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"It's not the time to panic and make wholesale changes to the team" : Shoaib Malik

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Shoaib Malik at a press conference today

"No matter what team you're losing to, the best thing to do is to talk about and come up with different plans, if the plans and execution isn't working out. The best way is to communicate. We're going through some tough times but that happens in cricket and this is not the end of the world. We lost 2 games to India and there are areas we need to improve and we've spoken about it and in the coming game, you'll be able to see some changes, in terms of changing individual plans"

"When you play a match against a big team, there is pressure on you. If anyone says there isn't pressure on me, I think they are lying. If we compare the Indian and Pakistan teams' players, the number of matches the Indian team plays is much more so I think lack of experience played a part for us, rather than lack of skill. It's a building process and needs time, it's not the time to panic and make wholesale changes to the team, so that new players take 30-40 matches to get settled, and we'll lose a lot again during that period which will cause even more panic. This way the rotation policy keeps happening and a team doesn't stand up"

"We should look to the Indian team and their system for how they develop players, as they are one of the best sides in the world. This is the time to give confidence to the players which the management, captain and selection committee has done. The chairman came to the dressing room after the game and said go out there and give it your best shot, it happens in cricket"

"In terms of our batting lineup, there is some stability that we need. These pitches aren't the type where you think of 300-350, but if you don't lose wickets, there comes a time when you can make runs. Lack of experience is a factor as experienced players can assess the conditions but I'm sure these players have a lot of talent and have performed a lot for Pakistan, and these same players will make a comeback inshaAllah"

"We talk about the bowling but we don't discuss the way Dhawan and Rohit are playing and they deserve credit. It's true that we missed a couple of catches but that's a part of the game, when you're in good form then often your catches are dropped. As far as the bowling goes, there's no player in the world who performs everyday. However, there is some work needed for us, compared to the way Bhuvi and Bumrah are bowling. It's not as though if you've played 200 games and someone else has played 5, you can't learn from the latter. You need to keep your mind open"

"My goal is to see whoever is coming to bowl, see what he's going to do and see what my team needs from me. I just try to play according to the situation, when you make things difficult then you start feeling pressure. I don't make things difficult and put extra pressure on myself. When you've played so much cricket, you have confidence which is what's lacking in our team but everyone is backing the players"

"Senior players in the dressing room don't just have a responsibility to perform, their goal is to groom the youngsters also which is a big responsibility. It's just that when you lose, if you don't make too many changes, eventually you'll stand up. As long as you're grooming the right products, that means your cricket is going in the right direction which I think is the case with our cricket. I'm sure our players will come up with better plans and improve"

"If you ask any commentator or any legend, they still say that Pakistan has the best bowling attack. Just losing two matches to a world class team doesn't mean we don't have variety, we have all the combinations. It's just execution that's missing. We have so many youngsters in the team, the more they play, the more they learn and that's where we need to improve"

"I think Amir, in my opinion, is suffering from lack of confidence. Everyone's backing him, we all know he's a world class bowler and he's done so well for the country and he will do it inshaAllah again. Everyone's talking to him, that phase comes in your life, it's pretty normal, I'm sure he'll find his solutions"

"Any game is crucial, specially since it'll be a knockout. It's just that when you've lost to some team and you haven't done well, it brings a lot of negativity in the dressing room. Due to that, we had a couple of meetings to just try to forget what has happened against India and what's coming up, and what can be done for that game. We'll give our best"

"Being a cricketer, I don't believe in strong teams and underdogs. On that particular day, if 2-3 bowlers and batsmen do well in ODIs, you end up winning. We're not thinking about how much we've played here etc, we have the combinations and execution needs to be good. Whoever is in good form needs to perform on a consistent basis to help the team"

"After losing the first game against India, the next one was the time to come back hard and we tried our best, but it happens. Every game is important. One thing that we lack is that if we perform, we sit back and we have that culture in our country and that's something the management is trying to change. Everyday is a new day, you get new opportunities and your goal is to go out there and give it your best shot. We need to improve as individuals, it's not the management or board's responsibility, it's your goal to fulfil what the management asks of you. You can't promise anyone that you'll score a hundred or take a 5fer but the goal is to go out there and give it your best shot and that's what our management is emphasising on"
 
Agreed entirely. The team is young and inexperienced so sudden lapses in performance will be common. The issue now for coaching staff is to minimise that and to keep the young players motivated.
 
"One thing that we lack is that if we perform, we sit back and we have that culture in our country and that's something the management is trying to change"

This is what stood out for me. Complacency.
 
No need to make wholesale changes. Just need to get rid of the passengers and currently, Sarfraz is a passenger. We also need to take a really good look at Imam and assess whether he can play these knocks against better teams and at a higher strike rate. If that is not possible, we should look for a new opener.
 
I listened to his presser. While I wholeheartedly agree with the need to give confidence and not make knee jerk changes, I also think we should not make it all about lack of experience. Maybe it was not malik's intent but it made it sound like that all players who lack experience will not perform. Quite to the contrary, one of the ways to combat pressure is to want it. You have to embrace the idea of being in the thick of things of wanting to play the big moments.
 
Malik actually talks and has the body language of someone with 200 plus ODI games. It reflects in his batting and personality. The lack of experience in the ODI team especially against quality competition is telling.
 
I think Malik is the only one in Pakistan who keeps calm under pressure.

Others can learn from him.
 
It's pure lack of skill alright don't give inexperience excuse, we have fast bowlers who can't move the ball an inch, can't bowl Yorkers and easily deviates from a plan, spinners who can't spin on spinning tracks, batsmen who don't have power game and can't bat for longer periods, it's pure lack of skills and nothing to do with experience, surely experience would help but you need to have a certain skill set to make use of it.
 
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No need to make wholesale changes. Just need to get rid of the passengers and currently, Sarfraz is a passenger. We also need to take a really good look at Imam and assess whether he can play these knocks against better teams and at a higher strike rate. If that is not possible, we should look for a new opener.

There is no better wicketkeeper batsman in the country and his performances are still better than Kamran Akmal. Sarfraz is a new captain and has lots on his plate to balance captaincy of inexperienced team playing against one of the best ODI team, and having to bat like a full time batsman due to Pak batting order lacking one proper batsman. He is no Gilchrist or Dhoni with bat but good enough for us and last match his partnership with Malik got us to reasonable score but Indian batsmen are very talented and comfortable on these pitches, they would have chased down even 270 especially with dropped catches. So as Malik says give all the players time to gain experience and workout their game plan against tougher opponents.
 
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Good read. Regardless of what happens in this Asia Cup, this is the group of players Pakistan have to groom for the WC. People need to stop abandoning ship here cause these guys have what it takes. It's a slow progress, I know, but they will come good iA.
 
Good read. Regardless of what happens in this Asia Cup, this is the group of players Pakistan have to groom for the WC. People need to stop abandoning ship here cause these guys have what it takes. It's a slow progress, I know, but they will come good iA.

I am against whole sale changes but you have to identify whether a player is the right fit for modern cricket which is a minimum SR of 90 with the ability to accelerate at 100-120 at the end of the innings or to start of the innings and blast away at a SR of 120-150 plus from ball one. You need atleast 4-5 such batsmen or all rounders in the team and max of 1-2 steady batsmen who can bat at a run a ball and also accelerate in a super fashion mid way and at the end of the innings.

Mickey Arthur talks about aggressive modern cricket but there are too many one dimensional accumulators 90's style batsmen in the form of Imam, Babar, Malik, Sarfaraz in the team. We are playing an out dated brand of cricket for the last 10 plus years while the rest of the world is moving in a different direction
 
I am against whole sale changes but you have to identify whether a player is the right fit for modern cricket which is a minimum SR of 90 with the ability to accelerate at 100-120 at the end of the innings or to start of the innings and blast away at a SR of 120-150 plus from ball one. You need atleast 4-5 such batsmen or all rounders in the team and max of 1-2 steady batsmen who can bat at a run a ball and also accelerate in a super fashion mid way and at the end of the innings.

Mickey Arthur talks about aggressive modern cricket but there are too many one dimensional accumulators 90's style batsmen in the form of Imam, Babar, Malik, Sarfaraz in the team. We are playing an out dated brand of cricket for the last 10 plus years while the rest of the world is moving in a different direction

You're not wrong but we're not exactly blessed with an abundance of these power-hitting type batsman, what we got is what we got. Babar's our best ODI bat, Malik has proven that he has the proper calm mindset to deal with pressure situations, and (regardless of form even though that's not a good excuse) Sarfraz is the captain and is not going anywhere anytime soon. You also got to take into account 2 things:

1) Pakistan are about to play strong teams consistently in the near future as opposed to consistently playing weak teams post CT, so we'll have a better idea of these players' capabilities.

2) Our batting in general LOIs, even by our standards, is much better than it was not too long ago post 2015 WC - pre CT 2017. If our batting has improved to the point where it's enough for our bowlers to defend as a whole, then I'll gladly take that.

Also, in regards to the requirements you pointed out for batsmen in the modern day: yes we have a lot of accumulators but they still have the capability of hitting it big especially Malik and Babar, they're not world class at it but they're not completely devoid of it. I think with Imam the team management want to give him a long rope to see his capabilities as a batsman, whether we like it or not, against stronger opposition (2 games vs India and 1 vs NZ isn't a big sample size to draw conclusions with) but yes I do agree he needs to learn to accelerate. Fakhar, Asif, and Faheem can hit it big with those high SR's and the lower order aren't scrubs with the bat either.

All in all, I'm not saying that we have the perfect modern-day team but at the same time we are far from playing an outdated brand of cricket (the situations we were in vs India made us play, in this case, bat that way), certainly much better then what we used to have in the forms of Shehzads, Akmals, Hafeez, Maqsoods. Again, what we got is what we got and, whether we like it or not, it's a one step at a time process with these boys so we shouldn't expect a massive, up-swinging curve in improvement in the near future.
 
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You're not wrong but we're not exactly blessed with an abundance of these power-hitting type batsman, what we got is what we got. Babar's our best ODI bat, Malik has proven that he has the proper calm mindset to deal with pressure situations, and (regardless of form even though that's not a good excuse) Sarfraz is the captain and is not going anywhere anytime soon. You also got to take into account 2 things:

1) Pakistan are about to play strong teams consistently in the near future as opposed to consistently playing weak teams post CT, so we'll have a better idea of these players' capabilities.

2) Our batting in general LOIs, even by our standards, is much better than it was not too long ago post 2015 WC - pre CT 2017. If our batting has improved to the point where it's enough for our bowlers to defend as a whole, then I'll gladly take that.

Also, in regards to the requirements you pointed out for batsmen in the modern day: yes we have a lot of accumulators but they still have the capability of hitting it big especially Malik and Babar, they're not world class at it but they're not completely devoid of it. I think with Imam the team management want to give him a long rope to see his capabilities as a batsman, whether we like it or not, against stronger opposition (2 games vs India and 1 vs NZ isn't a big sample size to draw conclusions with) but yes I do agree he needs to learn to accelerate. Fakhar, Asif, and Faheem can hit it big with those high SR's and the lower order aren't scrubs with the bat either.

All in all, I'm not saying that we have the perfect modern-day team but at the same time we are far from playing an outdated brand of cricket (the situations we were in vs India made us play, in this case, bat that way), certainly much better then what we used to have in the forms of Shehzads, Akmals, Hafeez, Maqsoods. Again, what we got is what we got and, whether we like it or not, it's a one step at a time process with these boys so we shouldn't expect a massive, up-swinging curve in improvement in the near future.

Sohail Akhtar had a very good PSL. Have no idea why Mickey Arthur has not looked into Sohail Akhtar, Shahibzada Farhan. Why has Hussain Talat been discarded so soon?
 
Sohail Akhtar had a very good PSL. Have no idea why Mickey Arthur has not looked into Sohail Akhtar, Shahibzada Farhan. Why has Hussain Talat been discarded so soon?

None of these players have the temperament for international cricket yet. Sohail Akhtar maybe never.
 
None of these players have the temperament for international cricket yet. Sohail Akhtar maybe never.

Hussain Talat had a good start to his career and scored back to back 50's against the West Indies. Why was he discarded so soon?

So far, I have to say that the present players don't appear to have any sort of temperament either.
 
Players worth persisting from the current squad imo are shadab, shaheen, Amir (only if he get his swing back), babar, imam, Hasan (only if he can move the new ball) and Malik, They definitely have a TALENT but the rest of them are garbage apart from Fakhar which I will give benefit of the doubt but he's definitely not have good enough technique.
 
Sensible comments.We need to back this team as after long time everyone is seeing potential in this team.
 
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Hussain Talat had a good start to his career and scored back to back 50's against the West Indies. Why was he discarded so soon?

So far, I have to say that the present players don't appear to have any sort of temperament either.

I wouldn't say he had a very good start to his career. He hammered a hapless and depleted West Indies bowling attack but went completely missing against Australia in the tri-series. And the reason he wasn't selected was because he went for Hajj when the probables for the Army training camp were being decided. Neither he nor Sahibzada Farhan are discarded.

Also, if you think the answer to our problems is introducing more inexperienced players into the mix, rather than giving our current players a chance to perform then all I can say is that you are very wrong. Almost all of our current players have shown flashes of temperament and they need time and patience to come into their own as genuine match-winners. Chopping and changing will get us nowhere.
 
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I agree with most of what Malik said, chopping and changing has been so harmful to the stability of our team. But the skills gap between India and Pakistan isn't all down to a lack of experience.

How will Imam-ul-Haq with his SR of 70+ in domestic one dayers suddenly learn to increase his range of strokeplay and become a dynamic batsmen with a SR of 90+ in ODIs against better attacks ? Mohammad Amir has played for longer than Jasprit Bumrah yet Bumrah has totally outshone Amir in this Asia Cup with his death over bowling much superior to our pacers.

It's not just a skills gap but a temperament gap too. The moment we're under pressure we hit the panic button - see the run outs, the dropped catches, losing our lengths after getting hit etc. Hopefully for some that'll improve with experience but even our senior players are guilty of this.

Also Malik says "experienced players can assess the conditions" - but the senior management keep making tactical mistakes in the UAE. Why does a senior captain like Sarfraz not ask for a specialist spinner to be selected for a tournament in the UAE - our adopted home for 8 years ?
 
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I agree with most of what Malik said, chopping and changing has been so harmful to the stability of our team. But the skills gap between India and Pakistan isn't all down to a lack of experience.

How will Imam-ul-Haq with his SR of 70+ in domestic one dayers suddenly learn to increase his range of strokeplay and become a dynamic batsmen with a SR of 90+ in ODIs against better attacks ? Mohammad Amir has played for longer than Jasprit Bumrah yet Bumrah has totally outshone Amir in this Asia Cup with his death over bowling much superior to our pacers.

It's not just a skills gap but a temperament gap too. The moment we're under pressure we hit the panic button - see the run outs, the dropped catches, losing our lengths after getting hit etc. Hopefully for some that'll improve with experience but even our senior players are guilty of this.

Also Malik says "experienced players can assess the conditions" - but the senior management keep making tactical mistakes in the UAE. Why does a senior captain like Sarfraz not ask for a specialist spinner to be selected for a tournament in the UAE - our adopted home for 8 years ?

So kind of you to shift all blame on the "senior captain" Sarfaraz but not a word on Mickey or oh I don't know the chief selector Inzi WHOSE JOB IT IS TO ACTUALLY SELECT THE SIDE!!


People and their biases :facepalm:


Team goes to the shitter no worries as long as our favs are well looked after.
 
Malik definitely is the most level-headed guy in the entire Pak team. Deserves to be the captain rather than that passive aggressive guy who is neither a good batsmen, nor a wicket-keeper & definitely not a good captain.
 
So kind of you to shift all blame on the "senior captain" Sarfaraz but not a word on Mickey or oh I don't know the chief selector Inzi WHOSE JOB IT IS TO ACTUALLY SELECT THE SIDE!!


People and their biases :facepalm:


Team goes to the shitter no worries as long as our favs are well looked after.

Mickey and Inzy are part of senior management and deserve criticism. But are you saying the captain has no say in selection matters ?

Even a Dubai taxi driver would've known about the importance of playing at least one specialist spinner in UAE. You'd have thought we'd learn our lesson after SL whitewash in UAE where we were a spinner short.
 
Malik definitely is the most level-headed guy in the entire Pak team. Deserves to be the captain rather than that passive aggressive guy who is neither a good batsmen, nor a wicket-keeper & definitely not a good captain.

Malik as a captain is a dud. Lol he even resigned from the captaincy of the Karachi Kings team. Some people are just better off without that responsibility. He himself admitted in an interview that accepting the captaincy of the Pakistani team in 2007 was the biggest mistake of his career.
 
Malik is one of the most intelligent players out there. Man is smart and tactically well aware of the game. Yet again, he speaks sense. I've already put hopes on him becoming a fine analyst or coach.
 
He is 33-34 (as per records) and has maintained well. With his current form and fitness, he can easily play for another 5-7 years (that's 2 more world cups). Why can't he be the captain? or appoint him a vice-captain who can have his say when on the field?
 
He is 33-34 (as per records) and has maintained well. With his current form and fitness, he can easily play for another 5-7 years (that's 2 more world cups). Why can't he be the captain? or appoint him a vice-captain who can have his say when on the field?

Offically he is 37 years old and his actual age might be 39-40.
 
Totally agree. These bunch of cricketers are really good. We don't need more than 3/4 changes in the squad.
 
He is 33-34 (as per records) and has maintained well. With his current form and fitness, he can easily play for another 5-7 years (that's 2 more world cups). Why can't he be the captain? or appoint him a vice-captain who can have his say when on the field?

He already said that he would retire after the 2019 WC
 
He already said that he would retire after the 2019 WC

I remember Dhoni saying the same thing after the 2011 World Cup victory. He said he might retire well before the 2015 World Cup but....

If Malik feels he is in good form and fit enough, he might reconsider the retirement.
 
Agree with Malik.. but sarfarz doesnt deserve to be the captain of ODI side.. He is not even willing to develop a second keeper in the team.. too scared to loose his position. He is so scared that he doesnt wanna rest some players in useless matches. He is no different then other captains of the past.. I m very disapointed from him. He guides bowlers way too much... No wonder Bowlers like Hasan Ali cant perform..
 
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