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Josh Hazlewood vs Kagiso Rabada - Who is the better of these two young quicks?

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2 of the best quick bowlers in the world. Who would you say is better?
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Rabada has a higher ceiling as he is younger and quicker and plays on more bowler friendly wickets to boost stats.
 
Hazlewood for me. Very hard to get away with his line and length and accuracy. Absolutely fantastic bowler.

Rabada is a great test bowler too. But he isn't that good in odis I feel.
 
Hazlewood just at the moment but Rabada will overtake him.

Rabada has potential to be a top 10 fast bowler of all time.
 
Very hard as both are very good bowlers. I will probably pick Rabada.
 
I really like Hazlewood, champion bowler in both formats. For some reason, he doesn't get the hype.
 
ATM, it is Josh. No doubt he is a champion bowler. But i think in coming 2 years, Rabada may become better than him.
 
Difficult one, but I think in the long run Rabada will overtake him. Both are potentially ATGs.

Rabada is the closest we have been to the great Caribbean fast bowlers of yesteryears. He just needs to keep fit and everything else will fall in place.
 
Hmmm both have huge potential.

McGrath seemed a plodder in his first few tests- tall but avg pace, no swing, no threat, ok accuracy. But he added dramatically to all of these in his early years.

Rabada seems the more exciting with his searing yorkers but I'll bet Hazlewood takes more test wickets.
 
Hmmm both have huge potential.

McGrath seemed a plodder in his first few tests- tall but avg pace, no swing, no threat, ok accuracy. But he added dramatically to all of these in his early years.

Rabada seems the more exciting with his searing yorkers but I'll bet Hazlewood takes more test wickets.

I think that'll mostly be down to Australia playing more test cricket.
 
I think that'll mostly be down to Australia playing more test cricket.

That may be true. I'll settle for more per test & a similar or at least comparable sample (say 70 vs 90 tests). We could use average and strike rate to settle it.

I've never seen an avg vs strike rate worth comparison though- how would one do it?
 
Josh has a longer track record for good performance, but Rabada has a higher ceiling. If I have pick 1 right now, Josh edges it for me.
 
Huge gulf of class between the two , rabada is a lot superior in every aspect of fast bowling.
 
2 of the best quick bowlers in the world. Who would you say is better?

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Josh at the moment. In future can't tell yet, Rabada looks better potential.
 
Difficult one, but I think in the long run Rabada will overtake him. Both are potentially ATGs.

Rabada is the closest we have been to the great Caribbean fast bowlers of yesteryears. He just needs to keep fit and everything else will fall in place.

yup rabada will overtake him but I don't think any of the fast bowlers of this era(Except Starc) can become ATG's.
 
yup rabada will overtake him but I don't think any of the fast bowlers of this era(Except Starc) can become ATG's.
Rabada has the potential to overtake Steyn.

Starc' prowess is limited to LOI. For that reasonI don't think he'll ever be an ATG, as one of the criterion for being crowned the ATG title is performance in the two primary formats. He lacks the bounce to reach the height that Hazlewood and even Cummins (permitting he remains injury free) will in tests.

To answer the query of the OP currently I would take Hazlewood, for now. Undoubtedly, one of the best going around today. But I do expect Rabada to overtake him.
 
Rabada has the potential to overtake Steyn.

Starc' prowess is limited to LOI. For that reasonI don't think he'll ever be an ATG, as one of the criterion for being crowned the ATG title is performance in the two primary formats. He lacks the bounce to reach the height that Hazlewood and even Cummins (permitting he remains injury free) will in tests.

To answer the query of the OP currently I would take Hazlewood, for now. Undoubtedly, one of the best going around today. But I do expect Rabada to overtake him.

I think Starc will prove you wrong this Ashes. He's just taken a double hat-trick in the Shield with the red ball and has a killer record at home with the pink ball. This will be the summer Starc puts it all together.
 
I think Starc will prove you wrong this Ashes. He's just taken a double hat-trick in the Shield with the red ball and has a killer record at home with the pink ball. This will be the summer Starc puts it all together.
What's stopped him from doing it before? As I pointed out he is by no means a bad test bowler, but he lacks the consistently in the longer format as he doesn't extract as much lift as per say Cummins or Hazlewood. His action is like a cannonpult, allows him to generate a lot of pace but as a consequence a stock test length is impossible to bowl- a length that beats the bat, gets the batsman playing at the ball etc. I feel his test bowling is over reliant on spearing it on the stumps which may work against tailenders but isn't going to get you consistent wickets against actual batsman
 
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Bump! Rabada looks well ahead now.

Hazlewood numbers in this test match are 0-86 and 0-41. He averages 37 in this series compared to Cummins 22.
 
Haz has been a huge disappointment tbh. The Mcgrath reincarnation myth should be debunked..
 
Better comparison should be Cummins vs Rabada (vs Shaheen Afridi :afridi)
 
Would be interesting to see how Rabada goes in SC..
 
Never rated Hazelwood as a first tier bowler. A better version of Morkel perhaps.

Cummins is far more impressive, bowls at pace gets the ball to nip in either direction, phenomenal bowler.
 
Rabada will surpass Hazelwood. High quality bowler.
Rabada is already far ahead, not just of Hazelwood but pretty much every fast bowler at the moment.

Hazelwood:
40 matches, 151 wickets, 27 average, 57 strike rate, 6 5-fers, 0 10 fers

Rabada:
30 matches, 143 wickets, 22 average, 39 strike rate, 9 5-fers, 4 10-fers

He has almost the same amount of wickets from 10 less matches, and is 60 behind Philander despite debuting 5 years after him. There's a reason why the Aussies tried to get him banned :D
 
Gonna say Rabada, his speed means that he can just smoke a batsman, if things click - which they often do. That Yorker to Stokes last summer - after pushing him onto his backfoot for a few balls...
 
I'll admit, I was frightened by the ease with which Rabada generated pace in the first test against India at CT. This was after coming in as a 1st change bowler. And he bowled with only slightly less pace in the last test of a long home summer. His fitness and athleticism is jaw dropping.

He has atleast 8-10 years of peak cricketing years ahead of him. Cannot imagine where he'd end up if South Africa were to play as many tests as England or Australia.
 
Rabada is already far ahead, not just of Hazelwood but pretty much every fast bowler at the moment.

Hazelwood:
40 matches, 151 wickets, 27 average, 57 strike rate, 6 5-fers, 0 10 fers

Rabada:
30 matches, 143 wickets, 22 average, 39 strike rate, 9 5-fers, 4 10-fers

He has almost the same amount of wickets from 10 less matches, and is 60 behind Philander despite debuting 5 years after him. There's a reason why the Aussies tried to get him banned :D

Wow these stats remind me of Steyn and Waqar at similar stage in their respective careers
 
Ask yourself, who'd you prefer to face when batting?

Rabada is far ahead.
 
Rabada is well ahead right now.

Hazlewood hasn't performed as well as he could have. He needs to step it up
 
Rabada is quite better than Hazlewood in Tests, but in ODI's Rabada errs, and not consistent enough. Overall, Rabada has the potential to become one of the best. His stamina and heart are phenomenal.
 
Rabada. Dude's performing like peak Waqar Younis now. Hazlewood has fallen off quite a bit recently. Becoming quite inconsistent like his teammate Starc.
 
Rabada for now is the best fast bowler in tests in the world. So don't think anyone is better than him at the moment.
 
Josh Hazlewood fit and firing for Australian return

Josh Hazlewood's trust in "the Australian way" of aggressive cricket is unwavering as he prepares for an international recall in one of the most intriguing summers in history.

Hazlewood bowled 20 overs to Pat Cummins' 21 as they helped the ACT/NSW Country Comets secure a memorable 95-run win over Western Australia in the Futures League at Chisholm Oval on Thursday.

Now the Australian spearheads have set their sights on a return from injury in the international arena against South Africa in a one-day series, to which the Cape Town ball tampering saga will be an interesting subplot.


The fallout from the Test series earlier this year was the catalyst for change in Australian cricket, but Hazlewood won't be making wholesale changes in a national side taking baby steps into a new era.

"It’s still playing the Australian way with pretty aggressive cricket and it’s just about tinkering with a few things here and there on and off the field," Hazlewood said.

"I think we’ve got a great group moving forward and there are a few spots still open moving forward, so whoever gets those and puts their hands up deserves them, and we’ll have a form team going into the first Test.

"There’s a few that have come in in the UAE and there could well be some [more debuts] in the Australian summer. The bowling is pretty much settled, we know each other’s roles pretty well.

"It’s just about getting those batters in and I’m sure whoever they pick will do a great job."

Pressure is mounting on Australian vice-captain Mitch Marsh and his brother Shaun Marsh after the duo's lean run continued in the Test series against Pakistan.

Glenn Maxwell is waiting in the wings while Matt Renshaw is poised to earn a recall should Usman Khawaja fail to recover in time following his latest injury setback.

But one thing that won't need tinkering with is the bowling attack Australia's greatest off-spinner Nathan Lyon dubs "the best in the world".

While they do boast some of cricket's most imposing quicks and a crafty tweaker surging up the nation's all-time wicket takers list, Hazlewood says Australia have some work to do before earning that distinction.

"There’s a few good attacks out there. South Africa and England in their own environment are very good attacks, and even India in their own environment," Hazlewood said.

"Everyone knows their conditions and bowls to their conditions very well, it’s about performing away from home and really dominating all surfaces.

"Then you can call yourselves the best."

Hazlewood will lock horns with two of those attacks this summer with the Proteas playing a one-day international series followed by a Twenty20, while India will take pride of place in the biggest Tests of the summer.

It makes the leafy surrounds of Chisholm Oval a vital stop on the comeback trail, with Hazlewood and Cummins both confident they are now ready to shoulder heavier workloads in the international arena.

The Comets pulled off what was almost unthinkable when they rolled Western Australia on the final day to secure their second consecutive win following an early declaration from ACT/NSW Country skipper Jay Lenton.
Cummins claimed 1-23 from six overs while Hazlewood notched up 0-14 from five, leaving ACT products Tom Engelbrecht (4-69) and Ben Taylor (3-106) to do the bulk of the damage.

Hazlewood earned high praise from coach Kyle Piper after he carried drinks for two hours in the early stages of the match, shouldering a role that many high-level players may think they are above.

"Obviously I’ll increase the workload as the summer goes on but everything feels in a pretty good place. The back feels really good, now it’s just about playing some cricket," Hazlewood said.

"It’s good to have a good hitout and 20-odd overs each week. This is obviously a pretty good wicket to bat on so it was hard work, but I probably needed it so it was good.

"I reckon the group was really good, some good blokes in there. They play a lot of cricket together, they’re a tight unit, some of them live together. It was a good environment and they’ve won a couple on the trot, hopefully they keep winning and have a good year."

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/cri...-australian-return/ar-BBORxSJ?ocid=spartanntp
 
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Josh Hazlewood admits to nerves ahead of World Cup squad selection

Australia pacer Josh Hazlewood has recovered from a back injury that kept him out of action since January this year but admits he’s nervous ahead of the World Cup selection later this month.

Australia will name their 15-man World Cup squad on April 23. Hazlewood alongside Mitchell Starc recently resumed bowling in the nets while on recovery from separate injuries.

“There’s nerves, as there always is before a team is selected for a big tournament,” Hazlewood was quoted as saying by the Herald Sun on Monday. “There’s probably 20 plus guys who think they’re a really good chance of making it. It’s a good position to be in for Australian cricket.”

He added, “I’ve started bowling, I’m off a couple of steps at the moment, so that will start to ramp up pretty quickly through late April and in to May. “I’ve done a lot of work, rehab wise, running wise, gym wise. Everything should be fine.”

In Hazlewood and Starc’s absence, the likes of Jhye Richardson and Jason Behrendorff have made it to the Australia squad, putting up impressive performances. The 28-year-old is eyeing a second straight appearance at the quadrennial tournament after being part of a successful campaign in 2015 when Australia won a record-extending fifth World Cup title.

There have been reports that with the World Cup a couple of months away, the selectors might not be willing to risk the pacer and instead keep him fit and fresh for the Ashes series in England that follows the mega tournament.

However, Hazlewood, who has 72 wickets in 44 ODIs so far, feels that playing in the World Cup will only add to his preparations for the Ashes.

“To be fit and ready for that first Ashes Test you have to have a lot of bowling under your belt anyway. There can’t be a better spot to do that than in a World Cup. One day cricket, a couple of games a week for five or six weeks is probably perfect prep in terms of body load. Hopefully I’m there and we can hold on to the trophy,” he said.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...to-nerves-ahead-of-world-cup-selection-826142
 
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