Its time to back the team

[Rana]

And plus. BOTH SERVED THEIR 5 YEAR BAN

IF it was such grave an offence, why didn't the ICC ban them for life?

Sick and tired of them just being branded for their past demeanours just so some average cricketers can be glorified here

 

[Rana]

Mate, you have lost your credibility with me at least so I see no point in arguing with you anymore.

I would implore you to leave your agendas aside and back the boys in Green!

Do the same for those who are constantly beating a dead horse

No one is proud of what wrong Amir did, but there are many who still love him for the great things he did do for the country. Stop marginalising those that have that emotional attachment to those wonderful memories.

It has to work both ways, not the one way you like

 

[Major]

Why are you only unhappy with Markhor? Are you implying others that want Amir in the team are low class??

Well you get the point.

 

[Rana]

Well you get the point.

Then why do you cry if you are challenged?

 

[Major]

The match in which Amir and Asif bowled the no-balls, Pakistan WON that match. That is what ultimately matters.

Credibility, credibility kar rahe hoo. Where does this credibility go when sifarshis are made part of the team and even made captain? And as a result we end up losing important ICC events?

Amir and Asif have completed their sentence of 5 long years- dont have to remind them everytime of what they did in the past.

There are degrees of a crime and punishment is given accordingly. You cannot get a life imprisonment for beating up someone but will get 6 months or a year in jail in the UK.

ICC knows this. That is why Amir and Asif got 5 year bans and were NOT banned for life. IF THEY HAD DONE MATCH FIXING, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE.

In my opinion, if they had done match fixing, they should have been shot in the head. Literally. That is how bad a menace match fixing is.

I remember waking up early to watch Hong Kong Super Sixes in 2010. Even if Australia hit all the balls of the last over for maximum (maximum was 8), Pakistan would have still won. Imran Nazir started bowling wides and no balls and also conceding maximums. Shoaib Malik was the captain. Pakistan lost.

Shoaib Malik was being investigated by the ICC and that was he reason he was not part of the 2011 World Cup squad. However, it's very very hard to find proof. These bookies are very smart.

But the match in which Amir and Asif did spot-fixing, WE WON. That is what ultimately matters.

Shoaib malik was not a fixer and icc cant stop a player from being selected if he is not proven fixer

 

[Rana]

For what Amir did in 2010, he and the fans have paid their price. Nothing can bring back those years we have missed under him. Nothing can justify what he did and why he did it.

However, once you have moved on…used him to win when it suited you, discarded him when it didn’t….just let him be for his cricket. Cricket only!

Right now, for CRICKET ONLY it made no sense to pick Hassan Ali over him. Leave it to that! Don’t get personal or then don’t cry if the response is personal towards you!

 

[saqib.rai]

Shoaib malik was not a fixer and icc cant stop a player from being selected if he is not proven fixer

That's very convenient. Go google why he wasn't allowed to play in the 2011 World Cup.

See the point is, both Amir and Asif served 5 years. ICC thought 5 years was a fair punishment. End of story.

Now they should be allowed to move ahead in life and not be reminded that they purposely bowled 2 no-balls in a TEST match. Which didn't even change the result of the match.

Amir won you the Champions Trophy on the flattest Oval pitch where Hafeez looked like the second coming of Viv Richards by dismissing Rohit, Shikhar and Virat
but the mental trauma people like you gave him, he was forced to take retirement citing mental health issues.

Have a heart. Have some compassion.
And looking at the state of the country, if you think Amir is the biggest culprit there ever lived, then God help you.

 

[Rana]

Not picking Muhammad Amir when all other pacers were injured….BIG MISTAKE

Not picking Sarfaraz as a back up keeper whilst citing Hasan Ali was preferred due to experience….HYPOCRISY+BIG MISTAKE

Giving undue preference to Nawaz over Imad…SENSELESS+STUPIDITY+SUSPICIOUS

Just 3 basic things that have made absolutely no sense and are infuriating! Don’t force anyone to support this!

 

[Rana]

That's very convenient. Go google why he wasn't allowed to play in the 2011 World Cup.

See the point is, both Amir and Asif served 5 years. ICC thought 5 years was a fair punishment. End of story.

Now they should be allowed to move ahead in life and not be reminded that they purposely bowled 2 no-balls in a TEST match. Which didn't even change the result of the match.

Amir won you the Champions Trophy on the flattest Oval pitch where Hafeez looked like the second coming of Viv Richards by dismissing Rohit, Shikhar and Virat
but the mental trauma people like you gave him, he was forced to take retirement citing mental health issues.

Have a heart. Have some compassion.
And looking at the state of the country, if you think Amir is the biggest culprit there ever lived, then God help you.

Yeah and he will also conveniently forget how Shoaib Malik once suggested in a post match interview for Sialkot Stallions

I guess they are all innocent if they are never caught

 

[Major]

The match in which Amir and Asif bowled the no-balls, Pakistan WON that match. That is what ultimately matters.

Credibility, credibility kar rahe hoo. Where does this credibility go when sifarshis are made part of the team and even made captain? And as a

How many people talked about that win? Where was any discussion about that win on any forum or tv channel?

No one cared. Everyone wnted Pakistan to be banned, It was the most insulting win ever. TO even cared or remembers it
The whole creadibility of that match was destroyed, it seems like you dont understand the concept of creadibility of a match.

It was shameful day for the whole nation

 

[Major]

And plus. BOTH SERVED THEIR 5 YEAR BAN

IF it was such grave an offence, why didn't the ICC ban them for life?

bro, there is no point arguing, you were wrong about the fact. Pakistan even lost the match that they spot fixed. so plz

 

[Major]

That's very convenient. Go google why he wasn't allowed to play in the 2011 World Cup.

See the point is, both Amir and Asif served 5 years. ICC thought 5 years was a fair punishment. End of story.

Now they should be allowed to move ahead in life and not be reminded that they purposely bowled 2 no-balls in a TEST match. Which didn't even change the result of the match.

Amir won you the Champions Trophy on the flattest Oval pitch where Hafeez looked like the second coming of Viv Richards by dismissing Rohit, Shikhar and Virat
but the mental trauma people like you gave him, he was forced to take retirement citing mental health issues.

Have a heart. Have some compassion.
And looking at the state of the country, if you think Amir is the biggest culprit there ever lived, then God help you.

plz stop making stuff up just by reading a facebook post. Share a source or dont make up stuff here thanks.

 

[Rana]

“hey guys we have selected a team to represent our nation in the World Cup.

I beg, beg, beg you to support them”


Why does anyone have to be told to support the team this time??

 

[Major]

I remember those times to and I was as well felt a great deal of shame. However the past is the past and all three did their time, apologised and where legally allowed to represent Pakistan- end of story

Now for the last three years I have felt that same humiliation multiple times when watching Pakistan consistently make fools out of themselves- whether it is losing to India by 220 runs, chocking as Asia Cup final, Wade's 3 sixes to Shaheen, losing 3-0 to England D, losing 3-0 at home, losing the 22WC final etc etc- while jesters like Rizwan and Babar laugh on the field.

The guys who fixed may have done embarrassed us once however each of them have the skill and ability - especially Amir and Sharjeel- to retribuite for their sins and make our country proud. The guys we have currently playing now may not be match fixers however they are a bunch of softies who will continue to disappoint, act like clowns and block the path for any new talent to come into the team.

So yes I will take the fixers over the current lot any day

In cricket there is this one line, that one line that you should not cross. That is fixing.

Countries also have laws and in the country's law (the constitution), that one line is being a traitor. If you end up comittitng treason you get jailed for life or killed in some countries. Its the one law you cannot break no matter what.

In Cricket, that one line that you cannot cross is fixing. Infact, in sports, fixing is the one law that cannot be crossed. If the trio did their time, they did not do any ehsan. They were banned for the crime they themselves committed. They were allowed back as professional cricketers, no where does it say they have to be allowed back into Pakistan team....

They crossed that one line, which was corruption, and while asif and butt were rightly disposed off, Amir too was eventually disposed off aswell when he showed his true color.

A game lost is ok and can be bared. But when a games creadibility is made to be questioned thans when the whole nation is ashamed.


Pakistan never won a world cup after 1992, in every world cup after that we lost, are you gonna say we got humilated? No, its part of the game, but if they players fixed than that would be humilation.

Skill doesnt matter, once you sold out your country, stay out.

Playing for Pakistan is a privledge not somebody's right.

 

[saqib.rai]

plz stop making stuff up just by reading a facebook post. Share a source or dont make up stuff here thanks.

I watched the Hong Kong Super Sixes match live by waking up early morning.

But its pointless arguing. In this country, Imran Khan is in jail for legally selling a WATCH but Zardari and Shahbaz are free. Just because it can't be PROVED that Zardari is corrupt lol

Yeah believe that as well. Zardari is a good man, right? If he is so corrupt as people like me say he is, why isn't he in jail??? Use this argument

 

[Rana]

In cricket there is this one line, that one line that you should not cross. That is fixing.

Countries also have laws and in the country's law (the constitution), that one line is being a traitor. If you end up comittitng treason you get jailed for life or killed in some countries. Its the one law you cannot break no matter what.

In Cricket, that one line that you cannot cross is fixing. Infact, in sports, fixing is the one law that cannot be crossed. If the trio did their time, they did not do any ehsan. They were banned for the crime they themselves committed. They were allowed back as professional cricketers, no where does it say they have to be allowed back into Pakistan team....

They crossed that one line, which was corruption, and while asif and butt were rightly disposed off, Amir too was eventually disposed off aswell when he showed his true color.

A game lost is ok and can be bared. But when a games creadibility is made to be questioned thans when the whole nation is ashamed.


Pakistan never won a world cup after 1992, in every world cup after that we lost, are you gonna say we got humilated? No, its part of the game, but if they players fixed than that would be humilation.

Skill doesnt matter, once you sold out your country, stay out.

Playing for Pakistan is a privledge not somebody's right.

How is playing for Pakistan a privilege now?!

Being Babar’s friend is a privilege, and that is the one that will enable you to play Pakistan.

This isn’t the national team! It hasn’t been for ages!

 

[Rana]

plz stop making stuff up just by reading a facebook post. Share a source or dont make up stuff here thanks.

Shoaib Malik given one-Test ban

Shoaib Malik has been given a one-Test ban after he admitted deliberately losing adomestic Twenty20 match

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[saqib.rai]

In cricket there is this one line, that one line that you should not cross. That is fixing.

Countries also have laws and in the country's law (the constitution), that one line is being a traitor. If you end up comittitng treason you get jailed for life or killed in some countries. Its the one law you cannot break no matter what.

In Cricket, that one line that you cannot cross is fixing. Infact, in sports, fixing is the one law that cannot be crossed. If the trio did their time, they did not do any ehsan. They were banned for the crime they themselves committed. They were allowed back as professional cricketers, no where does it say they have to be allowed back into Pakistan team....

They crossed that one line, which was corruption, and while asif and butt were rightly disposed off, Amir too was eventually disposed off aswell when he showed his true color.

A game lost is ok and can be bared. But when a games creadibility is made to be questioned thans when the whole nation is ashamed.


Pakistan never won a world cup after 1992, in every world cup after that we lost, are you gonna say we got humilated? No, its part of the game, but if they players fixed than that would be humilation.

Skill doesnt matter, once you sold out your country, stay

In cricket there is this one line, that one line that you should not cross. That is fixing.

Countries also have laws and in the country's law (the constitution), that one line is being a traitor. If you end up comittitng treason you get jailed for life or killed in some countries. Its the one law you cannot break no matter what.

In Cricket, that one line that you cannot cross is fixing. Infact, in sports, fixing is the one law that cannot be crossed. If the trio did their time, they did not do any ehsan. They were banned for the crime they themselves committed. They were allowed back as professional cricketers, no where does it say they have to be allowed back into Pakistan team....

They crossed that one line, which was corruption, and while asif and butt were rightly disposed off, Amir too was eventually disposed off aswell when he showed his true color.

A game lost is ok and can be bared. But when a games creadibility is made to be questioned thans when the whole nation is ashamed.


Pakistan never won a world cup after 1992, in every world cup after that we lost, are you gonna say we got humilated? No, its part of the game, but if they players fixed than that would be humilation.

Skill doesnt matter, once you sold out your country, stay out.

Playing for Pakistan is a privledge not somebody's right.

You have your ill-informed opinion. I have my opinion.

End of the day, he has served his punishment. Move on. ICC thought 5 years was the right punishment, who am I or you to say no it should have been a life ban.

If it was match fixing, he would have been banned for life. But it wasn't MATCH FIXING.

I am out of here

 

[Major]

Shoaib Malik given one-Test ban

Shoaib Malik has been given a one-Test ban after he admitted deliberately losing adomestic Twenty20 match

www.espncricinfo.com

so you came up with a lie spread it, and when i asked you to provide a source you provided a source to something that is not in context with what you said.

You said he was under investigation by ICC and thats why he didnt get World Cup 2011 selection.

The source that you shared (which you didnt read) is from 2005. THis was a match that Malik lost on(Sialkot Captain) purpose to make sure the Lahore Eagles dont qualiffy as Lahore was a strong team. This is just like how Pakistan lost the game against Australia in 2009 champions trophy to make sure India got knocked out.

Plz provide source about the world cup 2011 where you said malik wasnt selected for fixing. If you dont provide source than admit you lied.

 

[Major]

I watched the Hong Kong Super Sixes match live by waking up early morning.

But its pointless arguing. In this country, Imran Khan is in jail for legally selling a WATCH but Zardari and Shahbaz are free. Just because it can't be PROVED that Zardari is corrupt lol

Yeah believe that as well. Zardari is a good man, right? If he is so corrupt as people like me say he is, why isn't he in jail??? Use this argument

Hong Kong sixes? Lol that final was 8 balls over and the ground is a small ground with 20-30 meter boundaries. Offcourse in that anyone can hit runs.

 

[Rana]

so you came up with a lie spread it, and when i asked you to provide a source you provided a source to something that is not in context with what you said.

You said he was under investigation by ICC and thats why he didnt get World Cup 2011 selection.

The source that you shared (which you didnt read) is from 2005. THis was a match that Malik lost on(Sialkot Captain) purpose to make sure the Lahore Eagles dont qualiffy as Lahore was a strong team. This is just like how Pakistan lost the game against Australia in 2009 champions trophy to make sure India got knocked out.

Plz provide source about the world cup 2011 where you said malik wasnt selected for fixing. If you dont provide source than admit you lied.

What are you even on about? Why are you shifting goalposts now that your theory about him being chaste because he hasn’t been proven has gone out the window?

I’ll tell you why. Because you war against dishonesty is based on your own personal dishonesty. Nothing good will come out of it!

 

[Major]

How is playing for Pakistan a privilege now?!

Being Babar’s friend is a privilege, and that is the one that will enable you to play Pakistan.

This isn’t the national team! It hasn’t been for ages!

Playing for Pakistan is a Privilege, Not a Right.

 

[Major]

@saqib.rai i am still waiting for you to share a link on the so called icc not allowed malik to play the 2011 world cup due to fixing. plz share it or admit you lied

 

[Rana]

Playing for Pakistan is a Privilege, Not a Right.

And that privilege is bestowed on how well you praise Babar.

Playing for Babar is a privelege and and indirectly you get to play for Pakistan

 

[Rana]

“Support Pakistan now please

Also abuse everyone who represented Pakistan in the past”

 

[saqib.rai]

Hong Kong sixes? Lol that final was 8 balls over and the ground is a small ground with 20-30 meter boundaries. Offcourse in that anyone can hit runs.

Yeah Pakistan would have won if Imran Nazir had bowled legal deliveries. Even if all the balls had cleared the ground.

But yeah, cannot be proved. The only culprit in this corrupt country is Amir- who was 18 when he bowled a no-ball

 

[Major]

Yeah Pakistan would have won if Imran Nazir had bowled legal deliveries. Even if all the balls had cleared the ground.

But yeah, cannot be proved. The only culprit in this corrupt country is Amir- who was 18 when he bowled a no-ball

you do know that nazir is not a bowler? and had to bowl as they were a bowler short due to an injury?

fixing can always be proved cause money leaves a trail.

Amir, Asif and Butt are corrupt, and they served jail time aswell, hence they were criminals.

 

[saqib.rai]

@saqib.rai i am still waiting for you to share a link on the so called icc not allowed malik to play the 2011 world cup due to fixing. plz share it or admit you lied

Integrity committee didn't give him clearance

+++
04-Jan-2011
Cricinfo

Shoaib Malik left out of World Cup probables

Pakistan have left out experienced allrounder and former captain Shoaib Malik from the list of 30 probables for the 2011 World Cup.

Pakistan have left out experienced allrounder and former captain Shoaib Malik from the list of 30 probables for the 2011 World Cup. Malik had been under the scanner of the PCB's integrity committee and ultimately appears to have failed to gain clearance for selection. Wicket-keeper Kamran Akmal, over whom there has been as much speculation, has, however, been selected.

The pair, alongside legspinner Danish Kaneria, have been frozen out of recent Pakistan squads. The trio have not participated for Pakistan in any format since the summer tour to England; Kaneria was part of the Test squad for the South Africa series in the UAE but was prevented from travelling by the board at the very last minute. Though not an ODI regular, he also doesn't find a place in the 30.

The PCB hasn't said so publicly but the trio have been under suspicion in the aftermath of the spot-fixing scandal that has rocked Pakistan's cricket. Akmal was the subject of an ACSU notice earlier this year but has since asked for and received a written clearance from the ICC. Kaneria's name featured in a separate spot-fixing scandal at Essex county. Malik has not been linked with any specific incident though he features regularly in the fevered speculation and gossip of Pakistan's cricket structure.

As a result, over the last few weeks the players have appeared three times before the PCB's integrity committee and handed in various financial documents and statements. They last appeared before the committee last Thursday. The lack of clarity over Akmal and Malik in particular had forced the PCB to ask the ICC for more time in naming their probables. The world body extended the deadline for Pakistan from December 19 to January 5.

Elsewhere there is little genuine surprise. Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir, provisionally suspended for their alleged role in the Lord's spot-fixing scandal, were never in the running for the squad. Mohammad Yousuf, the veteran batsman recently discarded from Pakistan's Test side, is in the running for a middle-order spot. There will be quibbling over the axing of Fawad Alam, who averages nearly 38 in the limited opportunities he gets, but at least one member of the selection committee has been against his inclusion as a matter of policy. Nasir Jamshed, the left-handed opener, is also included, in place of Imran Farhat.

+++

 

[Savak]

Shoaib Malik was asked to explain the source of a 90,000 pound deposit in one of his bank accounts in the UK and he was unable to provide a satisfactory answer to the PCB with regards to where the money came from? How did he earn it and what did he do with the money?

It took him a year to come with a total list of documents which ultimately satisfied the PCB.

 

[saqib.rai]

you do know that nazir is not a bowler? and had to bowl as they were a bowler short due to an injury?

fixing can always be proved cause money leaves a trail.

Amir, Asif and Butt are corrupt, and they served jail time aswell, hence they were criminals.

Money leaves a trail??

in this country, you have fake bank accounts of street vendors with billions of ruppees. Knock some sense into your head please

 

[saqib.rai]

Read this. And see how Shoaib Malik and Imran Nazir threw the match away

Super Sixes final loss reason for Malik's exclusion?
Published on Sat, Dec 4, 2010, 03:51 AM

Former Pakistan captain Shoaib Malik being ignored for the New Zealand tour could be a result of the team's unlikely loss in the Super Sixes Tournament final in Hong Kong under his captaincy last month. Sources said Malik, who was ignored by the selectors on Tuesday for the New Zealand tour despite his terrific form in domestic cricket, may have been sidelined because of the Hong Kong tournament. "Malik was captain and in the final opponents Australia required 48 runs in the final over to win the match. Imran Nazir, a part time bowler, was given the ball and incredibly even in the super sixes format he conceded 48 runs bowling a number of wides and no-balls in the decisive over," one source said. He said the final over had raised eyebrows in the Pakistan Cricket Board and given Malik's disciplinary record, the selectors decided to play it safe. "If a player has scored three big hundreds in succession in domestic cricket he is always a serious contender but in Malik's case his ouster may also be linked to non-cricketing reasons," the source said. Malik himself told the media that he was extremely disappointed at not making the team. "What more do I have to do to prove myself. I have scored nearly 580 runs in five innings with three centuries and I have taken 14 wickets for PIA in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy and if this not enough to win me a place back in the team I don't know what is," Malik said. "If the selectors are not considering me when I am in prime form then I think I am within my right to at least ask them to tell me on what grounds I have not been picked in the touring squad," Malik said.

Cricbuzz

 

[Savak]

How the hell can you respond when asked who deposited 90,000 pounds in your bank account "I don't know who deposited the money, i don't know where the money came from?". No wonder given the 2010-2011 environment, the PCB decided to stay clear of him.

Lol it took him 7 months to come up with a very simple explanation?

 

[Major]

Hong Kong Cricket sixes final is bowled with 8 balls per over not 6. Imran Nazir was a part timer. Second, the cricbuzz article has a QUESTION MARK. In journalism, question mark is used when journalist are trying to speculate. There was never any proof Malik was involved in corruption.

According to the link you shared PCB were interested in from where Malik was getting his money. The article also says, "Malik has not been linked with any specific incident"

ICC never said to PCB you cannot play malik, PCB itself was looking at the financials, ICC was just asking the board to name squad before the deadline.

So the question still stands, where is did it says that Malik was involved in corruption and ICC asked PCB to not select him.

 

[Major]

Money leaves a trail??

in this country, you have fake bank accounts of street vendors with billions of ruppees. Knock some sense into your head please

you yourself just admitted money leaves a trail.

malik provided a source of his money

 

[saqib.rai]

@Major ki halaat

Hong Kong Cricket sixes final is bowled with 8 balls per over not 6. Imran Nazir was a part timer. Second, the cricbuzz article has a QUESTION MARK. In journalism, question mark is used when journalist are trying to speculate. There was never any proof Malik was involved in corruption.

According to the link you shared PCB were interested in from where Malik was getting his money. The article also says, "Malik has not been linked with any specific incident"

ICC never said to PCB you cannot play malik, PCB itself was looking at the financials, ICC was just asking the board to name squad before the deadline.

So the question still stands, where is did it says that Malik was involved in corruption and ICC asked PCB to not select him.

Bro I just posted the first google search article

However, Savak did a bit more digging. Mind answering him?

 

[Major]

Yeah Pakistan would have won if Imran Nazir had bowled legal deliveries. Even if all the balls had cleared the ground.

But yeah, cannot be proved. The only culprit in this corrupt country is Amir- who was 18 when he bowled a no-ball

6 times 8 is how much? 48 was required. I think you still have difficulty comprehending that HK sixes final over is of 8 deliveries. a wide is of 2 runs.

 

[Major]

@Major ki halaat

Bro I just posted the first google search article

However, Savak did a bit more digging. Mind answering him?

you came up with accusation, you still have not proved how malik is corrupt.

Amir was caught in the action and his bookie who was making him money got him caught.

 

[saqib.rai]

you yourself just admitted money leaves a trail.

malik provided a source of his money

If a bookie transfers the money to a bank account of my relative, how is this 'money leaving a trail' ?

 

[saqib.rai]

6 times 8 is how much? 48 was required. I think you still have difficulty comprehending that HK sixes final over is of 8 deliveries. a wide is of 2 runs.

Cmon now. You want me to believe this match was not corrupted? Bro stop embarrassing yourself

 

[saqib.rai]

Cmon now. You want me to believe this match was not corrupted? Bro stop embarrassing yourself

48 required. In 8 balls

couldn't even bowl ONE BALL that didn't go over the ropes

 

[Major]

If a bookie transfers the money to a bank account of my relative, how is this 'money leaving a trail' ?

lol. i dont know if i should answer such basic questions.....

That digital transaction is a trail. Any money transferred from one account to another account is itself a trail, as you cannot fake a bank transaction.

Thus, if a bookie deposits money in your account, that is a digital trail that was left behind and you need. In the real world you cannot have people just depositing money unless you sold an asset or provided a service for which you need a receipt. Even the salary you get, there needs to be a pay slip.

To hide the money trail, people prefer cash. Fixing is usually done on cash. Restaurant businesses do this fraud quite commonly, especially in UK where they take cash over card payment and not submit that cash in the til and keep it in the pocket so that the til doesnt record the transaction.

If Malik had money in his account and ended up showing its proof, than that doesnt make him a fixer

 

[Major]

48 required. In 8 balls

couldn't even bowl ONE BALL that didn't go over the ropes

because imran nazir is not a bowler, thats why. Plus the ground is not huge, its a small park

 

[saqib.rai]

because imran nazir is not a bowler, thats why. Plus the ground is not huge, its a small park

And Zardari is not corrupt

And Pakistan has won all wars against India

And the current team is not selected based on friendship with Babar

And the earth is flat

 

[Major]

And Zardari is not corrupt

And Pakistan has won all wars against India

And the current team is not selected based on friendship with Babar

And the earth is flat

you are changing topics now.

 

[shah9425]

Thats because you were very young or probably did not watch cricket back in 2010.

Many of the posters around here in 2010 remember clearly the embarrassment that Pakistan had to face.

First of all, let me remind you that when the 2010 England series squad was announced, many people said this was the worst ever squad announced. Pakistan under Salman Butt was soo terrible as a batting unit that they were getting out for less than 200 scores. Pakistan was not even able to bat for a full day, i think it once only once in 8 innings that they somehow manage to bat the whole day.
Now when this was happening, yes there was criticism, but there was no one said this that Pakistan should be banned or not be allowed to tour to England etc. It was accepted that ok bad performances is part of the game.

Few weeks later, when Amir, Asif and Salman Butt were caught fixing around, a whole havoc broke. The other day one poster @saqib.rai was saying that ohh there is a big difference between match fixing and spot fixing. No there isnt. A person can match fix a game in favor of their own team winning, that would still be a fixing. The issue with fixing (whether match or spot), is that once it take places, it brings the whole credibility of the game in doubt. Credibility matters. There is a thread on india vs sri lanka game where many indian posters were not happy, and the reason was they did not like that the creadibility of the game was in doubt, because it brings shame for the whole nation.

While Pakistanis are ok with insulting their nation and doubting its credibility, our so called Pakistani fans dont care and are so used to insulting their own country and its representatives.

Anyways, when the spot fixing event took place, and Amir, Asif and Butt were caught with their pants down, there were calls from prominent cricketers that Pakistan cricket should be banned. Indian experts were calling out for our banning. Insults were being thrown, players like Jonathan Trott was picking up fights and insulting us aswell.

I as a fan used to wake up every day early in the morning to watch the first session. Now looking back i feel so stupid, because Amir had ruined tha credibility by trying to make extra bucks for bowling no balls on purpose. It brings a doubt for me that the game i woke up early to watch, or some crazy fan that took off from work or school, finds out that the games whole credibility was in doubt and it could be that they were playing to lose.

So before coming here and saying like a child that, "Oh i would take match fixers over honest players that end up losing", remember those dark days. When such an event God forbids happens again, than you would know the shame it brings. How Indian fans and experts will take that opportunity to insult and ask for banning of Pakistan cricket. Even New Zealand beer companies were using us in their advertisements. Thats how embarrassing spot fixing and match fixing is.

This is why i was very unhappy with @Markhor when he wanted amir to be selected. He was there. He saw what happened the day the NOTW report came out. I will never forget that night.

Beautifully written post

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Let's show our love and support for Pak cricket team for the world cup 2023.
Wishing Pak to go all the way this time!

 

[msb314]

Yeah and he will also conveniently forget how Shoaib Malik once suggested in a post match interview for Sialkot Stallions

I guess they are all innocent if they are never caught

That’s different though - SM deliberately underperformed whilst playing for Sialkot Stallions to protest against an umpiring decision in the previous match -not for some monetary benefit..

 

[Cricket Warrior]

It is true that our team requires our support but it is equally true that they need a better combination to get the confidence that they can win this tournament and trust me with that sort of strength we are not going anywhere.

 

[gazza619]

We need a top order who can hit sixes. Fakhar has been asked to play against his natural game and the only other batters who are half decent in hitting sixes are not even in the squad (M Haris & Saim Ayub).

Timid mindset.

 

[mominsaigol]

We need a top order who can hit sixes. Fakhar has been asked to play against his natural game and the only other batters who are half decent in hitting sixes are not even in the squad (M Haris & Saim Ayub).

Timid mindset.

Fakhar isn't bad per day. When he was in form, he would start off slow but still faster then imam, then he would up the ante to 150+ SR. Something no other batsmen in the squad can do atm, besides chacha and maybe saud(Although he was bashing part timers in the warm up)

Imam, Rizwan, Babar these guys are perpetually stuck at a single strike rate. Never adjusting according to the situation.