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Led from the front with the bat. (Something which our captain can learn from). Also had the ball to pick Somerville in a deciding game . His tactics in the first test were also brilliant.

I think as well as being a brilliant batsmen , Kane Williamson is is a brilliant captain. He has impressed me as captain since 2016 World T20 when he got his tactics spot.

Sarfraz fans like to talk about his tactics but Kane Williamson is has shown you fan boys what tactics are.

Another thing to add is he has a team which isn't the most talanted but he is finding a way to get the best out of his team and put them in roles that plays to their strengths.

Deserves credit for his captaincy ,leadership,and tactics.
 
Yes ,did not panic after the thrashing in second test, kept up the spirit and what a phenomenal innings in third test, one of the best team efforts to do something remarkable and captain led from front.
 
He was definitely impressive this match and won the series with bat and his captaincy.

Kohli, Smith or Root haven't been able to do something like it against a top side away which directly led to an away series win.
 
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He was definitely impressive this match and won the series with bat and his captaincy.

Kohli, Smith or Root haven't been able to do something like it against a top side away which directly led to an away series win.

While Kane is a better captain than the three, Pakistan isn’t a top side. An Australia with Smith and Warner would have smashed this side. India would have eaten this side alive.

Would be happy to see Kane win a series in SA.
 
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He was definitely impressive this match and won the series with bat and his captaincy.

Kohli, Smith or Root haven't been able to do something like it against a top side away which directly led to an away series win.

We aren't a top side in tests but I get your point. Kohli and Smith have mostly led through performances.
 
NZ always had the privilege of excellent tactical Captains. They also always punched above their weight. A great example of a team collective triumphing over individual brilliance. This time they have two genuine super stars in Kane and Boult. It's a pity they won't play many tests because of NZ board's new directive.
 
We aren't a top side in tests but I get your point. Kohli and Smith have mostly led through performances.
I mean top side i.e. top 6-7.

I use the term interchangeably, sometimes it means the top 3 other times top 6-7.
 
NZ always had the privilege of excellent tactical Captains. They also always punched above their weight. A great example of a team collective triumphing over individual brilliance. This time they have two genuine super stars in Kane and Boult. It's a pity they won't play many tests because of NZ board's new directive.
Nicholls and Rosco aint bad too.

What’s the new directive?
 
He was definitely impressive this match and won the series with bat and his captaincy.

Kohli, Smith or Root haven't been able to do something like it against a top side away which directly led to an away series win.

Joe Root did something similar in SL recently
 
I mean top side i.e. top 6-7.

I use the term interchangeably, sometimes it means the top 3 other times top 6-7.
Top 6-7 is an oxymoron in a world of 9 test teams. And Pakistan is 6/7. So its just a way to label Pakistan a top side.

Its top 3, top 4 at max.
 
He singlehandedly changed the fortunes. That innings was exceptional. Nicholls looked edgy at first but Kanes innings gave him confidence.
 
Top 6-7 is an oxymoron in a world of 9 test teams. And Pakistan is 6/7. So its just a way to label Pakistan a top side.

Its top 3, top 4 at max.
Top side is one way to eliminate lesser teams, either way Pakistan are a formidable team in the UAE.
 
Pakistan is a terrible side these days. Ranked 7 for a reason. WI could have won a test series in UAE. SL White washed them.

Again, Kane is a great captain but he still needs to achieve a lot more. His team’s accomplishments are very few as compared to Kohli, Root, or Smith’s. Too early to compare/belittle the three.
 
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Top side is one way to eliminate lesser teams, either way Pakistan are a formidable team in the UAE.

Pakistan is a lesser team and is also very mediocre at home. Check their recent record pls.
 
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Pakistan is a lesser team. Pakistan is very mediocre at home. Check their recent record pls.
They've lost one series and that was to SL who had Herath.

They're not the same team anymore, but still are difficult to beat. NZ were outplayed for most of this series.
 
His captaincy was not consistently great. In fact at times I found it a bit questionable this series but today's mastersful execution of a bold strategy erases all that. I think everyone including Pakistan expected NZ to declare at lunch and then oak were confident of seeing out 60 overs. I think Williamson assessed too that it would be difficult to bowl out Pak in only 60 overs on this pitch which wasn't going to break up enough. Hence that assault in the morning on the new ball. Took Pakistan completely unawares and 81 off 9 overs ensured that NZ had enough time to try and force a win. Which they did in 56 odd overs. Had NZ batted till lunch , Pak would face sneaked a draw. Brilliant captaincy! Shocked Pakistan into a loss and destroyed their confidence .
 
Pakistan is a terrible side these days. Ranked 7 for a reason. WI could have won a test series in UAE. SL White washed them.

Again, Kane is a great captain but he still needs to achieve a lot more. His team’s accomplishments are very few as compared to Kohli, Root, or Smith’s. Too early to compare/belittle the three.
Kohli and Root have literally achieved nothing away from home (series wins).

Root early this year lost an away series to NZ and that rarely happens... Many were calling for him to lose captaincy.
 
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Pakistan is a terrible side these days. Ranked 7 for a reason. WI could have won a test series in UAE. SL White washed them.

Again, Kane is a great captain but he still needs to achieve a lot more. His team’s accomplishments are very few as compared to Kohli, Root, or Smith’s. Too early to compare/belittle the three.

He had Patel and Somerville as spinners and won this test easily.

We have the best spinner in the world according to our fans and look at how easily NZ won. He deserves credit for his tactics.
 
SL away isn't the same as Pakistan in UAE, even though it's not the same since YK and Misbah retired.

SL is much better at home than Pak in UAE. Heck, SL is a better test team than Pak as they won against Pak in UAE not too long ago. Don't forget that this SL team defeated SA 2-0 at home this year. England beating SL 3-0 is a huge achievement and should not be discounted and Root had a huge impact
 
SL is much better at home than Pak in UAE. Heck, SL is a better test team than Pak as they won against Pak in UAE not too long ago. Don't forget that this SL team defeated SA 2-0 at home this year. England beating SL 3-0 is a huge achievement and should not be discounted and Root had a huge impact
Yeah, back when they had Herath. Not the case now.

They don't have a single world class player in their team atm. Pakistan have Yasir (on atg level atm) and Azhar (who is borderline).
 
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His captaincy was not consistently great. In fact at times I found it a bit questionable this series but today's mastersful execution of a bold strategy erases all that. I think everyone including Pakistan expected NZ to declare at lunch and then oak were confident of seeing out 60 overs. I think Williamson assessed too that it would be difficult to bowl out Pak in only 60 overs on this pitch which wasn't going to break up enough. Hence that assault in the morning on the new ball. Took Pakistan completely unawares and 81 off 9 overs ensured that NZ had enough time to try and force a win. Which they did in 56 odd overs. Had NZ batted till lunch , Pak would face sneaked a draw. Brilliant captaincy! Shocked Pakistan into a loss and destroyed their confidence .

Good point. That 9 overs for 80 runs took the draw out of contention.
 
They've lost one series and that was to SL who had Herath.

They're not the same team anymore, but still are difficult to beat. NZ were outplayed for most of this series.
Pakistan is comical. They lost the first test by 4 runs when they had it in the bag. I’ve watched Pakistan a lot and trust me if it was Jason Holder’s West Indies defending that paltry total that day, Pakistan would have still lost.
The third game - well, Australia batted for 1+ days to save a test against Yasir on day4/day5 and Pakistan couldn’t survive 70 overs. It was indeed a bold declaration by Kane but most sides would have survived the last day. Again, Pakistan could never do it against any test playing nation. If the game was against BD, someone like Shakib would have destroyed them. If against WI, Bishoo. You get the drift.
 
Without a shadow of doubt. My favorite among fab 4.

As a Captain, he actually covers about 90% with 1st quality - an automatic choice in playing XI, who would be first name in squad in any case and someone good enough to lead (read carry team) from the front.

For rest 10%, yes - he is baptized at right age (first as deputy, then Captain) so he had the time to learn the tricks, he has the right attitude to respond in different situations, he is extremely fit to be leader in fielding, he is inquisitive, always in the game and he is fair, which draws respect from his teams.

That's 99% - only thing missing is I haven't seen him yelling at players like a thug boss and smash stumps when upset ....... he can manage without those qualities though.
 
Yeah, back when they had Herath. Not the case now.

They don't have a single world class player in their team atm. Pakistan have Yasir (on atg level atm) and Azhar (who is borderline).

The new spinners are decent enough and are picking wickets. Bowling is not their problem. It's the batting, same as Pak
 
The new spinners are decent enough and are picking wickets. Bowling is not their problem. It's the batting, same as Pak
Yes, so how are they a better team? Because they won a series against Pakistan when they had Herath with them?

A win against Pakistan in UAE is much bigger than a win against SL away. I would take a series win against Pakistan in the UAE in a heartbeat.
 
Pakistan is comical. They lost the first test by 4 runs when they had it in the bag. I’ve watched Pakistan a lot and trust me if it was Jason Holder’s West Indies defending that paltry total that day, Pakistan would have still lost.
The third game - well, Australia batted for 1+ days to save a test against Yasir on day4/day5 and Pakistan couldn’t survive 70 overs. It was indeed a bold declaration by Kane but most sides would have survived the last day. Again, Pakistan could never do it against any test playing nation. If the game was against BD, someone like Shakib would have destroyed them. If against WI, Bishoo. You get the drift.
All I'm saying is most would take a series win in the UAE over a series win in SL.

Whichever team is better is questionable since SL have lost Herath.
 
Yes, so how are they a better team? Because they won a series against Pakistan when they had Herath with them?

A win against Pakistan in UAE is much bigger than a win against SL away. I would take the win against Pakistan in the UAE in a heartbeat.

'Much bigger' is your perception. It's tougher to beat SL in SL than Pak in UAE. SL is a tougher nut to crack at home considering Pak has been losing games in UAE frequently at home. SL has been cracked by Eng and Ind only and they are top test teams.
 
'Much bigger' is your perception. It's tougher to beat SL in SL than Pak in UAE. SL is a tougher nut to crack at home considering Pak has been losing games in UAE frequently at home. SL has been cracked by Eng and Ind only and they are top test teams.
Tougher nut? They literally lost 3-0 to an England team who has lost nearly away series they've played in recent years.
 
Before the SL series, England had won 3 and lost 11 out of their last 18 Tests away....

Series defeats in Aus, India and NZ.

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Tougher nut? They literally lost 3-0 to an England team who has lost nearly away series they've played in recent years.

A couple of things. This is a slightly different English side to the one that lost haplessly to OZ/NZ last year. They've shown a lot of resilience both in the home season and on the away tour of lanka. Fir how long is to be seen but for now they have played well . And they not only won but whitewashed SL in SL which is a feat not many teams have done over the years. I can only think of 3-4 instances.
 
A couple of things. This is a slightly different English side to the one that lost haplessly to OZ/NZ last year. They've shown a lot of resilience both in the home season and on the away tour of lanka. Fir how long is to be seen but for now they have played well . And they not only won but whitewashed SL in SL which is a feat not many teams have done over the years. I can only think of 3-4 instances.
This SL team is young and doesn't have someone like Herath to bail them out anymore. Pakistan still has Yasir who is by a long way the best spinner in world cricket atm and is one of the few game changing bowlers capable of running through a team. He literally won the second Test on his own.
 
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This SL team is young and doesn't have someone like Herath to bail them out anymore. Pakistan still has Yasir who is by a long way the best spinner in world cricket atm and is one of the few game changing bowlers capable of running through a team. He literally won the second Test on his own.

Sure. Both are very good series wins for England and New Zealand respectively and are good accomplishments. I think the difference though is clearly that Williamson's captaincy made NZ look a much stronger side than they actually are whereas root's captaincy was pretty average. They won simply because man for man they were much stronger than SL even in Asian conditions with better spinners and better batsmen.
 
'Much bigger' is your perception. It's tougher to beat SL in SL than Pak in UAE. SL is a tougher nut to crack at home considering Pak has been losing games in UAE frequently at home. SL has been cracked by Eng and Ind only and they are top test teams.

They lost one Test to BD as well at home and won another Test to ZIM by creating almost world record. But,, overall MUCH better team at home particularly if they win the toss. Recently they have smoked SAF 2-0 with batting first & made ENG sweat for 2 of the 3 Tests, after losing all 3 tosses.

Give Sarfraz 5 all tosses, my hunch is at best PAK can expect 1-1 against SAF & 1-2 against Poms - that's in UAE. Those YK/Misbah days are over, and I have to say MoHa days as well - he was quite good in UAE few years back.
 
Good declaration today.

Seemed to confuse Pakistan regarding their approach.

I can't imagine too many Pak captains over the years who would have made this declaration.
 
True

Led from the front with the bat. (Something which our captain can learn from). Also had the ball to pick Somerville in a deciding game . His tactics in the first test were also brilliant.

I think as well as being a brilliant batsmen , Kane Williamson is is a brilliant captain. He has impressed me as captain since 2016 World T20 when he got his tactics spot.

Sarfraz fans like to talk about his tactics but Kane Williamson is has shown you fan boys what tactics are.

Another thing to add is he has a team which isn't the most talanted but he is finding a way to get the best out of his team and put them in roles that plays to their strengths.

Deserves credit for his captaincy ,leadership,and tactics.

>> Spot on , did the same thing with SRH in IPL. Gun captain and most likeable.
 
Some of our friends here do not understand the concept of a captain leading from the front with his performances. They think that if a captain bats at a prominent position in the lineup, he is being selfish and is hogging the spotlight, but if a captain is batting lower down the order, he is selfless and is sacrificing himself for the sake of his team.

Whatever you wrote in this thread is gibberish for them.
 
Some of our friends here do not understand the concept of a captain leading from the front with his performances. They think that if a captain bats at a prominent position in the lineup, he is being selfish and is hogging the spotlight, but if a captain is batting lower down the order, he is selfless and is sacrificing himself for the sake of his team.

Whatever you wrote in this thread is gibberish for them.

The 3 main Sarfraz fan boys haven't commented on this thread I wonder why lol?

Williamson showed us today what tactics are . Sarfraz praise him for bowling specialist bowlers and bowling right arm offies to left hand spinners . That's how you know when a captain is average by being praised for that . :)))
 
I think this NZ side can also beat India in India. They have a very complete test unit.
 
The best captain in world cricket at the moment. Leads his somewhat limited team like a roman general into battle.
 
SL is much better at home than Pak in UAE. Heck, SL is a better test team than Pak as they won against Pak in UAE not too long ago. Don't forget that this SL team defeated SA 2-0 at home this year. England beating SL 3-0 is a huge achievement and should not be discounted and Root had a huge impact

Herath retired after first test. SL without Herath is a minnow. Pakistan still has Yasir who recently became fastest to 200 wickets. Williamson neutralizing Yasir (who averaged < 20 this series) and winning the series is a huge achievement.
 
Led from the front with the bat. (Something which our captain can learn from). Also had the ball to pick Somerville in a deciding game . His tactics in the first test were also brilliant.

I think as well as being a brilliant batsmen , Kane Williamson is is a brilliant captain. He has impressed me as captain since 2016 World T20 when he got his tactics spot.

Sarfraz fans like to talk about his tactics but Kane Williamson is has shown you fan boys what tactics are.

Another thing to add is he has a team which isn't the most talanted but he is finding a way to get the best out of his team and put them in roles that plays to their strengths.

Deserves credit for his captaincy ,leadership,and tactics.

This is why having an outstanding natural captain is a god send, can make the most mediocre bunch punch above their weight. Pakistan has not had this type of captain for a very long time.
 
His captaincy was not consistently great. In fact at times I found it a bit questionable this series but today's mastersful execution of a bold strategy erases all that. I think everyone including Pakistan expected NZ to declare at lunch and then oak were confident of seeing out 60 overs. I think Williamson assessed too that it would be difficult to bowl out Pak in only 60 overs on this pitch which wasn't going to break up enough. Hence that assault in the morning on the new ball. Took Pakistan completely unawares and 81 off 9 overs ensured that NZ had enough time to try and force a win. Which they did in 56 odd overs. Had NZ batted till lunch , Pak would face sneaked a draw. Brilliant captaincy! Shocked Pakistan into a loss and destroyed their confidence .


This is what great captain and teams do, take initiative to force a result. Unlike Sarfaraz who gives away singles, shouts, screams and shows his stress to the rest of the team, only looks good when he is on top but gives up when things don't go to plan. I have seen enough of Sarfaraz now and don't think he can improve any further or change who he is. Won't be surprised to see him get shown the door down the line.
 
This is what great captain and teams do, take initiative to force a result. Unlike Sarfaraz who gives away singles, shouts, screams and shows his stress to the rest of the team, only looks good when he is on top but gives up when things don't go to plan. I have seen enough of Sarfaraz now and don't think he can improve any further or change who he is. Won't be surprised to see him get shown the door down the line.

To be fair I have not seen any visiting captain do this in UAE. Not the way Williamson has done it. And Williamson strikes me as an exceptionally good captain . Well ahead of the likes of Kohli and root let alone Sarfraz.
 
He really is. An old fashioned classic cricketer who is loved by all. As a captain, his calmness was all so persasive. Always seemed to be in control except for the session in 2nd test.

It's a pity NZ do not play tests regularly.
 
Pakistan tends to make a lot of captains and players look a lot better than they are. But in Williamson's case, he realy is very good. An exceptional declaration. Having batted for so long on that pitch, he knew Pakistan would not last long.
 
Lol @ Aman.

Your predictions throughout this series have been completely off. And you called Williamson "not even world class" as a batsman.
 
I think this NZ side can also beat India in India. They have a very complete test unit.

Wooooaaaahhhh this one slipped through the net.

This is the best NZ side in a long time but that’s a big statement to make, surely too early to be saying that.

India have lost like 2 Test series at home in the last 20 years.
 
Wooooaaaahhhh this one slipped through the net.

This is the best NZ side in a long time but that’s a big statement to make, surely too early to be saying that.

India have lost like 2 Test series at home in the last 20 years.

He was obviously fishing..
 
Kane is definitely the best test captain going around and unfortunately for Pakistan, Faf du Plessis is probably the second best captain in tests these days. The rest of them are average really with Sarfaraz being the worse of the lot.
 
I think this NZ side can also beat India in India. They have a very complete test unit.

They won't be facing such a weak bowling line up which they faced in UAE.

There they were against a spinner who averages 28+ and best/only bowler of the team. In India they will be surviving against 3 spinners who average 25, 25 and 23.
 
This is why having an outstanding natural captain is a god send, can make the most mediocre bunch punch above their weight. Pakistan has not had this type of captain for a very long time.

Our next captain needs to make the team on merit and be consistent in his own job. Also we need to stay away from making specialist wicket keepers captain.
 
While kane williamson played and captained beautifully but I think Joe Root changed the mindset of Eng and thry whitewashed sl on rank turning pitches which are tougher than slow turners of UAE. On top that Joe Root played a breath taking innings to win the series for Eng.
 
Kane is really coming into his own as a captain now in tests and limited overs. It was kind of inevitable really, the guy relentlessly works on improving any flaw in his game.

If NZ could somehow conjure 1 or 2 more consistant batsman we would be a force.
 
Williamson utilised the playing resources he had very well. He knew how to get the best out of his players. No shouting, no drama, no head-shaking, no sucking-up to the senior players.
 
While kane williamson played and captained beautifully but I think Joe Root changed the mindset of Eng and thry whitewashed sl on rank turning pitches which are tougher than slow turners of UAE. On top that Joe Root played a breath taking innings to win the series for Eng.
Lol Lanka doesn't have Yasie, ABbas, Hassan Ali so please..
One of the most toothless bowling attacks ever Lanka has, just because PCT lost coz of Herath doesn't mean Lanka was a great team to beat ,Eng has good spinners too, plus they somehow earthed Curran!
 
One of the best captains in the world currently, if not the best.
 
A wonderful leader of his country. He sets the example time and again.
 
Credit to the OP for his excellent reading of the game as per usual. Good thread [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION].

Kane Williamson is perhaps the best captain in world cricket.
 
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Credit to the OP for his excellent reading of the game as per usual. Good thread [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION].

Kane Williamson is perhaps the best captain in world cricket.

Always knew this guy would be a excellent captain after that World T20 win vs India. Had the guts to drop Souhtee and Boult to play a extra spinner . Also knew his batting wouldn't decline with captaincy. Captains leading from the front inspire a team.

Should finish as NZ best batter and 2nd best captain after Fleming. Could surpass Fleming if he wins a tournament and gets them to number 1 in test.

Excellent cricketer.
 
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When did Pakistan last have these things in a captain. Honestly speaking i cant even remember.
 
He was diving around the field like a young kid with his team-mates clapping him and made some great stops.

His team were in trouble with the bat yet he remained calm, composed and had a plan and the most important thing is that he saw his team home, he made sure he was there to the end and not relying on someone else to do it for him.
 
Always knew this guy would be a excellent captain after that World T20 win vs India. Had the guts to drop Souhtee and Boult to play a extra spinner . Also knew his batting wouldn't decline with captaincy. Captains leading from the front inspire a team.

Should finish as NZ best batter and 2nd best captain after Fleming. Could surpass Fleming if he wins a tournament and gets them to number 1 in test.

Excellent cricketer.

That was a shock result and a lot of the credit has to go to Kane, for inspiring his team to punch above their weight against the odds to turn over the hosts. Good foresight there.
 
That was a shock result and a lot of the credit has to go to Kane, for inspiring his team to punch above their weight against the odds to turn over the hosts. Good foresight there.

Dropping Boult and Southee was a shock but it worked out. NZ is in good hands with him as captain.
 
Clutch knock from Kane, these are the runs that matter most.
 
Kane Williamson | phenomenal captain

While we all got consumed in bashing Kohli and Indian team and their overhyped no:1 ranking, let's take a moment to reflect on and appreciate Kane Williamson's captaincy. His captaincy record is shaping up into something quite significant. 18 test victories out of 32 matches as captain against 6 losses, series victory against Pakistani away (after 50 years or so) in which 2 of the matches they came back from behind, drawn series against Lanka in Lanka, drawn series against England. They won one away test against Lanka batting 2nd, something which perhaps no visiting team has done against a strong host in the last 4-5 years. Add to it that he won the world cup but was deprived of it by a certain dharamsena (why is he still an umpire after such a massive blunder in WC final?)

Now kiwis never get the glamour and hype, which Asians do but Kane has created some real memorable moments in a short span of time.
 
Kane Williamson is an admirable captain, cricketer and overall human being. Taken NZ to new heights. Much respect.
 
Best captain in the world, his workload however is an issue and is starting to take a toll on his batting.
 
So losing a World Cup final and defeating india at home makes him a great captain? oh please..New Zealand can't win away from home, just like India
 
Best captain in the world, his workload however is an issue and is starting to take a toll on his batting.

You have to back your captain. I didn't like it when you were bashing Kane during that Australia series. Most of your players are good against swing, seam and on slow wickets.

They failed in Australia because they aren't good against pace and bounce.
 
Kane is the only captain among the Fab four to take his team to World Cup final and led them proudly in the finals.
 
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