"I would rather lose this team while standing on my feet than run it from my knees": Ali Tareen

[TeymurBlake]

Regardless with the faults of PCB & its incompetent running, the last thing they accept is their dirty laundry out in public, in particular when the PCB themselves are painted as the villains. They view themselves as mavericks that think, whatever they do, it is perfect & practical.

Ali Tareen has burned his bridges & PCB have no desire to rebuild a partnership.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Multan pay 6+ millions pr. year and Quetta pay like 1 million annually. Does not make sense. I believe they share revenues/profits from tv rights and other income equally.

 

[Major]

Multan pay 6+ millions pr. year and Quetta pay like 1 million annually. Does not make sense. I believe they share revenues/profits from tv rights and other income equally.

Teams sold in the first PSL, they get buyers advantage of less revaluation i assume.

Or, another factor is Quetta has a smaller fan base, no hosting in their city, compared to Multan

 

[Rana]

Multan pay 6+ millions pr. year and Quetta pay like 1 million annually. Does not make sense. I believe they share revenues/profits from tv rights and other income equally.

Well,

They knew what they were getting themselves into.

No one pointed a gun to their head and made them agree to that financial model.

 

[hassan918]

Multan pay 6+ millions pr. year and Quetta pay like 1 million annually. Does not make sense. I believe they share revenues/profits from tv rights and other income equally.

Quetta has been part of the PSL since its beginning. I wonder if this is the reason. What about the other 4 franchises?

 

[Rana]

Quetta has been part of the PSL since its beginning. I wonder if this is the reason. What about the other 4 franchises?

the first 5 had their agreements made in PSL 1

Multan got their franchise in PSL at the then valued price after the growth of the PSL. They knew exactly what the deal was. They were not conned into buying it.

 

[Major]

If Multan gets sold, it would be the third time its ownership will change hands.

 

[topspin]

@topspin @shaz619 this guy is too fruity

On one hand he insists on raising the PSL’s global image to world standards…whilst on the other hand he wants to resolve issues with a cup of tea and biscuits in his office?

I don’t get it. Why is this bloke so mediocre?

Just goes to show money can't buy class. Not all freshies are like this but Tareen is giving classic fruity freshie vibes.

 

[Savak]

If Ali Tareens late uncle Alamgir Tareen was alive, he would have handled any issues with the PCB ten times more professionally

 

[hassan918]

Ali Tareen says good bye to PSL in his latest tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1993320446276538461

 

[Rana]

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out

 

[Rana]

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Commiserations

 

[Major]

Nothing to celebrate. This is actually really sad.

Alot of cricket projects were being ran in South Punjab cause of these guys, and they were heavily involved in female empowerment. Only someone who is ignorant or a petty hater of Rizwan would celebrate this.

 

[basitmian]

May be the mics will work at the auction now.

I have a feeling he will open and show the books and his losses to all soon.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I must say I am surprised

Comment: Will three PSL teams be sold? | The Express Tribune

Most franchises are staying put, the problem lies with Multan Sultan

tribune.com.pk

Much like this article writer, I expected a handshake would be made.

Tareen really burned his bridges.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Nothing to celebrate. This is actually really sad.

Alot of cricket projects were being ran in South Punjab cause of these guys, and they were heavily involved in female empowerment. Only someone who is ignorant or a petty hater of Rizwan would celebrate this.

He did good initially.

But the way he criticised the league was not on. It seemed like he was publically trying to get the value down. No owner could tolerate this.

I agree it's sad overall coz he could have been good, but he let his ego get too big and started tweeting around league structure like he was a businessman and around player talent ID like he was the Pep of cricket. In reality he was neither and should have realised this sooner.

 

[Rana]

Nothing to celebrate. This is actually really sad.

Alot of cricket projects were being ran in South Punjab cause of these guys, and they were heavily involved in female empowerment. Only someone who is ignorant or a petty hater of Rizwan would celebrate this.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Ali Tareen says good bye to PSL in his latest tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1993320446276538461

I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea, and I’m okay with that. But I have always been honest and I have always spoken my mind. I never learned how to play it safe or just play along. That simply isn’t who I am. And if staying means compromising those principles there is only one choice I can make.

Man's a nepo baby millionaire born with silver spoon and made money through his families business dealings. His life s the very definition of playing it safe and playing along but he is crying like he raised himself from the slums .

 

[Rana]

May be the mics will work at the auction now.

I have a feeling he will open and show the books and his losses to all soon.

Bohot afsos hua…

 

[Savak]

It showed that the other 5 PSL franchise owners were united with the PCB and had encouraged them to take action against Multan Sultans. Even Ali Tareen's daddy Jahangir Tareen couldn't use his connections to save him.

 

[Rana]

@Major whats going to happen now? Ali Tareen will take legal action and cause the PSL to be halted?

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

It showed that the other 5 PSL franchise owners were united with the PCB and had encouraged them to take action against Multan Sultans. Even Ali Tareen's daddy Jahangir Tareen couldn't use his connections to save him.

I believe it’s a net negative to lose Ali Tareen.

I appreciate how his recent outspoken demeanour eventually got tiring, but he did bring many positives to the league:

1) Local players being coached by a world class coach like Andy Flower

2) Getting big players like David Miller, Tim David, Kieron Pollard etc to raise the profile of the league

3) Developing local Pakistani talent well. Abbas Afridi is a Multan product and Ihsanullah could have been very useful at international level before the PCB mismanaged his health.

4) Along with ISLU, ushered in the importance of data to the Pakistan cricket scene

5) Gave serious chances to women coaches

6) Invested a lot in the South Punjab cricket scene outside the spotlight

Ultimately the usual suspects on here will tar him completely based on his association w/ Rizwan, but he was a net positive owner.

Also, be careful what you wish for, because the new owners of Multan Sultans are not a guarenteed success. The grass isn’t greener on the other side.

 

[Rana]

1) Local players being coached by a world class coach like Andy Flower

2) Getting big players like David Miller, Tim David, Kieron Pollard etc to raise the profile of the league

What a load of malarkey!

So it was Ali Tareen who brought Flower to Multan? And it was Ali Tareen who brought Miller, David and Pollard to PSL??

 

[Rana]

4) Along with ISLU, ushered in the importance of data to the Pakistan cricket scene

What data was he following with his ATROCIOUS signings in last year’s PSL draft? Was it called Rizwan’s chawwal ideas?

 

[hassan918]

I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea, and I’m okay with that. But I have always been honest and I have always spoken my mind. I never learned how to play it safe or just play along. That simply isn’t who I am. And if staying means compromising those principles there is only one choice I can make.

Man's a nepo baby millionaire born with silver spoon and made money through his families business dealings. His life s the very definition of playing it safe and playing along but he is crying like he raised himself from the slums .

But he is not playing safely here.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Good riddance

 

[Rana]

3) Developing local Pakistani talent well. Abbas Afridi is a Multan product and Ihsanullah could have been very useful at international level before the PCB mismanaged his health.

Developed them and did what to them?? Through Abbas Afridi out because he wanted to retain his English over the hill mates Jordan and Willey??

By writing off Ihsanullah live on TV claiming he will never be a 150kmh bowler again???

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Developed them and did what to them?? Through Abbas Afridi out because he wanted to retain his English over the hill mates Jordan and Willey??

By writing off Ihsanullah live on TV claiming he will never be a 150kmh bowler again???

Developed them. And they’re better players for it. This shouldn’t be a difficult concept, even for you.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

What data was he following with his ATROCIOUS signings in last year’s PSL draft? Was it called Rizwan’s chawwal ideas?

Last year was bad, but the previous many weren’t. And the point being made here is that he’s introduced the ‘concept’ of data to the Pakistan domestic scene, which is famously insular and inward looking.

 

[Rana]

Developed them. And they’re better players for it. This shouldn’t be a difficult concept, even for you.

Ali Tareen developed Ihsanullah and Abbas Afridi? How? He sent them to a printing company to be developed??

Oh you are talking about cricketing development? How does a team owner develop a cricketer?? He’s not a coach or captain!

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

What a load of malarkey!

So it was Ali Tareen who brought Flower to Multan? And it was Ali Tareen who brought Miller, David and Pollard to PSL??

You do understand how business relationships work yes? The owner of a franchise sells his vision to talent, who then join his organisation. Given that he was paying Flower’s wages he absolutely had a hand in bringing him in.

The reason why Roussow and Tim David agreed for multiple retentions year on year was because they were happy to play in the Multan dressing room.

Again, this is not a particularly difficult concept, even for you to understand.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Ali Tareen developed Ihsanullah and Abbas Afridi? How? He sent them to a printing company to be developed??

Oh you are talking about cricketing development? How does a team owner develop a cricketer?? He’s not a coach or captain!

A team owner sets the environment in which his franchise develops young players, cricket wise. You can already contrast that with what Karachi has done in their tenure, I.e. playing domestic journeymen who were never going to be future Pakistan internationals

 

[DeadlyVenom]

But he is not playing safely here.

He is still safe, rich, and part of international elites.

 

[Rana]

You do understand how business relationships work yes? The owner of a franchise sells his vision to talent, who then join his organisation. Given that he was paying Flower’s wages he absolutely had a hand in bringing him in.

The reason why Roussow and Tim David agreed for multiple retentions year on year was because they were happy to play in the Multan dressing room.

Again, this is not a particularly difficult concept, even for you to understand.

Your claims are as if it’s Ali Tareen’s brains and vision behind Andy Flower being the head coach of Sultans in the first place. That’s incorrect. Ali Tareen was not the man behind the coup, unless you can prove otherwise.

As for overseas players, they will play anywhere as long as the retention fee suits them. It’s the Moolah that matters to them, not loyalty.

You all hate Aqib but then the same argument falls in favour of him for being able to get Rashid Khan and Sikander Raza type players to return again and again.

The actual credit goes to the PSL management who got those players in the PSL draft in the first place for these franchises to pick them. Last year the draft was filled with the strongest ever overseas player options in PSL history. Who did Ali Tareen sign as his first choice??

 

[Major]

Time for Plan B.

What is the relationship status of Jehangir Tareen with the Establishment?

Ali Tareen ko PCB Chairman banaya jai and Jay Shah per chora jai

 

[Rana]

Pcb acted like idiots as usual. They probably forgot that its easy to subdue players but not owners who have money and are educated.

If Tareen takes these idiots to court, PSL could either be delayed or the Multans franchise sale might get stalled and we may have a tournament being played with one less team.

The criticism on this thread on Ali is not really factual, just fanboyism on display....

Bro zara batana….when is Ali taking PCB to court?

 

[Ball Blazer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1993338398321656257

 

[Savak]

Ali Tareen tried to play dirty and was acting in bad faith. He was hoping his antics to reduce the value of the PSL would help him get a cheaper renewal deal.

There are reportings that the PCB is aiming to sell the new teams for $7-10 million a year, unless the owners have massive deep pockets, that price is not sustainable.

 

[RidiculousMan]

I'm hearing that almost all franchises renewed at the same or little below $ Dollar value that was purchased for in 2016.

If it is true then this is a devastating news for PSL and its future.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I believe it’s a net negative to lose Ali Tareen.

I appreciate how his recent outspoken demeanour eventually got tiring, but he did bring many positives to the league:

1) Local players being coached by a world class coach like Andy Flower

2) Getting big players like David Miller, Tim David, Kieron Pollard etc to raise the profile of the league

3) Developing local Pakistani talent well. Abbas Afridi is a Multan product and Ihsanullah could have been very useful at international level before the PCB mismanaged his health.

4) Along with ISLU, ushered in the importance of data to the Pakistan cricket scene

5) Gave serious chances to women coaches

6) Invested a lot in the South Punjab cricket scene outside the spotlight

Ultimately the usual suspects on here will tar him completely based on his association w/ Rizwan, but he was a net positive owner.

Also, be careful what you wish for, because the new owners of Multan Sultans are not a guarenteed success. The grass isn’t greener on the other side.

It is a negative.

But I blame Tareen rather than PCB. He should have continued rather than running his mouth unnecessarily.

 

[Savak]

I'm hearing that almost all franchises renewed at the same or little below $ Dollar value that was purchased for in 2016.

If it is true then this is a devastating news for PSL and its future.

To be fair, these early franchises deserve a break and they should be rewarded for their hard work, loyalty they have shown towards the PSL and the PCB at a time when the league was risky with an uncertain future, they should get a cheaper deal as they were the initial investors. People also need to remember that they purchased the teams in USD$ when the USD-PKR exchange rate was 105 in 2016, the Pakistan economy has badly tanked in the last 8-9 years and the USD-PKR exchange rate is now on average above 250-260. The Franchises and the PCB did the right thing to switch the financial model, payments in PKR which will now eliminate the exposure of the franchises to Foreign currency fluctuations.

PCB and the PSL cannot be blamed for the poor state of the Pakistani economy.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I'm hearing that almost all franchises renewed at the same or little below $ Dollar value that was purchased for in 2016.

If it is true then this is a devastating news for PSL and its future.

The reality is that cricket doesn't make money maybe only in India.

There is a reason why most T20 franchise leagues are now run by Indians. Locals cashed out, or cashed in, depends how you look at it.

I look at some of these leagues can't can't fathom how they are operating.

Pakistan is at least independent and financially legit. The valuations seem accurate.

The bubble will burst for many non Indian leagues I think. They just aren't sustainable.

 

[Savak]

PCB needs to watch out for Ali Tareen's saltiness. He hasn't dropped out willingly, the PCB made it clear to him that they were not interested in working with him anymore. He now has a free hand to diss, mock the PCB and the PSL and will likely be on a revenge spree trying to discourage future PSL investors. Mohsin Naqvi might need to consider sending out a few vigos to set him straight.

 

[Major]

PCB needs to watch out for Ali Tareen's saltiness. He hasn't dropped out willingly, the PCB made it clear to him that they were not interested in working with him anymore. He now has a free hand to diss, mock the PCB and the PSL and will likely be on a revenge spree trying to discourage future PSL investors. Mohsin Naqvi might need to consider sending out a few vigos to set him straight.

Spoken like a true burger

 

[RidiculousMan]

To be fair, these early franchises deserve a break and they should be rewarded for their hard work, loyalty they have shown towards the PSL and the PCB at a time when the league was risky with an uncertain future, they should get a cheaper deal as they were the initial investors. People also need to remember that they purchased the teams in USD$ when the USD-PKR exchange rate was 105 in 2016, the Pakistan economy has badly tanked in the last 8-9 years and the USD-PKR exchange rate is now on average above 250-260. The Franchises and the PCB did the right thing to switch the financial model, payments in PKR which will now eliminate the exposure of the franchises to Foreign currency fluctuations.

PCB and the PSL cannot be blamed for the poor state of the Pakistani economy.

Cheaper deals mean that the value of teams have remained the same. Showing a stagnant or even inverse growth of PSL. This is alarming.

 

[RidiculousMan]

PCB and the PSL cannot be blamed for the poor state of the Pakistani economy.

100%

If the country's economy is doomed. So are its products. Which has been the case with PSL.

 

[Savak]

Cheaper deals mean that the value of teams have remained the same. Showing a stagnant or even inverse growth of PSL. This is alarming.

We have to see what can the PCB get from the rebidding of the Multan Sultans Franchise and the open auction of the 7th and 8th team. The PCB is eying a value between $7-10 million from each team, which is very aggressive

 

[RidiculousMan]

We have to see what can the PCB get from the rebidding of the Multan Sultans Franchise and the open auction of the 7th and 8th team. The PCB is eying a value between $7-10 million from each team, which is very aggressive

If Karachi, Lahore are renewed at $2.5 million. How can MS go for $7-10 million? The bidding party would be insane to bid that much.

 

[Ball Blazer]

As per reports, Multan Sultans' new franchise fee is 140 crore after the valuation

 

[Savak]

As per reports, Multan Sultans' new franchise fee is 140 crore after the valuation

This works out to $4.96 million which is less than $6.35 million which Ali Tareen was paying. Given the state of the Pakistani economy at the moment, this is not surprising.

 

[RidiculousMan]

As per reports, Multan Sultans' new franchise fee is 140 crore after the valuation

How will this franchise be sold now? Will there be a bid for it?

 

[RidiculousMan]

This works out to $4.96 million which is less than $6.35 million which Ali Tareen was paying. Given the state of the Pakistani economy at the moment, this is not surprising.

The gain in Pakistani rupees is basically another side of the same coin. Known as inflation.

Does inflation signify growth?

 

[hassan918]

How will this franchise be sold now? Will there be a bid for it?

There is a lot of money involved in PSL so there will be some bidders for the franchise if required.

 

[Savak]

How will this franchise be sold now? Will there be a bid for it?

The PCB is planning to hold a full public auction for the teams. All will depend on how many interested parties bid, if there are international interested investors as well. PCB shouldn't just blindly give the teams to the highest bidders, they need to assess if they fully understand the investment involved because a future owner will not just be paying the franchise fees, he is also on the hook for the players, coaches, officials salaries, lodging and has to properly pump money into the franchise to make it a brand and all this requires deep pockets

 

[Ball Blazer]

This works out to $4.96 million which is less than $6.35 million which Ali Tareen was paying. Given the state of the Pakistani economy at the moment, this is not surprising.

After a feud, PCB will find anything acceptable to feed their ego.

 

[Major]

How will this franchise be sold now? Will there be a bid for it?

The first step is submitting the bid. All interested parties have till 15dec to submit bids. After that those bids will be opened up and checked if those people can actually qualify as and complete all the technicalities.

Once all those parties that pass the technical bid process, only those parties can participate in the auction. So 2 news teams and one old team will go up for auction

 

[Major]

If Karachi, Lahore are renewed at $2.5 million. How can MS go for $7-10 million? The bidding party would be insane to bid that much.

The initial 5 teams got the early bird discount. Because they showed faith and confidence by investing in the first psl they get a discount and enjoy better returns now.

MS came after a few years and was sold on the market price at that time. So even today for renewal they would have to be sold on the market price.

Only the 5 intial teams enjoy the advantage as they showed faith in the league when it was nothing.

 

[Savak]

After a feud, PCB will find anything acceptable to feed their ego.

My 6th sense tells me Mohsin Naqvi has already got a guarantee from a potential bidder that they will buy the Multan Sultan's rights for a greater price than what Ali Tareen was paying, it would be madness for the PCB to resell the franchise for a loss otherwise

 

[Kianig89]

Let's see who will be the 3 new owners, hopefully no dodgy names as there is alot of murky business going on in Pakistan

 

[mominsaigol]

Let's see who will be the 3 new owners, hopefully no dodgy names as there is alot of murky business going on in Pakistan

New openers?

 

[RidiculousMan]

The PCB is planning to hold a full public auction for the teams. All will depend on how many interested parties bid, if there are international interested investors as well. PCB shouldn't just blindly give the teams to the highest bidders, they need to assess if they fully understand the investment involved because a future owner will not just be paying the franchise fees, he is also on the hook for the players, coaches, officials salaries, lodging and has to properly pump money into the franchise to make it a brand and all this requires deep pockets

PCB this time around is doing KYC for potential bidders.

The initial 5 teams got the early bird discount. Because they showed faith and confidence by investing in the first psl they get a discount and enjoy better returns now.

MS came after a few years and was sold on the market price at that time. So even today for renewal they would have to be sold on the market price.

Only the 5 intial teams enjoy the advantage as they showed faith in the league when it was nothing.

I just don't see why anyone would be willing to bid that high. Specially when other teams were renewed for their same initial sell price.

 

[Major]

PCB this time around is doing KYC for potential bidders.



I just don't see why anyone would be willing to bid that high. Specially when other teams were renewed for their same initial sell price.

If there is money to be made, than teams will bid, but lets see

 

[Rana]

Let's see who will be the 3 new owners, hopefully no dodgy names as there is alot of murky business going on in Pakistan

Is Samaa TV buying a franchise?