Mohammad Amir at PSL 2017

[Mamoon]

Yes doesn't look sharp. However he does bowl a few magic balls here and there but even Rahat can do that.

You need rhythm to get your bowling going, Where to land the ball precisely to make the batsman play, basically setting up batsman.

And the excuses are running out because he has been bowling regularly for a year. More than enough to time find rhythm. Now the latest excuse is that he is tired and needs rest.

 

[Hamza_]

And the excuses are running out because he has been bowling regularly for a year. More than enough to time find rhythm. Now the latest excuse is that he is tired and needs rest.

I still feel he is a good bowler, Needs to sit back and work over flaws in his bowling to come back better.

 

[Hamza_]

Btw [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Hassan Ali has been impressive with new ball this PSL.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I told you that you were going overboard with your criticisms. First accept that Amir is no messiah, then you will begin to appreciate what you have; you're not in a position to complain unless there's someone better but constructive criticism which is objective off course is welcomed. With regards to Amir the T20 bowler, he was never someone spectacular but a guy who was very solid, even in the T20 WC in 09 he didn't have a spectacular tournament but was solid and delivered in KO games with key wickets.

 

[Mamoon]

Btw [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Hassan Ali has been impressive with new ball this PSL.

Best pacer to emerge in quite a while. Should be drafted into the Test team immediately.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] I told you that you were going overboard with your criticisms. First accept that Amir is no messiah, then you will begin to appreciate what you have; you're not in a position to complain unless there's someone better but constructive criticism which is objective off course is welcomed. With regards to Amir the T20 bowler, he was never someone spectacular but a guy who was very solid, even in the T20 WC in 09 he didn't have a spectacular tournament but was solid and delivered in KO games with key wickets.

I don't think this criticism is over the top. It is a fact that since his return, he has largely been below par and has lacked impact. The excuse that he is not in rhythm and will take time doesn't work anymore because it has been a year. The time has for him to deliver.

 

[shaz619]

I don't think this criticism is over the top. It is a fact that since his return, he has largely been below par and has lacked impact. The excuse that he is not in rhythm and will take time doesn't work anymore because it has been a year. The time has for him to deliver.

He has failed if you were expecting him to bowl at the elite level on par with someone like Starc otherwise he has been solid but not spectacular, the hype has not helped him because he ought to be overly criticised or overly hyped in the moments he doesn't live up to fan expectation and in the instances he may bowl well. Right now, he is by far the best pacer from Pakistan and the only one you can consider to be world class, not elite but world class.

 

[Mamoon]

He has failed if you were expecting him to bowl at the elite level on par with someone like Starc otherwise he has been solid but not spectacular, the hype has not helped him because he ought to be overly criticised or overly hyped in the moments he doesn't live up to fan expectation and in the instances he may bowl well. Right now, he is by far the best pacer from Pakistan and the only one you can consider to be world class, not elite but world class.

Amir would have been given a lot of leeway if he was some unknown player getting picked for the first time. However, how a player is rated is relative to their reputation and also hype. An unknown player who fails in 10 matches is acceptable, but if a proven performer fails for 5 matches he gets criticized.

Certain people hyped Amir to the moon and back. They were adamant that he is the most talented bowler of this generation, and how it is a cardinal sin to compare any other bowler to him because no one is close to his talent. Now that he is nowhere near the hype, the same people get upset when he is criticized. All that hype cannot be forgotten easily and conveniently. It is natural for the expectations to enhance. However, I am coming to terms with the reality that he is an ordinary bowler who is simply decent at best and nowhere near elite category. Once I am over the hype, I will probably stop criticizing him.

 

[Saj]

He bowled well in the last match but the reality is a bowler of his potential and quality should be putting in such performances on a more regular basis not once in a while.

 

[joly]

He has failed if you were expecting him to bowl at the elite level on par with someone like Starc otherwise he has been solid but not spectacular, the hype has not helped him because he ought to be overly criticised or overly hyped in the moments he doesn't live up to fan expectation and in the instances he may bowl well. Right now, he is by far the best pacer from Pakistan and the only one you can consider to be world class, not elite but world class.

TBH he has been performing at the level of maximum Kulasekhara

 

[Rayyman]

TBH he has been performing at the level of maximum Kulasekhara

The same Kulasekara that was nailing wide yorkers and got Yuvi out on 11(21) when SL smashed Ind. in WT20 final? Or is there another one?

 

[Indiafan]

He is been doing it.. its just the way you see it.. And T20 no one has ever been consistent.

How has he been doing it when even Sami outbowls him? Kuch bhi, just because its Amir? He is nowhere near top wickets, economy, average anything but he has been doing it of course because his name is Amir? Such claims about Amir seems more ridiculous every day

 

[todfod 11]

How has he been doing it when even Sami outbowls him? Kuch bhi, just because its Amir? He is nowhere near top wickets, economy, average anything but he has been doing it of course because his name is Amir? Such claims about Amir seems more ridiculous every day

look I m not a stats guy neither I want to.... Amir is the first one who makes into the team.. without any opposition.. so You can shout from top of the tower it doesnt matter..
For performance I m very happy with just like other experts who are reallly experts example Ian Bishop.. people can keep complaining.. karachi to win PSL 2

 

[Citizen4]

Amir is overrated at this stage

 

[dauntless]

Since the thread is made he has picked up 5 wickets this thread is his lucky charm
He is best option available in Pakistan.He is going to play for next 10 years.Even though he has not performed that well but still the only good bowler in Pakistan.
I expect him to excel at champions trophy

 

[usmanraheel]

He is the definitely the most entertaining to watch though. His action is smooth and pleasing to the eye. The flick of the wrist ( which apparently needs work on ) is still there. He is definitely fit and bowls with aggression. Hopefully, he can keep improving and add a lethal slower ball in his arsenal.

 

[Hasan123]

I think, he has bowled decently. May not be as everyone expecting, but definitely not like what I am reading here. What's happening here is the day he has a bad day, people are taking him to cleaners, but they just don't visit those threads on his good days, which is a bit double standard. Almost every pacer has gone though some beating here, but he is the only one playing non stop. Every team from PAK to KK & his FC teams is playing him non stop, which I don't understand why. His body is not tuned yet & he is struggling to play back to back to back matches.

He is a swing bowler, hence he'll struggle in UAE, but some of his balls in early spell was really good. Another surprise to me is, Amir is not the best old ball bowler - still Sanga is giving him 1 over, may be 2 at most in early spell & bringing him in last stages. May be, he is still the best available for him to bowl 2 of the last 3 overs, but I would have definitely used him for 3 overs in 1st spell within PP. This guy has to kick his luck as well - if someone like Pollard drops a dolly, what else one can do?

In T20, I think, it's extremely difficult to take maidens & dots - he has 2 maidens so far & his % of dots are also high, which indicates in rhythm, he is still a top bowler to score off; but those loose boundary balls that costing his stats. KK has some of the best cricket minds around & lots of experience - Arthur, Sanga, Mahela, Gayle, Malik, Bopara - if they are playing him every match despite his poor stats, I do believe there is a valid reason for that.

I back KK to win the title - so 3 more matches. I would like to revisit this thread once more after PSL final.

What does he need to improve on? And how will his spell with Essex help?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Superb death bowling today

 

[hadi123]

He's been awful but he's been playing non stop since the England tour he's bound to get tired. West Indies tour coming up as well, we seriously need to manage his workload

 

[MMHS]

What does he need to improve on? And how will his spell with Essex help?

He needs to improve in every aspect of fast bowling. He is just one step lower in terms of pace, swing, cut, stamina, even the bowling intelligence.

County cricket will help him to strengthen body, because there he'll play 96 overs/day FC match. Bowling long spells should help his rhythm. He'll be bowling against far better batsmen against new ball, & their bowling coach should help improving his bowling intelligence. Also, longer FC matches means he'll get more batting opportunities & that's definitely going to help his batting; he'll be a better fielder as well. Overall, a 20-25% improved cricketer in a year.

Besides, playing under a pro set up helps a player into a proper life style of a sportsman - they normally don't suffer from minor injuries.

 

[Hasan123]

He needs to improve in every aspect of fast bowling. He is just one step lower in terms of pace, swing, cut, stamina, even the bowling intelligence.

County cricket will help him to strengthen body, because there he'll play 96 overs/day FC match. Bowling long spells should help his rhythm. He'll be bowling against far better batsmen against new ball, & their bowling coach should help improving his bowling intelligence. Also, longer FC matches means he'll get more batting opportunities & that's definitely going to help his batting; he'll be a better fielder as well. Overall, a 20-25% improved cricketer in a year.

Besides, playing under a pro set up helps a player into a proper life style of a sportsman - they normally don't suffer from minor injuries.

Thanks for the response.

So once he plays international cricket after this county spell, will he be a better bowler or not? Or can't you predict that till his spell is finished?

 

[MMHS]

Thanks for the response.

So once he plays international cricket after this county spell, will he be a better bowler or not? Or can't you predict that till his spell is finished?

Should be, as I said 20-25% better cricketer over all, which includes bowling, batting, fielding, game sense, fitness.

 

[Hasan123]

Should be, as I said 20-25% better cricketer over all, which includes bowling, batting, fielding, game sense, fitness.

Yep I think he will be better after this spell. Looking forward to it now!

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Great last 2 overs by him today.

 

[Mamoon]

Good death bowling but was completely out-bowled by Sohail with the new ball. Apart from one delivery, he didn't move the ball inch while Sohail was getting very good shape.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He's almost regained his leg strength. Rhythm is good.

 

[Zohaib Shah]

An average bowler.

 

[geraltofrivia]

Sir you are trying too hard. His overall average is 33 which is alot better than any Indian pacer currently playing. Only Shami is comparable who also has an average of 33. Now should we start picking and chosing tests for Indian pacers as well?


Nobody claimed that Amir is the crown prince of bowling. He is just the best of a bad lot.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/326016.html