Jasprit Bumrah vs Travis Head, Who is the bigger impact player in the realm of cricket?

[mominsaigol]

This might seem like a weird comparison thread, as one is a bowler and the other is a batsmen however I find them both to be very similar.

Both India and Australia are very strong units however it's very evident that without Bumrah, The Indian bowling lineup is atleast 50 to 60% weaker as a whole.

In 2024 wc, India was heavily dependant on bumrah's magic to get them out of rut and eventually win the cup as a whole. Infact India typically loses big events if Bumrah has an off day with the ball.

Similarly Travis Head seems to be Bumrah's equivalent for Australia. Without Travis Head, Australia's batting line up is atleast 50% weaker then it should be. While Australia can hold its own in tests. In odi and t20 Travis is a must.

Irrespective of opinions on team strength, one thing is clear both Travis and bumrah are their teams respective all format X factors.

So the main question is: Who is more impactful and who would you prefer to have in your unit?

 

[mominsaigol]

Again the main discussion is who's the better X factor.

Also Indian posters, don't troll. Or come in waves or gangs. Intelligent posters only

 

[jnaveen1980]

I would pick Rizwan over both. He is like gladiator.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think India is more dependent on Bumrah than Australia is dependent on Head.

Without Bumrah, India is an undisputed mid-tier team.

Without Head, Australia is still a top-tier team.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Tbh, Bumrah only fear one batter and everybody who he is... Hint it's evident from Bumrah's special celebration too

 

[Devadwal]

Tbh, Bumrah only fear one batter and everybody who he is... Hint it's evident from Bumrah's special celebration too

Jasprit Bumrah ‘one of the greatest fast bowlers ever’: Travis Head

‘It’s going to be nice to look back at your career and tell the grandkids that you faced him, - Head

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Jasprit Bumrah ‘one of the greatest fast bowlers ever’: Travis Head

‘It’s going to be nice to look back at your career and tell the grandkids that you faced him, - Head

Bumrah is great but Travis never seems to be at unease against him.

 

[RexRex]

Jasprit Bumrah ‘one of the greatest fast bowlers ever’: Travis Head

‘It’s going to be nice to look back at your career and tell the grandkids that you faced him, - Head

That is some cringey lure for Bumrah in the middle of a series. Have some shame, Travis.

 

[Devadwal]

Bumrah is great but Travis never seems to be at unease against him.

Travis head test average against Bumrah is 22 .

Odi average 39 ( Only face twice and Bumrah take his wicket once)

T20 average - 25

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Travis Head has an upper hand in pressure handling so i will give a bit of edge to Travis Head

 

[jnaveen1980]

Tilkaratne Dilshan was also an "impact player" briefly lol Just don't compare people going through good patch at the right time with ATG guys. This is the third series Bumrah and Head face off in Australia. He has not even scored a 1000 runs in a calendar year. He has to give a big thank you to Rohit sharma for his contributions against India. His average against india significantly drops whenever the Indian captain is not Rohit sharma.

Whenever India's captain is ROhit sharma his average is 71 across the formats
Whenever India's captain is someone else Rahane or Bumrah or Kohli his average is 31 across the formats

So you have to add a clause "Provide Rohit sharma is the captain"

 

[mominsaigol]

@Devadwal ofcourse you have an issue with this thread smh.

 

[mominsaigol]

Travis Head turned bumrah into a spring chicken in his own den in wc 2023 final.

Come of it mate. One of the greatest batsman to ever grace this game and easily top 5 greatest all format players of all time.

Travis head test average against Bumrah is 22 .

Odi average 39 ( Only face twice and Bumrah take his wicket once)

T20 average - 25

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Travis Head turned bumrah into a spring chicken in his own den in wc 2023 final.

Come of it mate. One of the greatest batsman to ever grace this game and easily top 5 greatest all format players of all time.

Ha if you knew all this and its an open and shut case then what's the need of this thread?

Head's only comparison is Don Bradman even he isn't there coz he didn't perform in two back to back ICC Finals.

 

[kron]

Travis head is goat. No doubt.

Bumrah also is goat level.

Travis home is aus so bumrah will find it harder but it will be a good battle.

 

[Raja111]

Travis Head turned bumrah into a spring chicken in his own den in wc 2023 final.

Come of it mate. He is the pyo of pyo's. One of the greatest batsman to ever grace this game and easily top 5 greatest all format players of all time.

Tuned him into a spring chicken? Are you serious? The World Cup final pitch was so skewed that, apart from one game prior to the final, every match played there was won by the chasing team. The pitch quickens under lights with dew, turning into a batting paradise. In the league match on the same pitch, New Zealand chased down 283 against England in just 35 overs with the loss of only one wicket without even trying much that’s how skewed it was. Bowlers had no chance under those conditions. Yet, Bumrah still managed 2 for 40 in 10 overs with no support from the other bowlers otherwise, he could have done even more damage. You saw a couple of cover drives and glanced at the scorecard and decided to claim he was turned into a spring chicken? Ridiculous.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Comparing Head with Bumrah is crazy. I think it makes no sense actually.

Batter vs bowler can never be justified, no matter what logic you bring,

 

[mominsaigol]

@Devadwal @Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

Jee running away now that Travis head is owning India? Marsh is also smacking Bumrah

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

@Devadwal @Rajdeep @jeeteshssaxena

Jee running away now that Travis head is owning India? Marsh is also smacking Bumrah

I am right here, lets see if Head can take his average past Sidhu with this knock.

 

[mominsaigol]

I am right here, lets see if Head can take his average past Sidhu with this knock.

Keep sticking to that avg argument but shove it aside when people point that Williamson of all people has a better test avg then Sachin .

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Keep sticking to that avg argument but shove it aside when people point that Williamson of all people has a better test avg then Sachin .

He doesn’t have better away averages than Sachin, and has a poor record against SEIA countries.

Head on the other hand has been a failure away from home, Sidhu was better.

 

[mominsaigol]

He doesn’t have better away averages than Sachin, and has a poor record against SEIA countries.

Head on the other hand has been a failure away from home, Sidhu was better.

My oh my, must be difficult to say such and such while watching the current test match

 

[atreus]

He doesn’t have better away averages than Sachin, and has a poor record against SEIA countries.

Head on the other hand has been a failure away from home, Sidhu was better.

surely you don't actually mean that.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Head seem to have higher peaks of impact. Bumrah on the other hand is very consistent

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

surely you don't actually mean that.

I definitely mean that, Sidhu was a better test batsman, you can show me stats and facts and then we can debate about it.

 

[Fanboy375]

Name a bowler who is as useful as Bumrah for India in the last 3 decades.It is debatable if Head is rival to Warner in batting for Australia.

 

[atreus]

I definitely mean that, Sidhu was a better test batsman, you can show me stats and facts and then we can debate about it.

Sidhu couldn't handle movement at all though while Trav can handle spin, Trav's a level above against pace bowling.

 

[Hyder]

Head has impacted bigger matches mote than any player in recent 2 3 years. Bumrah won ind t20 final but head has won them a wc and a test championship.
Lets see who performs in champions trophy.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Travis Head turned bumrah into a spring chicken in his own den in wc 2023 final.

Come of it mate. One of the greatest batsman to ever grace this game and easily top 5 greatest all format players of all time.

Top 5 all format? He averages 30s in T20I, not even top 10 in the format.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

All format Head averages 43 in Tests and 33 in T20. No wonder same posters with agenda against Rizwan call him all format top 5 ever. Shame.

 

[jnaveen1980]

No batsman can be better than a bowler. Bowlers always are the match winners. Batsmen are just support cast members. They were chasing a well below par total under lights at the Ahmedabad. Real credit to choking batting by KL Rahul and Kohli. That was a six hitting ground under lights. He just made the msot of it after Bumrah's spell.

 

[mominsaigol]

Top 5 all format? He averages 30s in T20I, not even top 10 in the format.

You think Travis Head isn't even top 10 in t20 format?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Top 5 all format? He averages 30s in T20I, not even top 10 in the format.

but his SR makes him more valueable compered to so called table toppers.

 

[mominsaigol]

All format Head averages 43 in Tests and 33 in T20. No wonder same posters with agenda against Rizwan call him all format top 5 ever. Shame.

So? How many all format legends are their batting wise?

1) Gayle
2) Warner
3) KP
4) Kohli
5) Rohit?

And who else?

Maybe you'll find one or 2 more but Travis would still be top 10 All time?

And most all format guns have averaged 50+ in all formats.

Kohli is regarded as India's greatest all format player ever and he averages 47 in test cricket?

Warner is regarded as one of the best openers to ever play for aus along with gilly and Hayden and he has an avg of 44 in test, 45 in odi and 30 something in t20?

All format players never average 50 in all formats? It doesn't happen?

Infact i haven't heard of a single all format all time great who's averaged 50 in tests lol.

Even Sachin Tendulkar wasn't an all format great since he avoided t20 like the plague.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Head would not even make the current Pakistan T20 team as an opener. Enough said.

 

[mominsaigol]

Head would not even make the current Pakistan T20 team as an opener. Enough said.

That both me and @Rana agree on. Genuinely we do. Head would be batting at no 4 .

No one can replace Rizwan the t20 champ.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Sure long essays and keep tagging Rana in your posts for support. You must be a kid who's posting on comic vines and thinks he's cool by posting long messages that say nothing. As a long time lurker you are consistently the most wrong and vacuous poster @mominsaigol I am glad Rizwan's success burns you on the inside. He will keep burning you with his success and take Pakistan to great heights.

 

[mominsaigol]

Sure long essays and keep tagging Rana in your posts for support. You must be a kid who's posting on comic vines and thinks he's cool by posting long messages that say nothing. As a long time lurker you are consistently the most wrong and vacuous poster @mominsaigol I am glad Rizwan's success burns you on the inside. He will keep burning you with his success and take Pakistan to great heights.

You're not a long time lurker lol. You're an alt account . Very obvious.

He will keep burning you with his success and take Pakistan to great heights.

Jee jee bilkul. Pakistan got whitewashed by aus in t20, and will probs get whitewashed by sa C team in the next 2 games. But sure he's taking Pakistan into places we can't even imagine .

You must be a kid who's posting on comic vines and thinks he's cool by posting long messages that say nothing

People still use comicvine? I thought reddit replaced all comic and movie related communities lol. Last time I visited that site was 2014.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

You're not a long time lurker lol. You're an alt account . Very obvious.

He will keep burning you with his success and take Pakistan to great heights.

Jee jee bilkul. Pakistan got whitewashed by aus in t20, and will probs get whitewashed by sa C team in the next 2 games. But sure he's taking Pakistan into places we can't even imagine .

You must be a kid who's posting on comic vines and thinks he's cool by posting long messages that say nothing

People still use comicvine? I thought reddit replaced all comic and movie related communities lol. Last time I visited that site was 2014.

Alt? Kid don't pretend. With your lingo about classic this and half baked stats and tagging your Rana in every post. I'm here to defend and prove you haters wrong. Rizwan and Babar will keep giving you stomach ache, they just humiliated Australia in Australia. More to come.

 

[mominsaigol]

Alt? Kid don't pretend. With your lingo about classic this and half baked stats and tagging your Rana in every post. I'm here to defend and prove you haters wrong. Rizwan and Babar will keep giving you stomach ache, they just humiliated Australia in Australia. More to come.

I'm here to defend and prove you haters wrong.

You're here to defend me but also prove me wrong? What kind of logic is that .

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

I'm here to defend and prove you haters wrong.

You're here to defend me but also prove me wrong? What kind of logic is that .

Defend Rizwan and Babar and Shaheen from haters and enemies of Pak cricket.

 

[MHN1293]

Travis Head turned bumrah into a spring chicken in his own den in wc 2023 final.

Come of it mate. One of the greatest batsman to ever grace this game and easily top 5 greatest all format players of all time.

Top 5 greatest of all time?? Not even among the top 20 test or odi players of all time. In t20is he has been goat level but small sample size

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Top 5 greatest of all time?? Not even among the top 20 test or odi players of all time. In t20is he has been goat level but small sample size

Head is the most overrated player based on one performance under lights in a win toss win match Gujrat pitch. His overall numbers in all 3 formats are decent at best. Rizwan and Babar are better all format players than him - Babar's 196 vs Cummins and Starc is worth more than Head's whole career.

 

[mominsaigol]

Top 5 greatest of all time?? Not even among the top 20 test or odi players of all time. In t20is he has been goat level but small sample size

Top 5 to top 10 greatest All format players of all time which is what i stated and stand by.

name the top 10 that are better them him?

1) Kohli
2) Kp
3) Gayle
4) Warner

^^ I named 4? Find the rest you can rohit as well of you want although I disagree on rohit being > Travis but whatever don't care so their you now have 5.

Name the other 5?

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Top 5 to top 10 greatest All format players of all time which is what i stated and stand by.

name the top 10 that are better them him?

1) Kohli
2) Kp
3) Gayle
4) Warner

^^ I named 4? Find the rest you can rohit as well of you want although I disagree on rohit being > Travis but whatever don't care so their you now have 5.

Name the other 5?

All format is not just white ball. What has Head done in tests? How many centuries in subcontinent?

Ab de Villiers
Babar
Rizwan
Smith
Williamson
Root

 

[mominsaigol]

All format is not just white ball. What has Head done in tests? How many centuries in subcontinent?

Ab de Villiers
Babar
Rizwan
Smith
Williamson
Root

I asked for all format, it's in the name, odi, t20 and tests.

regardless their isnt any point of having a discussion with you because all of your arguments are non sensical.

Give me all format players > head. I've given you 5. Name the other 5.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

I asked for all format, it's in the name, odi, t20 and tests.

regardless their isnt any point of having a discussion with you because all of your arguments are non sensical.

Give me all format players > head. I've given you 5. Name the other 5.

And what are your arguments other than tagging Rana and adding "classic" to random words from 2009 comicvine to sound impressive?

I just gave you other names in my post. Head has done jack in subcontinent. Babar has scored tons in SENA in tests. What are Heads achievements in tests in subcontinent? I'll wait as you get back up.

 

[mominsaigol]

And what are your arguments other than tagging Rana and adding "classic" to random words from 2009 comicvine to sound impressive?

I just gave you other names in my post. Head has done jack in subcontinent. Babar has scored tons in SENA in tests. What are Heads achievements in tests in subcontinent? I'll wait as you get back up.

Are you saying root, Williamson, Steve Smith, Babar Azam, Rizwan and Ab de villers are better all format players then Travis?

Are these the names you mentioned? .

Thr only one who is actually a good pick on this list is de villers who is way better then Travis in tests and odi in bi laterals but worse then Travis in icc events in odi.

However de villers never cracked the code of t20 cricket, it's the one format he didn't figure out. He under achieved in t20 cricket for his caliber.

As for the rest LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[mominsaigol]

I ask anyone right here and right now, name your top 10 all format players of all time? And your top 10 all format bowlers of all time.

Unless you guys are dishonest people, Travis head and bunrah will be on that list.

And I better not hear any small sample size nonsense.

T20 has been around since 2007, its a format thats been here for nearly 17 years now. Sample size should have developed.