of mine also bumped into quiet a few England players all very jolly, interactive and approchable unlike the Indians, the oldie legends were lit though like Laxman and Gavaskar.
 
NZ deserve respect and credit, it's a 50/50 game and potentially a thriller but hopefully England get over the line.

With regards to support, everyone is free to do what they want; but don't demonise peoples choices and make assumptions.
 
The TEA was absolutely fantastic :ashwin , am glad there is a reason for the bahart army to try to get involved in the proceedings this sunday hehehe
 
No one should be "demonised" for supporting a cricket team!
Its only a game, has no real significance in life, apart from giving joy and sometimes a little pain!
Everyone is free to support whoever their heart wants them to support, just like everyone is free NOT to support a cricket team, if their heart doesn't allow them to!!!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fine gesture by ECB to send '92 WCup finalists a replica of current shirt with our names on. Mine is a bit snugger than the original but that won't matter when England go one better than us on Sunday <a href="https://t.co/5xzFFlS8PE">pic.twitter.com/5xzFFlS8PE</a></p>— Derek Pringle (@derekpringle) <a href="https://twitter.com/derekpringle/status/1149777251480875008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Hope they win or all this hype will look bad!
 
You don't know what you have til its gone!!
So supporting england will be almost rekindling your old english roots?
So which is better england or australia?
And who did you support in the semi final - england or australia?

England is and always be home :)

Which better....both have their pro and cons but at the moment home is Australia.
I will always support England over Australia as the Aussie arrogance and self righteous cricket team is pretty on par with the English teams of yester years.

My son who is half Aussie but British born but lived in Aus all his life is a Pakistan supporter first, then England and Australia a distant third!
 
England is and always be home :)

Which better....both have their pro and cons but at the moment home is Australia.
I will always support England over Australia as the Aussie arrogance and self righteous cricket team is pretty on par with the English teams of yester years.

My son who is half Aussie but British born but lived in Aus all his life is a Pakistan supporter first, then England and Australia a distant third!
Home is where the heart is!
So your son supports pakistan then england then australia! So he gets 3 chances to win the world cup(lol)!
My son doesn't like cricket, he prefers video games(lol)!
Anyway, lets see who wins tomorrow, should be a good final!
 
Home is where the heart is!
So your son supports pakistan then england then australia! So he gets 3 chances to win the world cup(lol)!
My son doesn't like cricket, he prefers video games(lol)!
Anyway, lets see who wins tomorrow, should be a good final!
Yes he has 3 options so not bad in cricket. No consoles as yet but let's see how long that lasts (but does play Minecraft on the PC).
May the best team win
 
Yes he has 3 options so not bad in cricket. No consoles as yet but let's see how long that lasts (but does play Minecraft on the PC).
May the best team win
Kids are smart, my son also plays minecraft, i don't get it, build what? Looks like a 1980s video game (lol)!
Yeah may the best team win!
 
Sunday 14th July 2019 , Lords , London cricket returns home :wg

Congratulations England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Unlucky NZ you deserved to win too.
 
Reduced to tears, what a game! England bring cricket home literally!!! WORLD CHAMPIONS!
 
Special sympathies with the Indians in attendance hoping for an England loss and also those sore/sad/miserable souls on PP who were hoping for an England defeat I see you, always remember; the sun WILL NEVER SET ON THE BRITISH EMPIRE!
 
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What a fantastic advert for the game on FTA ! I hope the ECB learns from this moving forward! [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] even neutrals and casuals, those who have no interest have been excited by this game and win, credit to this majestic England team, get them all a damn knighthood immediately!
 
What a fantastic advert for the game on FTA ! I hope the ECB learns from this moving forward! [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] even neutrals and casuals, those who have no interest have been excited by this game and win, credit to this majestic England team, get them all a damn knighthood immediately!
Only Stokes deserves it
 
The GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME! THE GREATEST WORLD CUP WINNING TEAM OF ALL TIME! THE GREATEST NATION IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!

ARE YOU WATCHING INDIA!?

:))) :))) :)))

Travelled so many miles and spent insane amounts only to see the BRITISH EMPIRE wield its sword once more! and then there's those of you on here, praying to your many gods that we fail, wasting your beautiful sunday evening not that you have anything productive to do! but only to see ENGLAND win the WORLD CUP!
 
Special sympathies with the Indians in attendance hoping for an England loss and also those sore/sad/miserable souls on PP who were hoping for an England defeat I see you, always remember; the sun WILL NEVER SET ON THE BRITISH EMPIRE!

Lol .. most of us were neutral , just wanted to see a good game.
 
ENGURLAND! Engurland! ENGURLAND! Engurland! Engurland! ENGURLAND!

:))) :))) :)))

Hahahaha I am so happy, I hope everyone against this beautiful team feel absolutely awful. Keep hating yo!
 
The greatest final on the grandest of stages . What a way for England to lift the trophy .

This English team is way ahead of the rest.
 
I can't believe all the nasty hatred prior to this game, a bunch of hard working guys who dedicated themselves for 4 years! 4 years! meticulous planning, sacrifice, the blood, sweat and tears; becoming number 1 yet their remained a hostility due to ignorance and narrow minds, the cricket being played by England of a high calibre is to be admired! They put the damn CHAMPION! in WORLD CHAMPION!

What a team! what a golden generation! truly blessed to be watching England, such a joy to watch! take a bow.

Congrats to all England supporters! everyone else can get lost!
 
Congratulations to everyone for whom England was their geographical location even if not their first team that they supported, hopefully this win could make the home fans make England be their first love.
 
Also a thought to NZ team and KW who have been spectacular, fair play to how they fought :bow: unlike other more over rated teams and players these guys actually were substance rather then hype [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]
 
Congratulations to everyone for whom England was their geographical location even if not their first team that they supported, hopefully this win could make the home fans make England be their first love.

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There there you big baby :))) always remember the RAJ owns ya"ll and we don't regret the past one bit, you deserve it all
 
I can't believe all the nasty hatred prior to this game, a bunch of hard working guys who dedicated themselves for 4 years! 4 years! meticulous planning, sacrifice, the blood, sweat and tears; becoming number 1 yet their remained a hostility due to ignorance and narrow minds, the cricket being played by England of a high calibre is to be admired! They put the damn CHAMPION! in WORLD CHAMPION!

What a team! what a golden generation! truly blessed to be watching England, such a joy to watch! take a bow.

Congrats to all England supporters! everyone else can get lost!

Relax buddy. :yk
 
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There there you big baby :))) always remember the RAJ owns ya"ll and we don't regret the past one bit, you deserve it all

Lol, I agree Shaz, hated England winning, I would had rather taken Pak winning over this irrespective congratulations to you, probably their only loyal supportr other than [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] [MENTION=139981]HitWicket[/MENTION] congratulations to them as well.
 
Also a thought to NZ team and KW who have been spectacular, fair play to how they fought :bow: unlike other more over rated teams and players these guys actually were substance rather then hype [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Great team , great nation & wonderful people who are living proof of how sport should be played. Respect to the Kiwis couldn’t be higher .
 
What a fantastic advert for the game on FTA ! I hope the ECB learns from this moving forward! [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] even neutrals and casuals, those who have no interest have been excited by this game and win, credit to this majestic England team, get them all a damn knighthood immediately!

Wow, it's gonna take a long time to absorb this World Cup match. Drama was off the charts.

Couldn't ask for a better advert for cricket on FTA television !
 
It’s coming home, it’s coming home, it’s coming
Home, it’s coming home
It’s coming home, it’s coming home, it’s coming
Home, it’s coming home
It’s coming home, it’s coming home, it’s coming
Home it’s coming home
It’s coming home, it’s coming home, it’s coming
Cricket's coming home

Everyone used to know the score
We’d seen England before
Pushing ones
What a bore

But one day Straussy shared his big dream
To create a new team
With attack as a theme
And now we’re singing

Three Lions and a Crown
Captain Morgan’s England
Never will lay down
Don’t stop believing

Jonnie and J-Roy start the fun
With Root and Jos to come
Boundaries flow
Watch ‘em go
And then they’re followed by Stokes
Woody, Willey and Woakes
Rash and Plunkett and Mo
And they’re all singing

Three Lions and a Crown
Captain Morgan’s England
Never will lay down
Don’t stop believing

So let’s stand for our team – And deliver the dream

It’s coming home, it’s coming home, it’s coming
Home, it’s coming home

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