Malik Riaz agrees to hand over assets worth £190m to UK crime agency

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The £190 million settlement is the result of an investigation by the NCA into Malik Riaz Hussain, a Pakistani national, whose business is one of the biggest private sector employers in Pakistan.</p>— National Crime Agency (NCA) (@NCA_UK) <a href="https://twitter.com/NCA_UK/status/1201795020518506496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Bewal Express]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The £190 million settlement is the result of an investigation by the NCA into Malik Riaz Hussain, a Pakistani national, whose business is one of the biggest private sector employers in Pakistan.</p>— National Crime Agency (NCA) (@NCA_UK) <a href="https://twitter.com/NCA_UK/status/1201795020518506496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], what did you say- not a penny will come back?

 

[Abdullah719]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], what did you say- not a penny will come back?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/ShazadAkbar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShazadAkbar</a> for recovering 190 Million Pounds from a property which was sold by Hasan Nawaz to Ali Riaz Malik. This case of 1 Hyde Park was first highlighted on ARY programme Powerplay. Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/adeelraja?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@adeelraja</a> & team <a href="https://twitter.com/arypowerplay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arypowerplay</a> <a href="https://t.co/mgyowrawuo">https://t.co/mgyowrawuo</a> <a href="https://t.co/XtA9mcwJUZ">pic.twitter.com/XtA9mcwJUZ</a></p>— Arshad Sharif (@arsched) <a href="https://twitter.com/arsched/status/1201809275242393600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Bewal Express]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/ShazadAkbar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShazadAkbar</a> for recovering 190 Million Pounds from a property which was sold by Hasan Nawaz to Ali Riaz Malik. This case of 1 Hyde Park was first highlighted on ARY programme Powerplay. Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/adeelraja?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@adeelraja</a> & team <a href="https://twitter.com/arypowerplay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arypowerplay</a> <a href="https://t.co/mgyowrawuo">https://t.co/mgyowrawuo</a> <a href="https://t.co/XtA9mcwJUZ">pic.twitter.com/XtA9mcwJUZ</a></p>— Arshad Sharif (@arsched) <a href="https://twitter.com/arsched/status/1201809275242393600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So as the Panama scandal broke, MR took this property of the hands of the crooked family and today has to pay back the £190mn. [MENTION=150325]mgtow[/MENTION]

 

[Hermoine Green]

Another deep state saazish?

 

[uberkoen]

Haven’t read much into this but does anyone know what is actually happening? The money that is being returned to the state is it Malik Riaz’s money? What happens to the property? Does Nawaz get to keep the money from the sale of the property?

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Man owned prime real estate a stones throw from Buckingham palace.

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/ShazadAkbar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShazadAkbar</a> for recovering 190 Million Pounds from a property which was sold by Hasan Nawaz to Ali Riaz Malik. This case of 1 Hyde Park was first highlighted on ARY programme Powerplay. Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/adeelraja?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@adeelraja</a> & team <a href="https://twitter.com/arypowerplay?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@arypowerplay</a> <a href="https://t.co/mgyowrawuo">https://t.co/mgyowrawuo</a> <a href="https://t.co/XtA9mcwJUZ">pic.twitter.com/XtA9mcwJUZ</a></p>— Arshad Sharif (@arsched) <a href="https://twitter.com/arsched/status/1201809275242393600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is a big news there should be a separate thread for discussion or the title of this thread should be updated. Interestingly many news channels are not even covering this news or avoiding Malik Riaz involvement in it because of MR big investments in media

 

[WebGuru]

Haven’t read much into this but does anyone know what is actually happening? The money that is being returned to the state is it Malik Riaz’s money? What happens to the property? Does Nawaz get to keep the money from the sale of the property?

I am more interested to know if the news about Hasan Nawaz selling this property is true? And if he really sold this property did he receive all the money already from Riaz family

 

[uberkoen]

I am more interested to know if the news about Hasan Nawaz selling this property is true? And if he really sold this property did he receive all the money already from Riaz family

This is exactly what I want to know which would make MR the victim in this case with the Sharif’s walking to the bank laughing

 

[WebGuru]

As per the agreement between the parties, further details of settlement are confidential.

The Noora and his sons are not as dumb as many believe they sold the property to Malik Riaz 1 month ahead of Panama Leaks according to this release. Remember they also appeared on TV and did planted interviews with 2 channels just before Panama Leaks.

 

[WebGuru]

So money in the accounts and one of the property are being transferred to the state of Pakistan well done Shehzad Akbar!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For reference, the Sharifs' liability shown through the Panama Papers was for roughly £20 million (the actual NAB cases were for more). This is an extraordinary settlement, and includes a single £50 million London property. Will Pakistani authorities be proceeding against Riaz?</p>— Asad Hashim (@AsadHashim) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsadHashim/status/1201796713176064001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">لندن میں پانچ کروڑ پاونڈ مالیت کی ون ہائڈ پارک پلیس کی رہائشی عمارت برطانیہ کی نیشنل کرائم ایجنسی نے ملک ریاض سے ایک تصفیے کے تحت ضبط کر لی ہے۔ ملک ریاض نے نیشنل کرائم ایجنسی کو مجموعی طور پر 19 کروڑ پاونڈ یا 38 ارب روپے ادا کرنے پر اتفاق کیا ہے۔ <br>فراز ہاشمی کی رپورٹ <a href="https://t.co/XtrKhIS7P4">pic.twitter.com/XtrKhIS7P4</a></p>— BBC News اردو (@BBCUrdu) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCUrdu/status/1201912226174636041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bewal Express]

As per the agreement between the parties, further details of settlement are confidential.

The Noora and his sons are not as dumb as many believe they sold the property to Malik Riaz 1 month ahead of Panama Leaks according to this release. Remember they also appeared on TV and did planted interviews with 2 channels just before Panama Leaks.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], I can't hear you. Did I hear you say that they are not a paying a penny?

 

[Bewal Express]

Haven’t read much into this but does anyone know what is actually happening? The money that is being returned to the state is it Malik Riaz’s money? What happens to the property? Does Nawaz get to keep the money from the sale of the property?

It will be interesting to know if any money actually changed hands between MR and the Sharifs or was this just fronting exercise to avoid the confiscation that was going to come after people had time to digest the Panama papers.

 

[Bewal Express]

So money in the accounts and one of the property are being transferred to the state of Pakistan well done Shehzad Akbar!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For reference, the Sharifs' liability shown through the Panama Papers was for roughly £20 million (the actual NAB cases were for more). This is an extraordinary settlement, and includes a single £50 million London property. Will Pakistani authorities be proceeding against Riaz?</p>— Asad Hashim (@AsadHashim) <a href="https://twitter.com/AsadHashim/status/1201796713176064001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is massive news. I wonder how Geo covered it? Lol

 

[WebGuru]

This is massive news. I wonder how Geo covered it? Lol

Forget Geo News many big anchors of different channels are avoiding this news like it never happened

 

[WebGuru]

It will be interesting to know if any money actually changed hands between MR and the Sharifs or was this just fronting exercise to avoid the confiscation that was going to come after people had time to digest the Panama papers.

There is a possibility that MR family was acting as a front

 

[Bewal Express]

Forget Geo News many big anchors of different channels are avoiding this news like it never happened

The mafia is way too strong.

 

[Bewal Express]

There is a possibility that MR family was acting as a front

I am in no doubt that he was, and the money paid was returned to MR( if it was ever paid). Great Work by IK and the team.

 

[WebGuru]

I am in no doubt that he was, and the money paid was returned to MR( if it was ever paid). Great Work by IK and the team.

Look at the overreaction of China ka Arastu
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You mean there are Judge Arshad Maliks in UK. Don’t be blinded in your hate for others. <a href="https://t.co/fMGPhJ0IOI">https://t.co/fMGPhJ0IOI</a></p>— Ahsan Iqbal (@betterpakistan) <a href="https://twitter.com/betterpakistan/status/1201926042480496640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bewal Express]

Look at the overreaction of China ka Arastu
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You mean there are Judge Arshad Maliks in UK. Don’t be blinded in your hate for others. <a href="https://t.co/fMGPhJ0IOI">https://t.co/fMGPhJ0IOI</a></p>— Ahsan Iqbal (@betterpakistan) <a href="https://twitter.com/betterpakistan/status/1201926042480496640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Iqbal is top notch licker. The guy has no shame.

 

[AdamM97]

Forget Geo News many big anchors of different channels are avoiding this news like it never happened

Surprised that no one is crying about censorship now.

 

[Bewal Express]

Surprised that no one is crying about censorship now.

This censorship is halal.

 

[srh]

Very nice.

Put Malik Riaz on trial in Pakistan and force him to tell details of this whole transaction on live media. If it is true that he was taking the blame for Sharif family then all hell should break lose against the Sharif family in country; pakar pakar kay maro sarkon per un logon ko. Pakistanis need to stand up and come out on roads against these crooks.

 

[Bewal Express]

Very nice.

Put Malik Riaz on trial in Pakistan and force him to tell details of this whole transaction on live media. If it is true that he was taking the blame for Sharif family then all hell should break lose against the Sharif family in country; pakar pakar kay maro sarkon per un logon ko. Pakistanis need to stand up and come out on roads against these crooks.

MR has bribed everything and everyone and played along in 2016 as a favour to the Sharifs. The Sharifs have been caught red handed. For the 1st time in our history money is being returned. Well done IK.

 

[WebGuru]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Malik Riaz says that he sold his legally declared properties to pay the SC - however, the law under which his bank accounts were frozen by the UK's National Crime Agency is the Criminal Finances Act of 2017 - and it relates to money laundering in the UK</p>— omar r quraishi (@omar_quraishi) <a href="https://twitter.com/omar_quraishi/status/1201947652205756416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Syed1]

LOL complete silence on the media regarding this, and those media houses that are covering this are not even naming Malik Riaz. Mashallah, such lovely media we have.

 

[WebGuru]

LOL complete silence on the media regarding this, and those media houses that are covering this are not even naming Malik Riaz. Mashallah, such lovely media we have.

You want them to say no to Bahria Town ads? Some of them are partners of MR in different projects.

 

[kk1992]

And here we are told daily that Pakistani media is controlled by the government of IK and Army.

abhi tu shuruwat hai

 

[Bewal Express]

And here we are told daily that Pakistani media is controlled by the government of IK and Army.

abhi tu shuruwat hai

Those guys HAVE GONE QUIT AND THE FAKE narrative has gone to pot.

 

[kk1992]

Those guys HAVE GONE QUIT AND THE FAKE narrative has gone to pot.

As predicted.

Either failed to understood or intentionally ignored, days of corrupt government at the top level has long gone, Establishment(Army) and other concerned parties understood, the biggest threat to Pakistan was poor economy and corrupt politicians who were representing themselves and not Pakistan.

 

[WebGuru]

And here we are told daily that Pakistani media is controlled by the government of IK and Army.

abhi tu shuruwat hai

Lets discuss why our media especially Dawn is not reporting on Jami's allegation against one of the biggest media tycoon in the country.

 

[Bewal Express]

As predicted.

Either failed to understood or intentionally ignored, days of corrupt government at the top level has long gone, Establishment(Army) and other concerned parties understood, the biggest threat to Pakistan was poor economy and corrupt politicians who were representing themselves and not Pakistan.

This is a historic day for PK. No longer can the Nooras and Billo Party cover up each others looting privately while pretending to hate each other in public.

 

[uberkoen]

So, 190m pounds is the total value of the cash plus the property. This will form part of the settlement from Malik Riaz which was earlier agreed in court and is not on top of that. Total settlement to be paid by MR is PKR 460bn out of which PKR 38bn will be from this. Not a bad deal for all parties.

Hussain Nawaz sold this property to Malik Riaz in 2006 so they're probably happy as well because they got their money and walked away.

In the end though, for what it seems, its nothing new. Malik Riaz owed the government PKR 420bn and basically this is one of the payments towards that.

 

[chinaman00]

So, 190m pounds is the total value of the cash plus the property. This will form part of the settlement from Malik Riaz which was earlier agreed in court and is not on top of that. Total settlement to be paid by MR is PKR 460bn out of which PKR 38bn will be from this. Not a bad deal for all parties.

Hussain Nawaz sold this property to Malik Riaz in 2006 so they're probably happy as well because they got their money and walked away.

In the end though, for what it seems, its nothing new. Malik Riaz owed the government PKR 420bn and basically this is one of the payments towards that.

Wrong.

Property was sold by the Sharif family less than a month before the Panama Documents were publicly released with some alleging that they were tipped off by friendly journalists in the Pakistani media

https://twitter.com/anasmallick/status/1201818853644341249

 

[WebGuru]

Hussain Nawaz sold this property to Malik Riaz in 2006

2016 just before the Panama Leaks.

 

[uberkoen]

Wrong.

Property was sold by the Sharif family less than a month before the Panama Documents were publicly released with some alleging that they were tipped off by friendly journalists in the Pakistani media

https://twitter.com/anasmallick/status/1201818853644341249

2016 just before the Panama Leaks.

Yes meant to type 2016 sorry.

Either way point being the Sharif’s got the money and MR is using this as part of the agreed settlement of 460bn.

 

[Kriketer]

Great news! Never heard of any past government getting the money back, if anything those crooks stole and spent it all in the foreign lands.

Positive signs keep unfolding. With a steady pace culprits are being brought to justice. Great to see times when they are either paying back or rotting behind bars or running away with fake health drama.

 

[WebGuru]

Yes meant to type 2016 sorry.

Either way point being the Sharif’s got the money and MR is using this as part of the agreed settlement of 460bn.

Thats MR side of story and he is saying he sold these assets to pay the money so how come the NCA is involved thn and this UK case was started in Dec 2018. There are more details to come and we will get a clear picture soon. Any way this is a far bigger news thn the so called 60 millions in Swiss banks that PMLN used against PPP for years but never recovered.

 

[Bewal Express]

Wrong.

Property was sold by the Sharif family less than a month before the Panama Documents were publicly released with some alleging that they were tipped off by friendly journalists in the Pakistani media

https://twitter.com/anasmallick/status/1201818853644341249

As we know the media is part of the mafia, and Cheema is a proper licker.

 

[Bewal Express]

Thats MR side of story and he is saying he sold these assets to pay the money so how come the NCA is involved thn and this UK case was started in Dec 2018. There are more details to come and we will get a clear picture soon. Any way this is a far bigger news thn the so called 60 millions in Swiss banks that PMLN used against PPP for years but never recovered.

Nooras are hurting today. As I said this is indeed a historic moment. IK has kept his promise, and hopefully this is just the start.

 

[uberkoen]

Nooras are hurting today. As I said this is indeed a historic moment. IK has kept his promise, and hopefully this is just the start.

That's a horrible post. Not sure why you would think anyone is hurting specially PML-N supporters because this has nothing to do with PML-N. In fact, as per the information received so far this has nothing to do with anything other than the original supreme court decision for MR to pay settlement of 460bn PKR

 

[gazza619]

Usual suspects missing from these threads.

Way to go Pakistan!

 

[Bewal Express]

That's a horrible post. Not sure why you would think anyone is hurting specially PML-N supporters because this has nothing to do with PML-N. In fact, as per the information received so far this has nothing to do with anything other than the original supreme court decision for MR to pay settlement of 460bn PKR

Really? He brought the flats from the Sharifs a few days before the public revelations. Tell me why this transaction was done in such haste, and why they have paid up?

 

[WebGuru]

Really? He brought the flats from the Sharifs a few days before the public revelations. Tell me why this transaction was done in such haste, and why they have paid up?

And why NCA was involved if the whole thing was just about MR voluntarily selling these assets just to pay back GoP?

 

[uberkoen]

Really? He brought the flats from the Sharifs a few days before the public revelations. Tell me why this transaction was done in such haste, and why they have paid up?

Why does all that matter? They sold the flat to MR. MR paid them and that’s it. The whole case is closed. The issue is now between MR, the NCA and Pakistan. Doesn’t involve Sharifs anymore.

 

[Bewal Express]

Why does all that matter? They sold the flat to MR. MR paid them and that’s it. The whole case is closed. The issue is now between MR, the NCA and Pakistan. Doesn’t involve Sharifs anymore.

For you Nooras its case always closed, when did it ever open for you? You will never accept the criminality of this Family. The Panama revelations showed very clearly that the Sharifs had undeclared companies and Wealth, the ICIJ was to about to break the story and Cheema, the Sharif LICKER, gave advanced warning to them that the leaks had evidence of their criminality, straight away the chubby one did the " alhamdulillah interview" and the process was started to get rid of 1 Hyde Park to MR, their partner in crime. This has everything to the Sharifs and thats why the Nooras aree burning with humiliation because they have been caught red handed. This indeed is a historic day.

 

[Bewal Express]

And why NCA was involved if the whole thing was just about MR voluntarily selling these assets just to pay back GoP?

MR and the crooked SHARIFS have been caught red handed. The NCA was involved for the fun of it, and nothing to do with having them banged to rights. IK has brought the money back. Now we need to keep working to get the other billions back.

 

[uberkoen]

For you Nooras its case always closed, when did it ever open for you? You will never accept the criminality of this Family. The Panama revelations showed very clearly that the Sharifs had undeclared companies and Wealth, the ICIJ was to about to break the story and Cheema, the Sharif LICKER, gave advanced warning to them that the leaks had evidence of their criminality, straight away the chubby one did the " alhamdulillah interview" and the process was started to get rid of 1 Hyde Park to MR, their partner in crime. This has everything to the Sharifs and thats why the Nooras aree burning with humiliation because they have been caught red handed. This indeed is a historic day.

No one is denying the criminality of this family. Not sure why you are assuming all this. No one has said Nawaz isn't corrupt. The whole concept is dreamed up by PTI followers like you who don't bother listening to other peoples opinions and just focus on whatever IK feeds them.

Let me break it down for you so its easier for you to understand.

1. Nawaz is corrupt
2. This case has nothing to do with Nawaz or the Sharif family as they already sold the property to MR back in 2016
3. The person handing over the property and cash to UK investigators is Malik Riaz not anyone from the Sharif family

A statement from the NCA said: “The National Crime Agency has agreed a settlement figure with a family that owns large property developments in Pakistan and elsewhere.

“The £190 million settlement is the result of an investigation by the NCA into Malik Riaz Hussain, a Pakistani national, whose business is one of the biggest private sector employers in Pakistan.”

As much as you want to believe that IK got one up on Nawaz Sharif that is not the case. Stop being delusion. This entire thing has nothing to do with the Sharif family or PMLN supporters. The case was against Malik Riaz, the person paying is Malik Riaz. What does any of this have to do with Sharif's?

 

[Bewal Express]

No one is denying the criminality of this family. Not sure why you are assuming all this. No one has said Nawaz isn't corrupt. The whole concept is dreamed up by PTI followers like you who don't bother listening to other peoples opinions and just focus on whatever IK feeds them.

Let me break it down for you so its easier for you to understand.

1. Nawaz is corrupt
2. This case has nothing to do with Nawaz or the Sharif family as they already sold the property to MR back in 2016
3. The person handing over the property and cash to UK investigators is Malik Riaz not anyone from the Sharif family

A statement from the NCA said: “The National Crime Agency has agreed a settlement figure with a family that owns large property developments in Pakistan and elsewhere.

“The £190 million settlement is the result of an investigation by the NCA into Malik Riaz Hussain, a Pakistani national, whose business is one of the biggest private sector employers in Pakistan.”

As much as you want to believe that IK got one up on Nawaz Sharif that is not the case. Stop being delusion. This entire thing has nothing to do with the Sharif family or PMLN supporters. The case was against Malik Riaz, the person paying is Malik Riaz. What does any of this have to do with Sharif's?

Firstly, all Nooras do is tell us that they are not corrupt. If they believe they are not corrupt, then you are accusing them of being either stupid or immoral( its probably both) because on which planet would anyone in their right mind vote for them so that they can rob their own country!
MR is not a paying penny, all the money will be paid back to him by the Sharifs( over time) as he did them a favour at their hour of need. Otherwise, the deal makes no sense at all. Why would MR pay all this money, when he had no need to buy these properties, and dont tell the deal was in the offing before the Panama revelations. The suddenness of the deal meant that they messed up the sources of finance and got caught red handed. As you will know and i had this with my Bank, each penny has to be accounted for before the sale goes through.

 

[uberkoen]

Firstly, all Nooras do is tell us that they are not corrupt. If they believe they are not corrupt, then you are accusing them of being either stupid or immoral( its probably both) because on which planet would anyone in their right mind vote for them so that they can rob their own country!
MR is not a paying penny, all the money will be paid back to him by the Sharifs( over time) as he did them a favour at their hour of need. Otherwise, the deal makes no sense at all. Why would MR pay all this money, when he had no need to buy these properties, and dont tell the deal was in the offing before the Panama revelations. The suddenness of the deal meant that they messed up the sources of finance and got caught red handed. As you will know and i had this with my Bank, each penny has to be accounted for before the sale goes through.

Can you please share the source of this information or are you just making up stories that will help you gain a sense of achievement that PTI did something against Nawaz?

 

[Pakpak]

It's a shame someone as clever as uberkoen is a PMLN supporter.

 

[uberkoen]

It's a shame someone as clever as uberkoen is a PMLN supporter.

Actually I'm not a PML-N supporter however people here believe that anyone who is anti-PTI is PMLN and I've found that there is really no point in discussing this point because regardless of what one says no one believes you so I just let it be.

 

[Bewal Express]

Can you please share the source of this information or are you just making up stories that will help you gain a sense of achievement that PTI did something against Nawaz?

I am not sure why you are in confusion- the Flats were owned by the crooked Sharifs( fact), the flats were sold before the Panama revelations were known to the general public( fact), the flats were sold to MR( a crooked business partner of the crooked Sharifs) and most importantly, the financing was laundered( fact). So the question is quite simple, what did MR get out of it, nothing but humiliation except very few PK know as the media has hardly mentioned it. Do you think he will take a £190mn hit? He will get his money back.
I know you are in pain but without IK as PM this amount would not have been returned( fact)

 

[Bewal Express]

Actually I'm not a PML-N supporter however people here believe that anyone who is anti-PTI is PMLN and I've found that there is really no point in discussing this point because regardless of what one says no one believes you so I just let it be.

Every Noora on here denies they are a Noora( lets face it, who wants to be known as an immoral supporter of a criminal family business). Your posts suggests that you are a Noora!

 

[Pakpak]

Actually I'm not a PML-N supporter however people here believe that anyone who is anti-PTI is PMLN and I've found that there is really no point in discussing this point because regardless of what one says no one believes you so I just let it be.

If someone criticised all parties they would be considered a neutral. The reason people paint anyone anti-PTI as PMLN supporter is seeing certain people only jump up and down when its PTI that's done something and stay quiet when its the other lot. So whenever that happens its hard to maintain any sort of neutral credibility. Nothing against you personally ofcourse.

 

[kk1992]

Usual suspects missing from these threads.

Way to go Pakistan!

You won't see them as they can't spin it to Army is bad, NS was the only one going against Army, IK's every family member is corrupt, or it is Vicky's shahzish to take over Pakistan through IK.

The critics of IK was hoping to see change as soon as IK took the oath, critics were labeling Ik as messiah while blaming PTI supporters to believe IK is a messiah, yup! projecting.

Supporters of IK were and are being patient. It is a slow process. Pakistan has changed and that change will be visible gradually.

 

[shockbound]

324$m is hair donation for someone like Malik Riaz.

 

[Syed1]

Usual suspects missing from these threads.

Way to go Pakistan!

This is just the start.... Nooras will have to give up every last pound.

 

[Waseem]

There has been no proof of money being transferred from Malik Riaz to Sharifs for 1 Hyde Park property which could only mean 2 things:

- Malik transferred the property as a favour to Sharifs for other gains
- Payment was made in another country, again no proof there either

How did PMLN journalists spin it like Warne/

Well It is Malik Riaz's property and innocent Sharifs are being linked for no reason (ignoring the fact that it was transferred just 2 weeks before Panama leaks). Other spin is that Malik Riaz is corrupt so he is being punished, Sharifs are innocent and proof is no action ever taken against them

 

[King-Misbah]

324$m is hair donation for someone like Malik Riaz.

Seems like hes been donating a lot of hair then

 

[uberkoen]

Every Noora on here denies they are a Noora( lets face it, who wants to be known as an immoral supporter of a criminal family business). Your posts suggests that you are a Noora!

Honestly, not being rude, but your opinion or what you think of me doesn't matter at all. If I were a PML-N supporter I would say it out loud and proud. I have no need to hide anything on an internet forum full of strangers. It makes no sense. However, please continue believing what you want this is why I don't even bother arguing this point. It just doesn't matter if you'd like to call me a PML-N supporter please do so I couldn't care less.

 

[uberkoen]

Firstly, all Nooras do is tell us that they are not corrupt. If they believe they are not corrupt, then you are accusing them of being either stupid or immoral( its probably both) because on which planet would anyone in their right mind vote for them so that they can rob their own country!
MR is not a paying penny, all the money will be paid back to him by the Sharifs( over time) as he did them a favour at their hour of need. Otherwise, the deal makes no sense at all. Why would MR pay all this money, when he had no need to buy these properties, and dont tell the deal was in the offing before the Panama revelations. The suddenness of the deal meant that they messed up the sources of finance and got caught red handed. As you will know and i had this with my Bank, each penny has to be accounted for before the sale goes through.

There has been no proof of money being transferred from Malik Riaz to Sharifs for 1 Hyde Park property which could only mean 2 things:

- Malik transferred the property as a favour to Sharifs for other gains
- Payment was made in another country, again no proof there either

How did PMLN journalists spin it like Warne/

Well It is Malik Riaz's property and innocent Sharifs are being linked for no reason (ignoring the fact that it was transferred just 2 weeks before Panama leaks). Other spin is that Malik Riaz is corrupt so he is being punished, Sharifs are innocent and proof is no action ever taken against them

Back to the discussion on the topic and how all this involves the Sharifs.

Question, the property is wroth 40m. What about the remaining 150m cash? Is that also linked with Sharif's somehow?

 

[Bewal Express]

Back to the discussion on the topic and how all this involves the Sharifs.

Question, the property is wroth 40m. What about the remaining 150m cash? Is that also linked with Sharif's somehow?

When was the property sold? Why was it sold?

 

[Bewal Express]

Honestly, not being rude, but your opinion or what you think of me doesn't matter at all. If I were a PML-N supporter I would say it out loud and proud. I have no need to hide anything on an internet forum full of strangers. It makes no sense. However, please continue believing what you want this is why I don't even bother arguing this point. It just doesn't matter if you'd like to call me a PML-N supporter please do so I couldn't care less.

Every Noora tells us they are not a Noora and then spends their time telling us the Sharifs are not corrupt. It's like a criminal in denial.

 

[uberkoen]

When was the property sold? Why was it sold?

Why does it matter when or why it was sold. The Sharif's wiped their hands off of it and moved on.

Moreover, why aren't you answering my question regarding how the 150m cash is linked back to Sharifs?

 

[Bewal Express]

Why does it matter when or why it was sold. The Sharif's wiped their hands off of it and moved on.

Moreover, why aren't you answering my question regarding how the 150m cash is linked back to Sharifs?

YOU ARE REALLY ASKING THIS QUESTION? there is no helping you.

 

[uberkoen]

YOU ARE REALLY ASKING THIS QUESTION? there is no helping you.

What difference does it make why and when it was sold? Point being it was sold and current owner is MR who has to now hand it over to government not the Sharifs

Again, what about the cash? How do you link that back to the Sharifs?

 

[Bewal Express]

What difference does it make why and when it was sold? Point being it was sold and current owner is MR who has to now hand it over to government not the Sharifs

Again, what about the cash? How do you link that back to the Sharifs?

I am amazed at this silly question, I cant help you, if you are dont understand something as simple as a date line.

 

[uberkoen]

I am amazed at this silly question, I cant help you, if you are dont understand something as simple as a date line.

I like how you keep avoiding the question about the cash and do not elaborate on your point.

Again, how is cash linked to Sharifs?

Secondly, if they sold the property before or after Panama. How does it matter? The current case isn’t against them. They are not the guilty party. They got away. MR is the one in trouble

 

[Bewal Express]

I like how you keep avoiding the question about the cash and do not elaborate on your point.

Again, how is cash linked to Sharifs?

Secondly, if they sold the property before or after Panama. How does it matter? The current case isn’t against them. They are not the guilty party. They got away. MR is the one in trouble

Firstly, can you tell me where the Sharifs got the property from in the 1st palce? Yes i thought not
You are making it out as if nothing has happened, IK got £180mn back. What you mean how its linked to the Sharifs? The whole transaction is fake( hence the NCA action) , done in haste to prevent the Panama SCANDAL engulfing the crooks, which it did anyway.
The reason MR has been done is that he couldnt prove where the money come from, so tell me wise one where did the money come from? Who financed it? yes you guessed it, the Sharifs. Is that the answer you are looking for!

 

[uberkoen]

Firstly, can you tell me where the Sharifs got the property from in the 1st palce? Yes i thought not
You are making it out as if nothing has happened, IK got £180mn back. What you mean how its linked to the Sharifs? The whole transaction is fake( hence the NCA action) , done in haste to prevent the Panama SCANDAL engulfing the crooks, which it did anyway.
The reason MR has been done is that he couldnt prove where the money come from, so tell me wise one where did the money come from? Who financed it? yes you guessed it, the Sharifs. Is that the answer you are looking for!

Man why are you so fixated on the Sharifs. In this particular case, it does not matter because Sharif's are not involved here. Why is it so difficult for you to understand this?

The whole transaction is 40mn pounds. That's the value of the house. The remaining is not even linked to this. What are you even talking about?

What proof do you have that the Sharifs financed MR?

 

[Bewal Express]

Man why are you so fixated on the Sharifs. In this particular case, it does not matter because Sharif's are not involved here. Why is it so difficult for you to understand this?

The whole transaction is 40mn pounds. That's the value of the house. The remaining is not even linked to this. What are you even talking about?

What proof do you have that the Sharifs financed MR?

And you are that Noora that you claim that you arent. I find it funny that you ignore the sale date because it destroys your narrative and makes all Nooras look like total morons.This whole thing is about the Sharifs and for you to keep denying that says more about you than the issue involved. Tell us who else is going finance such a huge purchase in a such a short of space time? Why MR couldnt provide proof for the Money if this sale was above board?

 

[Hasan]

All NS supporters should hold onto their hats as further revelations in relation to Unexplained Wealth Orders, freezings of assets in U.K. and further settlements agreed with NCA.

Pakistan and U.K. government have agreed terms to coordinate efforts. And this will extend to other political heavyweights.

https://www.transparency.org.uk/uwo-consider-today/

 

[Hasan]

NCA describes its role as being -

“ The National Crime Agency leads the UK’s fight to cut serious and organised crime, protecting the public by targeting and pursuing those criminals who pose the greatest risk to the UK.”

 

[uberkoen]

And you are that Noora that you claim that you arent. I find it funny that you ignore the sale date because it destroys your narrative and makes all Nooras look like total morons.This whole thing is about the Sharifs and for you to keep denying that says more about you than the issue involved. Tell us who else is going finance such a huge purchase in a such a short of space time? Why MR couldnt provide proof for the Money if this sale was above board?

Again, you keep saying things which have no proof or backing other than your own perception. Just because you don't think something is possible doesn't mean it isn't.

I understand the sale was done a few weeks before the leak of Panama Papers nonetheless, it was sold and that is chapter closed. Simple question being, Why isn't NCA pursuing a case against the Sharif's?

Don't know how else to get this point through to you and you keep on ignoring the 150mn question. What does the 150mn have to do with this particular house or the deal or with Sharifs?

 

[Bewal Express]

Again, you keep saying things which have no proof or backing other than your own perception. Just because you don't think something is possible doesn't mean it isn't.

I understand the sale was done a few weeks before the leak of Panama Papers nonetheless, it was sold and that is chapter closed. Simple question being, Why isn't NCA pursuing a case against the Sharif's?

Don't know how else to get this point through to you and you keep on ignoring the 150mn question. What does the 150mn have to do with this particular house or the deal or with Sharifs?

So you are saying its my perception that the property was brought weeks before the Panama scandal broke publicly, is it my perception that the seller was the Sharifs, is it my perception that the NCA- which deals with serious fraud looked into and forced MR to pay £180mn, Is it my perception that MR couldnt prove his sources of finance? If he couldnt, then who financed it?

 

[Bewal Express]

Again, you keep saying things which have no proof or backing other than your own perception. Just because you don't think something is possible doesn't mean it isn't.

I understand the sale was done a few weeks before the leak of Panama Papers nonetheless, it was sold and that is chapter closed. Simple question being, Why isn't NCA pursuing a case against the Sharif's?

Don't know how else to get this point through to you and you keep on ignoring the 150mn question. What does the 150mn have to do with this particular house or the deal or with Sharifs?

Because MR has effectively owned the fraud to protect their political interests. Remember when AZ and BB refused to take ownership of Surrey Palace and letter when it was sold, AZ said it was his!

 

[uberkoen]

So you are saying its my perception that the property was brought weeks before the Panama scandal broke publicly, is it my perception that the seller was the Sharifs, is it my perception that the NCA- which deals with serious fraud looked into and forced MR to pay £180mn, Is it my perception that MR couldnt prove his sources of finance? If he couldnt, then who financed it?

No, not at all. That's not what I'm saying. The above are all facts and that's it. There is nothing more to it then what you've mentioned above.