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Mohammad Amir is not the same bowler he was back in 2010!

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Yes! I am one of those fans who expects a 5fer every innings! anything less is unacceptable, even those who were not overly optimistic about him being back to his best (given the long lay off etc) the moment he played his first Test series deep down I bet you hoped he would display some of that magic of old.

He has bowled consistent line and length with decent pace, that's commendable and yes he has not been helped by the fielders but if we focus on his bowling alone are we watching the same bowler we did in 2010? I'd say a big fat NO.

Quiet frankly the PCB made an investment in him, fast-tracked his comeback and he has had plenty of experience getting to grips with the highest level. Rust and match fitness are no longer a problem for him so no excuses there, I understand that little can be done with regards to swing when there's not much in the wicket but he has failed to make the most of conditions when they have been helpful, now please don't tell me oh well in over number 0.3 the ball swung away or 5.4 went in or over number 7 was absolutely deadly all of these are just flashes of brilliance and nothing more.

Perhaps he is just a one trick pony and the bowler we now see is nothing more then a shadow. Amir has been humanized a bit too much.
 
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It's his pace more than the swing IMO. It's the reason he's creating more catches but not bowled/LBWs.

He was clocking 143-148 KPH in Australia (2009). He's sitting at 134-135 KPH now.

Amir will have to up his pace OR readjust his game to his new pace because he's bowling with the same mindset he had back when he was quicker.

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He has changed from being an "inswing LBW bowler" to a very fine "angle it across to get a nick to the slips bowler".

And the slips are useless catchers.

But by the same token Pakistan would not select Glenn McGrath or Josh Hazlewood, as Sami Aslam would drop every chance off them!
 
kingusama92 said:
It's his pace more than the swing IMO.

He was clocking 143-148 KPH in Australia (2009). He's sitting at 134-135 KPH now.

Amir will have to up his pace OR readjust his game to his new pace because he's bowling with the same mindset he had back when he was quicker.

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he was slower in England but still lethal because he was exploiting the conditions.
 
Suleiman said:
he was slower in England but still lethal because he was exploiting the conditions.
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Absolutely.

BUT, you could tell he had slowed down on purpose in England to extract swing. Now, he's just slow period.
 
He is done.i called it when he could not extract anything out of first test green mamba.Pre ban Amir i still believe was once in a generation bowler the current Amir after 5 yr gap is not a patch on him.
 
Fast Tracking him without any FC build up was always a bad bad idea !!! He needs to go back into domestics top the charts and then come back into the International Team. We were doing ok without him for 6 years ..... Another year which might benefit both parties in the long run shouldn't be a problem !!

On the flip side, Imran Khan, who everyone was mocking pre game is outbowling Wahab and Amir both in this game !!! :ikj FTW
 
I agree with Usama his bowling style will not cut it with him current pact he either goes back to be being a 145 plus bowler or just call it a day
 
No wonder likes of junaid khan are.crying , if it wasn't for his knees junaid has been unfairly treated some off his spells against Sri Lanka on flat tracks are better than whatever amir produced

And why likes of rahat and yasir are sitting out for duds like amir and Wahab is beyond me
 
Disheartening to say but we have options for green tracks much better than M.Amir and Riaz.
Mir Humza , Shahzad Azam , Sadaf Hussain are serial GTBs.
 
So what exactly was he before? Apart from the amazing English season he had, he averaged 40 in Australia and 43.5 in Sri Lanka even before his ban.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Pakistan needs to get rid of the virus called 'Sami Aslam' he dropped four of Amir's catches in one match, the guy should go back to Pakistan and sell tea, not international standard. We need to blame the fielders instead of a guy who creates chances after every 4 overs :amir
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Sami Aslam needs to be kicked out. He is turning out to be one of the worst opener in our cricket history. He plays like no.11, waste too much ball and score almost nothing. What is the point of doing tuk tuk if there is not enough runs. His fielding is absolutely rubbish I guess even worse than Rahat or Irfan.

On topic, Amir is finished as he will never catch up that 5 years in his life he lost during ban. As a great fan of Amir I have no hope for him
 
So far in his career, Amir has been a failure outside that one amazing English tour. Yes he has potential, but we can also not deny that 90% of his career has been a major disappointment. So this was expected.
 
Indiafan said:
So what exactly was he before? Apart from the amazing English season he had, he averaged 40 in Australia and 43.5 in Sri Lanka even before his ban.
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Only his last test was poor against NZ. Averaged 29 in the first two before getting carted in the last.

SL series was his debut tour and he was exceptional in Galle. 6/112.

English Summer was 6 tests of success. 2 vs. AUS and 4 vs. ENG.

In essence, he did well in 9 tests out of 14 before the ban. I'm not sure how you can say he wasn't good before considering this was done at the age of 17-19.
 
kingusama92 said:
Only his last test was poor against NZ. Averaged 29 in the first two before getting carted in the last.

SL series was his debut tour and he was exceptional in Galle. 6/112.

English Summer was 6 tests of success. 2 vs. AUS and 4 vs. ENG.

In essence, he did well in 9 tests out of 14 before the ban. I'm not sure how you can say he wasn't good before considering this was done at the age of 17-19.
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Because he is not Indian
 
Really really sorry for Amir!!!! What a promise he had and how sadly is ending
 
he needs to be benched for the first test vs Australia

Sohail,Imran,Wahab and Yasir will be my attack and Rahat will be my first choice back up seamer
 
kingusama92 said:
Only his last test was poor against NZ. Averaged 29 in the first two before getting carted in the last.

SL series was his debut tour and he was exceptional in Galle. 6/112.

English Summer was 6 tests of success. 2 vs. AUS and 4 vs. ENG.

In essence, he did well in 9 tests out of 14 before the ban. I'm not sure how you can say he wasn't good before considering this was done at the age of 17-19.
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How is averaging 29 on helpful NA wickets good? Isn't that true for every bowler/batsman? They do good in some matches, fail in others. In the end overall averages are considered

And the point is English summer was some of the most swing conducive wickets in England's history. He made merry on them no doubt but you are very rarely going to get those kind of wickets again as the last English tour by Pakistan showed. Heck bowlers like RP Singh have looked unplayable on swinging English wicket in the England series India won

Yes, people clearly saw the potential there and praised him rightly. But even then it was mostly potential for most part.
 
Indiafan said:
So what exactly was he before? Apart from the amazing English season he had, he averaged 40 in Australia and 43.5 in Sri Lanka even before his ban.
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You knew watching him bowl back then that it was only a matter of time before he gets it all together and will go big which he did in England much like Rabada who was averaging 50-+ after first 5-6 tests you knew he will get a it together sooner but with current Amir you never get this feeling and just know his current output is his celing unfortunately.
 
He hasn't gotten his wickets with just swing though...

He is a smart bowler and still very young. Time will prove the doubters and wrist slitters on this thread wrong

He has been a work horse for this team with 10-15 catches dropped. Yes he hasn't run through a side but people forget 5 years he played no cricket.
 
But for some ppers he is and will always remain 'ATG' and much better than starc,Hazelwood,mustafiz,rabada,boult,broad,Anderson,stokes,steyn,wasim combined with some imaginary (could be,would be bla bla blah) stats and NO ONE SHOULD ARGUE ON THAT.
 
Nil Dhumrojal said:
But for some ppers he is and will always remain 'ATG' and much better than starc,Hazelwood,mustafiz,rabada,boult,broad,Anderson,stokes,steyn,wasim combined with some imaginary (could be,would be bla bla blah) stats and NO ONE SHOULD ARGUE ON THAT.
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the most hilarious part of this post is including Mustafziur along with those names.
 
In Sport after any comeback it's very rare to be the same again. Yes, prior to the ban he was really good however we built him up as being the next Waseem Akram. His first phase did not last long enough for any proper analysis to be given. I think we all got a bit carried away at the time. He is just average now, our whole bowling unit is that.
 
Indiafan said:
How is averaging 29 on helpful NA wickets good? Isn't that true for every bowler/batsman? They do good in some matches, fail in others. In the end overall averages are considered

And the point is English summer was some of the most swing conducive wickets in England's history. He made merry on them no doubt but you are very rarely going to get those kind of wickets again as the last English tour by Pakistan showed. Heck bowlers like RP Singh have looked unplayable on swinging English wicket in the England series India won

Yes, people clearly saw the potential there and praised him rightly. But even then it was mostly potential for most part.
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Napier was flat. Wellington was flat. Dunedin started flat and deteriorated into a bowler-friendly wicket.

English summer, I agree especially the AUS tests early on. Those had banana swing all over the place. It was impressive because of how much he exploited it and at the age he did it.

I agree people pushed Amir to unreasonable heights (i.e. Wasim-like) based on the ENG summer. However, this shouldn't be confused with him being poor in those first 14 tests.

He was terrific at that age. He was quicker and swinging it more in all conditions not just in England.
 
Nil Dhumrojal said:
But for some ppers he is and will always remain 'ATG' and much better than starc,Hazelwood,mustafiz,rabada,boult,broad,Anderson,stokes,steyn,wasim combined with some imaginary (could be,would be bla bla blah) stats and NO ONE SHOULD ARGUE ON THAT.
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Pretty Savage of You to add that bloke among those bowlers.....

The fact is that Mustafiz will always remain someone who is from BANGLADESH and people will never take him that seriously !! EVER !!

Please live with that for the rest of your days...Thank You
 
Nil Dhumrojal said:
hahaha... Poor fans of 'ATG' Amir.
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Amir is just ordinary.

But lumping Mustafiz with the name of bolwers like Starc, Hazelwood, Rabada, Anderson and Broad is just foolish. He might better them or he might not. At the moment, he is just a good thinking bowler. Nowhere near the level of Starc, Steyn, Anderson, Broad or for that matter Hazelwood.

If you lump him with those bowlers, be prepared to be ridiculed.
 
We talk our players up to early. Amir was going to be the next Waseem Akram, Asif the new Glenn McGrath and Umar Akmal Pakistan's version of Sachin Tendulkar. One way or another all have greatly disappointed us.
 
PakLFC said:
We talk our players up to early. Amir was going to be the next Waseem Akram, Asif the new Glenn McGrath and Umar Akmal Pakistan's version of Sachin Tendulkar. One way or another all have greatly disappointed us.
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Maybe if you didn't force them to be something they are not and worked on their natural talent. They could have been Pakistan's Amir, Umar Akmal and Mohd Asif

An India ex selector gave an interview few days ago that in previous era because the setup wasn't great we threw young players with raw talent into the deep end and see if they work out but thats not how it works now. Now India have a system in place, you need to score heavily in domestic, graduate to A team and if you do well there, you are in the mix of national side.

It seems great to see a 19 yo come in blow away the stumps but then they are too young to handle failure or tackle other issues. International cricket has changed and Pakistan need to cope up with it. They can't just rely on talent hunts to find their next best.
 
Nil Dhumrojal said:
But for some ppers he is and will always remain 'ATG' and much better than starc,Hazelwood,mustafiz,rabada,boult,broad,Anderson,stokes,steyn,wasim combined with some imaginary (could be,would be bla bla blah) stats and NO ONE SHOULD ARGUE ON THAT.
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Mustafiz is already in ATG and same level in Wasim, Anderson and Steyn???
 
Watching those highlights its clear that he is 10kph down in pace, he should be faster at 25 than he was at 18.
That extra pace is crucial in Test cricket as batsmen find it hard to come on the front foot, as now he is only medium pace so the batsmen camp on the front foot.
Very sad, he once had the aura of a Shoab Aktar as a bowler who could crank up his pace and get 3-4 wickets in a spell.
Sadly he needs to be dropped from the Test squad because the stats dont lie he is only medium pace with no movement and you cant say its the conditions as Southee, Boult and De gron home have moved the ball.
He is only a ODI bowler now, even his die had supporters must admit this.
 
Shafi said:
Because he is not Indian
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Yeah, blame everything on me being Indian. Try to understand that the "prince" of fast bowling averaging 40+ in a series is a pattern that keeps repeating itself and it has nothing to do with my nationality.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Maybe if you didn't force them to be something they are not and worked on their natural talent. They could have been Pakistan's Amir, Umar Akmal and Mohd Asif

An India ex selector gave an interview few days ago that in previous era because the setup wasn't great we threw young players with raw talent into the deep end and see if they work out but thats not how it works now. Now India have a system in place, you need to score heavily in domestic, graduate to A team and if you do well there, you are in the mix of national side.

It seems great to see a 19 yo come in blow away the stumps but then they are too young to handle failure or tackle other issues. International cricket has changed and Pakistan need to cope up with it. They can't just rely on talent hunts to find their next best.
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That's the whole point, by convincing ourselves that they are going to be great us fan's feel so let down when they likes of Amir and Ukmal fail us. The domestic system needs to be dismantled and then rebuilt by a cricketing brain not an army officer. Many players are in the team due to their political connections. We do still have the 60's and 70's mentality when it comes to team development and fitness, the rest off the world has left us well behind. That the players were training with the military prior to the England tour speaks volumes. After a few decent innings or a good bowling performance we are on about how great an average player is. Many Pak batsmen do score heavily in domestic Cricket but are not chosen for international duty due to political reasons, can't perform under pressure due to alien conditions that they're not used to or lack of pressure Cricket in domestic competitions where they're playing in a team of plumbers, banks or electricians. It's stupid!. Living on past glories is not the answer. India has done brilliantly in swiftly moving on after their great players retired, including Tendulkar. We still go on about the next Akram Imran Khan and Waqar Younis etc. This is why they continue to find players who are currently productive. Don't think we have any domestic competition that is even close to something like the Ranji trophy.
 
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Forget the amir of 2010, is he even good enough to keep his place in the test team. He has played 8 test matches without one significant performance. Only imran farhat used to get chances like that.
 
It's really useless to argue with fans of 'ATG' afridi,akmal and amir. Overhype is only one that counts here which bring shame for the real ATG like wasim and others as the level of ATG is very low now. Sorry guru wasim vai.
 
If his catches wouldn't have been dropped, he would be averaging 5.xx :livid:

Regards,

Amir fans
 
Amir didn't bowl poorly in NZ by any means. 2 tests , 7 wickets , avg 28.57
 
jeetu said:
Amir didn't bowl poorly in NZ by any means. 2 tests , 7 wickets , avg 28.57
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These are wickets where bowlers are taking 5-fer for fun. In context, every NZ bowler has outbowled him comfortably. Rahat and Imran have much better average than him and Azhar Ali averages 29 in the same matches.
 
Amir does not bowl poorly issue is he never has any impact on the game i would take a 35 average from him as long as he can have atleast match winning spell atleast once in a series most of the time he is 2-3 fr 80 odd.
 
All bowlers since Amir's comeback

M W Avg. S/R
Amir 8 25 37.6 74
Sohail 6 23 32.56 56.5
Wahab 6 22 32.54 55.9
Rahat 5 16 37.93 64.4
Yasir 8 40 34.97 66.6


Agreed that his figures aren't upto the mark but relatively the whole bowling unit havent been upto the mark. We have constantly targeted Amir just coz our own expectations were skewed in the 1st place. Yes, he should have avgd less, but who else is performing incredibly well. Now there have been 12 catches dropped off his bowling, considering at least 8 off those 12 had been taken (2/3), his avg. would have dropped to 28 which would have been considerably better than the rest. So yes he have been out of touch, but he is actually worth investing in as he is the youngest of the lot and has the most potential too.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Fast Tracking him without any FC build up was always a bad bad idea !!! He needs to go back into domestics top the charts and then come back into the International Team. We were doing ok without him for 6 years ..... Another year which might benefit both parties in the long run shouldn't be a problem !!

On the flip side, Imran Khan, who everyone was mocking pre game is outbowling Wahab and Amir both in this game !!! :ikj FTW
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Amir and wahab have bowled much better than him.
 
He was never the bowler he was hyped as,the early people accept this,the better
 
itsme said:
Amir and wahab have bowled much better than him.
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Let me pull out this game's statistics for you buddy......

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[tr]
[td]Name[/td]
[td]Total Overs[/td]
[td]Total Runs Coincided[/td]
[td]Total Wickets[/td]
[td]Game SR[/td]
[td]Game Average[/td]
[td]Econ[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mohammad Amir[/td]
[td]41.0[/td]
[td]145[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]82.0[/td]
[td]48.33*[/td]
[td]3.536[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Wahab Riaz[/td]
[td]37.0[/td]
[td]110[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]111.0[/td]
[td]55.0[/td]
[td]2.97[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Imran Khan[/td]
[td]41.1[/td]
[td]128[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]41.16[/td]
[td]21.33*[/td]
[td]3.11[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Amir Bowled 6 Maidens with 187 dots in 246 deliveries - Dot% = 76
Wahab Bowled 7 Maidens with 177 dots in 222 deliveries - Dot% = 79.729
Imran Bowled 9 Maidens with 198 dots in 247 deliveries - Dot% = 80.16

Amir Wickets - (2 Top Order Bats, 1 Tail Ender)
Wahab Wickets - (Both Middle Order Bats)
Imran Wickets - (2 Top Order Bats , 3 Middle Order Bats, 1 Tail Ender)

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I can clearly see that Amir and Wahab did indeed bowl better than Imran :14:

The delusions man :facepalm:
 
I agree to a certain extent. He used to bowl 145 easily. Since his comeback, I haven't seen him bowl that quick. Don't know if i'ts because of his fitness or low confidence.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Amir is just ordinary.

But lumping Mustafiz with the name of bolwers like Starc, Hazelwood, Rabada, Anderson and Broad is just foolish. He might better them or he might not. At the moment, he is just a good thinking bowler. Nowhere near the level of Starc, Steyn, Anderson, Broad or for that matter Hazelwood.

If you lump him with those bowlers, be prepared to be ridiculed.
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He mentioned Stokes too, who isn't as good as Steyn or Anderson either. That wasn't his point.
 
There's a lack of consistency in his bowling at the moment.

Most overs he bowls a loose delivery which the batsmen can hit away for a boundary. At his best he never did that.

Also the seam position isn't right, which means there are obviously some technical issues.

Yes he's had dropped catches but at times he has flattered to deceive and been below par.
 
Amir is a talented bowler but this imaginative stats game is getting over the top. E.g. I'll ask the same posters to calculate Javed Miandad's "real" average considering 1 dismissal everytime Shakoor Rana gave him not out unfairly. As per the logic going around Miandad would be out 5-6 times in a single innings. Any way.

Amir has been unlucky, but is being given a long rope which means that the management has been considering everything. If we go purely by stats then Imran Khan should be playing all games and Aamir should be getting rotated with Rahat.
 
If all the catches were taken, his average would look a lot better.

Pak has one of the least athletic and worst catchers in the world.

Amir is a good bowler. Not some ATG bowler that some of his fans portray him to be.
 
He is still good enough to be in this current team. Considering nothing was happening with the ball yesterday his first spell of 9 overs was pretty special. If we had the same thing from the other end......
Just needs the pace back
 
It's good to see people are realising this, better late than never.

And it's about time to recognise Imran Khan as our best Test fast bowler. He is quite underrated. He outperformed everyone is his comeback game, and that too in his comeback game after many months, lol.

We should hype players based on their performances and application, rather than mere skills :D
 
As Usama said, he simply cannot sustain his speeds in test cricket right now and, therefore, lacking penetration.
 
Abdullah said:
He is still good enough to be in this current team. Considering nothing was happening with the ball yesterday his first spell of 9 overs was pretty special. If we had the same thing from the other end......
Just needs the pace back
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How come he is good enough? Should the performing fast bowlers in domestic cricket stop thinking about International cricket? This is not fair. It's time to give new fast bowlers a go, rather than sticking with hype.
 
Too much bashing is going on due to high expectations. He is a good support bowler. Expectations of him leading the attack was too optimistic.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Let me pull out this game's statistics for you buddy......

[table="width: 500, class: grid"]

[tr]
[td]Name[/td]
[td]Total Overs[/td]
[td]Total Runs Coincided[/td]
[td]Total Wickets[/td]
[td]Game SR[/td]
[td]Game Average[/td]
[td]Econ[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mohammad Amir[/td]
[td]41.0[/td]
[td]145[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]82.0[/td]
[td]48.33*[/td]
[td]3.536[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Wahab Riaz[/td]
[td]37.0[/td]
[td]110[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]111.0[/td]
[td]55.0[/td]
[td]2.97[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Imran Khan[/td]
[td]41.1[/td]
[td]128[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]41.16[/td]
[td]21.33*[/td]
[td]3.11[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Amir Bowled 6 Maidens with 187 dots in 246 deliveries - Dot% = 76
Wahab Bowled 7 Maidens with 177 dots in 222 deliveries - Dot% = 79.729
Imran Bowled 9 Maidens with 198 dots in 247 deliveries - Dot% = 80.16

Amir Wickets - (2 Top Order Bats, 1 Tail Ender)
Wahab Wickets - (Both Middle Order Bats)
Imran Wickets - (2 Top Order Bats , 3 Middle Order Bats, 1 Tail Ender)

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I can clearly see that Amir and Wahab did indeed bowl better than Imran :14:

The delusions man :facepalm:
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Did you watch them bowl?Amir 1st spell was the best in the inning and wahab bowl really well in his second.
Imran was pretty average no real movment neither good consistency apart from 2 overs.
Didn't watch after tea.
 
itsme said:
Did you watch them bowl?Amir 1st spell was the best in the inning and wahab bowl really well in his second.
Imran was pretty average no real movment neither good consistency apart from 2 overs.
Didn't watch after tea.
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I watched all of them bowl but clearly subjectivity trumps objective facts that actually matter at the end of the day !!
 
Just an ordinary bowler who had one good series pre ban in England where the pitches were green and the weather was cloudy. That's what happens when you overhype players. Amir is an average bowler who must be dropped now. He will get smashed in Australia. International cricket isn't the place for you to get your rhythm and pace back up again. You should do that in the domestic scene. It's obvious to everyone that he was rushed back into the team on his reputation alone. But now everyone expect some of his delusional fans can see that he is average and doesn't merit a place in the Pak side. He should go and prove himself in the domestic scene before he is brought back into the Pakistan side. Imran Khan who was unfairly dropped and mocked by Amir fans has outbowled Amir in this match. The guy has impressive stats despite playing most of his matches in Asia where pitches aren't conducive to fast bowling. This guy Amir can't even perform on bowling friendly pitches anymore. We need to give the likes of Sadaf Hussain and Mir Humza a go, you know guys that have actually given impressive performances in domestic cricket unlike Amir who hardly played any FC game before he was inserted back into the test side. Enough is enough. Amir should be dropped now.
 
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So where are all those who were stating that Amir is better than Steyn & Starc before he completed his ban?
 
I think that due to the ban - which was fully deserved by the way - Amir may have already missed his best years.

At 18 he was very much looking like a bowler who was set to peak early, like Mitchell Johnson and Shane Bond did.

He is clearly not a bad bowler and he has been directly involved in a couple of magic moments since his return.

However it cannot be denied that this length of time without a matchwinning performance or even a 5-wicket haul of some sort (don't think he's taken one?) is a bit of a concern. Even the bigger pie throwers out there will fluke a 5-wicket haul every 20 innings or so if they keep getting picked.
 
Indiafan said:
How is averaging 29 on helpful NA wickets good? Isn't that true for every bowler/batsman? They do good in some matches, fail in others. In the end overall averages are considered

And the point is English summer was some of the most swing conducive wickets in England's history. He made merry on them no doubt but you are very rarely going to get those kind of wickets again as the last English tour by Pakistan showed. Heck bowlers like RP Singh have looked unplayable on swinging English wicket in the England series India won

Yes, people clearly saw the potential there and praised him rightly. But even then it was mostly potential for most part.
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Gotta agree here. The whole point of an average is that its an average.

Its like saying "because we won the first test by 1 wicket, the innings defeat in the second makes us look bad with a 1-1 draw."
 
Jan Sher said:
How come he is good enough? Should the performing fast bowlers in domestic cricket stop thinking about International cricket? This is not fair. It's time to give new fast bowlers a go, rather than sticking with hype.
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im comparing him to other bowlers in the team
 
Sunny786 said:
I agree to a certain extent. He used to bowl 145 easily. Since his comeback, I haven't seen him bowl that quick. Don't know if i'ts because of his fitness or low confidence.
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No dear,barring a few deliveries he was always a 132 KPH avg speed bowler,a Buffet said over the top expectations has done him no good,he was always a support kinda bowler
 
james said:
i think that due to the ban - which was fully deserved by the way - amir may have already missed his best years.

At 18 he was very much looking like a bowler who was set to peak early, like mitchell johnson and shane bond did.

He is clearly not a bad bowler and he has been directly involved in a couple of magic moments since his return.

However it cannot be denied that this length of time without a matchwinning performance or even a 5-wicket haul of some sort (don't think he's taken one?) is a bit of a concern. Even the bigger pie throwers out there will fluke a 5-wicket haul every 20 innings or so if they keep getting picked.
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potw!
 
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