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"Labuschagne is probably the No.1 batsman in world cricket, albeit in the Test format" : Mark Waugh

One-day international great Mark Waugh has backed Marnus Labuschagne to prosper against India, declaring Australia's man of the moment has the technique to counter the expected spinning pitches that await in the three-match one-day series.

Fresh from a record-breaking home Test campaign, Labuschagne and the Australians have been given only days to adjust to the challenging conditions of the sub-continent.

The tourists have arrived in Mumbai, ahead of Tuesday's opening clash, with Labuschagne included for the first time in the one-day international squad.

There are have been three changes to the Australian top-order from the first-choice XI of last year's World Cup and Labuschagne has a chance to forge a permanent spot, with a view to the 2023 World Cup, to be held in India.

Waugh, who handled spinning decks with aplomb while amassing 8500 one-day international runs, said he expected Labuschagne to be used at No. 4.

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"It's great to see Marnus Labuschagne picked in the one-day squad, actually. His form at the domestic level has been very good. I think he averages in the high 30s with a strike rate of around 90 - he can play one-day cricket and he is in form," he said.

"He is probably the No.1 batsman in world cricket, albeit in the Test format, but I think he can carry that on into the white-ball format as well. I think he has got to bat in the top four. You would imagine (Aaron) Finch and (David) Warner would open, Steve Smith at three and Labuschagne at four. I think he is ideally suited at four because he can play spin well, he is a good sweeper of the ball.

"He is going to get tested out, obviously, by the spin of India, by the likes of (Kuldeep) Yadav and (Yuzvendra) Chahal, (Ravindra) Jadeja, those sorts of guys. But a batsman in form going to India is exactly what you need. I think he will go really well."

Labuschange posted a record 896 runs across five Test matches this summer to leave selectors with no other option but to pick him for the 50-over format. But it should be remembered he emerged as a potential international player through his form with Queensland in the domestic one-day competition. He has a combined 926 runs at 51.44 in his past three campaigns.

Waugh, also a former selector and now a commentator on Fox Cricket, said changes were required by the Australians after a World Cup that ended in a semi-final defeat to England.

Glenn Maxwell and Marcus Stoinis failed to have the impact they and the team had wanted, while Usman Khawaja was also overlooked, in a sign the selectors believe he and Steve Smith are not a good batting mix in the top order.

"The changes were probably warranted, no Khawaja as well, so that's three of the top six not there from the World Cup, which is a little bit of a hole to fill," Waugh said.

"I think the selectors were looking for more consistent performances from a few of those guys and they are willing to give some other guys a bit of a chance in the middle order, in particular."

The Australians claimed a 3-2 series win in India in March last year, their first ODI series victory since January 2017 and the fourth on Indian soil, the last coming in 2009.

Waugh believes victory against Virat Kohli's men is again possible, particularly as Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins and Josh Hazlewood are three pacemen "the Indians won't be overly comfortable against".

AUSTRALIAN SQUAD

Aaron Finch (c), Ashton Agar, Alex Carey (vc), Pat Cummins (vc), Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Marnus Labuschagne, Kane Richardson, D'Arcy Short, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Ashton Turner, David Warner, Adam Zampa.

SCHEDULE

First ODI: January 14, Mumbai (D/N)
Second ODI: January 17, Rajkot (D/N)
Third ODI: January 19, Bengaluru (D/N)

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...-indian-conditions-waugh-20200110-p53qec.html
 
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He'll have to do it for at least another couple of years to lay claim for the honor.
 
Putting too much pressure on this guy now.
 
You can't say that someone is no:3 best batsmen, chances are you will say that he is one of the best batsman or he's no:1, it's figuratively and not literally. 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 doesn't matter, the fact is it doesn't happen often that a player arrives on scene and in less than 12 months is known worldwide and reaches top ranking, Labuschagne has done that and it's a massive massive accomplishment. So rather than going after Mark Waugh on why he called him no:1 let's hope and wish that Labuschagne performs well, world cricket will only get better with more champion cricketers.
 
He is going by "bolnay mai kiya harj hai" strategy. But then its his considered opinion based upon the sort of challenges ML has faced in recent times.
 
That's the same as Razzaq saying Ahmed Shehzad is better than Tendulkar.

Ex-cricketers do have their favorites and like to hype up those favorites.

Labu needs to prove a lot. Has no credentials outside AUS, especially none in Asia and the UAE. Let's decide where he stands after 2-3 tours each to Ind, SL and PAK.
 
It's like saying Mayank Agarwal is the no.1 player in the world but only in test cricket!!!
 
What can I say? Guy is yet to score a century outside of Australia and he is being said the best batsman in test cricket
 
Different standards for SENA and Asian players but sadly many PPers fall for this discrimination again and again. SENA players don't even need to play in Asia but will still be called legendary but our batsmen who don't average 50+ in each of those 4 countries are rated as HTBs :facepalm:. No other sport carries this kind of inherent bias.
 
Different standards for SENA and Asian players but sadly many PPers fall for this discrimination again and again. SENA players don't even need to play in Asia but will still be called legendary but our batsmen who don't average 50+ in each of those 4 countries are rated as HTBs :facepalm:. No other sport carries this kind of inherent bias.

yes. inferiority complex. We somehow wait for our batsmen to do well over and over again in SENA to grant the recognition. Punter who perennially failed in India but for one century. Yet he was rate so high by them. Same with Warne.
 
If Lillee can be in the GOAT race after dodging tough SC condittions his whole career
If Greg Chappell can be in the GOAT race despite doing nothing noteworthy against spin or reverse swing
If Anderson is an ATG despite having so little impact in the SC while same courtesy isn't extended to an Ashwin
If Du Plessis is a modern great despite faring as badly in Asia as :hafeez did in SENA
If no question can be raised about Ponting who averaged 21 in India across 15+ tests and funnily as per some on the same level as Sachin or Kohli
If Williamson gets free pass despite doing so little in India and Sri Lanka
If Bond is a demigod despite never setting foot in this part of the world
If Rabada is best in the world after getting violated in India so many times, even by Rohit and Jadeja

What stops them from rating this new Aussie kid so highly. I will go a step ahead and say Labu>:sachin+:vk+:inzi+:yk+:sanga+:jaya
 
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yes. inferiority complex. We somehow wait for our batsmen to do well over and over again in SENA to grant the recognition. Punter who perennially failed in India but for one century. Yet he was rate so high by them. Same with Warne.

Exacty, can name 30 such cricketers who would be made fun of if they had represented one of the SC teams. Look at the ICC Hall of Fame, guys like Gooch, Gower, Rod Marsh, Simpson are there. From SC you need to be Sunny, Sachin, Imran, Wasim, Murali level player to get the nod.
 
Exacty, can name 30 such cricketers who would be made fun of if they had represented one of the SC teams. Look at the ICC Hall of Fame, guys like Gooch, Gower, Rod Marsh, Simpson are there. From SC you need to be Sunny, Sachin, Imran, Wasim, Murali level player to get the nod.

Simpson did well in subcontinent.
 
If Lillee can be in the GOAT race after dodging tough SC condittions his whole career
If Greg Chappell can be in the GOAT race despite doing nothing noteworthy against spin or reverse swing
If Anderson is an ATG despite having so little impact in the SC while same courtesy isn't extended to an Ashwin
If Du Plessis is a modern great despite faring as badly in Asia as :hafeez did in SENA
If no question can be raised about Ponting who averaged 21 in India across 15+ tests and funnily as per some on the same level as Sachin or Kohli
If Williamson gets free pass despite doing so little in India and Sri Lanka
If Bond is a demigod despite never setting foot in this part of the world
If Rabada is best in the world after getting violated in India so many times, even by Rohit and Jadeja

What stops them from rating this new Aussie kid so highly. I will go a step ahead and say Labu>:sachin+:vk+:inzi+:yk+:sanga+:jaya

Greg Chappell did good in subcontinent,so it's his problem he rarely toured to subcontinent? he did not toured to India the fact he was suspended due to Packer cricket and those days how many matches India played against Australia.
I agree ponting didnt do well in india but he did well in his last 2 tours he averaged 45,did great job in srilanka in 1999 tour where every australian batsmen didnt do well but ponting played murali very well and still averages better than dravid and kallis in srilanka.
Remember in 2006 when australia toured bangladesh in first test it was gilchrist who saved them from having follow on but during chasing 300 runs it was ponting who saved defeat from bangladesh.
So according to you Ponting is not great,it show how your knowledge is.
 
If Lillee can be in the GOAT race after dodging tough SC condittions his whole career
If Greg Chappell can be in the GOAT race despite doing nothing noteworthy against spin or reverse swing
If Anderson is an ATG despite having so little impact in the SC while same courtesy isn't extended to an Ashwin
If Du Plessis is a modern great despite faring as badly in Asia as :hafeez did in SENA
If no question can be raised about Ponting who averaged 21 in India across 15+ tests and funnily as per some on the same level as Sachin or Kohli
If Williamson gets free pass despite doing so little in India and Sri Lanka
If Bond is a demigod despite never setting foot in this part of the world
If Rabada is best in the world after getting violated in India so many times, even by Rohit and Jadeja

What stops them from rating this new Aussie kid so highly. I will go a step ahead and say Labu>:sachin+:vk+:inzi+:yk+:sanga+:jaya

Rabada bowled well in last tour but there were no one to support him when you have trundlers like Philander and inexperienced bowler like Nortge.
He was highest wicket taker from South Africa in this series.
He is not a failure in Asia,he bowled well in Sri Lanka last year.
Rabada's career is not over yet let's judge him at the end of his career.
 
Greg Chappell did good in subcontinent,so it's his problem he rarely toured to subcontinent? he did not toured to India the fact he was suspended due to Packer cricket and those days how many matches India played against Australia.
I agree ponting didnt do well in india but he did well in his last 2 tours he averaged 45,did great job in srilanka in 1999 tour where every australian batsmen didnt do well but ponting played murali very well and still averages better than dravid and kallis in srilanka.
Remember in 2006 when australia toured bangladesh in first test it was gilchrist who saved them from having follow on but during chasing 300 runs it was ponting who saved defeat from bangladesh.
So according to you Ponting is not great,it show how your knowledge is.

And one point to add Greg Chappell did well against reverse wing when he played pioneers of reverse swing against Sarfaraz Nawaz and Imran Khan.
 
What is his record outside of Australian concrete slabs?
 
Greg Chappell did good in subcontinent,so it's his problem he rarely toured to subcontinent? he did not toured to India the fact he was suspended due to Packer cricket and those days how many matches India played against Australia.
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Don't go by numbers. Understand the context.

Greg Chappell never set foot in India during his test career.

Greg Chappell played 4 out of his 87 tests in the subcontinent.

3 against Pakistan in 1980: Failed miserably in the turning pitch at Karachi which Pakistan won. Remaining 2 tests were high scoring draws (617 meets 382/2 decl at Faisalabad and the Lahore snoozefest with spinners rendered toothless, where 1200+ runs were scored across 3 innings and not once was there an all out displayed on the scorecard !!!)

1 against minnow Sri Lanka in 1983 where he scored 66 in an innings of 514/4. Arjuna Ranatunga was Lanka's 1st change bowler and there were 4 other hacks who would make Dodda Ganesh and Reetinder Sodhi look like mythical beasts.

Explain to me how Greg was an all conditions player based on these 4 tests in Asia. Would Pujara or Mahela escape scrutiny if they played 5% of their matches in SENA and rest all in Asia. Would they be compared with Sachin and Sobers the way Greg has been?

Not just him, look at Barry Richards' career and his status in the cricket world. Or Lillee.

I agree ponting didnt do well in india but he did well in his last 2 tours he averaged 45,did great job in srilanka in 1999 tour where every australian batsmen didnt do well but ponting played murali very well and still averages better than dravid and kallis in srilanka.
Remember in 2006 when australia toured bangladesh in first test it was gilchrist who saved them from having follow on but during chasing 300 runs it was ponting who saved defeat from bangladesh.
So according to you Ponting is not great,it show how your knowledge is

I won't cite Mugabe's Zimbabwe or 2000s Bangladesh to show some batsman in great light, especially when talking about greats. Where did I say Ponting wasn't great, don't put words in my mouth. Here I am talking about how flaws of SENA players aren't highlighted the way it is done with the brown skinned guys.
 
Hussey had a better start than Labu in test format, when he came to Asia he didn't find it too easy. Let us wait and watch what this kid does. But of course it doesn't matter for experts, even if he scores ducks every single innings in 2022 India all of that will be brushed under the carpet. SENA privilege.
 
Don't go by numbers. Understand the context.

Greg Chappell never set foot in India during his test career.

I already said he was suspended due to playing Packer cricket.

Greg Chappell played 4 out of his 87 tests in the subcontinent.

3 against Pakistan in 1980: Failed miserably in the turning pitch at Karachi which Pakistan won. Remaining 2 tests were high scoring draws (617 meets 382/2 decl at Faisalabad and the Lahore snoozefest with spinners rendered toothless, where 1200+ runs were scored across 3 innings and not once was there an all out displayed on the scorecard !!!)

1 against minnow Sri Lanka in 1983 where he scored 66 in an innings of 514/4. Arjuna Ranatunga was Lanka's 1st change bowler and there were 4 other hacks who would make Dodda Ganesh and Reetinder Sodhi look like mythical beasts.

Explain to me how Greg was an all conditions player based on these 4 tests in Asia. Would Pujara or Mahela escape scrutiny if they played 5% of their matches in SENA and rest all in Asia. Would they be compared with Sachin and Sobers the way Greg has been?

He rarely got chance to play in subcontinent so you will degrade him.

Not just him, look at Barry Richards' career and his status in the cricket world. Or Lillee.



I won't cite Mugabe's Zimbabwe or 2000s Bangladesh to show some batsman in great light, especially when talking about greats. Where did I say Ponting wasn't great, don't put words in my mouth. Here I am talking about how flaws of SENA players aren't highlighted the way it is done with the brown skinned guys.

Everyone has their own flaws but it's less compared to subcontinent guys except few.
Where Newzealand, SouthAfrican players get praise as compared to subcontinent guys?
I agree with you England overrate their players.
 
I can see Laboo doing very well in India, he has the right technique and temperament to survive there. Australia are a red hot team right now !
 
8-10 away tons and then this talk may make any sense.
 
Hussey had a better start than Labu in test format, when he came to Asia he didn't find it too easy. Let us wait and watch what this kid does. But of course it doesn't matter for experts, even if he scores ducks every single innings in 2022 India all of that will be brushed under the carpet. SENA privilege.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/5939.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

Have a look at Husseys stats in Asia

Averages 44 in India

Averages 80 in Bangladesh

Averages 92 in Srilanka

:sarf
 
Labu certainly is the brightest young test batsman right now. Even ahead of bobby Azam . That's quite impressive actually .
 
If Lillee can be in the GOAT race after dodging tough SC condittions his whole career
If Greg Chappell can be in the GOAT race despite doing nothing noteworthy against spin or reverse swing
If Anderson is an ATG despite having so little impact in the SC while same courtesy isn't extended to an Ashwin
If Du Plessis is a modern great despite faring as badly in Asia as :hafeez did in SENA
If no question can be raised about Ponting who averaged 21 in India across 15+ tests and funnily as per some on the same level as Sachin or Kohli
If Williamson gets free pass despite doing so little in India and Sri Lanka
If Bond is a demigod despite never setting foot in this part of the world
If Rabada is best in the world after getting violated in India so many times, even by Rohit and Jadeja

What stops them from rating this new Aussie kid so highly. I will go a step ahead and say Labu>:sachin+:vk+:inzi+:yk+:sanga+:jaya

Very well put. This is some next level overhyping going on. Dude doesn't even have an away ton for crying out loud.
 
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Labu certainly is the brightest young test batsman right now. Even ahead of bobby Azam . That's quite impressive actually .

They are like neck to neck, while Labu has better temperament and more grit Babar is more flamboyant and arguably more talented. But yes on current form I too think he is just slightly ahead of Babar.
 
They are like neck to neck, while Labu has better temperament and more grit Babar is more flamboyant and arguably more talented. But yes on current form I too think he is just slightly ahead of Babar.

Next gen Kohli vs Smith rivalry in the making??

But TBH, Mark Waugh is exaggerating greatly - Labuschagne is yet to be tested on away tours on wickets which aren’t exactly flat - the same criteria which holds back Babar Azam from being included in the Big 4 applies even more to Labuschagne
 
India will put him into place as they have the best bowling attack in the world.
 
Next gen Kohli vs Smith rivalry in the making??

But TBH, Mark Waugh is exaggerating greatly - Labuschagne is yet to be tested on away tours on wickets which aren’t exactly flat - the same criteria which holds back Babar Azam from being included in the Big 4 applies even more to Labuschagne

They still have a lot to prove bro IMO. Babar despite recent heights still doesn't have a good looking average by his standard while Labu is basically untested in most conditions. I will wait for a few more serieses to see if they are really next gen Smith and Kohli.

I totally agree that this is hyping of biblical proportions by Mark.
 
Too early to make statements like this.

Labuschagne has to conquer Asia to be close to the best.
 
Hussey had a better start than Labu in test format, when he came to Asia he didn't find it too easy. Let us wait and watch what this kid does. But of course it doesn't matter for experts, even if he scores ducks every single innings in 2022 India all of that will be brushed under the carpet. SENA privilege.

Well Kohli was considered a top batsmen before his 2018 tour of England, despite the fact that he had averaged less than 10 in England
 
Not just him, look at Barry Richards' career and his status in the cricket world.
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Barry Richards' status is due to the fact that many, many pundits rated him as the best in the world through observation, with many putting him up there with viv
 
What is his record outside of Australian concrete slabs?
His first series in UAE, where he was a completely different batsmen and averaged 20, and an away Ashes series where he was the 3rd best batsmen from either team and averaged 50
 
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Exacty, can name 30 such cricketers who would be made fun of if they had represented one of the SC teams. Look at the ICC Hall of Fame, guys like Gooch, Gower, Rod Marsh, Simpson are there. From SC you need to be Sunny, Sachin, Imran, Wasim, Murali level player to get the nod.

I think it is partly based on services to cricket, and in that Simpson is up there with Bradman and Benaud
 
Mark waugh is a bit more arrogant compared to other Aussies like Mark Taylor, Michael Clarke. He almost acted like a cheerleader when India visited there. No fault of Labu. He can become no.1 batsman for sure assuming guys like Smith, Kohli, Williamson also having a slump. Ranking is all about current form. Typically you need a very good run for an year to get there But his numbers are too good. Having said that some ower ranked batsman can catapult himself to the top with a good run. Atleast 3 or 4 guys have suddenly entered into top 10. Rahane, Babar, Labu. Agarwal reached no.11 too. It is not totally impossible to get to no.1 ranking.
 
Well Kohli was considered a top batsmen before his 2018 tour of England, despite the fact that he had averaged less than 10 in England

Not a right example!! Yes, he was considered a top batsman before 2018 because he's already proved himself everywhere except Eng. not only in test cricket but in every formats!!. and also averaged 50+ in test cricket in 3 of the SENA countries. had he averaged 10 in all 4 countries of SENA, would have agreed!
 
People derive pleasure in overhyping their countrymen. It is very easy to be swayed by enthusiasm. That is what has happened to Mark Waugh.
 
Not a right example!! Yes, he was considered a top batsman before 2018 because he's already proved himself everywhere except Eng. not only in test cricket but in every formats!!. and also averaged 50+ in test cricket in 3 of the SENA countries. had he averaged 10 in all 4 countries of SENA, would have agreed!

larger difference within SENA than within Asia, England and Aus for example are completely different. England is the only country ATM that supports swing bowling
 
larger difference within SENA than within Asia, England and Aus for example are completely different. England is the only country ATM that supports swing bowling

south africa and australia are very similar. England is more similar to australia and south africa than it is to sub continent pitches. new zealand is also similar to australia. flat bouncy but not as springy as australia however the ball swings more too.
 
south africa and australia are very similar. England is more similar to australia and south africa than it is to sub continent pitches. new zealand is also similar to australia. flat bouncy but not as springy as australia however the ball swings more too.

England is completely different than Australia. NZ is low and slow generally, very flat except some early movement on day 1 often. SA could be considered similar to Australia, but their pitches have been extremely green recently
 
Different standards for SENA and Asian players but sadly many PPers fall for this discrimination again and again. SENA players don't even need to play in Asia but will still be called legendary but our batsmen who don't average 50+ in each of those 4 countries are rated as HTBs :facepalm:. No other sport carries this kind of inherent bias.

Even Kohli agrees with this tho that you need to perform in England and auso
 
Even Kohli agrees with this tho that you need to perform in England and auso

Ok, and that's what he's pointing out. Aus and Eng players are hyped up and rated for only performing at home.

There isn't really a criteria there that you have to perform away or in Asia to be considered the best. Aus and Eng value home performances way too much.
 
Ok, and that's what he's pointing out. Aus and Eng players are hyped up and rated for only performing at home.

There isn't really a criteria there that you have to perform away or in Asia to be considered the best. Aus and Eng value home performances way too much.

any player from SENA who doesn't perform in Asia is never going to be all time great. No way.

When I say Asia, They have to perform vs the best team I.e india and Pakistan.
 
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