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Minorities being hated for sports loss, Mohammad Shami the latest victim

As long as Indian muslims continue to behave recklessly and provocatively, like openly supporting Pakistan, hindutva extremists will continue to hold power in India. Usually minorities are more educated, but you don't see this among Indian muslim minorities. They are just as crazy as their competition.

Don't try and normalize this theme that Indian Muslims support Pakistan.

Kashmiri Muslims supporting Pak cricket team
is not equal to
Indian Muslims support the Pak cricket team.

That is a section of India that needs to be won over. Not used as a barometer to judge.

And yes, I am aware of Indian Muslims outside of Kashmir who support the Pak cricket team over India, but having grown through the '90s, there has been a definite downward trend. In any case, you usually used to see it in ghettoed areas and the more they get educated, the less they'll feel the need to think like that.
 
errrr, So its the fault of muslims for supporting another team during a cricket match?

Why would they want to support an enemy nation against the country which they are living in? They need check their mental faculties.
 
Why would they want to support an enemy nation against the country which they are living in? They need check their mental faculties.

Who they support is none of your business. Everybody has the freedom of association. This kind of thought control is what Xi Jinping imposes on the Uighurs.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The kind of pressure, struggles & sacrifices a player has to go through for his country & his people is immeasurable. <a href="https://twitter.com/MdShami11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MdShami11</a> is a star & indeed of the best bowlers in the world<br><br>Please respect your stars. This game should bring people together & not divide 'em <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Shami?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Shami</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvIND</a> <a href="https://t.co/3p70Ia8zxf">pic.twitter.com/3p70Ia8zxf</a></p>— Mohammad Rizwan (@iMRizwanPak) <a href="https://twitter.com/iMRizwanPak/status/1452918730044891141?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
To be honest, Shami brought this upon himself by too cozy with the Hindutva elements in India. This is a wake up call for him that he'll never be fully accepted as an Indian by those hypocrites.

It's victim bashing!!! Let's be sensible and stand for the right
 
So that news other day about fake news and hatred was rife in India and causing problems for Facebook is true.
 
Modi bros are just accelerating the decline into a totalitarian state that an extremely communal India is fast becoming. What these jokers don’t realize is that the very reason India has witnessed economic prosperity in the last three decades is because of its identity as a stable economic environment for foreign investment. That identify is going to be jeopardized if they keep up these shenanigans.
 
Sad that some fans took it upon themselves to target the only Muslim.

I'm sure that was not accidental, as he was the easy target.
 
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The way RSS extremists treated Shami demonstrates that Indian Muslims are still not accepted as ‘true’ Indians.It is a dilemma for Indian Muslim cricketers.Should they risk their lives and play if India or do something else and stay safe.
 
The way RSS extremists treated Shami demonstrates that Indian Muslims are still not accepted as ‘true’ Indians.It is a dilemma for Indian Muslim cricketers.Should they risk their lives and play if India or do something else and stay safe.

I really dont like India (because they are our enemies) But at least try to have honest review

Muslim cricketers risk their lives : How ? Even;'t you heard about players like Munaf Patel, Zaheer Khan, Azhar, Kaif, Irfan Pathan, Yusuf Pathan, etc. They are earning millions yearly (even when not playing) just being associated with Indian cricket system.. They have lot many muslims representing IPL as player , staff etc.. What we have ? where are our hindus, christians , etc. in PSL or domestic events
 
I know we do, I don’t agree with it, but Jinnah also said that in Pakistan whatever religion you are your still Pakistani
 
Why would they want to support an enemy nation against the country which they are living in? They need check their mental faculties.
You and other Indians miss the point with these kinds of posts. Your right they shouldn’t openly support Pakistan because their safety is at risk. However, you can not force them to support India and not Pakistan. It should be their freedom and choice and certainly does not justify them getting beaten or charged with ‘terrorism’. Your post and some others is trying to justify this violence and abuse.
 
Indian media is total gutter, they have given fuel to the Indian fascistic bigots on social media like twitter.

Their behaviour has been disgusting for years so this was to be expected actually. I am not surprised at all.
 
You and other Indians miss the point with these kinds of posts. Your right they shouldn’t openly support Pakistan because their safety is at risk. However, you can not force them to support India and not Pakistan. It should be their freedom and choice and certainly does not justify them getting beaten or charged with ‘terrorism’. Your post and some others is trying to justify this violence and abuse.

As a politically left leaning person, I find it disturbing that someone in my neighborhood is rooting for an ideologically enemy state based on religious grounds. These hypocrites don't deserve to live in a secular state.
 
As a politically left leaning person, I find it disturbing that someone in my neighborhood is rooting for an ideologically enemy state based on religious grounds. These hypocrites don't deserve to live in a secular state.

You find that disturbing and your entitled to feel like that. I, and am sure other people do find lots of things disturbing but that doesn't justify getting beaten or charged for terrorism for supporting or celebrating 'another' countries win.

India is secular only by name, lets not kid ourselves. the violence muslims (and other minorities) suffer from Gujrat to being suspected of or actually eating beef and to celebrating a Pakistan win. Actually being charged for terrorism and beaten for celebrating a Pak win shows how secular you are. (Pakistan is not an angel perfect country either but this thread is about the abuse of Shami and minorities being treated like this in your 'secular' India.

Why don't you look at the deeper roots to why these so called 'hypocrites' celebrate a Pakistan win? It's obvious in Kashmir and other places because they don't want to live in this 'secuar state' but want freedom to live peacefully and as they wish in THEIR land, just like the Indians wanted freedom from Great Britain. They don't see themselves Indian but their country Kashmir occupied by India. The other muslims who celebrate a Pak win in India probably do because of being discriminated and targeted by the state.
 
Why did Kohli go for Shami anyway when Bumrah is his strike bowler, what was the logic there….

This could have been avoided because the obvious thing to do is to target Shami unfortunately and his background may have played a part to in that part of the world.
 
Indian captain Virat Kohli hit out at people abusing Mohammed Shami prior to India's second game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2021.

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On the second part, as I rightly mentioned before, to me, attacking someone over their religion is the most, I would say, pathetic thing that a human being can do. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and what they feel about certain situations. But I personally have never ever even thought of discriminating anyone over their religion. And that is a very sacred and a personal thing to every human being and that should be left there.

So as I said, people take out their frustrations because they obviously have no understanding of what we do as individuals.

They have no understanding of how much effort we put on the field. They have no understanding of the fact that someone like Mohammed Shami has won India N number of matches in the last few years. And he's been our primary bowler with Jasprit Bumrah, when it comes to making an impact in games. And in Test cricket you see him run in to bowl. If people can overlook that and his passion for the country, honestly I don't even want to waste one minute of my life to give any attention to those people and neither does Shami and neither does anyone else on the team.

We stand by him fully. We're backing him 200 percent. And all those who have attacked him can come with more force if they want to. Our brotherhood and friendship within the team, nothing can be shaken. And I can guarantee you as the captain of the team that we have built a culture where these things will not even infiltrate into this environment .0001 percent. And that's an absolute guarantee from my side.
 
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Indian captain Virat Kohli hit out at people abusing Mohammed Shami prior to India's second game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2021.

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On the second part, as I rightly mentioned before, to me, attacking someone over their religion is the most, I would say, pathetic thing that a human being can do. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and what they feel about certain situations. But I personally have never ever even thought of discriminating anyone over their religion. And that is a very sacred and a personal thing to every human being and that should be left there.

So as I said, people take out their frustrations because they obviously have no understanding of what we do as individuals.

They have no understanding of how much effort we put on the field. They have no understanding of the fact that someone like Mohammed Shami has won India N number of matches in the last few years. And he's been our primary bowler with Jasprit Bumrah, when it comes to making an impact in games. And in Test cricket you see him run in to bowl. If people can overlook that and his passion for the country, honestly I don't even want to waste one minute of my life to give any attention to those people and neither does Shami and neither does anyone else on the team.

We stand by him fully. We're backing him 200 percent. And all those who have attacked him can come with more force if they want to. Our brotherhood and friendship within the team, nothing can be shaken. And I can guarantee you as the captain of the team that we have built a culture where these things will not even infiltrate into this environment .0001 percent. And that's an absolute guarantee from my side.
I have completely turned on him. He genuinely means respect. Kohli is a great guy. Full respect
 
@Virat Kohli

All this everyone knows, now first please go & sort out the pace bowling.
And pick ashwin next match
 
With respect, Kohli being a bit of a hypocrite here.

He is going after social media trolls in support of Shami which is good. But internet world is full of idiots. At one end he says he dont care about what people talks about them from outside but then goes after people due to few instagram posts from non verified accounts. Who knows who is handling those accounts anyway?

Rather than focussing on no name internet trolls, why is he not talking about bigoted comments from Waqar Younis? I mean he is an ex great cricketer and someone from Virat's own profession. The comments coming from him should bother him more than some random trolls in internet.

Dissapointing from Kohli but along expected lines.
 
I must say my respect for Kohli has increased many folds , I cant think of any sports captain from any non western country , even the more developed ones , taking this kind of stance. That was truly a world class behaviour.
 
Time & again Kohli has shown he is a woke cricketer. My respect for him increased after seeing how elegantly he handled the loss against Pak last Sunday & now this. Respect.
 
Why would they want to support an enemy nation against the country which they are living in? They need check their mental faculties.

Yet, you forget they've been marginalised, abused and tagged as the enemy in their own nation long before this match happened.
 
... but then goes after people due to few instagram posts from non verified accounts. Who knows who is handling those accounts anyway? .

Same here. I heavily doubt people would go after Shami's religion for a poor performance. Anyone from anywhere, even across the borders, can control these anonymous accounts and create this kind of fake impression.
 
Same here. I heavily doubt people would go after Shami's religion for a poor performance. Anyone from anywhere, even across the borders, can control these anonymous accounts and create this kind of fake impression.

^ If anyone wants a definition of "head in the sand"
 
With respect, Kohli being a bit of a hypocrite here.

He is going after social media trolls in support of Shami which is good. But internet world is full of idiots. At one end he says he dont care about what people talks about them from outside but then goes after people due to few instagram posts from non verified accounts. Who knows who is handling those accounts anyway?

Rather than focussing on no name internet trolls, why is he not talking about bigoted comments from Waqar Younis? I mean he is an ex great cricketer and someone from Virat's own profession. The comments coming from him should bother him more than some random trolls in internet.

Dissapointing from Kohli but along expected lines.

Even though waqars comment was in bad taste , he never insulated hindus and their religion. He was pointing toward courage of Rizwan though with an inappropriate religious twist.
 
My 'head is in the sand' for refusing to base my opinion on anonymous accounts on the internet ?

Your head is in the sand in thinking all the hate shami is getting is not from your countrymen
 
Rather than focussing on no name internet trolls, why is he not talking about bigoted comments from Waqar Younis? I mean he is an ex great cricketer and someone from Virat's own profession. The comments coming from him should bother him more than some random trolls in internet.

Dissapointing from Kohli but along expected lines.

What silly logic is this? How is kohli going to back shami and criticise all the hate hes getting by indians by going after waqar?

Some senseless posts on here
 
Spineless people abused Shami, says India captain Kohli

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — India captain Virat Kohli has thrown his full support behind Mohammed Shami after the fast bowler was abused on social media following a T20 World Cup cricket defeat against archrival Pakistan.

“Here’s a good reason why we are playing on the field and not some bunch of spineless people on social media that have no courage to actually speak to any individual in person,” Kohli told reporters on Saturday.

Shami, the only Muslim in the India team, was subjected to criticism that included Islamophobic messages on his Instagram account after returning figures of 0-43 as Pakistan romped to a 10-wicket win in Dubai last Sunday.

“Attacking someone over their religion is the most, I would say, pathetic thing that a human being can do,” Kohli said. “Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and what they feel about certain situations but I personally have never, ever even thought of discriminating against anyone over their religion. That is a very sacred and personal thing to every human being and that should be left there.”

Pakistan’s win was its first in 13 attempts in any World Cup game against its neighbor.

“He (Shami) has been our primary bowler with Jasprit Bumrah when it comes to making an impact in games,” Kohli said. “If people can overlook that and his passion for the country, I honestly don’t even want to waste one minute of my life to give any attention to those people.

“We stand by him fully. We are backing him 200 per cent and all those who have attacked him can come with more force if they want. Our brotherhood, our friendship within the team, nothing can be shaken.

“I can guarantee you that as captain of the team, we have built a culture where these things will not even infiltrate into this environment 0.0001 per cent.”

India takes on New Zealand in its second Group 2 match on Sunday. Pakistan has won all three of its World Cup games.

https://apnews.com/article/sports-pakistan-media-india-social-media-61ce1b726b01ddc22623be7267c8582b
 
With respect, Kohli being a bit of a hypocrite here.

He is going after social media trolls in support of Shami which is good. But internet world is full of idiots. At one end he says he dont care about what people talks about them from outside but then goes after people due to few instagram posts from non verified accounts. Who knows who is handling those accounts anyway?

Rather than focussing on no name internet trolls, why is he not talking about bigoted comments from Waqar Younis? I mean he is an ex great cricketer and someone from Virat's own profession. The comments coming from him should bother him more than some random trolls in internet.

Dissapointing from Kohli but along expected lines.

I'm extremely glad he said what he said. Waqar's quotes are something the Pakistanis should introspect on, not us as Indians. There has been a trend of several Indian fans abusing not just Indian cricketers, but also foreign cricketers on social media after a poor performance and this has been going on for sometime now. So the abuse that Shami received wasn't something new in that respect, but he was hit with several abuses of "ghaddar" and quotes like "how much money you got from Pakistan" and so on. The only reason an Indian muslim cricketer has to be called a "traitor" for his performance against Pakistan is because there is a wide spread belief among many of the RW bigots that muslims in India are Pakistani agents and that given an opportunity, they'll always side with the Pakistanis in a war with Pakistan.

Kohli calling out Shami was so important, and I was very pleased that he stood up for his teammate. And I was even more happy beca he didn't dilly dally around the issue and was clear in his wordings that anyone who targets another person based on his/her religion is the lowest of the low. This should have happened long back when Indian cricketers and foreign cricketers were getting abuses online but looks like the Shami thing was what broke the camel's back. Of course, the abuses aren't going to stop suddenly because Kohli has said so as we have a huge number of illiterate people (not literally, but in terms of conduct and manners) who have cheap access to the internet and therefore this will go on until they get educated and mature more. But atleast this is a great sign from the Indian captain and I'm proud about it. What Pakistani or Bangladeshi fans say about their or our cricketers is not a concern for our captain.
 
Our nationalists™ have started an online campaign that they hope India lose to NZ and gets eliminated out of the world cup because in their view, the Indian team is headed by a woke hypocrite captain (with his views on Shami and Diwali celebrations) and they apparently won't support the Indian team until he gets sacked as captain.

So eitherway, whether India wins or loses, a lot of people inside India are going to be happy. I'm pretty sure no one will call them anti nationalists however if they celebrate an Indian loss.
 
Indian captain Virat Kohli hit out at people abusing Mohammed Shami prior to India's second game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2021.

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On the second part, as I rightly mentioned before, to me, attacking someone over their religion is the most, I would say, pathetic thing that a human being can do. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion and what they feel about certain situations. But I personally have never ever even thought of discriminating anyone over their religion. And that is a very sacred and a personal thing to every human being and that should be left there.

So as I said, people take out their frustrations because they obviously have no understanding of what we do as individuals.

They have no understanding of how much effort we put on the field. They have no understanding of the fact that someone like Mohammed Shami has won India N number of matches in the last few years. And he's been our primary bowler with Jasprit Bumrah, when it comes to making an impact in games. And in Test cricket you see him run in to bowl. If people can overlook that and his passion for the country, honestly I don't even want to waste one minute of my life to give any attention to those people and neither does Shami and neither does anyone else on the team.

We stand by him fully. We're backing him 200 percent. And all those who have attacked him can come with more force if they want to. Our brotherhood and friendship within the team, nothing can be shaken. And I can guarantee you as the captain of the team that we have built a culture where these things will not even infiltrate into this environment .0001 percent. And that's an absolute guarantee from my side.

Brilliant statement. Now that’s leadership.

Role model conduct on a national and global level.
 
Our nationalists™ have started an online campaign that they hope India lose to NZ and gets eliminated out of the world cup because in their view, the Indian team is headed by a woke hypocrite captain (with his views on Shami and Diwali celebrations) and they apparently won't support the Indian team until he gets sacked as captain.

So eitherway, whether India wins or loses, a lot of people inside India are going to be happy. I'm pretty sure no one will call them anti nationalists however if they celebrate an Indian loss.

Very True, Top post mate!

I never read too much into this Shami incident because I don't give a damn to what a few useless, jobless, bigots Post. Overall I know my fellow Indians, I have friends from all communities and we all support and stand for each other, Kohli's post reflects the true spirit of our country, which is to stay united.

These lowlifes have no love for the country, the obsession is only for their personal agenda, and if anyone goes against it, they won't take a second to criticize that person and also they would want the country to lose, and it won't matter to them one bit.
 
Very True, Top post mate!

I never read too much into this Shami incident because I don't give a damn to what a few useless, jobless, bigots Post. Overall I know my fellow Indians, I have friends from all communities and we all support and stand for each other, Kohli's post reflects the true spirit of our country, which is to stay united.

These lowlifes have no love for the country, the obsession is only for their personal agenda, and if anyone goes against it, they won't take a second to criticize that person and also they would want the country to lose, and it won't matter to them one bit.

The biggest tragedy with these people is that they have appropriated patriotism in the country. They have chosen themselves as the sole personnel who have the authority to give out patriotism certificates to people and it is they who decide who is a nationalist and who is an anti-national. By doing so, they have decided themselves they are the nationalists and anyone who disagrees with their opinion is an anti nationalist.

Now Kohli has fallen in their radar, frustrating them with his "woke" opinions. They probably didn't realise the power of the Kohli fan boys lmao, the entire Kohli army was attacking the RW yesterday which was quite hilarious to see lol.
 
The biggest tragedy with these people is that they have appropriated patriotism in the country. They have chosen themselves as the sole personnel who have the authority to give out patriotism certificates to people and it is they who decide who is a nationalist and who is an anti-national. By doing so, they have decided themselves they are the nationalists and anyone who disagrees with their opinion is an anti nationalist.

Now Kohli has fallen in their radar, frustrating them with his "woke" opinions. They probably didn't realise the power of the Kohli fan boys lmao, the entire Kohli army was attacking the RW yesterday which was quite hilarious to see lol.

Spot on.. They don't target minorities they target everyone who has a different opinion and this should concern everyone in the country.

Just now i saw a post by Aakash Chopra predicting ENG-Pak final. Immidieately he is termed as an anti-national by certain people.

So Now people can't even predict based on their cricketing knowledge unless they say 'India'. Aakash has represented the country, these lowlifes haven't done anything close in life.
 
I'm extremely glad he said what he said. Waqar's quotes are something the Pakistanis should introspect on, not us as Indians. There has been a trend of several Indian fans abusing not just Indian cricketers, but also foreign cricketers on social media after a poor performance and this has been going on for sometime now. So the abuse that Shami received wasn't something new in that respect, but he was hit with several abuses of "ghaddar" and quotes like "how much money you got from Pakistan" and so on. The only reason an Indian muslim cricketer has to be called a "traitor" for his performance against Pakistan is because there is a wide spread belief among many of the RW bigots that muslims in India are Pakistani agents and that given an opportunity, they'll always side with the Pakistanis in a war with Pakistan.

Kohli calling out Shami was so important, and I was very pleased that he stood up for his teammate. And I was even more happy beca he didn't dilly dally around the issue and was clear in his wordings that anyone who targets another person based on his/her religion is the lowest of the low. This should have happened long back when Indian cricketers and foreign cricketers were getting abuses online but looks like the Shami thing was what broke the camel's back. Of course, the abuses aren't going to stop suddenly because Kohli has said so as we have a huge number of illiterate people (not literally, but in terms of conduct and manners) who have cheap access to the internet and therefore this will go on until they get educated and mature more. But atleast this is a great sign from the Indian captain and I'm proud about it. What Pakistani or Bangladeshi fans say about their or our cricketers is not a concern for our captain.

First of all there wasnt a campaign against Shami as you make it out to be. There were few (very handful) of Instagram posts where he was abused. Then again who knows who were handling those accounts? As per some news most of these accounts were from outside India. It can very well be a staged drama just to silence the noise of those firecrackers which ghaddars were bursting after Pak win. After Rihanna *******...nothing surprise me anymore. Rakesh Tikait on record said Modi asked Indian team to lose deliberately against Pakistan so that communal tension can spark up in the country. This is the level of gutter oppositions we have. So to create few fake accounts and abuse Shami on Instagram to make India look intolerant is not a far fetched thought.

Second, Kohli repeats himself everytime that outside noise dont bother him nor the team. He almost says that in every press conference of his including the one he conducted yesterday. So if he dont care about outside fans, how come few Insta posts bothered him so much that he gave that 2 minutes gyan?

Was he sure who were handling those accounts?

What he sure was that another ex player from his own profession made religious comments on live TV. It didnt came from any random no name social media troll but from a bonafide ATG cricketer on live television. As a fellow cricketer, Kohli definitely should have taken a stance. Just bcoz Waqar is a Pakistani why cant Indian captain comment on it if he is mocking our religion? Didnt Pak wicket keeper Rizwan tweeted about Shami? Or are you saying that insult of hindus dont matter but if muslim faith is attacked, Indian captain should take a stance.

Also, this is not the first time Kohli has not taken a stance on cases he should have. Back in 2018 when Afridi tweeted and equated Indian army as terrorists in Kashmir, every Indian cricketer has responded...except our Kaptaan. When finally media asked him about his view he played diplomatically saying 'Obviously as an Indian I support my country but having said that, it's a very personal choice for someone to comment about certain issues. Unless I have total knowledge of the issues and the intricacies of it I don't engage in it but definitely, your priority stays with your nation"

Surprise surprise Indian cricket team captain's priority is with India...isnt that shocking? Wow

Also, personal choice for Afridi to tweet and it dont bother him but few no name instagram troll posts bothered him so much.

Lets be honest he only does these things because he has many instagram followers from neighbouring countries and dont want to make any controversial statement or want to take a stance to lose them.

He may still fool liberals like you with his speech like he did yesterday for Shami but not people like us who look things holistically.
 
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England lost a euro final and English people turned on the three black players that missed a penalty, india lose to Pakistan and there fans turned on the minority Muslim player, these thins are common practise in sport when you lose you see your fellow countrymen true colours, some posters still seem to be in denial
 
With respect, Kohli being a bit of a hypocrite here.

Rather than focussing on no name internet trolls, why is he not talking about bigoted comments from Waqar Younis? I mean he is an ex great cricketer and someone from Virat's own profession. The comments coming from him should bother him more than some random trolls in internet.

Disappointing from Kohli but along expected lines.


Kohli has nothing to do with Waqar or Pakistan interior minister's nut case statements on religion.
As a captain he did a fantastic job backing Shami.
Appreciate taking stance.


With respect, Kohli being a bit of a hypocrite here.

First of all there wasnt a campaign against Shami as you make it out to be. There were few (very handful) of Instagram posts where he was abused. Then again who knows who were handling those accounts? As per some news most of these accounts were from outside India. It can very well be a staged drama just to silence the noise of those firecrackers which ghaddars were bursting after Pak win. After Rihanna *******...nothing surprise me anymore. Rakesh Tikait on record said Modi asked Indian team to lose deliberately against Pakistan so that communal tension can spark up in the country. This is the level of gutter oppositions we have. So to create few fake accounts and abuse Shami on Instagram to make India look intolerant is not a far fetched thought.

Second, Kohli repeats himself everytime that outside noise dont bother him nor the team. He almost says that in every press conference of his including the one he conducted yesterday. So if he dont care about outside fans, how come few Insta posts bothered him so much that he gave that 2 minutes gyan?

Was he sure who were handling those accounts?

What he sure was that another ex player from his own profession made religious comments on live TV. It didnt came from any random no name social media troll but from a bonafide ATG cricketer on live television. As a fellow cricketer, Kohli definitely should have taken a stance. Just bcoz Waqar is a Pakistani why cant Indian captain comment on it if he is mocking our religion? Didnt Pak wicket keeper Rizwan tweeted about Shami? Or are you saying that insult of hindus dont matter but if muslim faith is attacked, Indian captain should take a stance.

Also, this is not the first time Kohli has not taken a stance on cases he should have. Back in 2018 when Afridi tweeted and equated Indian army as terrorists in Kashmir, every Indian cricketer has responded...except our Kaptaan. When finally media asked him about his view he played diplomatically saying 'Obviously as an Indian I support my country but having said that, it's a very personal choice for someone to comment about certain issues. Unless I have total knowledge of the issues and the intricacies of it I don't engage in it but definitely, your priority stays with your nation"

Surprise surprise Indian cricket team captain's priority is with India...isnt that shocking? Wow

Also, personal choice for Afridi to tweet and it dont bother him but few no name instagram troll posts bothered him so much.

Lets be honest he only does these things because he has many instagram followers from neighbouring countries and dont want to make any controversial statement or want to take a stance to lose them.

He may still fool liberals like you with his speech like he did yesterday for Shami but not people like us who look things holistically.

Completely agree with your other points.
Kohli is hypocrite and coward.

He should stop giving lectures to people to not Burst Crackers on Hindu Festivals.

Let's call a spade a spade. This man Kohli doesn't have a spine to tell people to stop slaughtering animals for some festival like Eid/Ramdan but will only tell to stop using crackers because animals are scared of sound.
So fear of sound of animals >>>>>> Life of Animals.
This wokeness is a disease.

Only Liberals or peludos will buy his statements.
 
Sehwag takes a brutal dig at Virat Kohli. Hypocrite person like Kohli deserves this :ashwin
 
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Kohli has nothing to do with Waqar or Pakistan interior minister's nut case statements on religion.
As a captain he did a fantastic job backing Shami.
Appreciate taking stance.






Completely agree with your other points.
Kohli is hypocrite and coward.

He should stop giving lectures to people to not Burst Crackers on Hindu Festivals.

Let's call a spade a spade. This man Kohli doesn't have a spine to tell people to stop slaughtering animals for some festival like Eid/Ramdan but will only tell to stop using crackers because animals are scared of sound.
So fear of sound of animals >>>>>> Life of Animals.
This wokeness is a disease.

Only Liberals or peludos will buy his statements.

you are being needlessly harsh on Kohli. If he said to stop slaughtering animals, the media will portray him as anti-muslim. But as a Hindu, he can criticize other hindus and it won't be seen as bigotry. Same reason why Shami doesn't come forward and say not to use firecrackers on Diwali.
 
Sehwag is such an idiot. Being a Delhite, he should never vouch for bursting crackers, let alone doing this while dividing people on religious lines.

Also, he is probably too thick to remember that Karva Chauth festival was also celebrated that day and lot of people burst crackers at the sight of moon.
 
you are being needlessly harsh on Kohli. If he said to stop slaughtering animals, the media will portray him as anti-muslim. But as a Hindu, he can criticize other hindus and it won't be seen as bigotry. Same reason why Shami doesn't come forward and say not to use firecrackers on Diwali.
This! Well said. People usually don't take the comments from people of other faiths too kindly.
 
Oh dear. Shami better score or the Indian fans are going to lay the blame squarely at his feet.
 
Shami got a rousing response when he entered the ground to bat tonight. Good to see.
 
Time for Hinduvta fanatic elements in the Indian political and social atmosphere to go after the fellow Hindu players for losing the game against NZ, or was it that one over again from Shami that resulted the win turned into a loss?

I have been watching India cricket for over 40 years and never have witnessed any Indian cricket follower shameless enough to blame a player based on his religion.

Glad to see some fans cheered for Shami today but in all honesty, this is yet another indicator that Modi and BJP has turned patches of Hindus into fanatics. What a shame!
 
First of all there wasnt a campaign against Shami as you make it out to be. There were few (very handful) of Instagram posts where he was abused. Then again who knows who were handling those accounts? As per some news most of these accounts were from outside India. It can very well be a staged drama just to silence the noise of those firecrackers which ghaddars were bursting after Pak win. After Rihanna *******...nothing surprise me anymore. Rakesh Tikait on record said Modi asked Indian team to lose deliberately against Pakistan so that communal tension can spark up in the country. This is the level of gutter oppositions we have. So to create few fake accounts and abuse Shami on Instagram to make India look intolerant is not a far fetched thought.

Second, Kohli repeats himself everytime that outside noise dont bother him nor the team. He almost says that in every press conference of his including the one he conducted yesterday. So if he dont care about outside fans, how come few Insta posts bothered him so much that he gave that 2 minutes gyan?

Was he sure who were handling those accounts?

What he sure was that another ex player from his own profession made religious comments on live TV. It didnt came from any random no name social media troll but from a bonafide ATG cricketer on live television. As a fellow cricketer, Kohli definitely should have taken a stance. Just bcoz Waqar is a Pakistani why cant Indian captain comment on it if he is mocking our religion? Didnt Pak wicket keeper Rizwan tweeted about Shami? Or are you saying that insult of hindus dont matter but if muslim faith is attacked, Indian captain should take a stance.

Also, this is not the first time Kohli has not taken a stance on cases he should have. Back in 2018 when Afridi tweeted and equated Indian army as terrorists in Kashmir, every Indian cricketer has responded...except our Kaptaan. When finally media asked him about his view he played diplomatically saying 'Obviously as an Indian I support my country but having said that, it's a very personal choice for someone to comment about certain issues. Unless I have total knowledge of the issues and the intricacies of it I don't engage in it but definitely, your priority stays with your nation"

Surprise surprise Indian cricket team captain's priority is with India...isnt that shocking? Wow

Also, personal choice for Afridi to tweet and it dont bother him but few no name instagram troll posts bothered him so much.

Lets be honest he only does these things because he has many instagram followers from neighbouring countries and dont want to make any controversial statement or want to take a stance to lose them.

He may still fool liberals like you with his speech like he did yesterday for Shami but not people like us who look things holistically.

People like you who "look at things holistically" should not be on this forum if you think Indians being happy at Pakistan's wins are "ghaddars".

The hypocrisy of such tools is mind-boggling. Every match that India plays overseas is filled with Indian fans who live in foreign countries but still support India over their current home nations. Not only that, they send slurs against Muslim English cricketers as well, true to Indian culture back home.

If you ask them about why this is the case, they'll refer to culture, heritage, familial ties, etc. However, Indians living inside India doing the same thing makes them traitors.

You guys need some serious soul searching.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The kind of pressure, struggles & sacrifices a player has to go through for his country & his people is immeasurable. <a href="https://twitter.com/MdShami11?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MdShami11</a> is a star & indeed of the best bowlers in the world<br><br>Please respect your stars. This game should bring people together & not divide 'em <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Shami?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Shami</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvIND</a> <a href="https://t.co/3p70Ia8zxf">pic.twitter.com/3p70Ia8zxf</a></p>— Mohammad Rizwan (@iMRizwanPak) <a href="https://twitter.com/iMRizwanPak/status/1452918730044891141?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a classy act by Rizwan. Hopefully, all this will mean Shami stops appeasing the Hindutva elements in India and takes a stand.
 
Well that's the nature of the subcontinent though. There has always been hatred of minorities in our countries and that just translates into these online abuse when social media proves a platform for every bigot out there.

Just look at the comments of Liton Das' last tweet and there are loads of abuse there as well. Only thing is that they're in Bengali and so they're not as visible. Pakistan doesn't have this phenomenon because the Pakistani cricket team very rarely features minority players in their team unlike India and Bangladesh. You'd start seeing these comments when minority players start to play for Pakistan and if anyone has a bad day, particularly against an arch rival like India. It would take a few decades for the subcontinent to come out of the religious chauvinism and bigotry that afflicts it.

Danish Kaneria was NEVER abused like this and he had some truly horrid performances at times. There is also a Sikh Pakistani cricketer that is getting a lot of supportand many people hope he plays for Pakistan one day.

Don't try to equate India with Pakistan, please.
 
Even though waqars comment was in bad taste , he never insulated hindus and their religion. He was pointing toward courage of Rizwan though with an inappropriate religious twist.

Rizwan needs 'courage' to perform the namaz in the presence of a few hindus in muslim UAE?

I've heard lame excuses in my time but this one....

It was said in bad taste by Waqar in the heat of the moment. He himself admitted this.

Expected better from a legend like him.
 
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Rizwan needs 'courage' to perform the namaz in the presence of a few hindus in muslim UAE?

I've heard lame excuses in my time but this one....

It was said in bad taste by Waqar in the heat of the moment. He himself admitted this.

Expected better from a legend like him.

What did he say? Could you please clarify?
 
Danish Kaneria was NEVER abused like this and he had some truly horrid performances at times. There is also a Sikh Pakistani cricketer that is getting a lot of supportand many people hope he plays for Pakistan one day.

Don't try to equate India with Pakistan, please.

On the contrary, Kamran Akmal owes Dinesh Kaneria a big apology. Cost him over 50 dismissals in missed catches and stumpings!
 
This is a good read!
If MODs believe it needs to go in timepass section, please move accordingly.

We Lost Much More Than a Cricket Match on Sunday Night
Indradeep Bhattacharyya October 26, 2021



Sometime around June, my wife and I went to check out an upcoming housing project in suburban Kolkata being developed by a renowned builder as we were looking for a larger apartment. After explaining the USPs of the project and taking us around the site, the smartly dressed marketing manager offered us a cup of coffee in his swanky office and said reassuringly, “We are only entertaining cultured and educated clients. And strictly no Muslims.”

It took me less than half a second to decide that I had no further business there. As my wife and I exchanged glances and left his office without a single word, I noticed that the other family that was waiting for its turn to speak to the manager also got up from the sofa and left the office ahead of us, past a life-size idol of Lord Ganesha decorated with multicoloured Chinese lamps.

Outside the gate, as I was unlocking my car, I noticed the family again. They too were getting into their vehicle. An elderly lady, possibly the mother of either the man or the woman, sat inside the car in her hijab.

This was not the Uttar Pradesh of today. This was not post-Godhra Gujarat. This was not any BJP-ruled state. This was a state where the government is ‘guilty’ of ‘minority appeasement’. This was Kolkata, 2021, barely a month after the Trinamool Congress’ thumping victory in the state polls. I hung my head in shame; I felt like apologising to them, but as is our wont, I slipped into the insulated air-conditioned comfort of my car with its windows rolled up and ‘moved on’.

Later that evening, I asked myself, even if I did, on whose behalf should I have apologised to the young couple looking to set up a home? Yes, maybe on behalf of the marketing guy who was possibly obeying the instructions of his boss.

But, could I have apologised on behalf of the prime minister of our sovereign socialist secular democratic republic who had made a statement that those who were indulging in anti-CAA protests “can be identified by their clothes”? Could I have apologised on behalf of everyone in this country who held Muslims responsible for the spread of COVID-19 last year and looked the other way when the Kumbh Mela became a super-spreader in 2021? Could I have apologised on behalf of the Indian home minister who called Bangladeshi immigrants “termites”? Could I have apologised on behalf of my ‘friends’ who spew venom every day against Muslims on WhatsApp groups? Could I have apologised to them on behalf of the entire system which allows right-wing zealots openly vilifying Muslim and calling for genocides to go scot-free in this country?

Exactly how many apologies did I, as an upper-caste Hindu, owe that Muslim family in the India of 2021? I wondered.

The incident came back to my mind as I learnt about widespread outrage on social media and some public discourse over a section of Indian Muslims reportedly celebrating Pakistan’s thumping victory over Team India on Sunday night in the T20 Cricket World Cup. It is learnt that the Kashmir Police has charged some local students under the draconian Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) for raising anti-India slogans and celebrating Pakistan’s win. In Rajasthan, a school teacher was expelled from her job because she expressed joy at Pakistan’s win.

Also read: When Political Yogis Take the Knee, They Reveal the Perverse Politics of Indian Cricket

For starters, who you support in a game is entirely your personal choice. I remember being at the Eden Gardens during an ODI between India and South Africa where a capacity crowd of around one lakh people supported South Africa because Sourav Ganguly had just been dropped from the team. Every time Graeme Smith drove Zaheer Khan to the boundary, the cheer was deafening. An exasperated Greg Chappell had infamously shown the middle finger to fans outside the stadium while leaving the ground after a thumping defeat.

Were those spectators being anti-India or anti-nationals?

The question that we really need to ask is: Why do Indian Muslims feel more and more alienated in this country with each passing day? If the incident that I narrated was happening in Kolkata, imagine the plight of a common Muslim man in Faizabad or Gorakhpur today. Can we, the majority in this country, even imagine how nightmarish it is for Indian Muslims to live in this country under a government that pampers right-wing zealots – like the young MP from Bengaluru?

For Indian Muslims, daily abuse, attacks, lynchings, hate speeches and open calls for murders have been normalised. Every day, they have been made to feel like second-class citizens in this country, if at all. “The idea was that if you were a Muslim, you were liable to be attacked anywhere, anytime,” says Ghazala Jamil, an assistant professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University. And if that alienation has resulted in the reported celebrations on Sunday night, who is to be blamed for that?

Sports is a mighty leveller. Cricket in India was no exception. Even in the height of communal tension in India during the early 1990s, Mohammad Azharuddin was never dragged into the mudslinging. The sublime art of his wristy flicks was enjoyed by cricket lovers from Kashmir to Kanyakumari cutting across religious lines, as much as Sachin’s straight drives were.

If one goes further back, it was under a Muslim captain, the Nawab of Pataudi, that India (yes, you can’t ignore that synecdoche) started earning respect on foreign shores. Was the romanticism around the Afghan-born Salim Durrani in the 60s and 70s dependent on religious lines? Did the crowd that agitated in Bombay upon his non-selection with ‘No Durrani, No Test’ placards comprise only Muslims? Did the Khans and Pathans and Kaifs ever feel uneasy in Sourav’s Team India when they played Pakistan?

All that is history now. Something has snapped somewhere. The attacks Mohammad Shami has faced since Sunday night, the silence of the BCCI and his teammates and the punitive action that has been initiated against minority students ‘celebrating’ Pakistan’s victory tell us that we lost much more than a cricket match on Sunday night. We lost our national identity, the sine qua non of which was unity in diversity.

Indradeep Bhattacharyya is an independent journalist based in Kolkata and a regular contributor to The Wire.

https://livewire.thewire.in/sports/we-lost-much-more-than-a-cricket-match-on-sunday-night/
 
Danish Kaneria was NEVER abused like this and he had some truly horrid performances at times. There is also a Sikh Pakistani cricketer that is getting a lot of supportand many people hope he plays for Pakistan one day.

Don't try to equate India with Pakistan, please.

You're delusional if you think Pakistan is any more tolerant than India.
 
You're delusional if you think Pakistan is any more tolerant than India.

[MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION], I don’t know if falsely believing that Pakistan is same on this matter makes you feel better about india but the truth it that it is not the case.

Pakistan has lot of intolerance but not in cricket. Youhana also played for many years and has said on record he faced no issues or pressure. Kaneria used to say same and his views only changed when he was abandoned by PCB and then also got a lot views from india. And even by his own account it isn’t bad.

Let’s take another example. In Pakistan in cricket matches you see Pakistan fans wearing Indian shirts. Kohli has huge following. Do you think Indians can go around streets of Delhi wearing a Pakistan babar Azam shirt?
 
[MENTION=139664]street cricketer[/MENTION], I don’t know if falsely believing that Pakistan is same on this matter makes you feel better about india but the truth it that it is not the case.

Pakistan has lot of intolerance but not in cricket. Youhana also played for many years and has said on record he faced no issues or pressure. Kaneria used to say same and his views only changed when he was abandoned by PCB and then also got a lot views from india. And even by his own account it isn’t bad.

Let’s take another example. In Pakistan in cricket matches you see Pakistan fans wearing Indian shirts. Kohli has huge following. Do you think Indians can go around streets of Delhi wearing a Pakistan babar Azam shirt?

This is a topic that needs a detailed discussion in the Time pass section. I'm glad to discuss with you there, but a lot of Pakistanis have this flawed understanding that Pakistan is far more tolerant than India when it's a far more right wing state than India. Think the misinterpretation occurs primarily because not many understand the true political definitions of what right wing and left wing is and not many are politically aware.

Pakistan having Kohli fans doesn't mean anything because the Pakistani team routinely got the best ovation in the 2016 T20 WC wherever they visited. Doesn't mean most of the fans who applauded Pakistan wouldn't vote for BJP in the elections. It's the same with Pakistan. And Babar is not the same star as Kohli is and you probably won't find many fans of Pakistan only because Pakistan hasn't been the same team as it was in the 90s and 80s when you could find a lot of fans for Imran and Wasim in India.
 
People like you who "look at things holistically" should not be on this forum if you think Indians being happy at Pakistan's wins are "ghaddars".

The hypocrisy of such tools is mind-boggling. Every match that India plays overseas is filled with Indian fans who live in foreign countries but still support India over their current home nations. Not only that, they send slurs against Muslim English cricketers as well, true to Indian culture back home.

If you ask them about why this is the case, they'll refer to culture, heritage, familial ties, etc. However, Indians living inside India doing the same thing makes them traitors.

You guys need some serious soul searching.

Virat Kohli fan in Pakistan being jailed for 10 years for waving Indian flag at rooftop after India win:

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/spo...isting-indian-flag-on-his-rooftop-249897.html

You need to understand that India and Pakistan are political rivals and not sporting rival. There is no cricket rivalry among us because we dont play against each other. The rare time we play we get to hear religious comments from Pak ministers/ex cricketers. So this rivalry is anything but cricket, its more political, religious etc. In a situation like this if anyone openly celebrate win of Pakistan by bursting firecrackers living in India, of course action will be taken. Just like Pakistan jailed that poor guy for 10 years.

And your comparison of Indians living overseas is a hilarious whataboutery. Indians living overseas never claim themselves to be non Indians. Take my example, I live in Britain due to my profession but I have never said myself to be an Englishman. I am an Indian and I do support Indian team victory. I also support England team as long as they are not playing against India. These 'Ghaddars' lives in India, calls themselves proud Indians and then celebrate Pakistan victory and do sloganeering against India. I support India bcoz I am an Indian...why do they (Indian muslims) support Pakistan? What has Pakistan got to do anything with them?

As I said many times before all these sugar-coating would have worked pre 2014 in India...but now you celebrate Pakistan's victory in India..get ready for jail time. Simple.
 
Virat Kohli fan in Pakistan being jailed for 10 years for waving Indian flag at rooftop after India win:

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/spo...isting-indian-flag-on-his-rooftop-249897.html

You need to understand that India and Pakistan are political rivals and not sporting rival. There is no cricket rivalry among us because we dont play against each other. The rare time we play we get to hear religious comments from Pak ministers/ex cricketers. So this rivalry is anything but cricket, its more political, religious etc. In a situation like this if anyone openly celebrate win of Pakistan by bursting firecrackers living in India, of course action will be taken. Just like Pakistan jailed that poor guy for 10 years.

And your comparison of Indians living overseas is a hilarious whataboutery. Indians living overseas never claim themselves to be non Indians. Take my example, I live in Britain due to my profession but I have never said myself to be an Englishman. I am an Indian and I do support Indian team victory. I also support England team as long as they are not playing against India. These 'Ghaddars' lives in India, calls themselves proud Indians and then celebrate Pakistan victory and do sloganeering against India. I support India bcoz I am an Indian...why do they (Indian muslims) support Pakistan? What has Pakistan got to do anything with them?

As I said many times before all these sugar-coating would have worked pre 2014 in India...but now you celebrate Pakistan's victory in India..get ready for jail time. Simple.

He was Jailed for ten years was he?

"Celebrate Pakistan's victory in India.... get ready for jail time"..

A Pakistani can celebrate whoever they like and won't face jail time.

India is imploding
 
He was Jailed for ten years was he?

"Celebrate Pakistan's victory in India.... get ready for jail time"..

A Pakistani can celebrate whoever they like and won't face jail time.

India is imploding

That fan did get jailed for a month.
 
That fan did get jailed for a month.

Yes and that was wrong. But difference between a month and ten years is quiet a lot wouldn't you say?

But here it's also about the mindset.
Almost every single Pakistani on PP will say they can support who they like including India.
But a few Indians here actually have no issues about sending their own countrymen to jail for supporting Pakistan in a cricket match.
 
Yes and that was wrong. But difference between a month and ten years is quiet a lot wouldn't you say?

But here it's also about the mindset.
Almost every single Pakistani on PP will say they can support who they like including India.
But a few Indians here actually have no issues about sending their own countrymen to jail for supporting Pakistan in a cricket match.

Who got jailed for ten years?
 
Danish Kaneria was NEVER abused like this and he had some truly horrid performances at times. There is also a Sikh Pakistani cricketer that is getting a lot of supportand many people hope he plays for Pakistan one day.

Don't try to equate India with Pakistan, please.

kaneria played at a time when social media usage was not much. Even he has come forward and talked about abuse and discrimination he faced not just from fans, but also his own teammates.

how many non-muslim cricketers played for pakistan since kaenria? Only way to compare apples to apples is if a non-muslim played for pakistan today and we could see what abuse he receives on SM. But pakistan doesn't even feature any minorities in their cricket setup.

You are in denial if you think pakistan is somehow better than india on minority treatment. Even the bangla team feature more minority players consistently than both india and pakistan.
 
Rajdeep ^^
He said Pakistani fan kohli fan bring Jailed for ten years

Anybody being jailed for cheering the opposition team or player is a diagrac and neither India nor Pakistan are better at it regardless of what their respective countrymen think.
 
DO NOT POST any news about abuse etc without a proper news source.
 
That fan did get jailed for a month.

This was like an isolated case and its wrong. But its a major problem in India. People should be allowed to cheer for any sports team they like without being called traitors, anti-nationals, whatnot and chucked into the cells ***.
 
This was like an isolated case and its wrong. But its a major problem in India. People should be allowed to cheer for any sports team they like without being called traitors, anti-nationals, whatnot and chucked into the cells ***.

Isolated case or not, he was imprisoned for one month. I doubt the ones booked under sedition (which is stupid btw) in India have been imprisoned for that amount of time.

Both countries think one is tolerant than the other, but they really are not.
 
Isolated case or not, he was imprisoned for one month. I doubt the ones booked under sedition (which is stupid btw) in India have been imprisoned for that amount of time.

Both countries think one is tolerant than the other, but they really are not.

Totally agree with this sentiment.

We have reports of abusive tweets being sent to Hassan Ali in Pakistan as well.
 
Hasan ali getting abused

People calling him shia and his wife indian , and he sold out for money.

Don't know whether these are genuine people or trolls with twitter accounts in the land of ganges .
 
There are abusive tweets but no abusing etweet based on ethnicity and religion

The real test would be if Hasan Ali was hindu and he had messed up in a crucial game against India like yesterday.

Would you still be then 100% sure that atleast a few those abusive tweets would not involve religion? I suppose we will never know until a minority player plays for Pakistan once again.
 
The real test would be if Hasan Ali was hindu and he had messed up in a crucial game against India like yesterday.

Would you still be then 100% sure that atleast a few those abusive tweets would not involve religion? I suppose we will never know until a minority player plays for Pakistan once again.

Dont stray off topic.
 
Hasan ali getting abused

People calling him shia and his wife indian , and he sold out for money.

Don't know whether these are genuine people or trolls with twitter accounts in the land of ganges .

We dont know who owns these accounts.
 
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