Make Younis Khan temporary captain for one year while PCB grooms a young captain

[Indiafan]

I am pretty sure this is going to be Misbah's last test. Younis Khan was the other senior player under the lens but he has acquitted himself with a nice century here. Now the obvious question would be - should he retire here on a high (he has achieved 10,000 runs, century in every country)

IMO losing both seniors would be disastrous for this team with no seniors to guide them. If we look at captaincy, I am not sure Azhar is ready to lead the team here yet and there seems to be no other eligible contenders in sight who have both, cemented there place in the team and are mature and experienced enough

So PCB would have 4 options here.

1) Obvious one is to make Azhar Ali the test captain.

Azhar has not really impressed people with his ODI captaincy and with his batting form and him being the most important batsman in the side, I am not sure how captaincy will affect him. The team needs his batting much, much more than his captaincy at the moment

2) Make someone captain out of the blue.

Who are the settled players in the team who are sure of their place? Amir? Wahab? Sarfraz? Yasir? None of them seem the answer to me. It can be a good experience yet these players are in iffy form and I doubt how the extra pressure is going to help any of them. Except Sarfraz, none of them have shown any leadership skills

3) Get a previous senior player back in the team just for the sake of captaincy

PCB has done this many time before. A player who was not in the team, but has experience, has come back as captain. Examples are - Hafeez and Malik. To me, that would be taking one step forward and two steps back and definitely not a long time solution

4) Appoint Younis Khan as a temporary captain while they groom a younger player

This to me has many advantages. Younis can help the younger players in the team and guide them in Misbah's absence. He doesn't have many years left so his tenure is going to be a temporary one with him being aware of the same. This allows PCB to look at younger players they want to groom for captaincy and assess them. Maybe Amir after one year would be a different story and more settled in the team

I know Younis's last captaincy stint was with mixed results. However I see no better man to take the reigns of the team temporarily and who can groom both the players and the next captain. After losing Misbah, his experience will come handy

 

[uberkoen]

No.

 

[Solid Snake]

YK should really call it quits...

If he can somehow get to 10k in this innings or the next, he can leave on a nice note. Believe me it's extremely unlikely an opportunity to retire with his head held up high will come again if he keeps going.

 

[Indiafan]

YK should really call it quits...

If he can somehow get to 10k in this innings or the next, he can leave on a nice note. Believe me it's extremely unlikely an opportunity to retire with his head held up high will come again if he keeps going.

Same is said about him every series and he just keeps delivering every series. Pakistan need him after Misbah

 

[uberkoen]

Same is said about him every series and he just keeps delivering every series. Pakistan need him after Misbah

No, Pakistan does not need him after Misbah. It's time for the two veterans to hang their boots.

 

[Solid Snake]

Same is said about him every series and he just keeps delivering every series. Pakistan need him after Misbah

Does he though? Massive credit to him for pulling out some notable scores, but those are interspersed between quite a sizeable number of low scores.

One thing is for certain, both Misbah and YK shouldn't be in the same team. I would argue that for his own legacy, YK has nothing left to achieve and it would be best for the team to look for younger guns to take over.

 

[MRSN]

absolutely not. The sooner the both quits the better for Pakistan cricket. Pakistan should look for future and move on from these players. It's not like YK is scoring every test match. He played one good innings in entire series against England,he failed against NZ,now he has again played one good knock after series has been lost 2-0.

 

[Stallion__]

Can we count on PCB to groom a captain?

Or were they unaware of Misbah's impending retirement? If they wanted to, they would a groomed Misbah's successor during his time.

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

Yup totally agree with you mate, maybe it'll be the right decision at least till he completes his 10,000 runs personal milestone,


Now its all about developing the other one and its my personal favourite Sarfaraz but I'm anxious as well because he seemed way too hyper!!


But Azhar is way too dumb to be the captain he hasn't got strategies to trap batsmen,


Out of the blue won't be a good option!

 

[Abdul]

Thanks but no thanks. We're better off without a drama queen like him.

Needs to leave as soon as he gets his ten thousand runs.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I have been saying this for a while now. Thanks [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] for creating a thread in this. Younus though inconsistent still delivers when pushed to corner and his career is at stake. His captaincy will be very different from Misbah and he is the one who should have been captaining pak since inzi left in all formats. He and butt were the one seen as the future captains after inzi by Woolmer. His attacking captaincy, shrewd mindset and experience will be very useful for the young captains to learn. I see him as the right candidate to eradicate the defensive mindset and fear of losing otherwise Azhar Ali will continue from where Misbah left because he was trained as such. It is a chance for PCB not to miss. It will also help Azhar's captaincy in ODIs.

Guys pls remember what happened when mahela and Sanga retire from tests for SRL and they are still struggling. Same when Misbah and Afridi retire from ODIs and Azhar was made captain. Now If both Younus and Misbah leave together and two newbies replacing them and pak keep losing more matches and will drop to 7th for sure in a years time then sack Azhar as captain which will pull the team down further and pak will be beating Ban only in tests.

By making Younus captain the transition time will be reduced from 2.5 years to less than a year and will be safe.

 

[Indiafan]

I have been saying this for a while now. Thanks [MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION] for creating a thread in this. Younus though inconsistent still delivers when pushed to corner and his career is at stake. His captaincy will be very different from Misbah and he is the one who should have been captaining pak since inzi left in all formats. He and butt were the one seen as the future captains after inzi by Woolmer. His attacking captaincy, shrewd mindset and experience will be very useful for the young captains to learn. I see him as the right candidate to eradicate the defensive mindset and fear of losing otherwise Azhar Ali will continue from where Misbah left because he was trained as such. It is a chance for PCB not to miss. It will also help Azhar's captaincy in ODIs.

Guys pls remember what happened when mahela and Sanga retire from tests for SRL and they are still struggling. Same when Misbah and Afridi retire from ODIs and Azhar was made captain. Now If both Younus and Misbah leave together and two newbies replacing them and pak keep losing more matches and will drop to 7th for sure in a years time then sack Azhar as captain which will pull the team down further and pak will be beating Ban only in tests.

By making Younus captain the transition time will be reduced from 2.5 years to less than a year and will be safe.

Thank you. And if both seniors retire and Azhar doesnt establish himself in all formats or PCB has multiple captains per format, I can guarantee the young ones will form groups and start infighting. That can be avoided with Younus keeping the ship stable and PCB grooming a captain for a year

 

[Watsupdoc]

How many more runs doesnYounis need till 10000? He won't retire until he gets there for sure.

 

[Watsupdoc]

Can we count on PCB to groom a captain?

Or were they unaware of Misbah's impending retirement? If they wanted to, they would a groomed Misbah's successor during his time.

They have and its Azhar Ali...

 

[Indiafan]

How many more runs doesnYounis need till 10000? He won't retire until he gets there for sure.

Only 75 runs

 

[Hasan123]

The problem is the way his form has been in this series he's barely earning his place in the team.

 

[Indiafan]

The problem is the way his form has been in this series he's barely earning his place in the team.

Some people want Butt back because he scored a 100 7 years ago. Younis did that last series and this

 

[Hasan123]

Some people want Butt back because he scored a 100 7 years ago. Younis did that last series and this

I'm not one of those people who want Butt back.

How has he earned his place? He's been dancing and hoping around for most of the overseas games apart from 3/4.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I'm not one of those people who want Butt back.

How has he earned his place? He's been dancing and hoping around for most of the overseas games apart from 3/4.

He is 43 years old.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

I like younis but it was against Sfk and Lyon , best subcontinent type condition, flat pitch and third seamer is very average . I mean Aussie is playing two average spinner as main bowler, seriously Aussie has trolled you all.
For Pak it is best that they move forward not backward

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I'm not one of those people who want Butt back.

How has he earned his place? He's been dancing and hoping around for most of the overseas games apart from 3/4.

Apart from his dancing and hoping his record is still better than MISBAH... There is a reason why MISBAH cant make an ODI 100 and a test 200... Same applies to shafiq who is yet to cross 140....

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

No more stop gaps.

Where is our 26-27 year old world class middle order batter captain?

 

[Pakistanian]

He's gotten many chances as captain before, he's already 40 so we should experiment with him anymore.

He needs to hang his boots the moment he hits 10 grand. Heck, if I were him I would retire hurt once I reached the 10 grand mark.

 

[Syed1]

No more stop gaps.

Where is our 26-27 year old world class middle order batter captain?

Yet to make his debut since Misbah hates under 30 youngsters.

 

[Rayyman]

No more stop gaps.

Where is our 26-27 year old world class middle order batter captain?

For now it's Azhar. He isn't 27 or a middle order bat, but he's good enough. Hopefully Babar will be that guy.

 

[AZulfi]

Agree with OP

Misbah should retire after this series

Make Younis Khan ((he was innovative and aggressive (not dull like Inzi and Misbah) and impressed with his smart bowling changes and field settings during his brief stint as captain ....but Younis is also an emotional guy and resigned himself as he just could not handle dressing room politics)) interim captain for a year or so until Sarfraz (needs to show greater consistency with gloves & bat) or somebody-else is ready to take over the reigns.

Azhar Ali is ultra defensive and certainly not captaincy material imo.

 

[Saj]

In theory a good idea but the risk is that Younis is such a drama queen that anything could happen if he was made captain.

 

[AZulfi]

Both Misbah and Dhoni's captaincy stats are inflated by test wins at home or in familiar conditions.

I rate Pak test captains as follows

Imran >> Miandad >> Younis Khan >> Wasim Akram >> Misbah >> Inzi=Saleem Malik

But since we are mainly talking about this era, if Younis Khan had the luxury of captaining Pakistan in 40 odd tests in UAE/Asia he would have had a record as good as Misbah's if not superior.

Younis a most under-rated captain imo.

(p.s. rate Kardar and Mushtaq very highly too but did not watch them play)

 

[Haroon786]

Both Misbah and Dhoni's captaincy stats are inflated by test wins at home or in familiar conditions.

I rate Pak test captains as follows

Imran >> Miandad >> Younis Khan >> Wasim Akram >> Misbah >> Inzi=Saleem Malik

But since we are mainly talking about this era, if Younis Khan had the luxury of captaining Pakistan in 40 odd tests in UAE/Asia he would have had a record as good as Misbah's if not superior.

Younis a most under-rated captain imo.

(p.s. rate Kardar and Mushtaq very highly too but did not watch them play)

Can't rate someone highly as a captain based on what they could have done; most people agree that YK is not anywhere near being one of the best Pakistani captains, in fact he's probably one of the worst - his prima donna personality was a major reason of not being able to captain for much longer than he should have in the late noughties.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Younis Khan is not somebody who suits establishment.

He doesn't suit PCB.

 

[Hasan123]

Apart from his dancing and hoping his record is still better than MISBAH... There is a reason why MISBAH cant make an ODI 100 and a test 200... Same applies to shafiq who is yet to cross 140....

Lol did I say he's an inferior player to Misbah? Why don't you compare his stats with Azhar instead?

 

[Hasan123]

He is 43 years old.

Exactly a good chance to retire on a high with a big score here.

 

[Jabo]

No

Both go

 

[PakLFC]

No. There is no substitute to learning the art of captaincy on the field of play. After Misbah the next captain has to take responsibility immediately.

 

[proud_pakistani]

Younis was a decent captain when he got the captaincy a few years a go but did not get the required support from the board. He brought in new players like Fawad Alam and Jr who both performed in the team. But since he had no issue with dropping some of the senior guys they all revolted against him and PCB shud hv backed him in the oath taking row. Neway after tht incident highly doubt YK will take up captaincy, especially since he is nearing the end of his career. The fact is Azhar Ali will take over from Misbah. I would ideally like Sarfraz to take it tho.

 

[s28]

Can't rate someone highly as a captain based on what they could have done; most people agree that YK is not anywhere near being one of the best Pakistani captains, in fact he's probably one of the worst - his prima donna personality was a major reason of not being able to captain for much longer than he should have in the late noughties.

Funny how biased people can be that they talk about a Captain without mentioning fact he is one of only two Pakistan captains to ever win Pakistan international tournaments!

Imran Khan won World Cup in MCG Australia
Younus Khan won World T20 at Lords England

 

[MMHS]

If YK is ready to play for 1.5 years (England 2018), then he is the best option as a stop gap, with a young deputy. But, he has to commit at least 1 year, for that.

 

[Haroon786]

Funny how biased people can be that they talk about a Captain without mentioning fact he is one of only two Pakistan captains to ever win Pakistan international tournaments!

Imran Khan won World Cup in MCG Australia
Younus Khan won World T20 at Lords England

Funny how people can post in a thread without realising which format is being discussed!

Anyway, back to your point, it had nothing to do with YK's captaincy that Afridi mid-tournament had a resurgence and that Razzaq was brought in as a replacement and performed immediately - the two key factors along with Gul's form in that tournament.

 

[Pete Rose]

No one wants to play under younis khan. His first stint was disaster. Before we start blaming the players, please remember it is the captains job to be a leader of men. Plus he is a bitter man forever, trying to settle scores for insults imagined or otherwise