Kevin Pietersen says IPL auction is a slap in Test cricket's face

[SL_Fan]

Former England batsman Kevin Pietersen says Monday's auction for the Indian Premier League Twenty20 competition was "another slap in Test cricket's face".

England duo Ben Stokes and Tymal Mills were bought for £1.7m and £1.4m by Rising Pune Supergiants and and Royal Challengers Bangalore respectively.

Pace bowler Mills only plays Twenty20 cricket because of back pains.

"A T20 specialist becomes one of the current England team's richest players," said Pietersen.

Pietersen has not played an international match since he was sacked by England in 2014.

He has since become a T20 specialist and played in competitions in Australia, India, South Africa, the West Indies and in the Pakistani T20 tournament held in the UAE.

"I embraced [T20] eight years ago and it's what caused me my P45," said the 36-year-old on social media. "I absolutely love how all these youngsters are now benefiting.

"I love how T20 is growing the game. I'm just saying that Tests are falling way behind at the moment. The ICC [International Cricket Council] needs to act and quick."

England players Chris Woakes, Eoin Morgan, Jason Roy and Chris Jordan were also bought in the auction, while Jos Buttler and Sam Billings were retained by their franchises.

The fee paid for 25-year-old all-rounder Stokes made him the the most expensive overseas player in IPL history.

"It's a life-changing amount of money," said Stokes. "I'm struggling to put it into words.

"I hadn't thought about how much I would go for. I guess having more than one team wanting me was probably the best position to be in.

"I just wanted to get picked up and play. I haven't been able to play in the past so that was the main thing, anything else was just a bonus.

"I'm looking forward to getting out there and getting involved."

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[JaDed]

What was the point he was trying to make? IPL should reduce the bidding or Test cricket should start paying more?

 

[roshanrocks]

He basically means, Test cricket is not lucrative enough for youngsters. Thats all.

 

[ExpressPacer]

What was the point he was trying to make? IPL should reduce the bidding or Test cricket should start paying more?

Test cricket should start paying more, perhaps. And that can only be done by increasing the popularity of Test cricket. IPL players wouldn't even paid 10K USD if IPL wasn't as popular. So, I guess he wants ICC to work more towards making Test cricket popular.

 

[JaDed]

Test cricket should start paying more, perhaps. And that can only be done by increasing the popularity of Test cricket. IPL players wouldn't even paid 10K USD if IPL wasn't as popular. So, I guess he wants ICC to work more towards making Test cricket popular.

And how would that be? I dont know anyone personally who watches complete 5 days of test cricket or has the time for it,unless its moved to night where people can actually watch it raising the advertising revenue even then 90 overs a day for 4-5 days compared to 40 overs for single day.

I love tests but i started watching it in 90s when it was great and i had the time for it.The snapchat generation wil not be able to give it complete consumer time not to forget players fit to play 5 days of cricket and that too with 2-4 tests is hardly a possibility.

 

[ExpressPacer]

And how would that be? I dont know anyone personally who watches complete 5 days of test cricket or has the time for it,unless its moved to night where people can actually watch it raising the advertising revenue even then 90 overs a day for 4-5 days compared to 40 overs for single day.

I love tests but i started watching it in 90s when it was great and i had the time for it.The snapchat generation wil not be able to give it complete consumer time not to forget players fit to play 5 days of cricket and that too with 2-4 tests is hardly a possibility.

Exactly. Test cricket has always been on the verge of dying. Even in the 1930's. Maybe ICC should take a share of Twenty20 Tournament profits and use that to increase the salaries of Test Players. That would be unethical but is an option.

 

[Varun]

I don't even get how the IPL is so popular. It's basically popcorn vs test cricket which is the real deal. Across all fronts.

 

[LastManstanding]

Exactly. Test cricket has always been on the verge of dying. Even in the 1930's. Maybe ICC should take a share of Twenty20 Tournament profits and use that to increase the salaries of Test Players. That would be unethical but is an option.

ICC doesnt pay the salaries of players, their home boards do.

 

[R0H1T]

Exactly. Test cricket has always been on the verge of dying. Even in the 1930's. Maybe ICC should take a share of Twenty20 Tournament profits and use that to increase the salaries of Test Players. That would be unethical but is an option.

And how do you propose they do that, by touching the IPL & getting burned so bad that there's no ICC left thereafter? OR they go on siphoning off more $ destined for BCCI, kind of like the recent (proposed) reforms?

 

[Rafay Shafiq]

And how would that be? I dont know anyone personally who watches complete 5 days of test cricket or has the time for it,unless its moved to night where people can actually watch it raising the advertising revenue even then 90 overs a day for 4-5 days compared to 40 overs for single day.

I love tests but i started watching it in 90s when it was great and i had the time for it.The snapchat generation wil not be able to give it complete consumer time not to forget players fit to play 5 days of cricket and that too with 2-4 tests is hardly a possibility.

Boards should increase test match fees. ICC may support

 

[ExpressPacer]

ICC doesnt pay the salaries of players, their home boards do.

I know. But I mean the way they "help" boards like Zimbabwe.

 

[R0H1T]

Boards should increase test match fees. ICC may support

They have a dedicated test fund, under the big 3, but surprise surprise it'll be gone post these reforms.

 

[ExpressPacer]

And how do you propose they do that, by touching the IPL & getting burned so bad that there's no ICC left thereafter? OR they go on siphoning off more $ destined for BCCI, kind of like the recent (proposed) reforms?

Its not only the IPL. BBL and CPL make a lot of money too. Even PSL is going to make a lot of money when played in Pakistan and as the tournament grows older. England is looking the revamp their league too and BPL is gradually making good money too. It could be a uniformed thing. A percentage of the total profit made by a league that is equal for all. Nobody would call it biased and ICC would make a lot of money with which they could fund the boards.

 

[JaDed]

I don't even get how the IPL is so popular. It's basically popcorn vs test cricket which is the real deal. Across all fronts.

That's exactly the reason why its so famous, suits the current generation not to forget city rivalries are a big thing and clubs do a lot to get attached to their city.

Remember once my mom was in an auto and the csk bus was also on the same route and he went so slow just because he wanted to get a glimpse of the team on my mom questioning him he went "namma team " amma.

 

[JaDed]

Its not only the IPL. BBL and CPL make a lot of money too. Even PSL is going to make a lot of money when played in Pakistan and as the tournament grows older. England is looking the revamp their league too and BPL is gradually making good money too. It could be a uniformed thing. A percentage of the total profit made by a league that is equal for all. Nobody would call it biased and ICC would make a lot of money with which they could fund the boards.

You take the policies of the ones in ur display pic way too seriously,they flopped for a reason.

 

[R0H1T]

Its not only the IPL. BBL and CPL make a lot of money too. Even PSL is going to make a lot of money when played in Pakistan and as the tournament grows older. England is looking the revamp their league too and BPL is gradually making good money too. It could be a uniformed thing. A percentage of the total profit made by a league that is equal for all. Nobody would call it biased and ICC would make a lot of money with which they could fund the boards.

And do they charge a flat fee or a flat rate from these leagues? If it's the latter then the IPL already pays more $ than all the other leagues combined, probably 2 more than the sum total of all these leagues. So now we're back to square one wrt revenue distribution, there's also the problem of private team owners (in IPL & PSL) who wouldn't give up their money freely.

 

[ExpressPacer]

You take the policies of the ones in ur display pic way too seriously,they flopped for a reason.

First of all, let me make it clear, I've said it before, this would be unethical and immoral BUT is an option.

Secondly, you need to check your history bro, both were successful and got what they aimed for. Yeah, you don't get everything but flopping means you lost at everything.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Highest paid Rugby player gets 1.4 million £ per year.

So cricket pays you more to rugby now in UK!

 

[SandyB]

The thing is, IPL and Tests are products aimed at two different audiences Casual entertainment Vs Enthusiasts. Of course, there is a huge overlap between the two..

Even the casual cricket follower watched tests / followed it back then beacause THERE WAS NO OTHER FORMAT.. When ODIs started we saw the shift too. More people were brought into the fray , especially in the SC.. People who normally wouldn't have had the time for TESTs started following cricket. T20 is a further expansion of that idea, to bring more people into cricket.

No matter what TEST cricket does, its not going to attract this "new audience", who would've never been into cricket otherwise in the first place.. So what ICC must aim for is to retain the exclusively "enthusiast" fan base of test cricket and the overlapping bits from the "casual follower" audience..

These direct comparisons to TESTS and T20's audiences is very misleading .

 

[Convict]

The thing is that Bangalore really have no idea how to list manage if they are playing a player of Mills' dubious quality that money.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The thing is that Bangalore really have no idea how to list manage if they are playing a player of Mills' dubious quality that money.

RCB have no idea how to spend money. Absolutely clueless! It's ridiculous that the likes of Stokes and Tymal Mills are being paid that much anyway.

 

[Slog]

The thing is, IPL and Tests are products aimed at two different audiences Casual entertainment Vs Enthusiasts. Of course, there is a huge overlap between the two..

Even the casual cricket follower watched tests / followed it back then beacause THERE WAS NO OTHER FORMAT.. When ODIs started we saw the shift too. More people were brought into the fray , especially in the SC.. People who normally wouldn't have had the time for TESTs started following cricket. T20 is a further expansion of that idea, to bring more people into cricket.

No matter what TEST cricket does, its not going to attract this "new audience", who would've never been into cricket otherwise in the first place.. So what ICC must aim for is to retain the exclusively "enthusiast" fan base of test cricket and the overlapping bits from the "casual follower" audience..

These direct comparisons to TESTS and T20's audiences is very misleading .

I think young BBL fans will eventually get into Test cricket

eventhough its been so successful, in Aus BBL is still below tests

 

[Rayyman]

Time for cricket to go from golf to a real sport. Get rid of long, boring Tests and ODIs. Play T20 leagues all year round with international friendlies and World T20 every four years. We can have ACC Champions League and Asia Cup instead of UEFA Champions League and Euros.

IPL will be La Liga
Natwest (need to change name) will be EPL
BBL will be Bundesliga
CPL will be Serie A
PSL will be Ligue 1
BPL will be Primeira Liga
Ram Slam (need to chane name) will be Argentine Primera
SLPL will be Eredivisie

 

[JaDed]

First of all, let me make it clear, I've said it before, this would be unethical and immoral BUT is an option.

Secondly, you need to check your history bro, both were successful and got what they aimed for. Yeah, you don't get everything but flopping means you lost at everything.

History of communism except literacy it achieved nothing and look where Russia and Cuba stand today! Also your model is probably being implemented in BBL-CA right now,so there might be some truth to it how long can it last.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Time for cricket to go from golf to a real sport. Get rid of long, boring Tests and ODIs. Play T20 leagues all year round with international friendlies and World T20 every four years. We can have ACC Champions League and Asia Cup instead of UEFA Champions League and Euros.

IPL will be La Liga
Natwest (need to change name) will be EPL
BBL will be Bundesliga
CPL will be Serie A
PSL will be Ligue 1
BPL will be Primeira Liga
Ram Slam (need to chane name) will be Argentine Primera
SLPL will be Eredivisie

No thank you. That is the worst suggestion ever and honestly, I respect you as a poster and I did not expect this.

That is the only reason I do NOT watch Football. All mainstream football is played between different clubs in different leagues with nobody having an personal association because there's no patriotism. I don't know for sure, but I bet the players don't even give it their all because nobody can actually "love" their club. Sure, you can be proud of it and all but it doesn't come close to playing for your country.

To top it off, you can never even hold a team to be your passion or what you've dreamed about your entire life because you can't be loyal to one team. The moment you get a better offer, you switch.

You will kill the sport if you do the same with cricket. Twenty20 isn't even classified as cricket for most fans.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

IPL auction is a joke. It is just like a lottery system. It has nothing to do with the performances. This year's lucky winner is Ben Stokes. He should already start thinking about how to spend that money and forget about giving his 100% on the field. Nobody gives a damn anyway.

My whole hearted congrats and best wishes to Ben Stokes. You just did it.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Time for cricket to go from golf to a real sport. Get rid of long, boring Tests and ODIs. Play T20 leagues all year round with international friendlies and World T20 every four years. We can have ACC Champions League and Asia Cup instead of UEFA Champions League and Euros.

IPL will be La Liga
Natwest (need to change name) will be EPL
BBL will be Bundesliga
CPL will be Serie A
PSL will be Ligue 1
BPL will be Primeira Liga
Ram Slam (need to chane name) will be Argentine Primera
SLPL will be Eredivisie

You forgot USA

USA will be Major League Cricketball

 

[Convict]

Highest paid Rugby player gets 1.4 million £ per year.

So cricket pays you more to rugby now in UK!

Test cricketers have earned more than the top rugby players in England for sometime.

Problem is that there are only 12 players with those national contracts.

 

[Convict]

The thing is, IPL and Tests are products aimed at two different audiences Casual entertainment Vs Enthusiasts. Of course, there is a huge overlap between the two..

Even the casual cricket follower watched tests / followed it back then beacause THERE WAS NO OTHER FORMAT.. When ODIs started we saw the shift too. More people were brought into the fray , especially in the SC.. People who normally wouldn't have had the time for TESTs started following cricket. T20 is a further expansion of that idea, to bring more people into cricket.

No matter what TEST cricket does, its not going to attract this "new audience", who would've never been into cricket otherwise in the first place.. So what ICC must aim for is to retain the exclusively "enthusiast" fan base of test cricket and the overlapping bits from the "casual follower" audience..

These direct comparisons to TESTS and T20's audiences is very misleading .

It will in Aus.

 

[Executioner]

With all due respect I hate the IPL auction system

What it does it gives some players too much money while others get less. Someone like Fizz, or Warner will be paid much less than someone like Mills or Morris.


The system should be such that better players get good amount of money, infact huge if necessary but someone like stokes getting 2 million pounds is like a bit too much. I am sure even kohli doesn't get that much from RCB, for cricket purposes alone.

And there are some players who dont even get picked despite their quality.

Oh, I would as a cricket enthusiast absolutely hate how some no-name Indian cricket will get mega-rich without doing anything. What this does it make the others around him jealous. Its like a lottery, you get lucky and the others around you just watch with their mouth wide open. Infact, no young cricketer should ever become much richer than an international star because of some domestic exploits which even pundits dont know.

IPL is a brilliant tournament, but the auction system is utter rubbish and players aren't paid what they deserve. Some paid less, others paid too much. Not the same scenario in Football where the marquee players like CR and Messi definitely get paid a big amount and the others are paid well too

 

[Executioner]

TBH, a draft system would be ideal.

The likes of Dhoni, Kohli, Gayle, ABDV, Warner, Starc will be prized 2 million.
Maxwell, Malinga, Narine, Rohit around 1.5 million

and so on.

 

[Rayyman]

No thank you. That is the worst suggestion ever and honestly, I respect you as a poster and I did not expect this.

That is the only reason I do NOT watch Football. All mainstream football is played between different clubs in different leagues with nobody having an personal association because there's no patriotism. I don't know for sure, but I bet the players don't even give it their all because nobody can actually "love" their club. Sure, you can be proud of it and all but it doesn't come close to playing for your country.

To top it off, you can never even hold a team to be your passion or what you've dreamed about your entire life because you can't be loyal to one team. The moment you get a better offer, you switch.

You will kill the sport if you do the same with cricket. Twenty20 isn't even classified as cricket for most fans.

There is part of me that still wants the longer formats exist; But we have to accept that none of kids under 10 years of age like this type of cricket. 80% of them like T20 better. This will only kill Tests and ODIs because these kids are the future.

Yes, in football most players aren't loyal, but in other sports like Basketball, the players are. Lebron James gave up $30 million dollars just to go back to his hometown of Cleveland. I doubt a Pakistan player like say Sarfraz Ahmed would leave Karachi for Mohali. The players can grow to love the franchise by living permanently in that city. Something that doesn't happen in cricket b/c of the short term of the tournament. The meaningless JAM T20is would have more meaning as international friendlies to qualify for World Cup. Also Associates will get more chances this way and the tournament can be developed further with less focus on Champions Trophy and ODI WC. This will make WT20 the prestigious event. 2014 WT20 final was already shown on ESPN in U.S.A.
If you didn't know ESPN is the best provider for sports in U.S. and around 70% of men watch it. The growth for cricket will happen in America and this could provide a lot of money to ICC too. T20 is not dying and neither is cricket. T20 will only grow the sport further and much so if Tests and ODIs are scrapped completely.

 

[LastManstanding]

With all due respect I hate the IPL auction system

What it does it gives some players too much money while others get less. Someone like Fizz, or Warner will be paid much less than someone like Mills or Morris.


The system should be such that better players get good amount of money, infact huge if necessary but someone like stokes getting 2 million pounds is like a bit too much. I am sure even kohli doesn't get that much from RCB, for cricket purposes alone.

And there are some players who dont even get picked despite their quality.

Oh, I would as a cricket enthusiast absolutely hate how some no-name Indian cricket will get mega-rich without doing anything. What this does it make the others around him jealous. Its like a lottery, you get lucky and the others around you just watch with their mouth wide open. Infact, no young cricketer should ever become much richer than an international star because of some domestic exploits which even pundits dont know.

IPL is a brilliant tournament, but the auction system is utter rubbish and players aren't paid what they deserve. Some paid less, others paid too much. Not the same scenario in Football where the marquee players like CR and Messi definitely get paid a big amount and the others are paid well too

You are not alone bro. It's the story of the rest of the world. Everyone is jealous of these no name Indian cricketers earning more than their respective country's superstars.

Just few words of advice. SUCK IT UP.

 

[Syed1]

TBH whoever paid that much money for Ben Stokes is in store for a huge shock. Stokes is very, very over-hyped. Even fixers Sharjeel and Latif ripped him apart in his own home, and who can forget what Carlos "Remember the name" Brathwaite did to him in the WC final.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The thing is that Bangalore really have no idea how to list manage if they are playing a player of Mills' dubious quality that money.

Doesn't matter dude.

RCB gonna choke regardless.

The eternal chokers of IPL led by the 3 mega chokers: supreme choker ABD, finals choker Gayle and somehow will manage to choke Kohli.

This is not the first time Bangalore has paid a fortune to a dud player: They did it for Saurabh Tiwari and over the hill Yuvi in the past.

Dunno about this Mills guy but I am skeptical.

 

[smasher1980]

I dont understand why people have an issue with what the cricketers get paid...thats life...it happen in all professions...and cricket is a profession for the cricketers...they dont have 9-5 jobs and just play for fun on weekends. If they get paid more, then good luck to them.

 

[ExpressPacer]

There is part of me that still wants the longer formats exist; But we have to accept that none of kids under 10 years of age like this type of cricket. 80% of them like T20 better. This will only kill Tests and ODIs because these kids are the future.

Yes, in football most players aren't loyal, but in other sports like Basketball, the players are. Lebron James gave up $30 million dollars just to go back to his hometown of Cleveland. I doubt a Pakistan player like say Sarfraz Ahmed would leave Karachi for Mohali. The players can grow to love the franchise by living permanently in that city. Something that doesn't happen in cricket b/c of the short term of the tournament. The meaningless JAM T20is would have more meaning as international friendlies to qualify for World Cup. Also Associates will get more chances this way and the tournament can be developed further with less focus on Champions Trophy and ODI WC. This will make WT20 the prestigious event. 2014 WT20 final was already shown on ESPN in U.S.A.
If you didn't know ESPN is the best provider for sports in U.S. and around 70% of men watch it. The growth for cricket will happen in America and this could provide a lot of money to ICC too. T20 is not dying and neither is cricket. T20 will only grow the sport further and much so if Tests and ODIs are scrapped completely.

If an off shoot of cricket is the way for cricket to grow then let me assure you, cricket will die the day Tests are scrapped. I will stop watching the game and I know many others who will. Bowling will finish and soon we will just see bowling machines throwing balls to batsmen with a huge chunk of wood in their hands. Test cricket is real cricket. Test cricket is in fact vital to the success of Twenty20 cricket because it is what breeds real cricketers. Even at club level.

As for loyalty, let me make it clear, someone like Sarfraz will go from Karachi to Mohali or even Jerusalem if he is given even 10K more. You see, these guys are from under privileged backgrounds. And even if they weren't, rejecting a 30 million dollar offer sounds pretty insane and it for sure will not happen all the time. As for Kobe, I follow Basketball enough to know that he let those 30 million dollars go because he was already established as a player and making millions regardless. Kobe is a legend of the game. Lets hold our horses and bring it down to a smaller level and quote examples of someone who is not a legend of the game.

 

[smasher1980]

In KP's case, its the typical 'sour grapes' scenario. I love and respect KP as a cricketer, but making such comments is in bad taste. There are a lot of cricketers who are not in prime form and still earning a lot thru the private leagues.

 

[Pollack]

K Petersen makes the least sense always but not here. A welcome change.

 

[Executioner]

You are not alone bro. It's the story of the rest of the world. Everyone is jealous of these no name Indian cricketers earning more than their respective country's superstars.

Just few words of advice. SUCK IT UP.

How about your own no name domestic folks earning more than proven domestic/international players?

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

The jealousy towards IPL is off the charts on this forum.

For what T20 is, IPL is as good a showcase for it as any other.

On topic, reports about death of test cricket are greatly exaggerated. It has a huge, growing legion of fans and they love it for its drama. Not going to go away.

 

[BeautifulGame]

How about your own no name domestic folks earning more than proven domestic/international players?

That's simply because demand and supply .
And makes it greatly benifiticial for India afterall it's an Indian domestic product so these players deserve it.

 

[JaDed]

With all due respect I hate the IPL auction system

What it does it gives some players too much money while others get less. Someone like Fizz, or Warner will be paid much less than someone like Mills or Morris.


The system should be such that better players get good amount of money, infact huge if necessary but someone like stokes getting 2 million pounds is like a bit too much. I am sure even kohli doesn't get that much from RCB, for cricket purposes alone.

And there are some players who dont even get picked despite their quality.

Oh, I would as a cricket enthusiast absolutely hate how some no-name Indian cricket will get mega-rich without doing anything. What this does it make the others around him jealous. Its like a lottery, you get lucky and the others around you just watch with their mouth wide open. Infact, no young cricketer should ever become much richer than an international star because of some domestic exploits which even pundits dont know.

IPL is a brilliant tournament, but the auction system is utter rubbish and players aren't paid what they deserve. Some paid less, others paid too much. Not the same scenario in Football where the marquee players like CR and Messi definitely get paid a big amount and the others are paid well too

TBH, a draft system would be ideal.

The likes of Dhoni, Kohli, Gayle, ABDV, Warner, Starc will be prized 2 million.
Maxwell, Malinga, Narine, Rohit around 1.5 million

and so on.

I dislike the auction system as well but the draft system is good if every 17 year old(Indian passout) or someone fresh from college is put up for auction even in that case u wud have issues with "no-name Indian cricketer" getting mega rich.

The problem is you are pursuing the idealistic sides of two systems ,put the draft but let no name Indian cricketers be put in it,so the draft should work like putting up only existing players?How is that a draft system with a proper purpose?(American Professional sports)

Indian cricket system/Sports lobby/Channels have worked hard to get to this point where cricket is a legit career choice not a "dream".Agree on the auction i hate it but many noname Indian cricketers like Jhadav are much better IPL players than Rahane/Pujara.

 

[Executioner]

That's simply because demand and supply .
And makes it greatly benifiticial for India afterall it's an Indian domestic product so these players deserve it.

Imagine 2 young batsman, equally good but one gets an IPL contract for 2 crore and the other doesnt. it becomes kind of lottery

 

[rhony]

This is Kevin's way of consoling himself that he isn't missing much after getting fired. He is also rubbing his nose on those Snooty british admininstrators that Test cricket isn't as important as they think it is.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

I don't even get how the IPL is so popular. It's basically popcorn vs test cricket which is the real deal. Across all fronts.

There's never been a shortage of people who couldn't understand why anyone else could have a valid opinion contrary to theirs.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

TBH, a draft system would be ideal.

The likes of Dhoni, Kohli, Gayle, ABDV, Warner, Starc will be prized 2 million.
Maxwell, Malinga, Narine, Rohit around 1.5 million

and so on.

What rubbish.

Why should you decide who will be paid what when you have no stake in whether your verdict is correct; no incentive to get it right and no reward for doing so.

The players and teams in IPL auction have a lot at stake so let them decide who is worth what then some guy valuing players according to how famous they are.

 

[CricketAnalyst]

The thing is, IPL and Tests are products aimed at two different audiences Casual entertainment Vs Enthusiasts. Of course, there is a huge overlap between the two..

Even the casual cricket follower watched tests / followed it back then beacause THERE WAS NO OTHER FORMAT.. When ODIs started we saw the shift too. More people were brought into the fray , especially in the SC.. People who normally wouldn't have had the time for TESTs started following cricket. T20 is a further expansion of that idea, to bring more people into cricket.

No matter what TEST cricket does, its not going to attract this "new audience", who would've never been into cricket otherwise in the first place.. So what ICC must aim for is to retain the exclusively "enthusiast" fan base of test cricket and the overlapping bits from the "casual follower" audience..

These direct comparisons to TESTS and T20's audiences is very misleading .

It's not that. It's T20 fans vs Test fans. If you actually knew, T20 supporters are no more casual. They just like T20 more and you need to understand that because we are majority.

 

[Executioner]

What rubbish.

Why should you decide who will be paid what when you have no stake in whether your verdict is correct; no incentive to get it right and no reward for doing so.

The players and teams in IPL auction have a lot at stake so let them decide who is worth what then some guy valuing players according to how famous they are.

In draft system its the players who decide their prize

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Test cricketers have earned more than the top rugby players in England for sometime.

Problem is that there are only 12 players with those national contracts.

Why so? Rugby is far more popular to cricket in UK.

How much does top rugby players make per year in AUS domestic leagues which is by far the no.1 sport in Aus!

 

[Sarfarazian92]

Time for cricket to go from golf to a real sport. Get rid of long, boring Tests and ODIs. Play T20 leagues all year round with international friendlies and World T20 every four years. We can have ACC Champions League and Asia Cup instead of UEFA Champions League and Euros.

IPL will be La Liga
Natwest (need to change name) will be EPL
BBL will be Bundesliga
CPL will be Serie A
PSL will be Ligue 1
BPL will be Primeira Liga
Ram Slam (need to chane name) will be Argentine Primera
SLPL will be Eredivisie

Thora ziada hogya

 

[fitCricFan]

When he was raking it big, he was willing to let go of the England team to be in IPL. Now that he has been dumped from both he suddenly has his ephipany.

 

[Zahid87]

Imagine 2 young batsman, equally good but one gets an IPL contract for 2 crore and the other doesnt. it becomes kind of lottery

Well, thats life. I know people in other lines of work who earn way more or less than someone of similar ability doing the same job as them. It happens.

The ability of these leagues to promote their own players is paramount. Its the one redeeming factor to all the excess. If a unknown Indian player suddenly gets picked, and becomes a millionaire overnight, then great. Its a fairytale. It makes sport.

You picked football as an example in one of your previous posts on the topic. Okay - look at the Premier League. Its the richest domestic league in Europe. Clubs have to pay a premium to sign players because of their wealth, and often pay players more as well to entice them to move. Look at Paul Pogba - he would never have earned the same wage or cost the same fee if Manchester United or any other English team were not interested.

When it comes to top English players, well, they cost much more (because of their scarcity, and a clubs need to have at least one top english player in the squad), and hence probably even get paid more, than when a EPL club would sign a foreign player of similar ability. The market decides, just like with the IPL auction.

Its a different set of circumstances which leads to this, but the disparity is the same.

 

[LastManstanding]

How about your own no name domestic folks earning more than proven domestic/international players?

Well if franchise owners see enough potential in them to spend their money, who are we to complain?

And as posters said above, who decides how much is a player worth for? Someone who is actually spending his hard earned money will have much better idea whether a player is worth investing so much.

 

[princeuk]

The auction system makes it so darn unfair, not based on merit or performances at all, I personally feel that someone like let's say Eion Morgan deserves more money than stokes as Morgan is a proven performer time and again and has also played the IPL before with good results so surely someone like that deserves more than stokes.

Potentially Ben stokes can play in only part of the IPL and make far more money than someone who plays in the IPL for a full season, doesn't strike me as fair. And regardless of how stokes performs, good or bad he is going to make far more than anyone else's performances who may be superior.

 

[Square Drive]

Lol @ people saying Tests and/or ODIs should get scrapped.

Horrible idea.

 

[Slog]

Why so? Rugby is far more popular to cricket in UK.

How much does top rugby players make per year in AUS domestic leagues which is by far the no.1 sport in Aus!

Since when was Rugby more popular than cricket in UK? Let alone far more popular?

 

[nighthawk23]

The auction system makes it so darn unfair, not based on merit or performances at all, I personally feel that someone like let's say Eion Morgan deserves more money than stokes as Morgan is a proven performer time and again and has also played the IPL before with good results so surely someone like that deserves more than stokes.

Potentially Ben stokes can play in only part of the IPL and make far more money than someone who plays in the IPL for a full season, doesn't strike me as fair. And regardless of how stokes performs, good or bad he is going to make far more than anyone else's performances who may be superior.

Players only get paid for the games where they are available for selection.

 

[Barragan]

Just looking at the numbers.

Tymal Mills is $1.2 mil, Miller $1.9 mil, Morris $1 mil and Faulkner $1.1 mil.

Those guys pretty much don't play any Tests.

These guys do:

Williamson $89k, Khawaja $149k, Southee $373k, Amla $149k and Rabada $746.

He does have a point.

But it is also understandable why those guys aren't going for millions.

 

[English August]

I don't even get how the IPL is so popular. It's basically popcorn vs test cricket which is the real deal. Across all fronts.

It's not that hard to understand if you believe in what CLR James said about cricket many decades ago: "What do they know of cricket who only cricket know."

In our real lives we all manage to balance two (and more), sometimes conflicting, thoughts at the same time. Cricket is but a reflection of what we do with the rest of our lives.

Every morning, we get ready and go to office / work / uni, and do serious / complex work that requires great deal of concentration and focus. In the evening, we relax, have some fun, take it easy.

We watch serious movies like Schindler's List, but we also watch timepass Govinda / David Dhawan movies.

We read serious writers like Mark Twain / George Orwell, but then we also read lighter stuff: casual crime thrillers, comics, etc. We also read P G Wodehouse, which is excellent but NOT serious.

We eat healthy food like salads but also eminently unhealthy stuff like burgers, pizzas, paranthas.

We have casual / fun conversations with friends and family; but also very serious conversations about life, death, philosophy etc.

I can go on, but you get the point.

If all this is possible, and we all experience it everyday, why is it so hard to imagine a world where both Test cricket and IPL can co-exist? I'm a huge fan of Test cricket and have been following it for 20+ years, but have had no problem in accepting, even enjoying, IPL right from day 1.

And as Kohli has shown, you need to be a seriously good cricketer to succeed in both.

 

[Convict]

Why so? Rugby is far more popular to cricket in UK.

How much does top rugby players make per year in AUS domestic leagues which is by far the no.1 sport in Aus!

Michael Clarke earned more than an entire rugby league salary cap.

Even Mitch Marsh earns more than any AFL player (from his national contract)

 

[Rayyman]

I am pretty sure that fans would rather go to an IPL match than a Test match.

 

[adit_sh]

I am pretty sure that fans would rather go to an IPL match than a Test match.

unfortunately !!!

 

[Indiafan]

Imagine 2 young batsman, equally good but one gets an IPL contract for 2 crore and the other doesnt. it becomes kind of lottery

thats still better than neither getting anything

 

[jusarrived]

In KP's case, its the typical 'sour grapes' scenario. I love and respect KP as a cricketer, but making such comments is in bad taste. There are a lot of cricketers who are not in prime form and still earning a lot thru the private leagues.

Hes actually in Favour of players getting paid .

 

[Swanny]

The IPL should introduce a salary cap for foreign players only.

 

[Executioner]

thats still better than neither getting anything

how about both getting a good amount with particularly the better player getting double. Instead of one going as much as 5 crore per say.

 

[LastManstanding]

how about both getting a good amount with particularly the better player getting double. Instead of one going as much as 5 crore per say.

Talent is a subjective term. If someone believes Rohit Sharma is a bigger talent than AB and can win him matches in pressure situation, and is willing to pay more for potential, whats wrong with that?

 

[JaDed]

how about both getting a good amount with particularly the better player getting double. Instead of one going as much as 5 crore per say.

What is a good player? Im assuming u r saying Puajara in T20 should get more than jhadav(unknown till last year) ? Thats not how this works.

 

[Executioner]

Talent is a subjective term. If someone believes Rohit Sharma is a bigger talent than AB and can win him matches in pressure situation, and is willing to pay more for potential, whats wrong with that?

not talking about established player

What is a good player? Im assuming u r saying Puajara in T20 should get more than jhadav(unknown till last year) ? Thats not how this works.

Not really. Pujara is ordinary in LOIs. Jadhav is good.

But think about M Ashwin who was paid a lot last IPL, didnt too well and many indians said their domestics had better talents than him, who deserved an IPL contract. That was my point.

That is just my point of view. I think it becomes a bit of a lottery. Great for the one who wins, not really for the others.