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all the ppers who seem to hate junaid for no reason will be proven wron, bowls well with the new ball and also is a good yorker bowler at the death
 
Did you see him in last Champions Trophy in the same country? He was cartered all around.
 
Everyone is gonna do way better than Wahab, that guy will not win us games.
 
Which ICC tournament has Wahab ever won for Pak? Last ICC T20 WC he was smacked all over the place. Rubbish bowler and way past his prime.
 
I'll take him over Wahab. CT is make or break for him. A poor performance could see him discarded for a while.
 
Junaid is no world beater but he is miles ahead of Wahab
 
Junaid Khan is a quality bowler and if he bowls at his best, he'll definitely be one of the best bowlers on show.
 
I was there at the last champions trophy. He looked a bit ordinary tbh because his length was too Much back of a length.

He needs to pitch it up more and move the ball either off the wicket or in the air to be effective, especially if he takes new ball.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Of course.

Wahab and Junaid will destroy India and Sri Lanka.

When will we wake up and move on?
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Move on from a 26 year old bowler who averages 28 in ODIs? People really should have patience and not treat these players like garbage if they have a few tough years. Especially after what Misbah ul Haq did over the last seven years, after he was labelled a failure.
 
Of course.

After losing us the matches, he'll pull out the wickets and take home as a souvenir!
 
As mediocre as he may be, one can always have a few good days. Fans shouldn't write him off.
 
Hope he goes under 7 runs an over in the champions trophy ,not expecting anything better than this.
 
When I first watched him against India in 2012 I think it was he was amazing.. His seam position was second to none and swing and control was perfect.. Not sure why he regressed so much maybe injuries but he has given good performances in the past and had talent so you never know when it might all come back to him..
 
big_gamer007 said:
When I first watched him against India in 2012 I think it was he was amazing.. His seam position was second to none and swing and control was perfect.. Not sure why he regressed so much maybe injuries but he has given good performances in the past and had talent so you never know when it might all come back to him..
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That was a fluke due to cold weather and still air, an extreme weather anomaly.

He cannot swing the ball, can seam the old one. A poor man's Umar Gul. Basically EVERY Pak domestic bowler can do this.
 
Hawkeye said:
Of course.

After losing us the matches, he'll pull out the wickets and take home as a souvenir!
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Ironic that you are correct in identifying the mediocrity of Junaid but fail to realize the same for the likes of Hafeez and Akmals.
 
Bilal7 said:
Move on from a 26 year old bowler who averages 28 in ODIs? People really should have patience and not treat these players like garbage if they have a few tough years. Especially after what Misbah ul Haq did over the last seven years, after he was labelled a failure.
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Really? So we should just include him despite poor performances in domestic because he once owned Kohli? When will we be fair for once? A lot of good guys miss out because our selectors think the same way as you do.

Even Wahab gets a place just because the selectors cannot ignore someone who gave Watson a tough time. They cannot treat him like 'garbage' because of that one performance.
 
He's been a disappointment since his return and will get smashed to all parts in the CT. Not only does he have a questionable action but he's also lost ALOT of pace. He's bowling in the low 130s and barely cracks 135.

Just don't see him being a threat to batsmen.
 
I think he'll do a bit better than last time, and I expect him to outperform Wahab.

Don't think Wahab will keep the trend of performing in ICC tournaments up.
 
I think he will be the bowler batsmen go after... usually when its not swinging, batsmen go after him on the front foot..

Hey atleast Junaid has gotten rid of one complain people had about him, 'he doesn't swing the ball'

Clearly he has shown he can swing it when he's not playing in the UAE or Srilanka (which has been 95% of his career)
 
Too much hate for the guy for no reason. Possibly the best death over bowler in Pak at the moment. Just needs some time in the middle and confidence. He knows how to take wickets. Expecting him to get a few crucial breakthroughs.
 
Junaid bowled really well in the Australian series and it brought memories of the time when Pakistan's bowling attack could actually bowl out a strong team like Australia, we didn't see any of that in England. The bowlers put a lot of pressure on the Australian batsman, including Junaid, but fielding let us down in the 4th ODI and it went all down hill from there.

Don't undermine Junaids bowling credentials, he is a gem of a bowler but currently lacks a lot of rhythm in his bowling. He can swing and seam the ball but judging him on flat pitches where bowlers like Aamer Yamin are the leading wicket takers, will not give him the justice.
 
InshaAllah.
But currently Wahab and maybe even Fahim will get the chance before him
 
I can see him getting wickets but he will leak a lot of runs. The pick of the of the bowlers will be Hasan Ali followed by Amir. All these guys need to pitch it up and look for swing. They're all pretty good at it.

For Junaid Khan, if he wants to be successful, he seriously needs to hit the gym and start looking after himself and his diet. Like a few other posters have mentioned, he looks extremely malnourished and his frame resembles that of a 13 year old skinny boy. With that kind of physique, not only does he pose any psychological danger, but also the fact that his body will not be able to get the best out of his abilities.

Hasan Ali should be an inspiration for him. When he burst onto the scene a few months ago, he had a similar structure and was bowling in the early 130's. Max speed was 135. Now he bowls in the late 140's and early 140's consistently. And that's also given him confidence to fix his line and length. Junaid needs to do the same.

As for Amir, hope he gets to work with Waqar. Waqar knows exactly whats wrong with Amir currently. He's not express anymore but that's still okay, because of his action not being side-on, he isn't even able to extract bounce.
 
its between junaid and fahim for me. Riaz has no place in the team whatsoever. Plus Hasan is better with the old bowl thennew, if Riaz plays he will do awful and that will mean hasan has to bowl up front.
 
Abdullah said:
InshaAllah.
But currently Wahab and maybe even Fahim will get the chance before him
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I disagree on this. 10 overs for a 114 runs vs England in the same grounds CT 2017 is taking place might make Sarfaraz consider other options like Junaid
 
well this discussion could end up being pointless now with the junaid umar akmal feud wouldnt be surprised if pcb sides with akmal
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
what has riaz done since the world cup in odis to merit a place in the squad let alone team ?
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It's the combination and Wahab may be the better addition when u have Hafeez imad Shadab hasan amir.
Wouldn't necessarily need to bowl a full quota and he brings the raw pace to the table and is better at reverse.
Junaid lost games for zalmi in the psl single handed.
We don't necessarily need a new ball bowler when hasan imad amir n even Hafeez can bowl with the new ball
 
Abdullah said:
It's the combination and Wahab may be the better addition when u have Hafeez imad Shadab hasan amir.
Wouldn't necessarily need to bowl a full quota and he brings the raw pace to the table and is better at reverse.
Junaid lost games for zalmi in the psl single handed.
We don't necessarily need a new ball bowler when hasan imad amir n even Hafeez can bowl with the new ball
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Amir lost a game against Islamabad United when he was taken apart by Watson...

Hassan Ali was also taken apart by Dwayne Smith if I'm not wrong...

The difference was Junaid was benched for the mistakes he made while others weren't
 
waleed88 said:
Amir lost a game against Islamabad United when he was taken apart by Watson...

Hassan Ali was also taken apart by Dwayne Smith if I'm not wrong...

The difference was Junaid was benched for the mistakes he made while others weren't
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I think junaids were more memorable.
Anyhow it's worth having a 90 mile an hour bowler in the team who can be used as n when.
Not he is a much better fielder and bat
 
Abdullah said:
It's the combination and Wahab may be the better addition when u have Hafeez imad Shadab hasan amir.
Wouldn't necessarily need to bowl a full quota and he brings the raw pace to the table and is better at reverse.
Junaid lost games for zalmi in the psl single handed.
We don't necessarily need a new ball bowler when hasan imad amir n even Hafeez can bowl with the new ball
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The problem is Hasan is better coming in at first change, he cant do that if riaz plays
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
The problem is Hasan is better coming in at first change, he cant do that if riaz plays
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I would be bowling imad and amir with the new ball if any right handers. He is gold against teams who haven't faced him before.
So it can still work.
And also I think sarfaraz is good when he has lots of different options . He is good at Marshalling them.
And Wahab is different where as junaid/amir is a bit similar
 
Abdullah said:
I would be bowling imad and amir with the new ball if any right handers. He is gold against teams who haven't faced him before.
So it can still work.
And also I think sarfaraz is good when he has lots of different options . He is good at Marshalling them.
And Wahab is different where as junaid/amir is a bit similar
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You can go with Fahim then

There is no point in taking a player who has averaged 57 with the ball for the past 2 years. Take out Zimbabwe and that goes to 64
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Really? So we should just include him despite poor performances in domestic because he once owned Kohli? When will we be fair for once? A lot of good guys miss out because our selectors think the same way as you do.

Even Wahab gets a place just because the selectors cannot ignore someone who gave Watson a tough time. They cannot treat him like 'garbage' because of that one performance.
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Not sure if you've been keeping up with cricket or not but both Junaid and Riaz have done much more since those performances you mentioned. Where are these good guys you speak of? Junaid and Riaz are two of the best we have.
 
Bilal7 said:
Not sure if you've been keeping up with cricket or not but both Junaid and Riaz have done much more since those performances you mentioned. Where are these good guys you speak of? Junaid and Riaz are two of the best we have.
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lol @ Riaz is the best we have. That's the best joke I have heard in some time. Indeed the best guy who leaked runs in favor of the opposition.

I don't know if you have been following Pak domestic and recent developments but new guys like Rumman Raees are ten times better than Riaz in ODI cricket. All Riaz does is run and bowl fast, short in the hope of getting something in return.

I still can not believe you said. It must be sarcasm, right?
 
Bilal7 said:
Not sure if you've been keeping up with cricket or not but both Junaid and Riaz have done much more since those performances you mentioned. Where are these good guys you speak of? Junaid and Riaz are two of the best we have.
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riaz best we have : averages 57 past 2 years
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
lol @ Riaz is the best we have. That's the best joke I have heard in some time. Indeed the best guy who leaked runs in favor of the opposition.

I don't know if you have been following Pak domestic and recent developments but new guys like Rumman Raees are ten times better than Riaz in ODI cricket. All Riaz does is run and bowl fast, short in the hope of getting something in return.

I still can not believe you said. It must be sarcasm, right?
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Rumman Raees has had some hype around him for some time now, bit confused why he hasn't got much chances. Only played one t20 over the whole WI tour. If he had he might have been a serious contender for champions trophy.

Was a massive mistake by our part. We should have given him both ODI and T20 series and judge whether he could be useful for CT/useful international practice.
 
Hawkeye said:
That was a fluke due to cold weather and still air, an extreme weather anomaly.

He cannot swing the ball, can seam the old one. A poor man's Umar Gul. Basically EVERY Pak domestic bowler can do this.
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That's a shame looked like a pretty good prospect in that series not Amir-Esque but still a good prospect.. happens to a lot of bowlers 2-3 good years then they regress.. Irfan Pathan comes to mind the biggest such name from India ..
 
ads101 said:
Rumman Raees has had some hype around him for some time now, bit confused why he hasn't got much chances. Only played one t20 over the whole WI tour. If he had he might have been a serious contender for champions trophy.

Was a massive mistake by our part. We should have given him both ODI and T20 series and judge whether he could be useful for CT/useful international practice.
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He has great variations and seems mentally strong as he doesn't give in after being hit. An ideal bowler for the T20 and ODI format. He might not always take wickets but he is always economical which is an asset.

Our team would have been something had we picked our best squad available.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
He has great variations and seems mentally strong as he doesn't give in after being hit. An ideal bowler for the T20 and ODI format. He might not always take wickets but he is always economical which is an asset.

Our team would have been something had we picked our best squad available.
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is a good thing, prefer those type of economical consistent bowlers. Keep the runs down wickets will come due to pressure. Feel like the expensive bowlers with good SRs often have padded stats, they've taken more wickets as batsmen have tried to target them and got out (and even then what's the point of 2 wickets if you've given away 80 runs or so alone). a bowling attack which gives little away is harder to face.

It annoys me to no end when I see the opposition playing out the other bowlers and then going after guys like Riaz, Sohail Tanvir etc to make up for it. Means those guys who have been bowling well probably won't get the wickets they deserve too.
 
Abdullah said:
I would be bowling imad and amir with the new ball if any right handers. He is gold against teams who haven't faced him before.
So it can still work.
And also I think sarfaraz is good when he has lots of different options . He is good at Marshalling them.
And Wahab is different where as junaid/amir is a bit similar
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Imad has big question marks with his bowling against the big sides, Australia and Newzealand for e.g
 
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