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Misbah-ul-Haq vs MS Dhoni - Who is the better Test batsman?

Is this even a question? Misbah without a doubt. To be fair to Dhoni he is a wicketkeeper.
 
I would trust misbah to save a test match rather than dhoni. Dhoni is good for LOI's only.

Where they excel :
- Misbah can save you a Test in the subcontinent.
- Dhoni can win you a Test in the subcontinent.

Where they fail :
- Misbah can't save you a match overseas.
- Dhoni can't save you a match overseas.

Just because Misbah has a brilliant front-foot tuk tuk about him does not make him The Wall.
 
This is silly thread... Why you want to compare specialist batsmen to wicket keeper?? - Fans don't understand test cricket... OP's IQ is under question ;-)

Comparing Gilly and Dhoni make sense or Dhoni and Prior or Dhoni and Sarfraz (sample size too low, we need to revist in couple of years)...

Misbah can be compared to Clark or Mehala or AB etc... In pretty much all cases Misbah looses, but at home he is not too shabby!!

Initially I thought we are comparing Captaincy... In that case both have not done well overseas, their tactics are tailored made for low and slow conditions, I am afraid they both don't understand bounce and green... I am hoping in case of Pakistan things may change if both Amir and Asif are back, then we can build a team, well like SA!!

In ODIs, Dhoni is monster, their success in LOIs has lot to do with Dhoni...He is best LOI captain in this era, Indian fans will realize when he departs.
 
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This is silly thread... Why you want to compare specialist batsmen to wicket keeper?? - Fans don't understand test cricket... OP's IQ is under question ;-)

Comparing Gilly and Dhoni make sense or Dhoni and Prior or Dhoni and Sarfraz (sample size too low, we need to revist in couple of years)...

Misbah can be compared to Clark or Mehala or AB etc... In pretty much all cases Misbah looses, but at home he is not too shabby!!

Initially I thought we are comparing Captaincy... In that case both have not done well overseas, their tactics are tailored made for low and slow conditions, I am afraid they both don't understand bounce and green... I am hoping in case of Pakistan things may change if both Amir and Asif are back, then we can build a team, well like SA!!

In ODIs, Dhoni is monster, their success in LOIs has lot to do with Dhoni...He is best LOI captain in this era, Indian fans will realize when he departs.

We all acknowledge that.

Its the tests we have a problem with him.
 
This is silly thread... Why you want to compare specialist batsmen to wicket keeper?? - Fans don't understand test cricket... OP's IQ is under question ;-)

Comparing Gilly and Dhoni make sense or Dhoni and Prior or Dhoni and Sarfraz (sample size too low, we need to revist in couple of years)...

Misbah can be compared to Clark or Mehala or AB etc... In pretty much all cases Misbah looses, but at home he is not too shabby!!

Initially I thought we are comparing Captaincy... In that case both have not done well overseas, their tactics are tailored made for low and slow conditions, I am afraid they both don't understand bounce and green... I am hoping in case of Pakistan things may change if both Amir and Asif are back, then we can build a team, well like SA!!

In ODIs, Dhoni is monster, their success in LOIs has lot to do with Dhoni...He is best LOI captain in this era, Indian fans will realize when he departs.
Best post in this thread so far.
 
if misbah failed in england ......this debate will continue
if misbah manage to win or draw series then this debate will be consider as close
and result will be in favour of misbah
 
What an insult to Misbah.

Dhoni in whites was the definition of crapola.
 
I think both were equal. While Dhoni has a slightly superior away record, Misbah boasts of a better home record.
 
I think both were equal. While Dhoni has a slightly superior away record, Misbah boasts of a better home record.

No Dhoni doesn't. Misbah averages over 40 away, while Dhoni averages 32.
 
No Dhoni doesn't. Misbah averages over 40 away, while Dhoni averages 32.

When I say away, I mean conditions that really are foreign, i.e. SA, England, NZ and Aus. Misbah averages something like 28 in these countries.
 
Misbah was always better batsman, btw this comparison is not right , Dhoni was wicketkeeper batsman so a wkb average is around 40, he is same as middle order batsman of average.
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My problem with Dhoni was his average in Australia when he played on some of the flat tracks and Harbhajan outscored him.
 
What a ridiculous comparison! Of course Misbah has been the better Test batsman.
 
^^From the comments above, I can see this ridiculous notion where people rate a particular batsman higher simply because of his playing style. What value is your stance and balance when you end up with a tailender's stats in challenging conditions?
 
Dhoni was a very poor test captain and responsible for India's worst test series results in the last 20 years but he is still an India great in the test format. Would be a starter in India's all time first xi.

Of course, in ODIs, he is probably a starter in the all time world xi.
 
Misbah is a superior test cricketer overall..

Dhoni is far superior LOI cricketer.
 
Dhoni was too bad in test...can called only as a handy player lower down the order

Misbah is declining but still far better batsman dhoni ever was
 
Misbah easily, Dhonis top knock is the one trying for a draw in England and the double against Aus in Chennai , can't recall any other remarkable knock.
 
Misbah easily, Dhonis top knock is the one trying for a draw in England and the double against Aus in Chennai , can't recall any other remarkable knock.

Well the one in Kolkata that took India to no.1?


Its funny to see Indians criticising MSD's batting in tests its like we had Gilly like players before him and after his retirement waiting to smash the opposition :)) He was by far the best WK-Bat we've had in test cricket. Let me know when Saha or Ojha or Parthiv :)) play a match changing knock.
 
Well the one in Kolkata that took India to no.1?


Its funny to see Indians criticising MSD's batting in tests its like we had Gilly like players before him and after his retirement waiting to smash the opposition :)) He was by far the best WK-Bat we've had in test cricket. Let me know when Saha or Ojha or Parthiv :)) play a match changing knock.

That is true he is defn our best wk batsman but the thread was abt his comparison with Misbah.
 
That is true he is defn our best wk batsman but the thread was abt his comparison with Misbah.

I know and Misbah is easily the better batsman but some comments are unwarranted and suggests like he was absolutely useless with the bat.
 
Misbah is a far better batsman and a superior captain to Dhoni in the test format. The kuptaan is finished now, however, and should retire after the SCG test match.
 
Why has this been bumped? Misbah still a far superior Test cricketer.
 
Problem with Dhoni was never his keeping . He came in the Captian-Wk-Batsman package. We had to take all 3 !. His good - passable form in the latter 2 disciplines forced us to keep suffering his rather poor efforts in the first for a very long time.
 
The difference between the 2 is, while Misbah is a selfless, honest cricketer who places his country above him, Dhoni is an insecured, selfish player always conniving to maintain his position with the board.

And this is coming from an Indian
 
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