By securing Pakistan's first ever series win in the Caribbean, Misbah now has overseas series wins in New Zealand, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Additionally he also drew in England, which is his crowning achievement. He only failed in Australia and South Africa, where Asian teams always struggle. So I would say that Misbah has a pretty good overseas record for an Asian Captain.
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After leading us to 6 consecutive defeat , 5 of them in New Zealand and Australia , he won against the weakest and the most inexperienced WI team ever, Bravo. Oh yeah, he has won against BD, and Zimbabwe too, could have won against Afghanistan also.
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That's a fair and highly intellectual assessment, totally agree with you. Given his limited resources, playing away from home and all other external factors in the aftermath of the spot fixing saga Misbah's Pakistan has overachieved. It all culminated in our no.1 ranking after drawing level in England which was our peak but this is another feather in the cap, breaking the deadlock in the West Indies; in addition Misbah retires with an unbeaten record in the UAE. All round a future hall of famer and all time great captain, PERIOD.
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He wasn't playing the second Test in NZ.
What was the result of the 4 tests he played in that tour and how many runs he scored. Even I could have scored few runs against this WI team on such a slow wickets.
Still doesn't diminish his achievements. Funny that you forgot to mention that he also drew a 4 match series in England and also has series wins in New Zealand and Sri Lanka.
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No you couldn't have scored a run that's why you are sitting here commenting
Every team has its ups and downs. Ours were in Australia and NZ. We won in NZ with a very similar team back in 2010 and it was a very underprepared team in NZ, no warm ups and nothing. Even SAF succumbed to us in 2013 UAE series in first test, so did India to SAF in SAF in the first Test in 2011. India didn't remove Dhoni as captain neither did SAF remove Smith from captaincy. As for Australia, even the best teams of our history have failed to win there, even though our team fought very well in the first two tests.
There are always banes of batsmen, for Misbah it was Australia and South Africa. Even greats like Ponting were very poor in India and SL. Give the man where it's due. No one in history has been able to graft these many runs at that age with consistency as Misbah did. His peak was long gone since 2008. It was only his sheer determination and headstrong temperament that he was able to do so much.
I reckon you watch Cinderella and other fairytales where the protagonists are perfect
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No you couldn't have scored a run that's why you are sitting here commenting
Every team has its ups and downs. Ours were in Australia and NZ. We won in NZ with a very similar team back in 2010 and it was a very underprepared team in NZ, no warm ups and nothing. Even SAF succumbed to us in 2013 UAE series in first test, so did India to SAF in SAF in the first Test in 2011. India didn't remove Dhoni as captain neither did SAF remove Smith from captaincy. As for Australia, even the best teams of our history have failed to win there, even though our team fought very well in the first two tests.
There are always banes of batsmen, for Misbah it was Australia and South Africa. Even greats like Ponting were very poor in India and SL. Give the man where it's due. No one in history has been able to graft these many runs at that age with consistency as Misbah did. His peak was long gone since 2008. It was only his sheer determination and headstrong temperament that he was able to do so much.
I reckon you watch Cinderella and other fairytales where the protagonists are perfect
He was a good batsman, not great, when he was younger and was a good captain then. But it was nothing but selfishness when he kept playing ( and SYK allowed him ) when he was too old to play and the result was very obvious and expected. We don't get tour of Australia every year and and it was a good chance to play some good cricket their and win a test or two their but this selfish guy spoiled it all.
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Misbsh has retired from all forms of cricket. It is time to move on from bashing him day in and out.
I strongly disagree.
It's not enough to say "Asian teams always struggle" in Australia and South Africa.
Firstly, until the 21st century Pakistan actually didn't. They tended to either draw their series there or lose by a 1 Test margin - even the 1999-2000 "3-0" defeat in Australia would have been level at 1-1 if Pakistan had successfully defended 366 after reducing Australia to 140-5.
I have mixed feelings about Misbah.
I admire his cool head, his dignity, his even temper. I admire how he took a fairly ordinary technique and through hard work and professionalism he took an aged body far beyond what it should have achieved.
But let's be frank: he was a dreadful captain outside Asia. Absolutely pathetically bad.
The only good thing that can be said about his captaincy this last nine months in England, New Zealand, Australia and the West Indies is "he didn't use DRS rashly".
He drew a series he should have won in England, and he drew it because his team lost at Edgbaston because of his mistakes in terms of:
1. Incorrect composition of the bowling attack, which exhausted his overworked quicks.
2. Defending in the field when he needed to go for the kill.
3. Borderline criminal fields for Yasir Shah to bowl to.
New Zealand and Australia were ruined by the same errors. I will argue to the end of my days that if he had had Salman Butt and either Mohammad Abbas or Asif in the team both series would have been won, but he also had to pick a 4th quick who could bat. I don't believe that Hammad Azam is a worse bowler than Hilton Cartwright or Colin de Grandhomme.
As I'm going to argue in a thread later today, Misbah was crippled overseas as skipper by his own conservatism. He never adapted to the need to play the game differently from in Asia.
Nice guy. Surprisingly decent batsman in Asia or against weak attacks. Lousy captain outside Asia.
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Bechare ko chor do. Khuda ka waasta hai 
He's been poor as a captain on field, but many of his decisions (like Shadab Khan in 2nd test, non-availability of Asif, etc) were enjoined upon him by others.
Pakistan would have lost it in England had it not been for Misbah's Lard's 100 or his persistence on picking YK, who was the main architect for the last win.
Technique is overplayed, it is not like all modern greats of the game have best technique. One of the best openers of modern times (Graeme Smith) had an awful technique despite facing the moving ball from the word go. Plus, Misbah has he has been more than decent outside Asia, especially before 2016. Give credit where due
Thanks for the service Misbah, people seem to find faults in everything and he was by no means perfect. But he took over a month team at the lowest of its lows and made them a formidable team again.
He didn't have a Wasim and Waqar or even a Shoaib and Asif attack. In fact he was handed the most docile of pace attacks in Pakistan history, but he still managed to decent abroad.
Haters will always hate. But 7 years of Misbah has taken Pakistan from the lowest of lows to a pretty good position in test cricket.
He didn't have a Wasim and Waqar or even a Shoaib and Asif attack. In fact he was handed the most docile of pace attacks in Pakistan history, but he still managed to decent abroad.
Haters will always hate. But 7 years of Misbah has taken Pakistan from the lowest of lows to a pretty good position in test cricket.
Pakistan with much better teams than the current one lost 5-1 in Australia in the 90's and lost 2-1 in South Africa. The 98 series should really have been won by Pakistan but all the politics and infighting meant, we only drew the series. Thats where Misbah has been the best, he brought calmness and to the dressing room and performed better on field than their predecessors who were much more talented but still couldn't deliver on the field.
Top post.
May I ask why no mention of England tour? Don't fit your agenda?
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He took Pakistan to #1 ranking and that is enough on his captaincy legacy. Stop hating. How many Pakistan captain can claim that? 20? 10? 5? Are we down to 3? How about 2? I wasted 3 minutes of my time replying.
Agreed. One single player can only do so much especially when he is coming into matches that are 50/3 all the time, no matter what format it is. Had great moments as a batsmen and did a great job at carrying Pakistan when it was in total tatters. He made the team unbeatable at UAE and got them to the #1 spot and that alone deserves all the praise.
I don't think people understand that the roster Pakistan has had the past decade has been a disaster, whether that's in ODI or Tests. Retread failures like Akmal, Jamshed, Shehzad etc have been used so often because for the most part, there has been a lack of alternatives. Some have been unjustly ignored, however but Misbah isn't responsible for selecting the entire squad so I don't think you can quite blame it on him. People will always mock him for his tuk-tuk style but he made it work.
One thing I do always wonder about is how good the ODI team's could have been under him if they had some batting under his captaincy because Misbah used his spinners so well and held team's to low scores in an era where 300+ has become the norm.
No you couldn't.
Wonderful logic is this - Misbah deserves all the blame for the defeats but no credit for the victories.
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Pretty much the logic of his inept naysayers.
But the fact is Misbah's Pakistan was one of our greatest Test Teams ever, outside Imran Khan's Pakistan and Inzi/Woolmer's Pakistan what did we accomplish before Misbah took over in 2010?
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Misbah was basically the English side bully..
Well, every captain has some team, which they like to bully.
Misbahs home record is criminally underrated, the criticisms are absurd, like it's easy to win in UAE. Why exactly? It's not exactly home conditions nor is there a home crowd advantage. But let's just downplay the wins in UAE, because it gets in the way of Misbah criticism.
The problem with Pakistan cricket is, people just wanna hate. There must be some kind of hatred for everyone, be it Imran Khan or Javed Miandad or Wasim or Waqar or Inzi and now Misbah and Younis, there's always something they will find or create in their minds to hate on others with.
The problem with Pakistan cricket is, people just wanna hate. There must be some kind of hatred for everyone, be it Imran Khan or Javed Miandad or Wasim or Waqar or Inzi and now Misbah and Younis, there's always something they will find or create in their minds to hate on others with.
Excellent post. If its so easy to win at home, then why is Misbah only the SECOND Asian skipper after Imran Khan to have a spotless home record ?
Our Test record in the 90s and 00s at home was patchy, so home form cannot be taken for granted.
I read that no Asian Test captain has won more test matches against England than Misbah. He has 7 wins in 10 Test matches against England.
And the England team of the 2010s is vastly superior to many of its predecessors.
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Because currently the way cricket is played, batsmen are absolutely clueless playing spin bowling outside their own countries. It's the reason AUS and ENG and SA get slapped when going to India and SL. Our spinners, Shah, Ajmal, Babar, Rehman have been taking wickets to put us in position to win the games.
That's not our problem. We can only play what's in front of us.
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Yes.. this England side is definitely superior to the previous ones,particularly, in the last two decades.They had Cook, KP/Root, Anderson, Broad, Swann all of them at worse an England great and doing well against them is no small deal. However, the fact that they failed to replicate similar performances vs other sides left quite a few things uncovered.
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Thats why ENG won a test series in India in 2012 but got smashed twice by team misbah.
Wow such hatred isn't healthy you know.
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What a way to 'Bully' a side that was Number 1 officially one time, and almost there second time as well...even when we drew, that bullied team was considered one of the best in Tests if not the best!
Bullies usually pick on the weaker ones, you do know purely by definition that does not work here anyway?
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So you are better than Babar Azam as well, who is considered once in a lifetime player by many (already) and he pretty much failed miserably in the series by his standards including 3-4 ducks?
If your answer is yes, I will start an online petition to get you included in the team ASAP, hopefully we can get you in there by our next series against a weak team
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Yes, it was a very good achievement nevertheless.
