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Arsenal distance themselves from Mesut Özil comments on Uighurs’ plight

Arsenal have distanced themselves from comments made by Mesut Özil on Instagram, in which he spoke out strongly against China’s persecution of the Uighur population in the north-western region of Xinjiang and criticised Muslims for not doing more to highlight the issue.

The club sought to limit any damage caused to its business in China, where it has numerous commercial interests including a chain of restaurants, by releasing a statement on Weibo – a leading Chinese social media site – as well as other platforms stressing it is apolitical and does not associate itself with Özil’s views.

“Regarding the comments made by Mesut Özil on social media, Arsenal must make a clear statement,” it read. “The content published is Özil’s personal opinion. As a football club, Arsenal has always adhered to the principle of not involving itself in politics.”

Özil had added his voice to the wave of international outrage about the treatment of the Uighurs, a Turkic-speaking Muslim minority who have been subjected to a campaign of religious and ethnic persecution by the Chinese authorities.

Around 10 million live in Xinjiang and there are claims that more than a million have been held in detention camps over recent years. Özil’s post had listed a range of the issues facing Uighurs in China, accusing other Muslims of staying silent on the subject.

His Instagram message read: “East Turkistan, the bleeding wound of the Ummah, resisting against the persecutors trying to separate them from their religion. They burn their Qurans. They shut down their mosques. They ban their schools. They kill their holy men. The men are forced into camps and their families are forced to live with Chinese men. The women are forced to marry Chinese men.

“But Muslims are silent. They won’t make a noise. They have abandoned them. Don’t they know that giving consent for persecution is persecution itself?”

It is not the first time Özil has become involved in social and political issues. His support for Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has caused controversy and he was widely criticised in 2018 after posing with him for a photograph. Erdogan was also best man at Özil’s wedding in June.

Özil is the second Arsenal player in as many days to air forthright political views on social media. On Thursday, with polls open for the general election, Héctor Bellerín tweeted: “Young people across the world have a chance to change what the future can be. Today’s the chance for all the British people to influence what your future and those living here holds. #****Boris #GoVote.”

On that occasion, the club did not issue a statement in response.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-from-mesut-ozil-comments-china-uighur-people
 
Arsenal's Ozil criticizes Muslim silence over Uighurs

England's Premier League club Arsenal star Mesut Ozil on Friday accused Muslims of staying silent over what he called China’s persecution of Uighurs in Xinjiang.

On his Instagram account, Ozil wrote under the headline, "East Turkistan: Bleeding Wound of Islamic Ummah,” calling Uighurs “warriors who resist persecution... Glorious believers who put up a fight alone against these who forcefully move people away from Islam.”

In China, he wrote: “Qurans are burned... Mosques were closed down... Islamic theological schools, Madrasahs were banned ... Religious scholars were killed one by one ... Despite all this, Muslims stay quiet.”

"Don't they know that giving consent for persecution is persecution itself? The honorable Ali, son-in-law of the Prophet Muhammad, says, 'If you cannot prevent persecution, expose it," he added.

China is accused of carrying out repressive policies against the Uighur, a Turkic Muslim group, and restraining their religious, commercial and cultural rights.

China’s Xinjiang region is home to around 10 million Uighurs. The Turkic Muslim group, which makes up around 45% of Xinjiang’s population, has long accused China’s authorities of cultural, religious and economic discrimination.

Up to one million people, or about 7% of the Muslim population in Xinjiang, have been incarcerated in an expanding network of “political re-education” camps, according to U.S. officials and UN experts.

In a report last September, Human Rights Watch accused the Chinese government of carrying out a “systematic campaign of human rights violations” against Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/arsenals-ozil-criticizes-muslim-silence-over-uighurs/1673150
 
Wow, well done mesut.
I have always wondered why public people don't speak up about this issue more. ( Well I know that answer but still!!)
 
Respect to Him for speaking, very tough considering China’s clout.
 
Respect to Ozil

Arsenal has distanced themselves tho
 
Huge respect for Erdogan and Özil unlike current PM of Pakistan that has taste for cowardice.
 
Once upon a time people and corporations were scared of criticizing anything related to Israel.
Now they are scared of saying anything negative about China
 
and cannot help but point out Arsenals hypocrisy

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-from-mesut-ozil-comments-china-uighur-people


Özil is the second Arsenal player in as many days to air forthright political views on social media. On Thursday, with polls open for the general election, Héctor Bellerín tweeted: “Young people across the world have a chance to change what the future can be. Today’s the chance for all the British people to influence what your future and those living here holds. #****Boris #GoVote.”

On that occasion, the club did not issue a statement in response.
 
and cannot help but point out Arsenals hypocrisy

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-from-mesut-ozil-comments-china-uighur-people


Özil is the second Arsenal player in as many days to air forthright political views on social media. On Thursday, with polls open for the general election, Héctor Bellerín tweeted: “Young people across the world have a chance to change what the future can be. Today’s the chance for all the British people to influence what your future and those living here holds. #****Boris #GoVote.”

On that occasion, the club did not issue a statement in response.

What about the hypocrisy of Ozil? Why doesn’t he have a problem with the war criminal Erdogan committing mass human rights violations against the Kurds? What the Chinese are doing is highly condemnable but as a football club, Arsenal are not in a position to take a stand on it.

China is a huge market for Arsenal and they cannot shoot themselves in the foot. They will come across as hypocrites only if they condemn India, Israel etc. and then turn a blind eye to China, but they like other clubs are distancing themselves from these conflicts altogether.

Ozil is becoming a complete liability for the club with his pathetic performances on the pitch and his hypocrisy on social media. Footballers should stay out of commenting on conflicts because they unnecessarily drag their clubs into controversy.
 
Has ozil spoken out about the kashmir occupation by indians, or is he guilty of the same thing he is preaching about?
 
As I said in the other thread, Ozil is becoming a huge liability for Arsenal not only because of his pathetic performances but also because of his hypocrisy. Why doesn’t he have a problem with his friend, the war criminal Erdogan, committing human rights violations against the Kurds? Turkey, like certain other countries, has no credibility when it comes to condemning others for atrocities.

China is a huge market for Arsenal and they have to distance themselves from Ozil’s hypocrisy. People who are calling Arsenal out on their hypocrisy need to realize that they (like other clubs) distance themselves from all conflicts. It is not like they pick and choose.

Footballers should refrain from commenting on these issues on their social media because they unnecessarily drag their clubs into controversies. As a result of his hypocrisy, the Arsenal vs Man City will not be telecasted in China and thus it will have repercussions from both clubs.

The only positive that has come out of this is that Arsenal will look to push him out of the club quickly. They are desperately to sell him anyway but no one wants to pay him his wages. Too bad he cannot be sold to China anymore who would have been more than willing to overpay him.
 
As I said in the other thread, Ozil is becoming a huge liability for Arsenal not only because of his pathetic performances but also because of his hypocrisy. Why doesn’t he have a problem with his friend, the war criminal Erdogan, committing human rights violations against the Kurds? Turkey, like certain other countries, has no credibility when it comes to condemning others for atrocities.

China is a huge market for Arsenal and they have to distance themselves from Ozil’s hypocrisy. People who are calling Arsenal out on their hypocrisy need to realize that they (like other clubs) distance themselves from all conflicts. It is not like they pick and choose.

Footballers should refrain from commenting on these issues on their social media because they unnecessarily drag their clubs into controversies. As a result of his hypocrisy, the Arsenal vs Man City will not be telecasted in China and thus it will have repercussions from both clubs.

The only positive that has come out of this is that Arsenal will look to push him out of the club quickly. They are desperately to sell him anyway but no one wants to pay him his wages. Too bad he cannot be sold to China anymore who would have been more than willing to overpay him.

An idiot from anfield once said something on the lines of
"Football is not about life or death, its more important than that."

Unfortunately, people of this type of mindset still exist today!

Especially, worrying when it comes from a doctor!
 
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An idiot from anfield once said something on the lines of
"Football is not about life or death, its more important than that."

Unfortunately, people of this type of mindset still exist today!

Especially, worrying when it comes from a doctor!

You need to live in the real world and not some utopian fantasy. Arsenal has a brand value of almost a billion USD and is extremely popular in China.

Not sure what my profession has to do it. You can’t put humanity over everything. Some put humanity over money like Arsenal, while others put humanity over nationality and friendship like Ozil, who refuses to condemn Erdogan for his war crimes against the Kurds.

Speaking of doctors, do you know that cancer hospitals throughout the world regularly refuse to treat cancer patients who have very little chance of survival?

You would probably call it inhumane and it surely is, but the reality is that the money and investment that will be spent on such patients can be better utilized on cancer patients who have greater chances of survival. That is how it is.

It would be completely stupid of Arsenal to offend their fan base in China and lower their brand value because of their treatment of Uyghurs.
 
You need to live in the real world and not some utopian fantasy. Arsenal has a brand value of almost a billion USD and is extremely popular in China.

Not sure what my profession has to do it. You can’t put humanity over everything. Some put humanity over money like Arsenal, while others put humanity over nationality and friendship like Ozil, who refuses to condemn Erdogan for his war crimes against the Kurds.

Speaking of doctors, do you know that cancer hospitals throughout the world regularly refuse to treat cancer patients who have very little chance of survival?

You would probably call it inhumane and it surely is, but the reality is that the money and investment that will be spent on such patients can be better utilized on cancer patients who have greater chances of survival. That is how it is.

It would be completely stupid of Arsenal to offend their fan base in China and lower their brand value because of their treatment of Uyghurs.

Spot on. But you need to remember the IQ of people calling out Arsenal for hypocrisy - usually a single digit number. Arsenal have to distance themselves - the money for football, and ironically that pays Özil’s wages comes from sponsors. Not ticket sales, not merchandise but whether or not a sponsor wants to spend a lot of money to be associated with the football brand.

China is right up there with Europe in £value - for some clubs its estimated worth is touching a third of a billion and sponsors want to buddy up with football clubs because it gives them access to markets otherwise inaccessible using sport as the Trojan horse.

And then there is use of the clubs owned and operated media platforms to ‘piggy back’ off the higher reach potential. Which if you’re a large brand is worth an incredible amount - that’s why the shirt for football clubs is the most prized asset.

For those plebs crying hypocrisy - you have no idea how the cash flow works in football.
 
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You need to live in the real world and not some utopian fantasy. Arsenal has a brand value of almost a billion USD and is extremely popular in China.

Not sure what my profession has to do it. You can’t put humanity over everything. Some put humanity over money like Arsenal, while others put humanity over nationality and friendship like Ozil, who refuses to condemn Erdogan for his war crimes against the Kurds.

Speaking of doctors, do you know that cancer hospitals throughout the world regularly refuse to treat cancer patients who have very little chance of survival?

You would probably call it inhumane and it surely is, but the reality is that the money and investment that will be spent on such patients can be better utilized on cancer patients who have greater chances of survival. That is how it is.

It would be completely stupid of Arsenal to offend their fan base in China and lower their brand value because of their treatment of Uyghurs.

"You can’t put humanity over everything."

And that about somes it up

In the UK, we treat terminal cancer patients, with high dosed morphine and though euthanasia is illegal, its common practice in hospital to precribe a dosage that is to strong for the patients body to withstand and they pass away peacefully, and no longer have to endure the pain.

Of course ozil is a hypocrite, doesn't speak out on the oppression of kurds, kashmiris , rohingyas, as far as i am aware.
If i am wrong, then can someone correct me, thanks!

But aresnal have no morals, taking chinese money, just like joshua fighting in saudi with all its human rights abuses, or international cricketers playing in the ipl, with all the kashmirian abuses.
Money truely is the God for some., but if these abused people were white, then .....?

Nothing to do with utopia or dystopia, just to do with a decent world.
 
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China's state broadcaster CCTV has removed Sunday's Arsenal-Manchester City game from its schedule after comments made by Gunners midfielder Mesut Ozil, state media has reported.

Ozil posted on social media about the treatment of Uighur Muslims in China.

Arsenal distanced the club from the German's views, saying it was "always apolitical as an organisation".

The Global Times described Ozil's comments as "false" and claimed he had "disappointed" football authorities.

In addition, the Chinese Football Association said Ozil's comments were "unacceptable" and had "hurt the feelings" of Chinese fans.

CCTV will now show Sunday's game between Tottenham and Wolves, instead of a live broadcast of Arsenal's home match with the reigning Premier League champions.

In his social media post Ozil, who is a Muslim, called Uighurs "warriors who resist persecution" and criticised both China and the silence of Muslims in response.

China has consistently denied mistreating Uighur Muslims in the country.

Rights groups say about a million people - mostly from the Muslim Uighur community - are thought to have been detained without trial in high-security prison camps.

China says they are being educated in "vocational training centres" to combat violent religious extremism.

In October, the US National Basketball Association suffered financial losses after an online comment from a team executive prompted a crisis in its relations with China.

Houston Rockets' manager Daryl Morey had tweeted support for pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong.

As a result, Chinese firms suspended sponsorship and telecast deals.

Analysis
Robin Brant, BBC China correspondent in Beijing

A few weeks ago I asked someone who is an expert on China-UK relations if the Premier League could face an 'NBA moment' if or when a player criticised China in public.

English football's top flight is such a global phenomenon, so diverse in its range of players, so vast in its audience spread.

The answer to my question was clearly yes.

The NBA's crisis in China showed how serious and how immediate the impact on commercial interests could be.

So important is football to the UK and its soft power that very senior British diplomats have pondered the impact on UK China relations of something like this.

The reaction to Ozil's comments appears more muted compared to Daryl Morey's Hong Kong support.

China's state machinery went after the NBA, not just the man and club. On this occasion it's targeting Ozil and to a limited extent Arsenal.

Any lasting damage here is likely to be sustained by him personally. Although there will also be some praise and support. You just won't hear about that in China's state-run media.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50799009
 
He should be sold. He isn't a fit for modern day premier league football and he has lost the motivation.

Time to move on.
 
He should be sold. He isn't a fit for modern day premier league football and he has lost the motivation.

Time to move on.

Feel bit bad for him. He ain't that player who tracks back. And the way Arsenal been playing hasn't helped for sure and most of the times he has been made a scapegoat.
 
What about the hypocrisy of Ozil? Why doesn’t he have a problem with the war criminal Erdogan committing mass human rights violations against the Kurds? What the Chinese are doing is highly condemnable but as a football club, Arsenal are not in a position to take a stand on it.

China is a huge market for Arsenal and they cannot shoot themselves in the foot. They will come across as hypocrites only if they condemn India, Israel etc. and then turn a blind eye to China, but they like other clubs are distancing themselves from these conflicts altogether.

Ozil is becoming a complete liability for the club with his pathetic performances on the pitch and his hypocrisy on social media. Footballers should stay out of commenting on conflicts because they unnecessarily drag their clubs into controversy.

China is a huge market for Pakistan to and am not sure but you may have criticised Imran Khan for a similar position to Arsenal for similar reasons potentially
 
Arsenal's Mesut Ozil was "deceived by fake news" before criticising China's treatment of Uighur Muslims, says the country's foreign ministry spokesman.

Ozil, who is a Muslim, called Uighurs "warriors who resist persecution" in a post on social media and criticised both China and the silence of Muslims in response.

But Geng Shuang said the German midfielder, 31, has been "influenced by untruthful remarks" and invited him to visit the autonomous Xinjiang region and "have a look" for himself.

Rights groups say about a million people - mostly from the Muslim Uighur community - are thought to have been detained without trial in high-security prison camps.

China has consistently denied mistreating Uighur Muslims in the country and says they are being educated in "vocational training centres" to combat violent religious extremism.

Following Ozil's comments, China's state broadcaster CCTV removed Arsenal's Premier League match against Manchester City from its schedule.

The 2014 World Cup winner's fan club on Chinese search engine Baidu has been removed by its founder, who said in a statement: "In front of national interest, any individual hobby doesn't matter any more."

On social media website Weibo, Ozil's account, which has four million followers, was still there on Monday morning, but there has been no update since 11 December.

Geng said: "I don't know if Mr Ozil has been to Xinjiang himself - but it seems he has been deceived by fake news, and that his judgment was influenced by untruthful remarks.

"If Mr Ozil has the opportunity, we will be pleased to see him go to Xinjiang and have a look."

Earlier, The Global Times described Ozil's comments as "false" and claimed he had "disappointed" football authorities.

The Chinese Football Association said his comments were "unacceptable" and had "hurt the feelings" of Chinese fans.

On Saturday, Arsenal distanced the club from the German's views, saying it was "always apolitical as an organisation".

Ozil played in the Gunners' 3-0 home defeat by Manchester City on Sunday. He reacted angrily to being substituted and he was booed by his own fans as he walked off the pitch at Emirates Stadium.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50807043
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...nts-after-chinas-angry-reaction-a4314666.html


Premier League clubs could face losing out on millions of pounds in sponsorship and broadcast deals from China after Arsenal’s Mesut Ozil criticised the country’s treatment of its Muslim Uighur population, a football finance expert has warned.

Ozil last week criticised the treatment of the Uighur people in the region of Xinjiang after reports from human rights groups alleged that people were being held in camps without trial.


China’s state broadcaster CCTV yesterday pulled Arsenal’s game against Manchester City, opting instead to show Wolves vs Tottenham, while the Chinese FA branded Ozil’s comments as “unacceptable”. Arsenal were quick to distance themselves from Ozil’s statement, saying the club was “always apolitical”.

China is a vital overseas market for the Premier League. Their rights deal with Chinese broadcasters is the largest ever with overseas rights holders and worth £564million. Wolves and Southampton have Chinese owners, while champions City, along with Wolves, Newcastle and West Ham, took part in the Asia Trophy in China during the summer.


Finance expert Kieran Maguire said: “Clearly this is a warning sign from the Chinese broadcaster that they are watching not just the football but the players and everything they say. This could hurt clubs on an individual basis because it is the merchandising and pre-season tour market which they feel is an opportunity to grow individual club revenues.

“The Chinese media tends to align the views of the populous and from a business point of view it is not something you particular want to upset. Clearly, they are upset by Ozil’s comments.”

In October, the NBA were hit with financial losses after Houston Rockets’ manager Daryl Morey took to Twitter in support of pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong, leading to Chinese sponsors and broadcasters suspending deals.
 
China is a huge market for Pakistan to and am not sure but you may have criticised Imran Khan for a similar position to Arsenal for similar reasons potentially

There is a difference between Arsenal and Imran. Arsenal is a football club that like other clubs have avoided to comment on conflicts. It is not like they go out of their way to criticize India, Israel, Turkey etc. but turn a blind eye to China’s atrocities.

On the other hand, Imran dons the humanitarian hat when it comes to Kashmir and Palestine but completely ignores the state policy of China. His critics understand the reasons behind why he is forced to ignore China, but his supporters need to be more honest and open about those reasons instead of coming up with disingenuous excuses.
 
There is a difference between Arsenal and Imran. Arsenal is a football club that like other clubs have avoided to comment on conflicts. It is not like they go out of their way to criticize India, Israel, Turkey etc. but turn a blind eye to China’s atrocities.

On the other hand, Imran dons the humanitarian hat when it comes to Kashmir and Palestine but completely ignores the state policy of China. His critics understand the reasons behind why he is forced to ignore China, but his supporters need to be more honest and open about those reasons instead of coming up with disingenuous excuses.

Did Nawaz Sharif criticize the Chinese?
 
Did Nawaz Sharif criticize the Chinese?

He didn’t go out of his way to play the fake humanity card over Kashmir either. Besides, how is this relevant? We can’t put Imran on a pedestal and call him a savior and then compare him to the likes of Nawaz.
 
He didn’t go out of his way to play the fake humanity card over Kashmir either. Besides, how is this relevant? We can’t put Imran on a pedestal and call him a savior and then compare him to the likes of Nawaz.

His statements as Prime Minister and statements from his cabinet say otherwise. His speech at the UN in 2016 was mainly about Kashmir.
 
His statements as Prime Minister and statements from his cabinet say otherwise. His speech at the UN in 2016 was mainly about Kashmir.

The script was provided by the military. Nawaz is a pacifist in his own right who has always tried to forge diplomatic relations with India and ultimately it proved to be his downfall.

He was ousted by Musharraf in 1999 because the commando never forgave him for cutting his humiliation short in Kargil, and then he was ousted in 2017 because he started to dictate the foreign policy. All this Panama Leaks and corruption charges were pretexts. In Pakistan, once your relationship is soured with the military as PM, it is curtains for you.

Imran will ultimately suffer the same fate. The pretext in his case would be the foreign funding.
 
The script was provided by the military. Nawaz is a pacifist in his own right who has always tried to forge diplomatic relations with India and ultimately it proved to be his downfall.

He was ousted by Musharraf in 1999 because the commando never forgave him for cutting his humiliation short in Kargil, and then he was ousted in 2017 because he started to dictate the foreign policy. All this Panama Leaks and corruption charges were pretexts. In Pakistan, once your relationship is soured with the military as PM, it is curtains for you.

Imran will ultimately suffer the same fate. The pretext in his case would be the foreign funding.

Isn't the script for Imran also provided by the military? Then he can also be excused :)
 
Isn't the script for Imran also provided by the military? Then he can also be excused :)

If Imran supporters accept the above then he will not be criticized for his double-standards on Kashmir and China/Turkey.
 
Good job Ozil! Wish other footballers would follow and be vocal for other Muslims and oppressed people
 
There is a difference between Arsenal and Imran. Arsenal is a football club that like other clubs have avoided to comment on conflicts. It is not like they go out of their way to criticize India, Israel, Turkey etc. but turn a blind eye to China’s atrocities.

On the other hand, Imran dons the humanitarian hat when it comes to Kashmir and Palestine but completely ignores the state policy of China. His critics understand the reasons behind why he is forced to ignore China, but his supporters need to be more honest and open about those reasons instead of coming up with disingenuous excuses.

Arsenal did not take a similar stance publicly when it came to the recent general election here in the UK though and some of the comments which were being made but they have decided to distance themselves on this China issue much like Imran for similar reasons.
 
Arsenal did not take a similar stance publicly when it came to the recent general election here in the UK though and some of the comments which were being made but they have decided to distance themselves on this China issue much like Imran for similar reasons.

I presume you are referring to Bellerin’s tweet. There is a clear difference between your player supporting a particular party in your own country compared to criticizing the government of another country for human rights violations. However, Bellerin used the F word for Boris and Arsenal should have reprimanded him. Jeremy Corbyn is an Arsenal fan but that doesn’t give the players the license to abuse Boris.

Nonetheless, the Bellerin’s tweet and Ozil’s hypocrisy are not comparable in my opinion. Instead of criticizing China, Ozil should concentrate on playing well for a change and should take note of his buddy Erdogan’s actions against the Kurds.
 
Mesut Ozil: Amnesty International urges Arsenal not to 'buckle under pressure' from China
Amnesty International asks Arsenal to support Ozil and allow him "to freely express his opinions"


Amnesty International regional director Nicholas Bequelin says Arsenal must not "buckle under pressure" from China and stifle Mesut Ozil's right to free speech.

Ozil, who is a Muslim of Turkish descent, posted on social media about the alleged mistreatment of Uighur Muslims in China, calling them "warriors who resist persecution".

The midfielder's remarks led to reports that their match against Manchester City was dropped from Chinese state television schedules, while China's foreign ministry spokesman said Ozil had been deceived by "fake news".

Arsenal's game against Manchester City was reportedly dropped from Chinese state television schedules
Bequelin says it is essential Arsenal do not succumb to any potential pressure placed on them.

"With their player being quite heavily criticised by some in China, it's important that Arsenal doesn't buckle under pressure and attempt to stifle Ozil's right to freely express his opinions."

Arsenal distanced themselves from Ozil's views, sharing a statement on Weibo that said it was "entirely his personal opinion", and that the club does not involve itself in politics.
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/17/mike-pompeo-mesut-china-uighur-persecution

Mike Pompeo backs Mesut Özil in criticism of China's Uighur persecution

US secretary of state Mike Pompeo on Tuesday came out in support of Arsenal player Mesut Özil for his criticism of China’s treatment of ethnic Uighur Muslims, saying Beijing can censor the team’s football games but cannot hide human rights violations.

The Arsenal midfielder, a German Muslim of Turkish origin, last week in social media posts called Uighurs “warriors who resist persecution” and criticized both China’s crackdown and the silence of Muslims in response.

China’s state broadcaster CCTV on Sunday removed Arsenal’s Premier League game against Manchester City from its broadcast schedule.

“China’s Communist Party propaganda outlets can censor Mesut Özil and Arsenal’s game all season long, but the truth will prevail,” Pompeo tweeted. “The CCP can’t hide its gross human rights violations perpetrated against Uighurs and other religious faiths from the world.”

The United Nations and human rights groups estimate that between 1m and 2m people, mostly ethnic Uighur Muslims, have been detained in harsh conditions in Xinjiang as part of what Beijing calls an antiterrorism campaign.

China has repeatedly denied any mistreatment of Uighurs.

On Monday, China’s Foreign Ministry said Özil “had been completely deceived by fake news and false statements”.

Washington has been ratcheting up its criticism of Beijing over Uighurs simultaneously as it has continued its trade deal negotiations. US president Donald Trump in November signed into law congressional legislation backing protesters in Hong Kong despite angry objections from China.

Earlier this month, the US house of representatives passed legislation requiring a stronger response to Beijing’s treatment of its Uighur Muslim minority.

What started as demonstrations against a now-withdrawn bill allowing extradition from Hong Kong to mainland China has morphed into calls for greater democratic freedoms and nearly six months of sometimes violent protests in Hong Kong. Beijing has condemned the unrest and blamed foreign interference.

Arsenal on Saturday tried to distance itself from Özil’s comments after he posted messages on Twitter and Instagram. “The content he expressed is entirely Özil’s personal opinion,” the official account of Arsenal said in a post on China’s Twitter-like Weibo platform.

The controversy is the latest between the sports industry and China. In October, an executive with the National Basketball Association expressed support for the pro-democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong, angering Beijing and suddenly putting on shaky ground the league’s estimated $4bn market in China.
 
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Well atleast he started the dialogue in England..

It's the first time I am reading supportive comments about Ozil in a long time in the media, but that is because he is having a go at China, which coincides with our own views on the Chinese.
 
Mesut Ozil has "a right to express his opinion" but does not speak for Arsenal in his criticism of China's treatment of Uighur Muslims, says Arsene Wenger.

Midfielder Ozil, who is a Muslim, called Uighurs "warriors who resist persecution" and criticised both China and the silence of Muslims in response.

Arsenal said the club is "apolitical" and China's foreign ministry claimed Ozil was "deceived by fake news".

"What he says is about himself and not Arsenal," said ex-Gunners boss Wenger.

"Mesut Ozil has freedom of speech like everyone else and he uses his notoriety to express his opinions, which are not necessarily shared by everybody.

"What's important is that Ozil has an individual responsibility. He doesn't have to carry the word of Arsenal Football Club. When you make a comment about your individual opinion you accept the consequences of it."

Rights groups say about a million people - mostly from the Muslim Uighur community - are thought to have been detained without trial in high-security prison camps.

China has consistently denied mistreating Uighur Muslims in the country and says they are being educated in "vocational training centres" to combat violent religious extremism.

Secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain Harun Khan said Ozil's actions were "hugely commendable" and described Arsenal's decision to distance themselves from the 31-year-old German's views as "regrettable".

'Human rights are important and Fifa is conscious of that'
Wenger, now world governing body Fifa's chief of global football development, was speaking in Doha, before the Club World Cup semi-final between Mexican side Monterrey and Liverpool.

Concerns have been expressed about Qatar hosting the event, as well as the 2022 World Cup, because of its stance on homosexuality and immigrant workers' rights, among other issues.

According to a report by the International Trades Union Confederation (ITUC) in 2013, more than 1,200 workers from Nepal and India had died on construction projects in the country linked to the World Cup, including non-football infrastructure schemes, in the previous three years.

The ITUC said at the time that if deaths continued at that rate then they could reach 4,000 - although it has now dropped its complaints against Qatar following improvements in workers' rights in the country.

Qatar has always disputed those figures, saying the deaths cannot be linked directly to the World Cup.

In February, Amnesty International said that although progress has been made, Qatar "must step up efforts to honour labour rights promises" before the tournament begins.

Wenger says the situation in the country "has improved tremendously" because of the World Cup, adding: "Human rights are important and Fifa is very conscious of that.

"There are two possible attitudes: keep out of it or use the power you have to improve things. That's what Fifa tried to do."

'Arteta has a great future'
Frenchman Wenger landed the role with Fifa - his first job in football since leaving Arsenal after a near 22-year reign in May 2018 - in November.

After he stepped down as Gunners boss, Unai Emery was at the helm for 18 months before being sacked and the club are now searching for a new manager, with Freddie Ljungberg in temporary charge.

Manchester City coach Mikel Arteta has spoken with senior Arsenal figures and Wenger thinks the Spaniard is a good choice - as long as he has the right support.

"He's intelligent, he has passion and knowledge - but so does Ljungberg," said Wenger, who managed both former midfielders at Arsenal. "Mikel Arteta has a great future. He learned a lot in his position as assistant coach.

"He will have to deal with the fact that he has no experience at that level. He will have to be surrounded by a good environment at the club."

Mikel Arteta
Manchester City assistant manager Mikel Arteta has spoken with senior Arsenal figures about the Gunners job
'I would have jumped in front of the VAR monitor'
Wenger has not been away from the game for long, but there have been changes, with video assistant referees (VAR) introduced in the Premier League at the start of this season.

The new technology has caused controvers and fans have been frustrated by delays in play while decisions are made.

Wenger said he "would have jumped in front of the monitor" if VAR had been used when he was manager and admitted the system needed to be improved.

"You have to give us time to make it more efficient and quicker," he explained. "It cannot be perfect in the first year.

"The main target is to get more right decisions, and that is what is achieved. We'll work hard to get the system better with the referees."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50835754
 
Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil has been removed from China's version of the Pro Evolution Soccer 2020 video game following his criticism of China's treatment of Uighur Muslims.

Ozil, who is a Muslim, called Uighurs "warriors who resist persecution".

He also criticised both China and the silence of Muslims in response.

NetEase, which publishes the PES franchise in China, said the former Germany player had been removed from three existing titles in the country.

"The German player Ozil posted an extreme statement about China on social media," it said in a statement.

"The speech hurt the feelings of Chinese fans and violated the sports spirit of love and peace. We do not understand, accept or forgive this."

Arsenal said the club is "apolitical" and China's foreign ministry claimed 31-year-old Ozil - who is of Turkish origin - was "deceived by fake news".

Rights groups say about a million people - mostly from the Muslim Uighur community - are thought to have been detained without trial in high-security prison camps.

China has consistently denied mistreating Uighur Muslims in the country and says they are being educated in "vocational training centres" to combat violent religious extremism.

Harun Khan, the Secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said Ozil's actions were "hugely commendable" and described Arsenal's decision to distance themselves from Ozil's views as "regrettable".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50843797
 
It's the first time I am reading supportive comments about Ozil in a long time in the media, but that is because he is having a go at China, which coincides with our own views on the Chinese.

Yes , I also think he put Arsenal in a spot in case if they were about to release him but now who knows..
 
So what is the official position of Arsenal and EPL on it? Publications should ask them that, would make it very interesting.. also should ask Ozil his position on Turkey and Kurds..but that's the responsibility of Germans..
 
Mesut's words are brave and true. Now he can send those people some serious money if he is really concerned if he did not seek cheap publicity.
 
Feel bit bad for him. He ain't that player who tracks back. And the way Arsenal been playing hasn't helped for sure and most of the times he has been made a scapegoat.

It's not even about him tracking back. He isn't creating as much as he once was .
 
Mesut's words are brave and true. Now he can send those people some serious money if he is really concerned if he did not seek cheap publicity.

Not sure if he sendss it to them, he does do a lot of charity work
Obviously it’s affected a lot of turkish people which is probably why ozil who has a Turkish wife has spoken up about it’s
 
Lol yep the Human Rights defender of his fellow Turkic people...

Gotta love how he fights for the Human Rights of the Kurds right? ;) ...
 
Lol yep the Human Rights defender of his fellow Turkic people...

Gotta love how he fights for the Human Rights of the Kurds right? ;) ...

Whataboutism in 5th gear. Have you been on here fighting the rights of the Uighurs to show your even handed view?
 
Whataboutism in 5th gear. Have you been on here fighting the rights of the Uighurs to show your even handed view?

It's not whataboutism at all...

As I stated it's a Turkic thing...in the original tweet he posted a flag of East Turkestan which is currently Xinjiang...it's a show of ethnic solidarity...

And he openly supports Erdogan who is currently doing quite a job on the Kurds in Syria...and has done for a long time...

Thus hardly Muslim solidarity as some have suggested here...just ethnic...
 
Good one - when someone does something good, down come the vultures with "Oh why didnt he do blah blah" comments.

Shameful behaviour.
 
Good one - when someone does something good, down come the vultures with "Oh why didnt he do blah blah" comments.

Shameful behaviour.

Not really...it's not like I posted why isn't he defending the Rohingya...that would be whataboutism...

What i'm stating is a guy who openly supports Erdogan and had him as best man at his wedding playing the Muslim card and speaking about silence...is very silent about his friend massacring Muslim Kurds...it's not particularly credible...

And as stated the Uighur he referred to as part of East Turkestan...it's an ethnic link...

He's benefited his brand and shafted his club ...
 
Not really...it's not like I posted why isn't he defending the Rohingya...that would be whataboutism...

What i'm stating is a guy who openly supports Erdogan and had him as best man at his wedding playing the Muslim card and speaking about silence...is very silent about his friend massacring Muslim Kurds...it's not particularly credible...

And as stated the Uighur he referred to as part of East Turkestan...it's an ethnic link...

He's benefited his brand and shafted his club ...

He didn't say aything about the Kurds, just because he is a supporter of Erdogan doesn't mean he supports every policy. Just like you staying silent about the UIghurs doesn't necessarily mean you would be happy to see them tortured or brainwashed, despite your overwhelmingly anti-Islam posts.
 
He didn't say aything about the Kurds, just because he is a supporter of Erdogan doesn't mean he supports every policy. Just like you staying silent about the UIghurs doesn't necessarily mean you would be happy to see them tortured or brainwashed, despite your overwhelmingly anti-Islam posts.


I'm not a public figure...so comparing him to me is a bit of moot point...what does my opinion matter...my best man isn't massacring civilians either...

But let's break down his tweet...

"The Muslim community is mute,"

"Don't they know that years later what our brothers and sisters will remember of these bitter days is not the torture of the oppressors but the silence of their Muslim brothers?"

I never stated he supports the murder of the Kurds...but he's rather silent about those other Muslim brothers...point is selective silence...bit rich to cuss the silence of others when he is self serving...

And like I said it's a Turkish thing...

"Oh Lord, please help our brothers and sisters in East Turkestan."

"Oh East Turkestan"

Fair enough to give him props for standing up for his Turkish brothers...just the silence part is quite ironic...just saying the general human rights and Muslim angle makes him look like a hypocrite...
 
Not really...it's not like I posted why isn't he defending the Rohingya...that would be whataboutism...

What i'm stating is a guy who openly supports Erdogan and had him as best man at his wedding playing the Muslim card and speaking about silence...is very silent about his friend massacring Muslim Kurds...it's not particularly credible...

And as stated the Uighur he referred to as part of East Turkestan...it's an ethnic link...

He's benefited his brand and shafted his club ...

He is saying that Muslims in China are persecuted. Which part of that statement do you disagree with?
 
He is saying that Muslims in China are persecuted. Which part of that statement do you disagree with?

Have you actually read the tweet...

He referred to Xinjiang as East Turkestan twice...and posted an East Turkestan flag...that said it's fine to play the Turkish brotherhood thing...

I found the tweet ironic...had it simply been exposing the quite clear crimes of the Chinese then all good...but expect to be called a hypocrite when you ask why people are silent when Muslims are getting killed...especially cos he's pretty silent about what his best man is doing at the moment...
 
Have you actually read the tweet...

He referred to Xinjiang as East Turkestan twice...and posted an East Turkestan flag...that said it's fine to play the Turkish brotherhood thing...

I found the tweet ironic...had it simply been exposing the quite clear crimes of the Chinese then all good...but expect to be called a hypocrite when you ask why people are silent when Muslims are getting killed...especially cos he's pretty silent about what his best man is doing at the moment...

For a moment, ignore the names - think of the people he is talking about and be thankful to him for bringing up the issue.
 
I'm not a public figure...so comparing him to me is a bit of moot point...what does my opinion matter...my best man isn't massacring civilians either...

But let's break down his tweet...

"The Muslim community is mute,"

"Don't they know that years later what our brothers and sisters will remember of these bitter days is not the torture of the oppressors but the silence of their Muslim brothers?"

I never stated he supports the murder of the Kurds...but he's rather silent about those other Muslim brothers...point is selective silence...bit rich to cuss the silence of others when he is self serving...

And like I said it's a Turkish thing...

"Oh Lord, please help our brothers and sisters in East Turkestan."

"Oh East Turkestan"

Fair enough to give him props for standing up for his Turkish brothers...just the silence part is quite ironic...just saying the general human rights and Muslim angle makes him look like a hypocrite...

You are reading far much into what he didn't say instead of reading what he did say. This is because as a self confessed anti-Islam activist, your confirmation bias is searching for stuff to back up your views.

But as you say, your opinion doesn't matter, but everyone is entitled to one, whether you or Tommy Robinson.
 
You are reading far much into what he didn't say instead of reading what he did say. This is because as a self confessed anti-Islam activist, your confirmation bias is searching for stuff to back up your views.

But as you say, your opinion doesn't matter, but everyone is entitled to one, whether you or Tommy Robinson.

Youre kind of a perfect example of the low form of debate that exists in this day and age...the resort to ad hominem...

Self-confessed anti-Islam activist....you're not as good a KKWC and his hyperbole...I believe he called me a Mossad agent...

I do suggest you look up what the word activist means...you evidently have no idea what it is...
 
Lol, you must think people haven't read your previous posts. This one is fairly tame by your standards, but following the usual formula, because let's face it, you don't really have much else to talk about.
 
One of the world's best-known rugby players has become the latest sports star to criticise China for its treatment of the Muslim Uighur population.

In a Twitter post, Sonny Bill Williams also criticised others for choosing "economic benefits over humanity".

Arsenal footballer Mesut Ozil recently spoke out on the issue.

China has been accused of a "mass internment" of one million Muslims in the Xinjiang region.

Williams, a Muslim convert from New Zealand, posted an image showing a hand painted with the Chinese flag twisting an arm painted with the flag of East Turkestan - the term used by separatists to refer to Xinjiang.

The East Turkestan arm is dripping with blood.

Williams, who recently signed for rugby league side Toronto Wolfpack, has achieved huge success in both codes of the game - league and union.

He also had a short but successful career in professional boxing.

Sonny Bill Williams: 'I chased girls and drank alcohol - and it only gave me emptiness'
His statement echoes comments made by Arsenal footballer Ozil who criticised both China - and people who stayed silent.

"Korans are being burnt... Mosques are being shut down... Muslims schools are being banned... Brothers are forcefully being sent to camps," the Muslim player tweeted in Turkish, to a background of the East Turkestan flag.

"The Muslims are silent. Their voice is not heard."

China responded furiously, with state television pulling an Arsenal match from TV schedules.

Ozil was also removed from a Chinese version of the Pro Evolution Soccer video game.

A foreign ministry spokesman said he was "deceived by fake news", and invited him to visit the region to "have a look" for himself.

After Ozil's comments, UFC fighter Khabib Nurmagomedov's Instagram account included a post about the history of Uighurs - but the post seems to have been taken down.

More than 20 countries, including Britain, signed a letter earlier in July condemning China's repression of Uighur Muslims.

The US House of Representatives has also passed a bill to counter what it calls the "arbitrary detention, torture, and harassment" of Uighurs.

The bill still needs approval from the Senate and US President Donald Trump.

Who are the Uighurs?

The Uighurs are ethnically Turkic Muslims who live in western China - predominantly in the autonomous region of Xinjiang. They make up under half of the region's roughly 26 million people.

In 2018, a UN rights committee was told there were credible allegations that China had "turned the region into something that resembles a massive internment camp".

Rights groups say those in camps are made to learn Mandarin Chinese, swear their loyalty to Chinese president Xi Jinping, and even renounce their faith in some instances.

Leaked documents seen by the BBC showed that inmates were locked up, indoctrinated and punished.

But the Chinese government says these camps are voluntary, and that they offer education and training to counter extremism.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia...world/asia&link_location=live-reporting-story
 
I see that Muslim community make a lot of noise for other muslim communities on facebook, twitter and so on. I don't really see them getting down to work. Look at the Jewish community for example, their PR work and lobbying ability is next level. I truly feel that Muslims are all just talks when it comes to helping out their "Muslim brothers". Look at the state of Palestine for example.

what do you guys feel ? I'd like to know your honest opinion.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">219 operations are already done, but there’s still many more to come going forward! As my wife Amine and I announced before our wedding in June 2019, we're covering the costs of another 1,000 life-changing surgeries for children in need around the world. 1/3 <a href="https://t.co/HSY8rdiogp">pic.twitter.com/HSY8rdiogp</a></p>— Mesut Özil (@MesutOzil1088) <a href="https://twitter.com/MesutOzil1088/status/1209470651360325632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Ozil's interest has sparked off renewed interest in this cause - well done to him!
 
[MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] mentioned on another thread that Ozil’s absence from the Arsenal team (~7 months now and he hasn’t even made a single match day squad) may have something to do with his China comments.

If true that would be quite something.
 
[MENTION=39031]SpiritOf1903[/MENTION] mentioned on another thread that Ozil’s absence from the Arsenal team (~7 months now and he hasn’t even made a single match day squad) may have something to do with his China comments.

If true that would be quite something.

It seems fairly certain... Alongside supposed match bonuses... Arsenal is a shambles of an organisation. They had Visit Israel sponsorship in 2006 and now have Visit Rwanda- an increasingly dictatorial regime.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mesut Ozil 'believes Arsenal exile is due to his previous criticism of China' <a href="https://t.co/xMz5iH2kOG">https://t.co/xMz5iH2kOG</a></p>— Irish Sun Sport (@IrishSunSport) <a href="https://twitter.com/IrishSunSport/status/1319218459541209090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Wonder if Griezmann will face a similar backlash? A brave (and expensive) move from him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Antoine Griezmann reveals he has ended a partnership with Huawei over accusations the electronics brand tested facial recognition software to aid the repression of the Uighur community by the Chinese government. <a href="https://t.co/oowMpYddlZ">pic.twitter.com/oowMpYddlZ</a></p>— B/R Football (@brfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1337050417335836674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
The treatment by Arsenal has been pretty disgraceful tbf ...ironic considering the whole push for racial equality ...

He’s done some excellent trolling though ...the Gunnersaurus move was quality ...his media team are definitely top notch ...

I like how he’s sat on his contract too...hasn’t let himself be bullied by Arsenal ...

And kudos to Griezmann ...standing up for BLM is the easy thing to do ...criticising China isn’t...
 
The treatment by Arsenal has been pretty disgraceful tbf ...ironic considering the whole push for racial equality ...

He’s done some excellent trolling though ...the Gunnersaurus move was quality ...his media team are definitely top notch ...

I like how he’s sat on his contract too...hasn’t let himself be bullied by Arsenal ...

And kudos to Griezmann ...standing up for BLM is the easy thing to do ...criticising China isn’t...

His media team is great but so is his agent. The way he scammed Arsenal into paying him £350k/week in 2018 when he was finished in 2015, was quite amazing.

In 2018, apart from China (ironically), Qatar and perhaps MLS, no team in any league would have been willing to pay him anything above £200k, and that is why he feigned ‘loyalty’ and stayed at Arsenal.

The fact that he has been frozen out of the squad probably doesn’t even bother him as much as it should. He recently had a kid, he gets payed a fortune to play Fortnite all day long, and these days he is more interested in PR stuff than football.

He has been banished by Arsenal because they have to protect their interests in Chinese market. If we are going to criticize football clubs and leagues for virtue signaling and fake solidarity, then we need to criticize players as well.

It was not right for Ozil to publicly criticize China and drag Arsenal into an unnecessary controversy.

Besides, Ozil is a hypocrite as well. He has a problem with China’s ethnic cleansing of Muslims but has no problem with his war criminal friend Erdogan killing Kurdish Muslims.
 
His media team is great but so is his agent. The way he scammed Arsenal into paying him £350k/week in 2018 when he was finished in 2015, was quite amazing.

In 2018, apart from China (ironically), Qatar and perhaps MLS, no team in any league would have been willing to pay him anything above £200k, and that is why he feigned ‘loyalty’ and stayed at Arsenal.

The fact that he has been frozen out of the squad probably doesn’t even bother him as much as it should. He recently had a kid, he gets payed a fortune to play Fortnite all day long, and these days he is more interested in PR stuff than football.

He has been banished by Arsenal because they have to protect their interests in Chinese market. If we are going to criticize football clubs and leagues for virtue signaling and fake solidarity, then we need to criticize players as well.

It was not right for Ozil to publicly criticize China and drag Arsenal into an unnecessary controversy.

Besides, Ozil is a hypocrite as well. He has a problem with China’s ethnic cleansing of Muslims but has no problem with his war criminal friend Erdogan killing Kurdish Muslims.

Arsenal are a has been club so their only actual pull is the wages they offer ...Bellerin gets paid as much as Grealish...Mustafi makes as much as Maddison ...

Partey is getting paid 5 times what he did at Atletico and I won’t get started on Willian...as an agent Arsenal are a great team to deal with ...they’ll pay whatever ...Partey’s agent made £5m himself ...

Never blame players for the contracts a club offers them ...Ozil has every right to sit on his contract...he’s willing to play ...and it’s a bit rich to say his actions on the genocide in China were wrong when the club claims to stand up for these things ...Ozil’s care for the Uighur’s is real...Griezman too cos unlike co-opting BLM you actually have something to lose when you target China...

You can’t have a position which is ‘stand up against inequality except against countries that we make money from.’ This is what makes Arsenal look pathetic in their treatment of him ...

He turns up to training everyday, the players get on with him and he would still walk into that shambles of a team ...so it’s Arsenal’s loss not his...

Everyone picks their causes...Ozil cares about the Uighurs cos their share ethnicity...stones and glass houses come to mind...most are selective in the causes they care about ...

The stuff about feigning loyalty too is meaningless...fans aren’t loyal to players yet expect loyalty in return ...and how are you going to criticise him for taking 150k more a week at Arsenal...it’s Arsenals fault ...

Just like it’s pointless getting angry at Willian...
 
Arsenal are a has been club so their only actual pull is the wages they offer ...Bellerin gets paid as much as Grealish...Mustafi makes as much as Maddison ...

Partey is getting paid 5 times what he did at Atletico and I won’t get started on Willian...as an agent Arsenal are a great team to deal with ...they’ll pay whatever ...Partey’s agent made £5m himself ...

Never blame players for the contracts a club offers them ...Ozil has every right to sit on his contract...he’s willing to play ...and it’s a bit rich to say his actions on the genocide in China were wrong when the club claims to stand up for these things ...Ozil’s care for the Uighur’s is real...Griezman too cos unlike co-opting BLM you actually have something to lose when you target China...

You can’t have a position which is ‘stand up against inequality except against countries that we make money from.’ This is what makes Arsenal look pathetic in their treatment of him ...

He turns up to training everyday, the players get on with him and he would still walk into that shambles of a team ...so it’s Arsenal’s loss not his...

Everyone picks their causes...Ozil cares about the Uighurs cos their share ethnicity...stones and glass houses come to mind...most are selective in the causes they care about ...

The stuff about feigning loyalty too is meaningless...fans aren’t loyal to players yet expect loyalty in return ...and how are you going to criticise him for taking 150k more a week at Arsenal...it’s Arsenals fault ...

Just like it’s pointless getting angry at Willian...

I think you might be a little hasty in calling Arsenal a has been club. Arsenal has not been successful in winning the league in 16 years and has been very poor over the last few years, but it still one of the most respected institutions in English football with a high brand value, a massive, modern stadium, large fan base and is also the third most successful English club historically.

Sure historical success doesn’t hold much value in the commercial era of football, but things change quickly. Arsenal is still a ‘big’ club in its essence and things can look very different with 3-4 solid transfer windows.

Liverpool finished 8th in 2016 and were a million miles away from winning major silverware. Look at them today.

Arsenal will remain far bigger than anyone in English football excluding the likes of United, Liverpool, Chelsea, City and perhaps Spurs as well. They are also big now.

You are defending Ozil for being selective but then you are criticizing Arsenal for doing the same. What’s the difference? Both are protecting their interests.

Ozil cannot afford to speak up against Turkey and Arsenal cannot afford to speak up against China.

I don’t blame him for the wages but some apologists on social media are making him the victim. The reality is that if he wasn’t performing pathetically, it would have been very difficult for Arsenal to freeze him out in spite of his comments on China.

You cannot blame a player for earning high wages but you can certainly blame him when he doesn’t perform to the level that he is expected.
 
The treatment by Arsenal has been pretty disgraceful tbf ...ironic considering the whole push for racial equality ...

He’s done some excellent trolling though ...the Gunnersaurus move was quality ...his media team are definitely top notch ...

I like how he’s sat on his contract too...hasn’t let himself be bullied by Arsenal ...

And kudos to Griezmann ...standing up for BLM is the easy thing to do ...criticising China isn’t...

Agreed, kudos to Griezmann, the vast majority of westerners would have little interest in what's happening in China, although it does highlight that protest is mostly done at individual level, govts tend to stay quiet for political reasons.
 
I think you might be a little hasty in calling Arsenal a has been club. Arsenal has not been successful in winning the league in 16 years and has been very poor over the last few years, but it still one of the most respected institutions in English football with a high brand value, a massive, modern stadium, large fan base and is also the third most successful English club historically.

Sure historical success doesn’t hold much value in the commercial era of football, but things change quickly. Arsenal is still a ‘big’ club in its essence and things can look very different with 3-4 solid transfer windows.

Liverpool finished 8th in 2016 and were a million miles away from winning major silverware. Look at them today.

Arsenal will remain far bigger than anyone in English football excluding the likes of United, Liverpool, Chelsea, City and perhaps Spurs as well. They are also big now.

You are defending Ozil for being selective but then you are criticizing Arsenal for doing the same. What’s the difference? Both are protecting their interests.

Ozil cannot afford to speak up against Turkey and Arsenal cannot afford to speak up against China.

I don’t blame him for the wages but some apologists on social media are making him the victim. The reality is that if he wasn’t performing pathetically, it would have been very difficult for Arsenal to freeze him out in spite of his comments on China.

You cannot blame a player for earning high wages but you can certainly blame him when he doesn’t perform to the level that he is expected.


Arsenal are into their 5th successive season of Europa league football...it’s kinda funny how they use to rinse Spurs for playing Qarabag on Thursdays and now here they are on a consistent basis ...

Players have little interest in ‘history’...we (Villa) are a ‘bigger’ club that Leicester but what does that even matter ....history, stadiums fall behind things like chances of European success and money...

Ask yourself why is it Arsenal pay such inflated wages for players...Partey left Atletico cos they only offered to increase his salary to €67k a week...Arsenal offered £250k...and even then Partey’s dad said he hoped one of the ‘bigger’ clubs would come in for him but they didn’t...

They finished 8th last season and are currently 15th....their trajectory is not one of progress but of a side in the decline ...

As for the difference between Arsenal and Ozil...it’s more like Arsenal and Erdogan...I’ll clarify that in a sec...the presumption of yours is Ozil is furious about what is happening to the Kurds but stays quiet out of fear of Erdogan...is it not more possible that he simply agrees with Erdogan on the Kurdish issue which is significantly nuanced...but he is furious about the Uighur situation?...

The thing about Arsenal and the Erdogan comparison is Arsenal have punished Ozil for his actions...Barce I doubt will do the same with Griezmann...Erdogan would punish those who criticise ...Ozil is the ‘victim’ because his exclusion is down to his political positions not his football ...

Honestly mate trying to suggest that a post prime Ozil wouldn’t walk into this team is just well....

But he is post prime ...the irony being is you can see the same thing happening with Auba...all this clamour over will he or won’t he and then the why won’t he leave our club ...players decline mate ...it’s the players agents role to find the best deal for their player ...why did Willian leave Chelsea?...so if a players performing badly it’s a case of them not being good enough...and whose fault is that?...it’s the clubs...
 
Agreed, kudos to Griezmann, the vast majority of westerners would have little interest in what's happening in China, although it does highlight that protest is mostly done at individual level, govts tend to stay quiet for political reasons.

Be interesting to see what Barce’s response is ...I’d suspect it will be a lot better than Arsenal’s...

I don’t necessarily think it’s lack of interest ...it’s just certain causes tend to be good from a brand building perspective ...might well be players who know about what’s going on...but their agents have told them to stay quiet as have their clubs...the treatment of Ozil would have registered with players ...getting behind ‘popular’ causes is much easier...you’re not losing endorsement deals getting behind BLM...
 
Footballers who play for China's national team have been banned from getting tattoos - and advised to remove ones they have - under a new directive.

The country's sports administration body said recruiting new players with tattoos at national level and to youth squads was "strictly prohibited".

The administration said the move would help set a "good example for society".

Some national stars, including defender Zhang Linpeng, have previously been told to cover their tattoos.

China has been increasingly stepping up regulation since mid-2018 to stop tattoos being shown on screens. Some professional footballers have since been covering their arms with long sleeves to hide their body art.

In a statement, the country's General Administration of Sport (GAS) said national players with tattoos were "advised to have them removed".

"In special circumstances, the tattoos must be covered during training and competition, with the consent of the rest of the team," it said.

In Chinese culture a stigma has been attached to tattoos - in the past they were used to brand criminals and the tattoo still has links to organised crime groups in east Asia. Tattoos among ethnic groups were often seen as a mark of the uncivilised.

They are disapproved of by China's ruling Communist Party, but have become increasingly popular among young Chinese.

Earlier this year, China's broadcasting regulator announced that it was tightening rules on what it described as "unhealthy content".

Television and internet appearances by sports personalities and celebrities have been restricted in cases involving tattoos and men's ponytails - in some instances these have been blurred from screens.

Last December, a women's university football match in China had to be called off after players were told they were not allowed to have dyed hair.

The match organisers, the National Youth Campus Football League, said in a statement at the time: "Athletes at all stages shall not have tattoos, dye their hair, wear weird hairstyles, or wear any accessories, otherwise they will be ineligible for the competition."

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Mesut Ozil: Former Arsenal midfielder excluded from Fenerbahce's first team

Mesut Ozil has been excluded from Fenerbahce's first team, the Turkish club have announced.

The former Arsenal midfielder has been a key player for Fenerbahce since joining the club from the Gunners 14 months ago and captained them in their last league game against Konyaspor, but he was hauled off at half-time in that match.

The Turkish giants have also announced that midfielder Ozan Tufan, who was on loan at Watford at the start of the season before returning to his parent club in February, has also been left out of the first-team squad.

Ozil has been a vital figure in attack for Ismail Kartal's side this season, scoring nine goals and registering three assists in all competitions. But this news will leave the 33-year-old facing a very uncertain future at Fenerbahce.

The Turkish club's president, Ali Koc, announced at the end of last year that Ozil was "unhappy" at the Turkish club due to a desire to play more, but revealed that manager Kartal was struggling to get the best out of the midfielder.

"Ozil wants to play more," Koc said in November. "From now on, he needs to focus on his game and keep his commercial interests out of it. He needs to think about contributing to Fenerbahce.

"Our coach also needs to try to figure out how to get the most out of Ozil. There is not a problem, despite what the media says. Mesut is unhappy because he does not play regularly."

The former Germany international left Arsenal under a cloud of controversy last year after the midfielder fell out with current Gunners coach Mikel Arteta.

The Spanish coach exiled the German, despite him being on a reported £350,000-a-week contract at the Emirates Stadium, for not adhering to the "non-negotiables" that Arteta wanted from his players.

Arteta left Ozil out of his Premier League and Europa League squads at the start of last season, which meant the midfielder did not play a single competitive minute for the Gunners between his final appearance for the club in March 2020 and his departure in January 2021.

During his final season at the Emirates Stadium, Ozil accused Arsenal of not reciprocating his loyalty. He also went against the club's decision to let the team's mascot Gunnersaurus go as matches were played behind closed doors - by offering to reimburse the wages of Jerry Quy, the employee who donned the dinosaur suit.

Meanwhile, in 2019, Arsenal distanced themselves from accusations made by Ozil towards China, with the German claiming that the country were persecuting Uighur Muslims.

When Ozil was axed from the Gunners' first-team squad at the start of the 2020-21 season, the midfielder posted on social media: "I'm really deeply disappointed by the fact that I have not been registered for the Premier League season for the time being.

"Upon signing my new contract in 2018, I pledged my loyalty and allegiance to the club that I love, Arsenal, and it saddens me that this has not been reciprocated.

"As I have just found out, loyalty is hard to come by nowadays. I've always tried to remain positive from week to week that there's maybe a chance to get back in the squad soon again. That's why I kept silent so far."

Ozil helped Arsenal to three FA Cups during his time in north London, making over 250 appearances for the Gunners.

The German failed to score in his first half-season at Fenerbahce, but had scored eight league goals for the club this season.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Praying during the holy night of Lailat al-Qadr for the safety and well-being of our Muslim brothers and sisters in IndiaLet's spread awareness to this shameful situation! What is happening to the human rights in the so-called largest democracy in the world?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BreakTheSilence?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BreakTheSilence</a> <a href="https://t.co/pkS7o1cHV5">pic.twitter.com/pkS7o1cHV5</a></p>— Mesut Özil (@MesutOzil1088) <a href="https://twitter.com/MesutOzil1088/status/1519334869062590473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
The only thing to remember is Ozil spoke out against all this way before any movement had begun. He pointed at constitutional racism that existed in Europe for centuries.

A lot he said actually came out true.

So many in positions of power would stay quiet and continue to do so.
 
The script was provided by the military. Nawaz is a pacifist in his own right who has always tried to forge diplomatic relations with India and ultimately it proved to be his downfall.

He was ousted by Musharraf in 1999 because the commando never forgave him for cutting his humiliation short in Kargil, and then he was ousted in 2017 because he started to dictate the foreign policy. All this Panama Leaks and corruption charges were pretexts. In Pakistan, once your relationship is soured with the military as PM, it is curtains for you.

Imran will ultimately suffer the same fate
. The pretext in his case would be the foreign funding.

Prophetic words
 
Mesut Ozil's contract with Turkish side Fenerbahce has been terminated 2 years early by mutual consent.
 
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