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"Moeen Ali is now one of the most significant cricketers of this generation" : Nasser Hussain

By NASSER HUSSAIN FOR THE DAILY MAIL

There is a lot of pride, as a former captain, in watching England win, as they did so well at Old Trafford against South Africa, but I don’t think I have ever been so proud as when I watched them after their fourth Test success.

That pride came when Alastair Cook led the way in making sure Moeen Ali was included in all the celebrations and pictures, before the man of the series moved to one side to let his team-mates spray the obligatory champagne everywhere.

It was clear the rest of the squad appreciated everything Moeen stands for, not just as an outstanding cricketer but also as a man of Islamic faith who has become such an important sporting figure in our country.

They would not pop any champagne corks anywhere near him and that showed the values of the team and the respect they have in making sure there was no belittling of their team-mate’s beliefs in any way.

Moeen Ali is now one of the most significant cricketers of this generation because of that faith and because of his crucial status as a role model for British Asians.

The way he behaves makes him so impressive.

You know who the most popular members of the team are when they come out to bat. With England, Ben Stokes always gets a huge roar because of the way he plays, then Moeen is right up there because of the whole package and what it means to the nation for us to have someone like him.

It is a sign, in many ways, of how far we have come. With everything that is going on in the world, the cheer Moeen gets from cricket fans of all backgrounds shows how popular he is and how well he copes with being a role model. Lots of British Asians must want to be Moeen Ali now.

When I played against India or Pakistan in this country, there would be British Asians calling me a traitor.

I must emphasise there was never any malice, more pantomime banter stuff — and even in recent times there were some India fans who booed Moeen at Edgbaston in his home city of Birmingham.

Conversely, whenever I played in India there was a lot of warmth and pride shown towards me because I was a bloke who had been born in Chennai to an Indian father and English mother and who went on to captain England. It is clear Moeen is very proud of his Pakistani heritage but he is also incredibly proud of coming from Birmingham and being an Englishman.

He wants kids like him to aspire to play for England, as I did.

We have just had a Champions Trophy here and whenever India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka played, you could see just how cricket-mad their English-based supporters were.

Why are we still not tapping into that market and producing more England cricketers from those backgrounds?

I used to see loads of talented young kids, third or fourth-generation British Asians, at my dad’s cricket school in Ilford when I played and you could see and appreciate their love of the game.

Now I watch a lot of Essex age group cricket and the sides are filled with British Asians, but for some reason too few of them come through at the highest level.

We must make sure they are not lost to the game because it could make such a difference to them and us for them to be fully integrated. But it is complicated.

When Lord Tebbit said in 1990 that you could test the ‘loyalty’ of immigrants by finding out which country they supported at cricket, my mum got involved and said how strongly we backed England.

I have to say, though, that if I ever moved to Australia I would still support England and I would expect my kids to do so as well, at least initially. But if they were to buy into living in that country, that would eventually have to change.

My family came to live in Essex when I was five or six and my heroes were all either English, such as David Gower and Graham Gooch, or European like Seve Ballesteros. When England played cricket I always supported them. I can honestly say racism was never a problem for me growing up and playing cricket, but there were times when culture became an issue.

Once I was netting at Old Trafford before facing Pakistan and two young British Asians started telling me how Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis were going to get me. I looked at them and thought: ‘I know they are your heroes but how about wanting to play for, or supporting, England?

I talked about it publicly afterwards and Imran Khan came back by saying it was easy for me to say that, being ‘white’ and having gone to an English private school. It wasn’t so easy for others from Asian backgrounds to feel included.

They were fair points and it’s true I wasn’t brought up to be in any way religious. I’ve never spoken my dad’s first language but I’ve always been extremely proud of my Indian side and always will be.

The bottom line is that Moeen has become an outstanding cricketer. He makes batting look so easy and is Gower-esque in his strokeplay, and he has learned to bowl off-spin while playing for England.

That’s remarkable when you consider he had been a part-time spinner in county cricket.

I have to be honest, I would have loved and hated captaining Moeen. The frustration would come because there might be three men out on the hook and next ball he would hit it straight to one of them.

There must be a temptation as a coach to drag him to one side and say, ‘Mo, do you know how much ability you’ve got?’

But it is to England’s credit that they handle him well and Trevor Bayliss and Paul Farbrace realise that’s what makes him the cricketer he is. Moeen has enough on his plate without worrying too much about the wider picture, but he doesn’t have to think too deeply about it. He just has to carry on being himself.

He has become one of England’s best players and, without being too heavy about it, can be a force for good in troubled times.

We are blessed to have him in so many ways.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-4772908/Moeen-Ali-force-good-troubled-times.html
 
Don't know if he is one of the "most significant" cricketers of our generation but he is certainly is a useful AR.
 
Good article but don't agree with Moen being one of the most significant cricketers of this generation. Yes he may inspire British Muslims to play cricket but he won't inspire people from other countries. A decent off spinner and inconsistent batsmen won't inspire people into cricket. Moens path to cricket wil be the inspiration for British Muslims.

As much as Pakistan fans don't want to hear it, someone like Virat Kohli is a more significant influence in this generation due to his batting and attitude towards fielding.
 
A good read, but I don't think many more Asians will want to play for England just because of Moeen Ali. He's a great role-model but I still find that most young Asians are still supporting India or Pakistan depending on where their family is from.
 
A good read, but I don't think many more Asians will want to play for England just because of Moeen Ali. He's a great role-model but I still find that most young Asians are still supporting India or Pakistan depending on where their family is from.

Pretty sure Mo grew up supporting Pak to and even Usain Bolt grew up supporting Pak :akhtar but at the end of the day folk will aim to represent their country
 
One of the most significant for Eng for sure.
 
Good article but don't agree with Moen being one of the most significant cricketers of this generation. Yes he may inspire British Muslims to play cricket but he won't inspire people from other countries. A decent off spinner and inconsistent batsmen won't inspire people into cricket. Moens path to cricket wil be the inspiration for British Muslims.

As much as Pakistan fans don't want to hear it, someone like Virat Kohli is a more significant influence in this generation due to his batting and attitude towards fielding.

He was talking from an English cricket perspective. Moeen is definitely a massive inspiration for a lot of British Asians. A proper role model.

Those saying that it won't change who British Asians support - I don't think that's the point. Those talented enough from the community to play at the highest level can definitely use the example of Moeen and be inspired by him to get there. It's naive to think that just because someone may support Pakistan or Indian cricket teams as fans will not avail the opportunity to play cricket at the highest level for England if they had the talent and ability to do so.
 
Great article by Nas.Yes,Moeen can certainly serve as a role model for British Asians,especially Muslims.He shows that you can reach the highest level.
 
same M. Ali who was hammered in India?
Significant player for England? Perhaps..
Significant player in World? Not even close.

Hussain is just hyping up English player(s) to the moon like they have been doing for ages.
 
same M. Ali who was hammered in India?
Significant player for England? Perhaps..
Significant player in World? Not even close.

Hussain is just hyping up English player(s) to the moon like they have been doing for ages.

Its best to actually read the article instead of just the title.

He's talking about his significance in a cultural sense and the impact he may have on inspiring more British Asians to take up cricket.
 
Its best to actually read the article instead of just the title.

He's talking about his significance in a cultural sense and the impact he may have on inspiring more British Asians to take up cricket.

my appologies in that case. Im driving and only saw the headlines. anyways thank u gor correcting me.

If he is inspiring next generation of cricketers(asian brits) to take up sport then i agree with Nas, M Ali can do What Sachin did to India in 90s Inspired.
 
same M. Ali who was hammered in India?
Significant player for England? Perhaps..
Significant player in World? Not even close.

Hussain is just hyping up English player(s) to the moon like they have been doing for ages.

The same Moeen Ali who also hammered India in England.

Nice to reference the one instance your team did not get battered.

Focus on driving, not texting.
 
Pretty sure Mo grew up supporting Pak to and even Usain Bolt grew up supporting Pak :akhtar but at the end of the day folk will aim to represent their country

They're professionals. Even though I support Man Utd and had a chance to play for Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City etc. I would most definitely take it. Same goes for supporting Pakistan and playing for England. Just because you support one team doesn't mean you can't play another, and that's exactly what Moeen represents.

A great lad and an inspiration.
 
As a British Pakistani I definitely look up to Moeen Ali but I will always support Pakistan. If Nasser is trying to say moeen Ali will create more support for England as British Pakistanis will support England more i think he's wrong because British Pakistanis will majority of the time support Pakistan. I only support England when they r not playing Pakistan.
 
Moeen is turning out to be a fantastic impact cricketer. His numbers may not be the flashiest, but he usually shows up when it matters most. He and Stokes must be amongst the finest all-rounder duos to play for a team at the same time.
 
They're professionals. Even though I support Man Utd and had a chance to play for Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City etc. I would most definitely take it. Same goes for supporting Pakistan and playing for England. Just because you support one team doesn't mean you can't play another, and that's exactly what Moeen represents.

A great lad and an inspiration.

Even though I support Aston Villa, if I got an offer from Birmingham City.....I would FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET ! WOOOO! [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

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Seriously though, I use to be mates with Atiq Javid and while he always supported Pakistan it was his dream to represent Warwickshire (he would eventually) and many other fellow Brit Pakistan's were the same, the long term goal was England but unfortunately as Mo once pointed out in an interview, he got a little of support from his family while many do not and life just takes over. But there's a lot of talent and ECB have begun an initiative to scout talent from ethnic minorities and Mo would have been a big reason behind that as well, so with ECB making more of an effort and Mo doing well as the embodiment of a British Citizen and role model / ambassador it ought to inspire many youngsters.

I think for many folk in this thread the point Hussain is making has gone over their heads, Mo's significance goes beyond the cricket field (which they overly focusing on anyhow he's not doing so bad at the moment) more then any other representative of the England side in a long long time.
 
Even though I support Aston Villa, if I got an offer from Birmingham City.....I would FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET ! WOOOO! [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

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:))

Seriously though, I use to be mates with Atiq Javid and while he always supported Pakistan it was his dream to represent Warwickshire (he would eventually) and many other fellow Brit Pakistan's were the same, the long term goal was England but unfortunately as Mo once pointed out in an interview, he got a little of support from his family while many do not and life just takes over. But there's a lot of talent and ECB have begun an initiative to scout talent from ethnic minorities and Mo would have been a big reason behind that as well, so with ECB making more of an effort and Mo doing well as the embodiment of a British Citizen and role model / ambassador it ought to inspire many youngsters.

I think for many folk in this thread the point Hussain is making has gone over their heads, Mo's significance goes beyond the cricket field (which they overly focusing on anyhow he's not doing so bad at the moment) more then any other representative of the England side in a long long time.

Your last paragraph summed it up perfectly.

And LOL well you get the gist of my point - I think regardless of who you support, professionalism takes over and that's paramount. Supporting Pakistan doesn't pay the bills but playing for England does. And he's encouraged more than enough young players to be like him and who wouldn't?!
 
People also forget that sport is not war, it's okay to support Pakistan as a British Citizen. Anyhow, Moeen will certainly bring more asian origin fans to the stadiums to support England during non-Pakistan games for sure; also for most British Pakistani's, England is their second favourite team as well and you'd have seen a lot of us even on PP follow the county circuit closely and are in touch with English cricket.
 
Your last paragraph summed it up perfectly.

And LOL well you get the gist of my point - I think regardless of who you support, professionalism takes over and that's paramount. Supporting Pakistan doesn't pay the bills but playing for England does. And he's encouraged more than enough young players to be like him and who wouldn't?!

Very well said mate totally agree, Moeen is a very popular guy in the dressing room and England are going to support him through all the ups and downs; he is also incredibly important beyond the field as well and his selection in itself elevates the grass root game in the long run. Khan won the Olympic Silver in 2004 and in 2016 two British Pakistani's qualified for the Rio Olympics! Qais Ashfaq and Muhammad Ali.

Also there are loads of British Pakistani's who are involved with regards to the county scene as well although my club Warwickshire needs to do a bit a better to to develop them further but with Mo's success, am sure parents will also be more supportive of their kids and be more open to taking cricket as a serious career so win win on so many levels!
 
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[MENTION=140417]idrizzy[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] The response to "who do you support between Pakistan and England" was brilliant :))) this never gets old:


I know a lot of people complained about the show but am disappointed it was cancelled lol
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] Taaj is both associated with Bradford and Sheffield just like you :))
 
Really nice to read. Im more optomistic than Nas, I feel there will be many English cricketers from the Asian background in years to come. Im not sure why anyone would want to play for Pakistan over England if they have lived all their lives in the UK.

Moeen has worked extremley hard to get to where he is now and is an excellent role model(in sports terms).

I cant wait to see how he does in the away Ashes tour this winter.
 
People also forget that sport is not war, it's okay to support Pakistan as a British Citizen. Anyhow, Moeen will certainly bring more asian origin fans to the stadiums to support England during non-Pakistan games for sure; also for most British Pakistani's, England is their second favourite team as well and you'd have seen a lot of us even on PP follow the county circuit closely and are in touch with English cricket.


Are you thinking of going to the first day night test at Edgbaston at all?
 
Are you thinking of going to the first day night test at Edgbaston at all?

I was but will unfortunately be busy :( is there anything booked for September at Edgbaston? I might be able to attend a game then
 
I was but will unfortunately be busy :( is there anything booked for September at Edgbaston? I might be able to attend a game then

Ill post some pictures of Edgbaston under lights. I dont think there is as Edgaston hosted CT matches.
 
same M. Ali who was hammered in India?
Significant player for England? Perhaps..
Significant player in World? Not even close.

Hussain is just hyping up English player(s) to the moon like they have been doing for ages.

There is more than just the title.
 
While the article is sentimental and reads well when you get to the bottom of it the reality is this is just another way for English media to overhype their players. "One of the most significant cricketers of this generation" lmao
 
While the article is sentimental and reads well when you get to the bottom of it the reality is this is just another way for English media to overhype their players. "One of the most significant cricketers of this generation" lmao

If you ignore the rest of the sentence, i.e. "because of that faith and because of his crucial status as a role model for British Asians" then yes, perhaps.
 
But, but, but... sport and religion shouldn't mix.

Moeen is definitely one of the most significant cricketers of this generation, from a cultural perspective. He's an icon for British Muslims and British Asians and a great role-model for any kid. Pretty decent with bat and ball too.

He's succeeded where someone like a Bopara or Panesar failed.
 
He was talking from an English cricket perspective. Moeen is definitely a massive inspiration for a lot of British Asians. A proper role model.

Those saying that it won't change who British Asians support - I don't think that's the point. Those talented enough from the community to play at the highest level can definitely use the example of Moeen and be inspired by him to get there. It's naive to think that just because someone may support Pakistan or Indian cricket teams as fans will not avail the opportunity to play cricket at the highest level for England if they had the talent and ability to do so.


Yes he's an inspiration for British Asians.
 
Dont think there is anything wrong with British Pakistanis supporting Pakistan. You support a team because your family supports them - do all of Man U's supporters live in Manchester? Nope... it is because their fathers supported Man U most of the time.

English people should accept that if they want to make use of their globalized talent pool then you don't need to make them all like you. M.Ali probably grew up supporting PAKISTAN.

If a player gets the opportunities and doesn't get biased treatment by the English because he supports Pakistan, or is muslim, then they won't slip through the cracks. Sadly, for every M.Ali there are hundreds of people who don't get that in British cricket. That is not really the cricketer's fault, it is the system's for being prejudiced against cricketers from different backgrounds. I would write in more detail, there is plenty to take issue with in Nasser's article, but can't be bothered to write a whole article here...
 
A great article from Hussain.

I fully agree with him. Moeen is 100% ONE of the most significant cricketers of THIS generation.

First of all - when considering this seemingly overhyped statement - it is NOT about th best cricketer of his generation. The statement is related purely to the impact of Moeen. Then you have to consider what exactly this means :

1. He is the FIRST British Asian to be recognized universally as a crucial member of the England Team. There has been a long list of Asian players who have tried but failed. Moeen is one of the undisputed stars of the England team. A hugely significant step.

2. Secondly, he is a practicing muslim with the symbolic beard. In a time of huge anti-islamic attitudes in Europe, he is a symbol of someone who has overcome these adversities and gained huge respect from his team and the England supporters. Very significant.

3. Thirdly and perhaps the main point Hussain was alluding to - British Asians will definitely be inspired to play for England. He is a role model in this sense.
 
Hard to rate an English player fully until he has played an Ashes series in Australia and vice versa for Australians.

But in terms of off field impact Moeen Ali is a credit to the sport and his country.
 
I think you've missed the point of this article. It is not just about cricket, but the wider picture of Muslims living in England.
 
Lot of Asian background players have struggled in the England set up. Maybe it was a culture issue or they were simply not good enough but the list is endless. Aftab Habib Usman Afzal Kabir Ali Sajid Mahood Monty Panesar Ravi Bopara. There are suggestions Adil Rahid was dropped from the test squad because of his attitude. Moeen may not be the most talented but you can definitely tell he has the respect and admiration from all his team mates. It must be difficult especially in away series when you can't join in all the drinking banter but nothing seems to faze him.
 
Moeen had a remarkable series. He's also turning out to be a very valuable all-rounder for England but he hasn't done even remotely enough to be hailed as a significant player of this generation. He has the potential.

But maybe just maybe, win a few more series with all-round contribution especially in conditions England struggle in usually (UAE, India, SL) then maybe Nasser, your point might hold some weight. For now lets just cut down on the hyperbole a bit, shall we?
 
Moeen had a remarkable series. He's also turning out to be a very valuable all-rounder for England but he hasn't done even remotely enough to be hailed as a significant player of this generation. He has the potential.

But maybe just maybe, win a few more series with all-round contribution especially in conditions England struggle in usually (UAE, India, SL) then maybe Nasser, your point might hold some weight. For now lets just cut down on the hyperbole a bit, shall we?


You are looking at this from a cricketing angle only. I agree that purely as a cricketer, there may be an element of hype.

Moeen's significance is based on other reasons. The first Asian cricketer to be truly recognised. The fact that he is a muslim at a time of anti-muslim propaganda in the UK. The impact of him becoming a role model for young Asians.

Ignore the cricketing side. Maybe Pakistanis living in the UK will more likely understand my points.
 
Clearly Naz means culturally significant for England, given the current political, social and terror issues England is grappling with (and the rest of the world too). The focus of the article is really on acceptance, inclusion/excluson, belonging and the role of nationality and religion and race within that. It is not a 100% cricket argument, get some perspective!

Too rare that cricket writers acknowledge and tackle these issues head on, beyond just a surface level approach. Roebuck used to be great at it. Good to see Nasser not sweeping anything under the rug. The more time cricket gives to such areas the better the game & society might be.
 
A great article from Hussain.

I fully agree with him. Moeen is 100% ONE of the most significant cricketers of THIS generation.

First of all - when considering this seemingly overhyped statement - it is NOT about th best cricketer of his generation. The statement is related purely to the impact of Moeen. Then you have to consider what exactly this means :

1. He is the FIRST British Asian to be recognized universally as a crucial member of the England Team. There has been a long list of Asian players who have tried but failed. Moeen is one of the undisputed stars of the England team. A hugely significant step.

2. Secondly, he is a practicing muslim with the symbolic beard. In a time of huge anti-islamic attitudes in Europe, he is a symbol of someone who has overcome these adversities and gained huge respect from his team and the England supporters. Very significant.

3. Thirdly and perhaps the main point Hussain was alluding to - British Asians will definitely be inspired to play for England. He is a role model in this sense.

You get it. It's more than just cricket. And cricket can mean more than just cricket too. "What can he know of cricket, who only cricket knows?"
 
one of the 'MOST' significant? Can't agree with that. A good AR and a contributor for his team? Most Definitely.
 
Totally utterly agree with this. Ive been following english and pakistan cricket for a long time. i'll tell you what, as long as Moeen is in the team you wont see any "P-aki" Cheats headlines from the Sun. And that in itself is a major shift in attitude.

My son has just turned 10 and plays cricket on the weekend, not for any team yet but just practice etc. He hasnt got to that mega ego/competitive stage yet but he loves seeing Moeen. (still supports those damned Aussies though, dont ask me why!!). Also his academy is full to the brim of young asian cricketers who are reminded about people like Moeen and other players. These young kids now have someone they can look up to. I can now say "hey check out Moeen Ali, he's good etc etc". (after ive shown him vids of waqar younis lol)

Ultimatley though many kids will be inspired by their heritage teams e.g India and Pakistan. That Champions trophy win would have inspired so many. However I cant ever see my son playing for Pakistan (he has just realised that he has a better chance of being a cricketer than a footballer lol). I would also not want to deprive a son of Pakistan (some ghareeb kaa bacha) from his dream to put on the green.

Overall naseer is right. He grew up round about the time many of our generation did and understands the issues. Moeen has finally broken through and the ECB must use this to their advantage.

I have one fear though, and forgive me for bringing this up. Because he is a Muslim I'm not sure British Hindu cricket fans see him as a role model.
 
It's mind-boggling how people continue to miss the point when numerous posts have been made clarifying what Nas meant.
 
No he's not.

one of the 'MOST' significant? Can't agree with that. A good AR and a contributor for his team? Most Definitely.

Moeen had a remarkable series. He's also turning out to be a very valuable all-rounder for England but he hasn't done even remotely enough to be hailed as a significant player of this generation. He has the potential.

But maybe just maybe, win a few more series with all-round contribution especially in conditions England struggle in usually (UAE, India, SL) then maybe Nasser, your point might hold some weight. For now lets just cut down on the hyperbole a bit, shall we?

While the article is sentimental and reads well when you get to the bottom of it the reality is this is just another way for English media to overhype their players. "One of the most significant cricketers of this generation" lmao
Are you guys incapable of reading ?
Moeen Ali is now one of the most significant cricketers of this generation because of that faith and because of his crucial status as a role model for British Asians.
 
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I like this thread because it also highlights the number of posters who are incredibly ignorant and can't read, it's also lovely to know that I don't agree with their views when it comes to cricket in general
 
great article moeen is on his way to becoming the greatest English cricketer of Asian descent.

And he himself seems a very laid back chilled out guy. And his success is an example not just to Brit Paks but to other Brits too. Mo's dedication to doing well for England will help dispell ideas that someone with moeens appearance cant also be someone who is proud to be british as well.
 
same M. Ali who was hammered in India?
Significant player for England? Perhaps..
Significant player in World? Not even close.

Hussain is just hyping up English player(s) to the moon like they have been doing for ages.

The same Ali who dropped two tons in India.
 
Very encouraging to see so many posters too thick to understand what this thread is all about. For the last time:

He is one of the most significant cricketers of this generation for what he represents and his cultural importance.
 
I like this thread because it also highlights the number of posters who are incredibly ignorant and can't read, it's also lovely to know that I don't agree with their views when it comes to cricket in general

:)) people love reading the headlines and jumping to conclusions. Can't take them seriously.
 
moeen is a class player but english are masters of overhyping

a couple of good series does not make moeen one of the best players of this era

what next? after a few more series they will start comparing him to sobers :))
 
moeen is a class player but english are masters of overhyping

a couple of good series does not make moeen one of the best players of this era

what next? after a few more series they will start comparing him to sobers :))

I presume you're the latest one who is assuming things based on the title. :broad

No one said Moeen is one of the best players of this era.
 
moeen is a class player but english are masters of overhyping

a couple of good series does not make moeen one of the best players of this era

what next? after a few more series they will start comparing him to sobers :))

And another one.:trump2
 
I presume you're the latest one who is assuming things based on the title. :broad

No one said Moeen is one of the best players of this era.

maybe you should not give a misleading title next time :)

not everyone has the time to read the full interview
 
maybe you should not give a misleading title next time :)

not everyone has the time to read the full interview

Not misleading, just incomplete perhaps. There's a character limit for titles. ;-)

It's not misleading in the slightest.

It's not Abdullah bhai's fault if you can't be bothered to read the OP before commenting. :)
 
It's not misleading in the slightest.

It's not Abdullah bhai's fault if you can't be bothered to read the OP before commenting. :)

it is misleading because he did not imply that nasir hussain was talking about him being a role model for british asians

the title "Moeen Ali is now one of the most significant cricketers of this generation" suggests that nasir is talking about him as a cricketer AND NOT as a role model for young people

so it is a misleading title :)
 
maybe you should not give a misleading title next time :)

not everyone has the time to read the full interview

it is misleading because he did not imply that nasir hussain was talking about him being a role model for british asians

the title "Moeen Ali is now one of the most significant cricketers of this generation" suggests that nasir is talking about him as a cricketer AND NOT as a role model for young people

so it is a misleading title :)

Next time [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] bhai will copy the whole article into the title to avoid any confusion!

Rather than blaming admin, admit your mistake and move on. At the end of the day if posters don't have the time to read the OP they shouldn't (have the time to) comment.
 
I didnt know that Nasser's father was from Chennai. I didnt know anything about his background at all.

Moeen Ali culturally has reversed a lot of stereotypes about the english team and moving forward I think more asian players will go onto play for England, it shows its about talent and nothing else. I feel proud for Moeen Ali, he comes across as so unnasuming and thats why I like him.
 
it is misleading because he did not imply that nasir hussain was talking about him being a role model for british asians

the title "Moeen Ali is now one of the most significant cricketers of this generation" suggests that nasir is talking about him as a cricketer AND NOT as a role model for young people

so it is a misleading title :)

The time you spent constructing these argumentative posts could have been spent skimmimg the article. It is quite silly to comment on something you haven't read.

and yet couldn't prevent 4-0 drubbing...

Pretty sure you'll understand, given your greatest player couldn't prevent India from being a minnow for the better part of a decade.
 
I have one fear though, and forgive me for bringing this up. Because he is a Muslim I'm not sure British Hindu cricket fans see him as a role model.

British Hindus thankfully don't look at the game through the sphere of religion. Otherwise they would be fawning over pointless bits and pieces hacks like Ravi Bopara or Samit Patel or Vikram Solanki.
 
British Hindus thankfully don't look at the game through the sphere of religion. Otherwise they would be fawning over pointless bits and pieces hacks like Ravi Bopara or Samit Patel or Vikram Solanki.

They would, unfortunately Moeen Ali on crutches is a better player than any of those failures.
 
They would, unfortunately Moeen Ali on crutches is a better player than any of those failures.

Good point lol people are moronic to pin point everything on religion all the time, Moeen is a working class hero from a deprived inner city who worked hard, never gave up and got himself in a position where he was selected for England. Yes he also happens to be a Muslim and is of Asian origin but that does not mean his fan base is limited to those categories because Mo is seen as a big inspiration and role model, he's a top bloke on and off the field and there are Englishman, Asians, Muslim and Non-Muslims who look up to him.

So this sphere of religion nonsense is highly ignorant. Moeen Ali is the embodiment of a British Citizen in the modern era and one of the most important people in the country in times like this when it's all up in the air. So foreigners from THAT country can keep their petty quibbles and insecurities to themselves, these guys never surprise me; they were recently angry that american fans were booing their national anthem on a scripted TV Show Smackdown :))) [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]
 
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British Hindus thankfully don't look at the game through the sphere of religion. Otherwise they would be fawning over pointless bits and pieces hacks like Ravi Bopara or Samit Patel or Vikram Solanki.

lol thats what you think..i know plenty who do.
 
Good point lol people are moronic to pin point everything on religion all the time, Moeen is a working class hero from a deprived inner city who worked hard, never gave up and got himself in a position where he was selected for England. Yes he also happens to be a Muslim and is of Asian origin but that does not mean his fan base is limited to those categories because Mo is seen as a big inspiration and role model, he's a top bloke on and off the field and there are Englishman, Asians, Muslim and Non-Muslims who look up to him.

So this sphere of religion nonsense is highly ignorant. Moeen Ali is the embodiment of a British Citizen in the modern era and one of the most important people in the country in times like this when it's all up in the air. So foreigners from THAT country can keep their petty quibbles and insecurities to themselves, these guys never surprise me; they were recently angry that american fans were booing their national anthem on a scripted TV Show Smackdown :))) [MENTION=136193]Adil_94[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]

Like I said, when you think of the English cricket team, Moeen Ali is one of the first players to come to mind. He's an English hero, not just a Muslim/Pakistani one.

The same hasn't been true for any Asian-origin English player before him. They were always on the fringes and had few supporters outside their ethnic communities.
 
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