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Misbah-ul-Haq steps down from PCB Cricket Committee, applies for role of Head Coach

Should PCB appoint Misbah-ul-Haq as Head Coach for Pakistan?

  • Yes, he is an excellent choice

    Votes: 16 30.2%

  • No, he is not suited for this role

    Votes: 37 69.8%
  • Total voters
    53
Mamoon said:
I know, which is why I said that PCB should convince (not force) Kings to hire him.

I respect Misbah but this is wrong on multiple levels. He doesn’t fit the job description established by the PCB and the due process has clearly not been followed.
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bro, descriptions are often just paced there for the sake. Also he has held the role of captain and mentor in various domestic teams.

PLus, if you look at the third point, it kind of over rules the 2nd point.

Think about it, you want a level 2 coach but with 3 years of international experience?

Even in jobs that ask for 1 year experience they still hire newbies aswell.
 
I am open minded about this. Firstly why was he on a committee that sacked Mickey and now he could be appointed? At the moment he has only applied so I won’t lose my mind over this until he is appointed. But even when he is appointed, I’ll back him all the way.

I will be honest I can’t sit here and say he will do badly, but I cannot say with confidence he will be a success. I’ll see and wait what happens here.
 
Mamoon said:
That is the only logical conclusion. Since Misbah was interested in becoming the coach himself, there is no possible way he would have been objective in his assessment of Mickey.

PCB have goofed up for the umpteenth time. I was actually not in favor of Mickey getting an extension, but allowing his future to be influenced by a future candidate was ridiculous.

What was the point of forming a committee anyway? Do Ehsan Mani and Wasim Khan not trust their own judgement?
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Agree with this completely. Misbah is compromised - and he has only himself to blame. Way to taint his legacy.

Way to go PCB too - Absolute mockery of Pakistan cricket once again. This time by a more 'sauve' bunch.
 
Once again blame goes to Wasim Khan who seems to highly skilled and professional person in Pakistan Cricket board history but turned out to be a professional version of Shakil Sheikh who does corruption professional way. [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION],MMHS, SAVAK, Topspin...
 
Absolutely despicable and completely unethical behaviour.

Use an unacceptable Conflict of Interest to engineer a vacancy, then apply for that vacancy and resign-after-the-event from your conflicting role.

There should be a five year cooling off period before a Former Cricket Committee Member can apply for a role such as Coach or Chief Selector.

Absolute Third World Swamp behaviour on show here by a person whom I thought was a drab, dour defensive skipper, but whom I wrongly assumed could be trusted to follow decent ethical standards.
 
Major said:
bro, descriptions are often just paced there for the sake. Also he has held the role of captain and mentor in various domestic teams.

PLus, if you look at the third point, it kind of over rules the 2nd point.

Think about it, you want a level 2 coach but with 3 years of international experience?

Even in jobs that ask for 1 year experience they still hire newbies aswell.
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I agree. He has experience other foreign coaches don't. Misbah knows how to play in UAE which Mickey clearly lacked despite numerous international stints. Recent international captaincy experience counts for a lot when it's specialised in the conditions that Pakistan play. Especially the fact it's UAE even a lot of the local Pakistani coaches probably aren't as knowledgeable as Misbah is there as they never coached/played there unlike him.

I agree it's just a guideline, and I don't think it's poor of PCB to overlook that. Obviously if Misbah didn't have those things like his captaincy experience, work with domestic teams/PSL etc., then the 3 years experience is more important as what else can you go on. It's clear Misbah offers something more unique than the other coaches would, whether it's better or worse.

Conflict of interest is the biggest issue and is difficult to defend against. I think it's also probably a reason why it took Misbah so long to finally decide to put his hat into the ring, he's aware of it too.

Just comes into question if it was worth it, and if the other members in the committee truly believe Misbah didn't encourage the sack of Mickey for his own personal gains. I'm very sure Misbah didn't do that, I think he's trustworthy. People are quick to call out Misbah for this, but I wonder how many honestly believe he got Mickey sacked just so he could take the job. Even the people who dislike him.

I'd like to know what the competition really is of Misbah in terms of applicants once this is over. I mean the only other notable name I've heard so far is Dean Jones who hasn't exactly had a lot of proper coaching experience either. Sometimes you've got to relax your requirements if no one's meeting them, you have to appoint someone after all.
 
Under Misbah the committee probably made some changes to make the job very unattractive for any foreign coaches like reducing their vacation time, reducing traveling perks , condition to stay in Pakistan for longer and as planned, no foreign coach applied and Misbah got the job. Its nothing but job fixing, an act of corruption. Pakistan cricket is a loser here but Misbah is the only winner.
 
ads101 said:
I agree. He has experience other foreign coaches don't. Misbah knows how to play in UAE which Mickey clearly lacked despite numerous international stints. Recent international captaincy experience counts for a lot when it's specialised in the conditions that Pakistan play. Especially the fact it's UAE even a lot of the local Pakistani coaches probably aren't as knowledgeable as Misbah is there as they never coached/played there unlike him.

I agree it's just a guideline, and I don't think it's poor of PCB to overlook that. Obviously if Misbah didn't have those things like his captaincy experience, work with domestic teams/PSL etc., then the 3 years experience is more important as what else can you go on. It's clear Misbah offers something more unique than the other coaches would, whether it's better or worse.

Conflict of interest is the biggest issue and is difficult to defend against. I think it's also probably a reason why it took Misbah so long to finally decide to put his hat into the ring, he's aware of it too.

Just comes into question if it was worth it, and if the other members in the committee truly believe Misbah didn't encourage the sack of Mickey for his own personal gains. I'm very sure Misbah didn't do that, I think he's trustworthy. People are quick to call out Misbah for this, but I wonder how many honestly believe he got Mickey sacked just so he could take the job. Even the people who dislike him.

I'd like to know what the competition really is of Misbah in terms of applicants once this is over. I mean the only other notable name I've heard so far is Dean Jones who hasn't exactly had a lot of proper coaching experience either. Sometimes you've got to relax your requirements if no one's meeting them, you have to appoint someone after all.
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This post is clear example of loyalty to one individual Misbah ul Haq. Replace the name Misbah ul Haq with another individual not named Misbah ul Haq and same set of facts, the post would have arrived at an entirely different conclusion
 
I hope and pray to God that this appointment is sacked by the courts. Wasim Khan has been a real downer on this one
 
Savak said:
This post is clear example of loyalty to one individual Misbah ul Haq. Replace the name Misbah ul Haq with another individual not named Misbah ul Haq and same set of facts, the post would have arrived at an entirely different conclusion
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maybe, we all have our favourites and I do think favourably of the guy. I wouldn't give him the job, I'd still rather go with Dean Jones with Misbah as assistant or chief selector. Lack of experience and conflict of interest still puts me off. But I'm not that mad he applied and would prefer him certainly at least over Mickey.
 
Why the poll again ? in a similar poll just weeks ago PPers rejected Misbah as the coach of Pakistan team with 80% went against him, why a new poll now ?
 
This guy is a curse on Pakistan cricket. Selfish and deceptive person with no integrity. With a straight face he can tell a complete lie. He should be embarrassed of himself for playing a big part in getting rid of Micky and then applying for the job himself, but he has no shame.

His resignation is meaningless. He should have resigned from the committee prior to making the decision to get rid of Micky, but of course he didn't...he had to make sure Micky was gone first. This guy is a blight.
 
Misbah showed his true face when he wanted to burn his cricket equipment after not getting selected that time.

He also showed his true face by taking so long to retire - purely selfish, not for the good of Pakistan cricket. He had to be shown the door behind the scenes. God awful person and now we are stuck with him even years later.
 
Misbah’s selfishness in refusing to retire even after catastrophic series in South Africa, New Zealand and Australia led to the rise of Babar Azam being delayed and to two geriatric batsmen retiring together.

Meanwhile in Australia his absurd bowling choices (opening the bowling with Yasir Shah in Australia!) and catastrophic field placements led Ian Chappell to name Misbah as The Worst Captain Ever To Tour Australia).

And Pakistan want to make this man into the national team coach, even though he has never coached a First Class team?
 
osama.t said:
He hasn't been appointed as a coach, only applied.
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The fact he has been allowed to apply is in itself an outrage.

Look at India, making the likes of Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly, Tendulkar appear in front of ethics officer and requiring them to respond to conflict of interest charges while Misbah is shamelessly being allowed to get away with Murder.

And then we wonder why we have lagged far behind our neighbours. Their systems, processes, culture and working environment, philosophy is far superior and accountability driven in comparison to ours.

People use to allege that Afridi had a lot of power and influence in Pakistan Cricket but just look at Misbah ul Haqs career since 2007, the guy is a silent and lethal snake
 
Another surprise::

Taulented Faisal Iqbal will be our next batting coach.


PCB could easily get Steve Rodes as head coach
 
Pete Rose said:
we shall see. the conventional wisdom was that misbah had a lesser bunch of players hence we floundered in odi's. Its not like we did any better in tests either him.
To me what what matters is if he is going to bring his "safety first" approach to cricket or something that is more ambitious. We cant draw our way to the test championship.
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He is our most succesful test captain, what are you on about?
 
muqarrab said:
He is our most succesful test captain, what are you on about?
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Please stop with these out of context comparisons.
Hafeez, Afridi abd Malik are our most successful allrounders: which really means nothing considering how inadequate they are compared to a world standard allrounder.
He won nothing in Australia or South Africa. Before you tell me, no other Pakistani did, I don’t really care about that. We are competing with other teams, not with ourselves in World Test championship. He was a great captain at home for the most part.
He should apply, but I hope he has a plan on how we win away.
 
Savak said:
The fact he has been allowed to apply is in itself an outrage.

Look at India, making the likes of Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly, Tendulkar appear in front of ethics officer and requiring them to respond to conflict of interest charges while Misbah is shamelessly being allowed to get away with Murder.

And then we wonder why we have lagged far behind our neighbours. Their systems, processes, culture and working environment, philosophy is far superior and accountability driven in comparison to ours.

People use to allege that Afridi had a lot of power and influence in Pakistan Cricket but just look at Misbah ul Haqs career since 2007, the guy is a silent and lethal snake
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You can't stop anyone from applying. Even you can apply. All I care about is the appointment
 
Pete Rose said:
Please stop with these out of context comparisons.
Hafeez, Afridi abd Malik are our most successful allrounders: which really means nothing considering how inadequate they are compared to a world standard allrounder.
He won nothing in Australia or South Africa. Before you tell me, no other Pakistani did, I don’t really care about that. We are competing with other teams, not with ourselves in World Test championship. He was a great captain at home for the most part.
He should apply, but I hope he has a plan on how we win away.
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We topped test rankings under him, again what are you on about? We had our most stable test outfit under him, i.e. since the 50s.Nothing of what you are saying is grounded in fact.
 
muqarrab said:
We topped test rankings under him, again what are you on about? We had our most stable test outfit under him, i.e. since the 50s.Nothing of what you are saying is grounded in fact.
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We topped test ranking thanks to two chuckers who Misbah used for all his success at UAE roads, we all know what happened when those chuckers were banned by ICC and Misbah took his team to New Zealand and Australia when he himself was 43 year old, shameful.
 
moghul said:
We topped test ranking thanks to two chuckers who Misbah used for all his success at UAE roads, we all know what happened when those chuckers were banned by ICC and Misbah took his team to New Zealand and Australia when he himself was 43 year old, shameful.
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You can only beat whats in front of you maximizing whats at your disposal. Misbah maximized utility of his resources. Whats the issue? Or you'd rather lose the final test againt south africa? Or lose the series against zimbabwe? Or wait captain and coach the team in such an asinine way that england wins the series in dark?

Btw, who is the second chukcer?
 
Misbah's salary an issue as PCB look to rope him in as coach

Former Pakistan cricket team captain Misbah-ul Haq is considered to be leading the race to become the head coach of his national side. However, there seems to be issues with the fee that he has asked for the role from the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

According to a report published in Pakistan's English daily The Express Tribune, Misbah wants his salary to be in line with his predecessor Mickey Arthur. The PCB though is said to be reluctant to pay such a massive amount to a local coach.

Another pointer that could lead to a deadlock is the fact that Misbah is also a coach in the Pakistan Super League (PSL) and the PCB wants him to leave that position as they believe the national coach should not perform dual roles.

Significantly, PCB chairman Ehsan Mani had made it clear that having dual roles — with the national team and a PSL franchise — will no longer be accepted as per the board's new constitution.

According to sources, these two are the main reasons why Misbah didn't apply for the head coach's position till the eleventh hour.

Other than Misbah, former Pakistan coach Mohsin Khan and former Australian cricketer Dean Jones have also applied for the position of head coach.

Source::::https://www.gulftoday.ae/sport/2019/08/28/misbah-salary-an-issue-as-pcb-look-to-rope-him-in-as-coach
 
good, simple concept of labor demand.

If PCB wants him that badly than spit out the money. Its the PCB that approached him not him approaching PCB
 
Major said:
good, simple concept of labor demand.

If PCB wants him that badly than spit out the money. Its the PCB that approached him not him approaching PCB
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How does misbah justify a salary of that magnetude, mickey arthur led pakistan to a icc event glory in 2017
 
The guy has yet to coach a national team and he is already asking for hefty money. So much for doing it for the nation.
 
Local coach shouldn't receive as much as foreign coach (specially when there is not enough coaching experience).

Poor from Misbah.
 
Manunited18 said:
How does misbah justify a salary of that magnetude, mickey arthur led pakistan to a icc event glory in 2017
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See if I approach an organization for a job, they will give a pay according to what they think is acceptable.

Now if an organization approaches me for a job and try to convince me to come over, i will try to bargain and get a better pay cheque. Plus, i will also study the market situation, i will see with whom i am competing and how serious the organization is after me.
 
Shazzam said:
The guy has yet to coach a national team and he is already asking for hefty money. So much for doing it for the nation.
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bro he never said he was doing it for the nation. This is just assumed.

At the end of the day no one works for free, whether its a govt job or not.
 
Will be a mockery of the standards Wasim Khan sets for himself if he hires anyone who isn’t qualified for coaching. I admire Misbah’s commitment to cricket but him applying for the head coach role does not make sense...maybe a batting coach...maybe selector but head friggin coach? Even someone like Grant Flower who has been actual coach for the last 10 years was hesitant in saying his next role would be one of head coach. Had he gone for U19 like Younis did it would still be palatable.

Pakistanis have unique brains tbh.
 
sshakir411 said:
Will be a mockery of the standards Wasim Khan sets for himself if he hires anyone who isn’t qualified for coaching. I admire Misbah’s commitment to cricket but him applying for the head coach role does not make sense...maybe a batting coach...maybe selector but head friggin coach? Even someone like Grant Flower who has been actual coach for the last 10 years was hesitant in saying his next role would be one of head coach. Had he gone for U19 like Younis did it would still be palatable.

Pakistanis have unique brains tbh.
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These are the credentials for the head coach position that PCB themselves advertized. Can any expert please enlighten us how many of these criteria does Misbah the saviour meet. It's like hiring a fresh graduate with zero experience as the CEO of your company. Absolutely pathetic decision if it happens, Wasim Khan is showing that he is all talk and zero substance.

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Junaids said:
Misbah’s selfishness in refusing to retire even after catastrophic series in South Africa, New Zealand and Australia led to the rise of Babar Azam being delayed and to two geriatric batsmen retiring together.

Meanwhile in Australia his absurd bowling choices (opening the bowling with Yasir Shah in Australia!) and catastrophic field placements led Ian Chappell to name Misbah as The Worst Captain Ever To Tour Australia).

And Pakistan want to make this man into the national team coach, even though he has never coached a First Class team?
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I've come to the conclusion that a huge number of Pakistan cricket fans, even including highly educated ones, are complete idiots.

However, I do feel there is a silent majority that are sensible. Even in recent polls on PP, something like 70-75% of people didn't want him as coach.
 
Syed1 said:
These are the credentials for the head coach position that PCB themselves advertized. Can any expert please enlighten us how many of these criteria does Misbah the saviour meet. It's like hiring a fresh graduate with zero experience as the CEO of your company. Absolutely pathetic decision if it happens, Wasim Khan is showing that he is all talk and zero substance.

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Bro, when Ravi Shastri got the gig with India, he also didnt meet all the requirements as it said that they needed a coach with past coaching experience.

Dave Whatmore was heaviliy under qualified when starting out with Sri Lanka.
 
Based on media reports, am pretty sure he's on his way in. Lets accept it and move on with life!
 
Misbah, Waqar front runners for posts of head coach, bowling coach

LAHORE: After the interviews of candidates for the post of head coach of Pakistan team have been completed, the interviews for the post of bowling coach are likely to be conducted by a five-member panel of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) here on Friday.

On Thursday, ex-captain Misbah-ul-Haq, former Test opener Mohsin Hasan Khan and ex-Australian batsman Dean Jones (through video-link) were interviewed for the post of head coach.

Former Pakistan captain and head coach Waqar Younus also appeared for the post of bowling coach and, after another candidate Mohammad Akram withdrew his name in Waqar’s favour, the legendary fast bowler’s chances of getting selected for the coveted post are looking bright. However, former West Indian Test and ODI bowler Courtney Walsh’s interview is also on the cards and he is likely appear for an interview through video-link soon which could well prove to be competition for Waqar.

It is learnt that Misbah is front-runner for the head coach after the interview as both Mohsin and Dean Jones may not get the post for different reasons. The age factor in Mohsin’s case (he is 65-year-old) and being a foreigner in Jones’ case could go against them when pitted against Misbah. The experiment of foreign coaches has not been too fruitful for Pakistan in the past and Jones could miss the bus on that ground.

And though Mohsin as interim coach back in 2012 proved successful as Pakistan whitewashed the then world No.1 team England in the UAE in the three-Test series, Misbah as captain of that team also led from the front while off-spinner Saeed Ajmal did wonders with his bowling to stun the world leaders. Misbah surely is a heavyweight because of his strong credentials compared to Mohsin and Jones. He has been the most successful skipper of Pakistan, has the ability to spot talent and to inculcate a fighting spirit among the players.

The veteran right-handed batsman is also well versed with to domestic cricket since he has been playing in the circuit till last year despite announcing his retirement from all international cricket back in 2017. Under his captaincy Pakistan earned top spot in the Test cricket in 2016-17.

Also, unlike the foreign coaches who prefer to spend more time out of the country during off duty days for security and family reasons, Misbah will be available to the PCB throughout the year, which Jones can’t do, due to a foreigner, who don’t prefers to have a longer period stay in the country due to security fears, as Mickey Arthur, the previous head coach of Pakistan had also been doing.

In bowling department, Waqar Younus is also front-runner, though Courtney is a strong candidate, too. But as a bowler, Courtney will surely match the Waqar’s credentials as in coaching experience, the Pakistani is far away from him as he had performed on this post twice in the past. The PCB will also be wary of the fact that dealing with Waqar has not been easy during the past as he was quit the post as head coach twice (in 2011 and 2016) and as bowling coach in 2007 in controversial circumstances.

Moreover, Waqar’s relationship with the current captain Sarfraz Ahmad was also not an ideal one.

The interview panel for the bowling coach is likely to comprise Wasim Khan (PCB Chief Executive), Zakir Khan (Director International Cricket), Asad Ali Khan (a member of the Board of Governor) and two independent members — Intikhab Alam and Bazid Khan.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1502442/misbah-waqar-front-runners-for-posts-of-head-coach-bowling-coach
 
Misbah was extremely risk averse and himself got pretty horrible batting technique, what he's gonna teach to young batsmen (oh i mean 30+ batsmen because apparently he doesn't rate youngsters) The only thing he can do is to gel the team with discipline and fitness that's it.
 
MenInG said:
Based on media reports, am pretty sure he's on his way in. Lets accept it and move on with life!
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Media has been broadcasting this for more than a month. First they were saying Misbah will be our new head coach after Misbah finally applied they are saying Misbah is a front runner for head coach.
 
Various medias and Basit Ali confirmed Misbah as a head coach.
Bowling coach: Waqar
Batting coach: Faisal
Spin coach: Ajmal
Dark days ahead!!! RIP Pakistan cricket.
 
Former Pakistan captain Misbah-ul-Haq is expected to be announced as the new head coach-cum-chief selector of the national team on Wednesday, according to sources.

Another former captain Waqar Younis is also likely to be named as the bowling coach of the team.


"Pakistan Cricket Board will make the announcement on Wednesday after having completed negotiations with Misbah over his pay package," a reliable source old PTI on condition of anonymity.

"Waqar Younis had also successfully completed negotiations with the board and is likely to be named as the bowling coach of the team," the source added.

The 45-year-old Misbah has played 75 tests and 162 ODIs and he also became the most successful Pakistan Test captain between 2010 and 2017.

It will be his first coaching assignment at any level although he has captained teams at every level.

"The new head coach and his support staff will be given a performance based contract until the 2023 World Cup," the source said.

The source said Misbah's appointment has the backing of PCB Patron-in-Chief and Prime Minister Imran Khan who wants him to play the role of a mentor and planner to allow more space and authority to the captain to make decisions.

Once the announcement of the appointment of Misbah and Waqar is made, the PCB in consultation with the duo will then choose the rest of the support staff.

The PCB is due to appoint a new set of support staff after it decided not to renew the contracts of head coach Mickey Arthur, bowling coach Azhar Mahmood and batting coach Grant Flower after the World Cup.

Arthur, Azhar and Grant were with the Pakistan team for the last three years.

The first assignment for the new team management will be a home series of three ODIs and three T20 Internationals against Sri Lanka from September 27.

Before the series against Sri Lanka, all the centrally contracted players have been told to appear in the first round of the new look Quaid-e-Azam Trophy first class event from September 14.

https://www.business-standard.com/a...ctor-on-wednesday-sources-119090301207_1.html
 
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