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What a clinical campaign at home, it couldn't happen to a more hard working and dedicated bunch, after some seriously humiliating campaigns England are in the World Cup final at LORD's ! a fairy tale !

Such a breathtaking team to watch, if you're a fan of the game; you just have to admire their style of play and the way they have gone about things, this has been in the works since 2015 and credit to all those involved!
 
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Only fitting that a brummie has put England in the WC final with a MOM bowling performance :ashwin

We need a smiley for Woakes :mv
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Your thoughts, surely nothing will stand in the way of this team from bringing back glory to this country - my only anger is the fact that this tournament has not been on FTA but am sure the WC final will be hopefully.

The consistency, planning and completely changing the way forward in how we approach the modern game is a great example to follow, yes we have the talent and players but the meticulous planning and change in mindset deserves monumental credit
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Your thoughts, surely nothing will stand in the way of this team from bringing back glory to this country - my only anger is the fact that this tournament has not been on FTA but am sure the WC final will be hopefully.

The consistency, planning and completely changing the way forward in how we approach the modern game is a great example to follow, yes we have the talent and players but the meticulous planning and change in mindset deserves monumental credit

People were quick to write them off after a stutter because they don’t value hard work and consistency. England’s World Cup journey started in April 2015, and this is the culmination of their hard work. Success is a process and they identified that process.

This is a lesson for teams like Pakistan.
 
Well done England. Scary batting line up.

Finally the world will get a new world cup winner.
 
People were quick to write them off after a stutter because they don’t value hard work and consistency. England’s World Cup journey started in April 2015, and this is the culmination of their hard work. Success is a process and they identified that process.

This is a lesson for teams like Pakistan.

Both finalists lost to Pakistan though. Whats that a culmination of? :yk
 
Nothing is ever certain in cricket and particularly not a WC Final.

But England have got big momentum here, beating the three other top rated teams in three matches.

Home turf, no WI pace attack and no Wasim & Mushtaq to face this time.
 
People were quick to write them off after a stutter because they don’t value hard work and consistency. England’s World Cup journey started in April 2015, and this is the culmination of their hard work. Success is a process and they identified that process.

This is a lesson for teams like Pakistan.

I think I can only recall myself and you giving them a chance despite their defeats in the tournament, but when you have prepared as well as England you can afford a few blips at time because that class is permanent; they've had their backs against the wall and under a great deal of pressure due to the losses and it being a home WC; am sure the past humiliations were also at the back of the mind so to see them get to this point is just remarkable, the whole country will be behind the team
 
Sunday will be the best ODI final in cricket history....because England are playing the final at Lords.

You can play on your slow low, rank turners with your lazy captains or teams full of oldies. You can watch Bollywood and start believing your bat turns to fire when you hit the ball. You can spot a Kangaroo thinking you can hop over any opposition.....

But you can never be England. The inventors, the greatest cricket ground ,the home of cricket. History , tradition, passion and class can only be truly found in the land of green rolling hills and beard of WG grace. No need to mind the cows either now!

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I think I can only recall myself and you giving them a chance despite their defeats in the tournament, but when you have prepared as well as England you can afford a few blips at time because that class is permanent; they've had their backs against the wall and under a great deal of pressure due to the losses and it being a home WC; am sure the past humiliations were also at the back of the mind so to see them get to this point is just remarkable, the whole country will be behind the team

The key was that they stuck to their guns. They could have easily buckled under pressure and changed their approach after the Australia defeat, but they backed themselves in spite of pressure from all quarters.
 
Wow, England have blown away a pretty strong Australian team! Congratulations on such a great performance!

A pretty boring semi-final mind you. But I suppose, thank you Roy for this? What an asset he´s to this team and what a difference it makes if he´s playing, and as proven in this tournament itself, if he´s not playing either.

All in all, we´ll have a new ODI Champion team for the first time since 1996, as neither of the finalists have won a world cup before. This is great for the game in my opinion.
 
Sunday will be the best ODI final in cricket history....because England are playing the final at Lords.

You can play on your slow low, rank turners with your lazy captains or teams full of oldies. You can watch Bollywood and start believing your bat turns to fire when you hit the ball. You can spot a Kangaroo thinking you can hop over any opposition.....

But you can never be England. The inventors, the greatest cricket ground ,the home of cricket. History , tradition, passion and class can only be truly found in the land of green rolling hills and beard of WG grace. No need to mind the cows either now!

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What a beautiful post! and we didn't need to cut corners to reach the grandest stage of them all! what a beautiful / sporting tournament it has been and believe you me, barring the advantage of home support, if NZ play well they will triumph as the better team on the day, they wont find themselves handicapped like they would in other parts. But this a mighty England team and even on a sporting wicket with all their quality surely and god willing they will win the big one!
 
Congratulations England, well played.

I used to think that the English bowling is suspect, especially after they conceded 348 to Pakistan. Hafeez and Sarfaraz of all people thrashed the bowling.

Today however, English bowling was just super. They overcame Australia winning the toss.
 
Both finalists lost to Pakistan though. Whats that a culmination of? :yk

I guess that makes Pakistan the real Champion, and as India beat Pakistan, it makes India the Champion of Champions!
 
The semi-final performance made me cringe even more as an Indian fan a day after watching my team play. When Lyon came on, they didn't think of seeing him off and instead took him down. When Smith was brought on to tantalize Roy, he didn't think, 'I will not get out to him' and instead proceeded to destroy him.

Sunday will be the best ODI final in cricket history....because England are playing the final at Lords.

You can play on your slow low, rank turners with your lazy captains or teams full of oldies. You can watch Bollywood and start believing your bat turns to fire when you hit the ball. You can spot a Kangaroo thinking you can hop over any opposition.....

But you can never be England. The inventors, the greatest cricket ground ,the home of cricket. History , tradition, passion and class can only be truly found in the land of green rolling hills and beard of WG grace. No need to mind the cows either now!

England...England...England..

First win no, before becoming full poet and all :rabada2
 
I guess that makes Pakistan the real Champion, and as India beat Pakistan, it makes India the Champion of Champions!

No it only counts if you beat the finalists. India lost to both finalists while Pak won against both :genius:
 
Can't take it away from England who have been superb. It is gonna be a real surprise if the Kiwis don't end up as best man again instead of the groom. For most fans it is refreshing not to see Australia in the final for once. I will be rooting for the Kiwis without mocking the English. Let the New Zealand and England fans enjoy their day on Sunday. Uncle WG will be a proud man today:wg
 
In a way, I think it’s excellent that these two teams will meet in the Final.

They always get along and play hard.

Sunday should be fun as the outcome will produce something for the greater good of cricket.
 
I´ve been full of praise for Carey throughout the tournament as I´ve highlighted each innings of his, even a valuable 30 odd against the West Indies, and I´m still a fan of this marvelous player, but what an atrocious shot that was to get out! He´s young of course and will learn as he´ll gain experience into the game. I don´t want to sound too harsh either given that he got a very bad blow on his chin. On the contrary, very brave on his part to have continued to bat so well further on. However, given the situation, that nothing of a shot ended up making a difference of around 30 to 40 runs in the end. He just needed to fight it on with Smith out there and then look for the big hits post the 35th over.

Well done to Smith though for playing for his team. An excellent and a fighting innings. Feel sad for Australia though. They´ve been so brilliant at ODI World Cup editions that this is their first ever semi-final loss! Tells you much about their team´s ability of seizing the big moments.
 
Ian Chappell before the SFs:

"An Australia-India final is likely and that's not good for the game"

What a fool. You'd have thought after all those decades of playing and commentating on cricket he'd know anything can happen in a knockout game. Why would you presume such an outcome ?

Well done England, goes to show what happens when you accept your shortcomings, and then put in the hard work to improve your game. However the job isn't done.
 
Ian Chappell before the SFs:

"An Australia-India final is likely and that's not good for the game"

What a fool. You'd have thought after all those decades of playing and commentating on cricket he'd know anything can happen in a knockout game. Why would you presume such an outcome ?

Well done England, goes to show what happens when you accept your shortcomings, and then put in the hard work to improve your game. However the job isn't done.

To be fair to him, those two did too the charts.

They just weren’t at their best during the SF’s but that’s that.
 
Both teams deserve to be in finals and both have their reasons to win..
I hope it's a cracking final and the better team wins.

Good luck and congratulations to both the teams.
 
To be fair to him, those two did too the charts.

They just weren’t at their best during the SF’s but that’s that.

England are the home favourites but he made out as if it was a foregone conclusion for Australia. England were unlikely to play as badly as they did at Lord's.
 
England are the home favourites but he made out as if it was a foregone conclusion for Australia. England were unlikely to play as badly as they did at Lord's.

That’s true but Ian is an old chap.

He thought like some of us (including me) that AUS had a mental advantage over England.

Hindsight is 20-20 but Australia also beat England twice in the tournament (warm-up and group stage).

So, it wasn’t too difficult for him to predict which team would come through.
 
Now I want New Zealand to win even more. Screw England, little babies will complain if the pitch has anything in it.
 
Sunday will be the best ODI final in cricket history....because England are playing the final at Lords.

You can play on your slow low, rank turners with your lazy captains or teams full of oldies. You can watch Bollywood and start believing your bat turns to fire when you hit the ball. You can spot a Kangaroo thinking you can hop over any opposition.....

But you can never be England. The inventors, the greatest cricket ground ,the home of cricket. History , tradition, passion and class can only be truly found in the land of green rolling hills and beard of WG grace. No need to mind the cows either now!

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England deserve to be in the final. Their turnaround after loosing to Australia has been excellent. And shows they can handle the pressure.

I expect them to win the final.
 
Good thing England's in the final. This could be the rejuvenation English cricket needs.
 
England vs NZ is like France vs Croatia from FIFA World Cup.

Just like France crushed Croatia, I also expect England to win this by a big margin.

Let's see what happens.
 
England will be favourites, especially if the pitch is flat.
But NZ have been so lucky this wc, reminds me so much of the 1992 wc final and we know what happened to england in that final!
New zealands best chance is if its cloudy, its definetly a new pitch and most likely flat.
NZ should bat first if given the oppotunity and open with grandhomme and guptil!
Drop nicholls and play ish sodhi!
play both santner and ish sodhi, and england will struggle, with a bowling line up of boult, henry, fergie,santner and sodhi!
I wouldn't bowl grandhomme, but may bowl neesham!

The lords pitch will turn and santner and ish sodhi can run through this england middle order!
Boult and henry can rip apart the top order and fergie can blow away the tail!

If NZ pick sodhi and open with grandhomme, i predict a NZ WIN!
 
NZ can only win this if bowlers perform well. Their batting is ordinary.

I also think NZ should play two spinners. Nicholls is out of form anyway.
 
New Zealand are the underdogs.This England team is very strong.They have a strong batting line up and with the addition of Archer,the bowling is very strong too.
 
Since I am not a British Pakistani I am happily gonna support New Zealand and bet against English cry babies without feeling guilty about it.
 
New Zealand are the underdogs.This England team is very strong.They have a strong batting line up and with the addition of Archer,the bowling is very strong too.
England are suspect to spin!
People claim morgan is good at playing spin, not quality spin of santner and sodhi, on a spin friendly lords track!
Boult and henry need to get roy out early, bairstow doesn't look as if he will play.
If buttler opens, then again boult and henry need to take him out!
The other main stay is stokes who can't play spin.
And root will be stubborn, but bats slow. The more i think about it and if NZ pick sodhi to partner santner, i see NZ winning this game!
 
Well done England and NZ.
We should all be very happy that both the finalists have never won the CWC. It's a great opportunity for both teams to create history.
 
People were quick to write them off after a stutter because they don’t value hard work and consistency. England’s World Cup journey started in April 2015, and this is the culmination of their hard work. Success is a process and they identified that process.

This is a lesson for teams like Pakistan.

Well said. They also played the most exciting brand of cricket and I think have revolutionised the game. ODI Cricket will never be the same.
 
At least hoping for a well contested match, not like the SF we saw today.
Wish NZ bats first and scores 300+ . Then we'll have a match on our hands.
Supporting the Kiwis
 
People were writing them off only because they lost 3 games and were very close to elimination. This is virtually the 3rd knockout game they've played in a row! Credit goes to England for standing up when they had their backs against the wall. Surely they're now used to the pressure of being one game away from being knocked out - bodes well for their chances for the Finals.

That said, I just like the kiwi team more and will be rooting for NZ!
 
I hope it’s an exciting game .... and then England win.
Cricket is drinking at the last chance saloon outside Asia and particularly in England. Hopefully this will generate some excitement — living here you barely know it’s going on with Wimbledon inevitably getting all the headlines and the football season starting on a few weeks.
 
I hope it’s an exciting game .... and then England win.
Cricket is drinking at the last chance saloon outside Asia and particularly in England. Hopefully this will generate some excitement — living here you barely know it’s going on with Wimbledon inevitably getting all the headlines and the football season starting on a few weeks.
Even if england win the wc, the excitement about cricket will be short lived, just like in 2005, when england won the ashes!!
The truth is that cricket in england is a minor sport, people will claim its our summer sport, but wimbledon(tennis) is far more popular!!
 
Even if england win the wc, the excitement about cricket will be short lived, just like in 2005, when england won the ashes!!
The truth is that cricket in england is a minor sport, people will claim its our summer sport, but wimbledon(tennis) is far more popular!!
Football > rugby > boxing > ufc > golf > tennis > F1 > snooker > athletics >>>cricket!!!
 
i always always always wanted england to win major tournaments. that is something beyond explanation..
 
New Zealand to win.

Let's keep the whiny English cricket fraternity whining and winless for a little longer
 
I guess that makes Pakistan the real Champion, and as India beat Pakistan, it makes India the Champion of Champions!
And since England defeated India they get back the cup
 
There will be a new world cup winner this sunday. This is as exiciting as it gets for both teams and their fans.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if Boult rips through England. It can happen at lord's. KG did it a little while ago.
If there is anything there for Boult he can easily get 2 or 3 early.
This is by no means done yet
 
Great post :)
I hope there is a real buzz around the final in England and let's hope that it comes home. Also what it shows it that 4 yr period can turn a team around.
 
I said it many months ago that this was England's cup, I said it when they lost to Pakistan and Sri Lanka, this was still England's cup.

As the final draws closer, the most important game in recent English cricket history, I am not so certain because finals are not always won by the best team and New Zealand have scraped and fight, slugged it out, been ugly, been a team, been losers, been lost, have won. You see, they may not be the best team but they may win.
 
good team but I would still pick pakistan and india to beat them overall.

rank turners : both india and Pakistan would win 8/10 in crucial matches regardless whether they win or lose toss.

flat bouncy wickets: india wins 7/10 in crucial matches. yes india is good on bouncy wickets. pakistan struggle on bounce so advantage England

belters: toss matters. 50 50. maybe slight advantage to England.

low bouncing seaming wickets: tough one to pick. still a toss up. toss matters in crucial matches.

well done England but you are nothing special. C'mon new zeland, kill these dweebs.
 
I said it many months ago that this was England's cup, I said it when they lost to Pakistan and Sri Lanka, this was still England's cup.

As the final draws closer, the most important game in recent English cricket history, I am not so certain because finals are not always won by the best team and New Zealand have scraped and fight, slugged it out, been ugly, been a team, been losers, been lost, have won. You see, they may not be the best team but they may win.

Maybe a repeat of 1992 could happen the team that scraped in on the virtue of NNR goes on and wins!
 
Hope NZ wins so these double crossers who pretend to be Pak fans then jump on the England bandwagon are put in place. :asad2

#TheyHaven’tTheyWon’t
 
Hope NZ wins so these double crossers who pretend to be Pak fans then jump on the England bandwagon are put in place. :asad2

#TheyHaven’tTheyWon’t
I am a brit, but i find it hard to support the england and wales cricket team, when i have watched for over 35 years, negativity and hostility, towards the pakistan cricket team and their players coming from the england and wales cricket team!
Not seen them behave like that against any other team!!
 
We are not double crosses.....we just have a second team which is where most of us are born and raised. I will never support England over Pakistan but if Pakistan isn't in the picture and it has taken a long time to get to that point. Most supprting Pakistan im cricket proudly support England in Football. May the best team win.....nothing wrong with supporting them at all.
 
I am a brit, but i find it hard to support the england and wales cricket team, when i have watched for over 35 years, negativity and hostility, towards the pakistan cricket team and their players coming from the england and wales cricket team!
Not seen them behave like that against any other team!!

[MENTION=149691]Captain caveman[/MENTION] we seem.about the same age I totally get you as I have felt the same way. I have probably softened in my old age!
 
Good luck to both teams in the final and who ever plays better deserves to win!

My prediction is a new zealand win!
 
Good luck to my home team England. After so much wait they will win something in my lifetime. They are the most deserving team this time around with very attacking batsmen, strong leader, consistent and fair selections , and pacey and accurate attack ably supported by two reliable spinners.
 
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[MENTION=149691]Captain caveman[/MENTION] we seem.about the same age I totally get you as I have felt the same way. I have probably softened in my old age!
I would support them as times have changed, but unfortunately, the england cricket team's attitude towards pakistan hasn't!
You had just recently(a few weeks ago) bairstow making accusations about hasan ali reversing the ball after 12 overs.
Root checking the ball and morgan's innuendo!
Morgan complaining about used pitches when we beat them in the CT!
Basically, if we beat them, its due to unfair means, meaning that we are not good enough to beat them fairly!
The implications are pakistanis are beneath the english!!!
You never hear this kind of stuff when india beat england!!
This goes back decades to abdul qadir and shakoor rana, to wasim and waqar being accused of ball tamperers and even back to the fifties, i think, when the england team KIDNAPPED a pakistani umpire, because they thought he was cheating!!!
Like imran khan said, if a english umpire makes an error, its a genuine mistake, but if a pakistani umpire makes an error its because they are cheating!!

Na, no way can i support this team!!!
 
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[MENTION=149691]Captain caveman[/MENTION] not against India since they become part of the big 3.Yes Pakistan can't win without cheating as per england in the 1992 series post the WC and the ball tampering blew up and Geoffrey Boycott said the 2 Ws would get you out with an orange. I guess superiority doesn't just erase overnight.
 
I support Pakistan first and foremost. Having been born and bred in England, you would think that I would support them too, but I just can't warm to them for some reason. They are a very powerful side and were favourites before the tournament began. If they win the WC they will deserve it.

Whoever wins on Sunday, I will be happy. I like the NZ team too, more due to Kane, Guptill, Boult and Ferguson.
 
[MENTION=149691]Captain caveman[/MENTION] not against India since they become part of the big 3.Yes Pakistan can't win without cheating as per england in the 1992 series post the WC and the ball tampering blew up and Geoffrey Boycott said the 2 Ws would get you out with an orange. I guess superiority doesn't just erase overnight.
Geoffrey boycott is a good honest man and has always been kind to pakistan players.
I have met many men and ladies in my life who are like boycott, good, honest, decent people!
I would say most brits are like this, obviously, you get the nasty minority, but you get that in every country!
As a brit, i would like to support england, but i believe english cricket is entrenched in an anti pakistan mentality!
India even before becoming apart of the big 3 was treated with respect when they beat england, pakistan always with distain!
As long as the english cricket team, do not respect the pakistan cricket team and their players, i can't support them!!
 
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I’m super-excited for the match.

To beat India, New Zealand and Australia consecutively, in what were effectively all knockout games (not just the semi-final), has been a magnificent effort and I am extremely proud of the team.

Sunday’s final will be highly competitive and anything can happen.
 
Geoffrey boycott is a good honest man and has always been kind to pakistan players.
I have met many men and ladies in my life who are like boycott, good, honest, decent people!
I would say most brits are like this, obviously, you get the nasty minority, but you get that in every country!
As a brit, i would like to support england, but i believe english cricket is entrenched in an anti pakistan mentality!
India even before becoming apart of the big 3 was treated with respect when they beat england, pakistan always with distain!
As long as the english cricket team, do not respect the pakistan cricket team and their players, i can't support them!!

It really depends which elements you refer to. I can't complain about the administrators' treatment of Pakistan. ECB have invited Pakistan for tours in 2016, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021 and they are genuinely trying to engage with the Asian community. A Brit is now heading our cricket board.

Pundits are a mixed bag. There are many English commentators with a big soft spot for Pakistan, probably because of how many Pakistanis used to play in County Cricket alongside them and a respect was developed.
You mention Geoff Boycott who spoke up for Pakistan in 1992, he also defended Pakistan during Inzamam's 2006 ball tampering hearing.

Nasser definitely has a soft spot for Pakistan while Atherton was a big supporter of Amir's rehabilitation.

It's people like Botham who leave a sour taste. Another guy who couldn't hide his contempt for Pakistan was Jack Bannister. He commentated for BBC and later Talksport.

I thought he was dreadful.
 
To be honest, although Brexit Britain is increasingly becoming a nastier place I don't see why British Pakistani fans should keep carrying a chip on the shoulder from the 70s and 80s.

This is the most representative England team in a long time. You have a black Barbadian opening the bowling and two British Pakistanis - one a leggie from Bradford and an offie from Birmingham in the attack. You even have Saqlain in their backroom staff.
 
To be honest, I wanted England to lift the trophy from the very beginning of this tournament. They thoroughly deserve it. Hard work, after correct planning and implementing it with the right bunch of players ( I don't like Rashid though) . NZ can have a good day in the final but if they win it will be an upset in my book. WC needs to see a new champion.
 
To be honest, although Brexit Britain is increasingly becoming a nastier place I don't see why British Pakistani fans should keep carrying a chip on the shoulder from the 70s and 80s.

This is the most representative England team in a long time. You have a black Barbadian opening the bowling and two British Pakistanis - one a leggie from Bradford and an offie from Birmingham in the attack. You even have Saqlain in their backroom staff.

Just curious, why England is becoming a nastier place? What is the change there?
 
I’m super-excited for the match.

To beat India, New Zealand and Australia consecutively, in what were effectively all knockout games (not just the semi-final), has been a magnificent effort and I am extremely proud of the team.

Sunday’s final will be highly competitive and anything can happen.

Are you gona be there in the final?

And what you reckon english supporter will take england seriously if england win the cup?
Because at the moment i don't see any excitement from english fans

Even the main news channels promotion of cricket has been really pathetic which is very sad to see.

They are giving more coverage to some third grade football league than cricket
 
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