. tbh he did pretty well recent concluded T20 WC
didn't you see Amla participating more n more T20 leagues these days? He means Business this time
Gilchrist
Hayden
Sehwag
Ganguly
Sachin
Mark waugh
Saeed anwar
Gayle
Jaysuriya
Gibbs
Kristen
Just some of the names better than Amla in ODIs
out of 22 100's 5 against the WI,3 vs Zimbabwe,1 vs Ireland and 1 vs Netherlands,1 vs Bangladesh
out of 22 100's 5 against the WI,3 vs Zimbabwe,1 vs Ireland and 1 vs Netherlands,1 vs Bangladesh
out of 22 100's 5 against the WI,3 vs Zimbabwe,1 vs Ireland and 1 vs Netherlands,1 vs Bangladesh
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION], your thoughts on this please bhai
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Thank you bhai.
Yes I can't understand why he is so insistent on calling amla a great odi player when it's clear he is not. I didn't even bring the world cup stats in because that's enough to end the debate so I just decided to talk about the impact a great odi player should have
Agree on gibbs a very good batsmen me and my big brother enjoyed watching him bat his knock vs australia in that mammoth chase in 2006 is an innings which amla could never play and also a knock which is about having an impact which is the point I was trying to make about to bilal
Very very well summed up bhai. This is amlas main problem after the power play is done I hardly worry about him taking the game away from the team. He will just rotate the strike and hit the odd boundary thus showing he does not have the impact that the great odis players have. The players I mentioned would still be able to findthe boundires and put pressure on the bowlers. Also most of them could do it in a pressure situation.
I think root has learnt from kohli
Yes fully agree with this. Bilal is calling amla best odi opener when he is not even best player of todays game.
Kohli is the best at building his innings finding the gaps waiting for the loose ball than at the end accelrating perfectly something which amla can never do.
Also root is learning this now he is a much improved odi player to the one we 1st saw.
out of 22 100's 5 against the WI,3 vs Zimbabwe,1 vs Ireland and 1 vs Netherlands,1 vs Bangladesh
Amla better than Sachin?
Those stats are greats but odis are about impact. How many of those 100s have taken the game away from the opposition? They will have come a run a ball or more which is not really that great in this modern era.
I don't understand how you can claim that amla is better than the players I have mentioned. I will take 2 for my explanation. Gilchrist and Jaysuriya are better odi players than Amla. It's a fact. Gilchrist changed the odi game. He batted at the top of the order as a wicket keeper batsmen which was unheard off and he batted with an aggressive mentality and at a much quicker pace than Amla ever can
That is impact.
Jaysuriya in an era were batting at 70/75 strike rate was acceptable and saving wickets for the end of innings was the norm. Jaysuriya instead was take on the bowlers and look to score as many boundaries as possible and put his wicket on the line. This completely changed the odi game in terms of openers as ever since than odi openers for the most part have replicated this formula.
They are just 2 players who I will explain why they are better than Amla the rest it's obvious why they are better than Amla and only a biased person would say amla is better than them players mentioned. Most of them not only have a better world cup record than Amla, they have more impact on the game than he does.
Also amla strike rate is massively misleading, he is brilliantin the power plays because the field is up which means he can hit the balls in the gap which he is strong at. Check his strike rate after the power play I don't think it will be higher than 85. How many of those centuries can you say for certain took the game away from the opposition in an agressive manner? The players I have mentioned you don't even need to think of the innings where they had an impact because they was impact odi players.
So stop being biased and just accept amla is a good odi player but not a atg and up there with thsee players!
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Yeah WC innings valued more. But lot of players rated highly coz they've a good innings at WC and have a good record in odi overall
Btw there's not many people who has stellar records at WC from current crop of players.
Against Pakistan in 2013, they needed 30 off 30 with amla batting, and they lost the game because he didn't bat at the correct tempo.
He has slowed down the innings plenty of times for south Africa it may have not cost them the game but this is due to other south African players being able to accelerate.
Yet you have someone on this forum calling him atg and one of the greatest openers in LO.
Against Pakistan in 2013, they needed 30 off 30 with amla batting, and they lost the game because he didn't bat at the correct tempo.
He has slowed down the innings plenty of times for south Africa it may have not cost them the game but this is due to other south African players being able to accelerate.
Yet you have someone on this forum calling him atg and one of the greatest openers in LO.
In bilatriels he seems to get away with it but when it comes to pressure situations he doesn't get away with it.
Also you said requirements of the team, sometimes you can't alway plays anchor, when a new batsmen comes in it could take a while for him to settle. Amla instead of being a bit more positive will just carry on playing anchor this can cost his team vital runs.
Look at his t20 strike rate outside of the Powerplay. It sums him up his LOI career.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion.
