Justice for Fakhar Zaman: Why was he not the PSL 7 player of the tournament?

[Rana]

First he was shafted out from an opening spot by PCB think tank in order to accommodate less deserving players as openers.

He answered his critics brilliantly in this PSL by nearly amassing 600 T20 runs at a strike rate of 150+

His fielding in the final was absolutely phenomenal, he was instrumental in the final even without firing! How then was he not the PSL player of the season?

 

[Zaz]

First he was shafted out from an opening spot by PCB think tank in order to accommodate less deserving players as openers.

He answered his critics brilliantly in this PSL by nearly amassing 600 T20 runs at a strike rate of 150+

His fielding in the final was absolutely phenomenal, he was instrumental in the final even without firing! How then was he not the PSL player of the season?

Just to correct you Babar and Rizwan are more deserving players as openers
Their intnl t20 stats prove this

On topic these sort of things are always debateable but considering everything overall most runs, his team won, so yes on probability he deserved it

 

[PakEngFan]

This thread will not exist had rizwan not won it.

 

[Savak]

He failed in the eliminator and final. He failed to take his team over the line in the first semi final against Multan Sultans. Hurt his chances

 

[Rana]

Just to correct you Babar and Rizwan are more deserving players as openers
Their intnl t20 stats prove this

On topic these sort of things are always debateable but considering everything overall most runs, his team won, so yes on probability he deserved it

How can you ‘correct’ me when I have just proven Fakhar is the most deserving and natural T20 opener in Pakistan?

 

[Rana]

He failed in the eliminator and final. He failed to take his team over the line in the first semi final against Multan Sultans. Hurt his chances

But did he though? He was a gun in the field, these things count 100%

 

[ali_zee]

Dint perform in the most important two matches

 

[Zaz]

How can you ‘correct’ me when I have just proven Fakhar is the most deserving and natural T20 opener in Pakistan?

Where have u "proven" this?

 

[KingKhan12]

It has to PCB baby boys babar or Rizwan. Fakhar deserved it more runs better strike rate

 

[Rana]

Dint perform in the most important two matches

Did Rizwan? He was lucky to get away with his 53 off 51 and what was that sweep shot against Hafeez today?

 

[Rana]

Where have u "proven" this?

Read the OP

587 runs in PSL, the highest ever in its history! Even though he scored 7 runs in the last two matches he played!

 

[SM1989]

Did Rizwan? He was lucky to get away with his 53 off 51 and what was that sweep shot against Hafeez today?

Rizwan’s keeping and captaincy have also been top notch. However who knows maybe he would not have got it if Multan Sultans had wonz They might have given it to Fakhar in that scenario.

 

[Rana]

It has to PCB baby boys babar or Rizwan. Fakhar deserved it more runs better strike rate

Fakhar Zaman is one of their genuine, marketable superstars. He is a megastar IMO! PCB underrate him too much

 

[Rana]

Rizwan’s keeping and captaincy have also been top notch. However who knows maybe he would not have got it if Multan Sultans had wonz They might have given it to Fakhar in that scenario.

But it’s not supposed to be a birthday party award to keep everyone happy. The tournament loses its credibility if the real performer or MVP isn’t rewarded

 

[KingKhan12]

ICC gave Dilshan player of tournament in world t20 2009 despite him not firing in final. PCB just has to give to their favourites what a poor decision to give to Rizwan. Guy flopped today and had a poor innings in semis. Fakhar top scored and had better strike rate by far.
Sad feel sorry for Fakhar and other openers. Just keep Babar and Rizwan open so they can get their selfish 50s and lose when it matters. Get Babar and Rizwan to open in ODIs and tests too but they hide their.

 

[KingKhan12]

Fakhar Zaman is one of their genuine, marketable superstars. He is a megastar IMO! PCB underrate him too much

Agree he is but PCB likes softies

 

[Zaz]

Read the OP

587 runs in PSL, the highest ever in its history! Even though he scored 7 runs in the last two matches he played!

Great performance But thats doesnt "prove" he should be pakistans t20 opener

He ll be in the mix but babar and rizwan arent undeserving based on one franchise tournament

 

[KingKhan12]

Rizwan’s keeping and captaincy have also been top notch. However who knows maybe he would not have got it if Multan Sultans had wonz They might have given it to Fakhar in that scenario.

What nonsense is this so if Multan won they might gave it to Fakhar and as Lahore won then give to Rizwan.

 

[KingKhan12]

Great performance But thats doesnt "prove" he should be pakistans t20 opener

He ll be in the mix but babar and rizwan arent undeserving based on one franchise tournament

This thread is about PSL player of tournament award.

 

[Rana]

Great performance But thats doesnt "prove" he should be pakistans t20 opener

He ll be in the mix but babar and rizwan arent undeserving based on one franchise tournament

If scoring close to 600 runs as an opener doesn’t prove than what does?

 

[Major]

It was a close call. Difference was 50 runs. But remember, Fakhar played more matches because they lost the semi final and got another game which was the eliminator. Rizwan played the required number of games and couldn't out score. Simple as that.

 

[Zaz]

If scoring close to 600 runs as an opener doesn’t prove than what does?

Intnl runs. Both babar and Rizwan have better t20 performances n stats than fakhar

So where does this leave sharjeel than Wasnt he also the most deserving opener for pakistan according to you?

Back on topic Agree pretty harsh on him he was on balance the more deserving candidate for man of the tournament

 

[Darkrai]

Rizwan probably won it because he was the second highest run getter along with being a great WK and captain.

 

[Major]

Btw i think no one noticed this but, PCB was in a dilemma to award the best keeper award.... Guess who was no.1?




Azam Khan

But Rizwan got the award because PCB also used qualitative reasoning aswell and did not rely on only quantitative data.

 

[Rana]

It was a close call. Difference was 50 runs. But remember, Fakhar played more matches because they lost the semi final and got another game which was the eliminator. Rizwan played the required number of games and couldn't out score. Simple as that.

That’s not Fakhar or Rizwan’s fault. It’s the simple structure of the tournament. Fakhar was 70 runs ahead of Rizwan even having to play the extra game, he failed in two innings he played after his brilliant 60 he scored in Qualifier 1. He was handsomely, majestically better than Rizwan from every angle!

 

[Major]

Did Rizwan? He was lucky to get away with his 53 off 51 and what was that sweep shot against Hafeez today?

Rizwans innings was the reason they won that game. It proved as to be the crucial innings on that pitch where fans were earlier critisizing.

 

[Major]

That’s not Fakhar or Rizwan’s fault. It’s the simple structure of the tournament. Fakhar was 70 runs ahead of Rizwan even having to play the extra game, he failed in two innings he played after his brilliant 60 he scored in Qualifier 1. He was handsomely, majestically better than Rizwan from every angle!

Which is why in such cases tournament batting avgs are taken into consideration.

For the same position, Rizwan avg 68 while Fakhar avg 45. As an opener, in 4 innings Rizwan was able to finish the game not out, that itself is a big achievement and cannot be ignored.


Fakhar was great no doubt about that, but you have to look at the number of games played, plus the avg and plus the fact that one guy is batting not out 4 times

 

[Rana]

Rizwans innings was the reason they won that game. It proved as to be the crucial innings on that pitch where fans were earlier critisizing.

But even then, Fakhar outperformed him on the same track at a better strike rate, on a dying 2nd innings track.

Fakhar was always superior to Rizwan throughout

 

[Rana]

Intnl runs. Both babar and Rizwan have better t20 performances n stats than fakhar

So where does this leave sharjeel than Wasnt he also the most deserving opener for pakistan according to you?

Back on topic Agree pretty harsh on him he was on balance the more deserving candidate for man of the tournament

International runs against Zimbabwe, West Indies, SA b team are a joke! Stirling matches Babar and Rizwan whilst playing for a poor team like Ireland.

Fakhar’s 50 in the SF was the reason why Pakistan at least posted a reasonable total!

 

[Naveed99]

What does it matter man?! It doesnt matter who won, yes fakhar deserved it but so did Rizwan or Shaheen afridi or other I forget to mention. These type of awards doesnt even count and why you bother? You called this pathetic and poor Psl.

 

[Major]

But even then, Fakhar outperformed him on the same track at a better strike rate, on a dying 2nd innings track.

Fakhar was always superior to Rizwan throughout

he didnt outperform him, he only played more games. The reason why Fakhar played more games is because his team lost. While Rizwan showed a good performance that help in him playing the final.


You are just arguing just for the sake now. Accept Rizwan is a great t20 player and move on. He has an ICC award and now best psl player

 

[Maher96]

Fakhar did play fantastic but let go at the end of the tournament. Rizwan most likely received a consolation price.

 

[Naveed99]

International runs against Zimbabwe, West Indies, SA b team are a joke! Stirling matches Babar and Rizwan whilst playing for a poor team like Ireland.

Fakhar’s 50 in the SF was the reason why Pakistan at least posted a reasonable total!

Shall i give you the stats against every team all of these players you mention?
Pak played lots of matches against the teams you mentioned and Fakhar as opener hadn’t scored a 50 in last 21 innings.

 

[Major]

Fakhar did play fantastic but let go at the end of the tournament. Rizwan most likely received a consolation price.

sorry, but there was no consolation. Yes Fakhar played well, but at the same position Rizwan went the extra mile where he stayed not out 4 times. An opener staying not out 4 times.

 

[GreenKhan]

According to the MVP ratings, Fakhar was way ahead .
Shadab was second .

Fakhar’s performances speak for themselves. But a quite guy who is modest in celebrating his achievements, and an ultimate team player is probably his downfall.

 

[Rana]

According to the MVP ratings, Fakhar was way ahead .
Shadab was second .

Fakhar’s performances speak for themselves. But a quite guy who is modest in celebrating his achievements, and an ultimate team player is probably his downfall.

They used to treat Abdul Razzaq like this too

 

[Zaz]

International runs against Zimbabwe, West Indies, SA b team are a joke! Stirling matches Babar and Rizwan whilst playing for a poor team like Ireland.

Fakhar’s 50 in the SF was the reason why Pakistan at least posted a reasonable total!

I love fakhar but remind me what his t20 intnl avge is pls?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Fakhar should have won because without him Lahore would not have won the tournament. Other players played important roles too but Fakhar was by far their most consistent performer and anytime he crossed 50 (which was fairly often) Lahore tended to win.

Rizwan had a very good tournament but there were far too many sluggish knocks in there for my liking. And without Shan Masood playing as well as he did I don't see how he could have been as successful as he was because Rizwan tends to start his innings at a slow pace (even when he goes big later on) and benefits greatly if there is someone besides him who can accelerate without losing his wicket. He also did not win Multan the trophy.

And I would argue Shan Masood was even better than Rizwan because he was able to score consistently while maintaining a very good strike-rate for the most part. And he certainly played more impactful knocks than Rizwan in this PSL.

 

[Rana]

I love fakhar but remind me what his t20 intnl avge is pls?

Ah yes. His average of 22 was on display throughout this PSL and parts of the T20 World Cup

 

[PakEngFan]

I love fakhar but remind me what his t20 intnl avge is pls?

22 and strike rate better then Babar by 1 and rizwan by 8 but their batting averages are 45+

 

[Major]

Fakhar should have won because without him Lahore would not have won the tournament. Other players played important roles too but Fakhar was by far their most consistent performer and anytime he crossed 50 (which was fairly often) Lahore tended to win.

Rizwan had a very good tournament but there were far too many sluggish knocks in there for my liking. And without Shan Masood playing as well as he did I don't see how he could have been as successful as he was because Rizwan tends to start his innings at a slow pace (even when he goes big later on) and benefits greatly if there is someone besides him who can accelerate without losing his wicket. He also did not win Multan the trophy.

And I would argue Shan Masood was even better than Rizwan because he was able to score consistently while maintaining a very good strike-rate for the most part. And he certainly played more impactful knocks than Rizwan in this PSL.

that is a more balance view, and you make a good point.

your opinion on shadab getting this award? My issue with him was that most of his wickets were just lucky ones as his line and length improved later in the tournament. His first overs in the first few games were not very good in terms of accuracy and relied on batsmen rash shots for wickets.

Shaheen and zaman had become the top three in the tables tonight

 

[PakEngFan]

Ah yes. His average of 22 was on display throughout this PSL and parts of the T20 World Cup

In the World Cup his average was 20 odd strike rate less then both Babar and Rizwan, average even less and runs even less so much so both got nearly 200 more runs then him. Try again.

 

[Cric1234]

At least he won the tournament that’s the biggest justice and I don’t think he’ll mind too much would take a trophy over a MOT award.

For now Rizwan is everyone’s favourites once his form goes then things won’t be as good as he has a steady style of batting expect slow innings more and more in the future from him.

 

[PakEngFan]

At least he won the tournament that’s the biggest justice and I don’t think he’ll mind too much would take a trophy over a MOT award.

For now Rizwan is everyone’s favourites once his form goes then things won’t be as good as he has a steady style of batting expect slow innings more and more in the future from him.

Rizwan is only favourite because people tell us sharjeel is better. No brainier really who I would pick.

 

[Cric1234]

Rizwan is only favourite because people tell us sharjeel is better. No brainier really who I would pick.

No I would say Umar Akmal can play the best innings as an opener on a small ground against weak bowling he could make a 100 of 35 40 balls even against better teams he can play quicker than most.

 

[Concerned]

To be fair, Fakhar carried LQ batting throughout. He scored meaningful runs at a healthy strike rate. I feel he should have been the player of the tournament.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

that is a more balance view, and you make a good point.

your opinion on shadab getting this award? My issue with him was that most of his wickets were just lucky ones as his line and length improved later in the tournament. His first overs in the first few games were not very good in terms of accuracy and relied on batsmen rash shots for wickets.

Shaheen and zaman had become the top three in the tables tonight

He was very good. And I think he should get credit for bowling with what I would call: guile. Fact is leg-spinners in limited-overs cricket have to rely on batters taking a go at them because chances are you won't find many pitches in T20 cricket that offer extravagant turn. I got the sense that he was deliberately pulling his length back at certain stages of the match to invite the batter to play a rash-shot. But that wasn't always the case when he was bowling to tail-enders or when he was trying to control the run-flow.

But again, he couldn't win his side the tournament. And for me, Hales firing with the bat was just as important as Shadab firing with the ball. Whereas, Fakhar (individually) was far bigger key to Lahore's success than any of the other Lahore players.

 

[PakEngFan]

No I would say Umar Akmal can play the best innings as an opener on a small ground against weak bowling he could make a 100 of 35 40 balls even against better teams he can play quicker than most.

And why hasn’t he done that in the millions of chances which Pakistan gave him.

 

[shamaan]

He failed in the eliminator and final. He failed to take his team over the line in the first semi final against Multan Sultans. Hurt his chances

Rizwan didn't perform in the final to thou.

 

[shamaan]

Fakhar should have been awarded this award due to having a higher strike rate and also carrying Lohare to the Semi Final also in the final his fielding was phenomenal.

Rizwan did what Rizwan does score runs at an okay SR.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

You could make a case for Fakhar, as he was the best player on the team that won the tournament. You can also make a case for Shadab.

 

[Cric1234]

And why hasn’t he done that in the millions of chances which Pakistan gave him.

He has been given zero chances to open no player scores hundreds batting at no 6 in ODIs limited time available during the end of an innings.