Mohammad Amir retires from International cricket

[Saj]

I don't like the way this implies they are equal parties or that they have some equal weight in a negotiation or something like that.

Doesn't say equal anywhere.

It says neither party is blameless in this farce.

 

[waleed88]

I can see why you are saying that, and Shoaib sounds like a sellout loose cannon half the time.

However, he is one of the very few in Pakistan who can deconstruct a fast bowling action; its mechanics, and is very knowledgeable on the subject of strength and conditioning.
He acquired most of this during his playing career where he adopted many modern methods to get to the 160kph msrk and in the process worked with a host of specialized coaches, trainers; including Ian Pont as well as somebody who I cant recall, but was a Javelin coach (he hired him to increase his arm speed, through Javelin principles)

Wasim and Waqar are very old fashioned in their approach and adopted none of these modern methods during their careers. Therefore, the fact that their coaching stints had no impact on Amir makes perfect sense because they offer nothing different.

Azhar is better than them but I am not sure if Amir had a decent off season and as he was on the road continuously during the time he was bowling coach.

Despire all of that Amir himself is to blame for this because it cannot possible that he didnt see his bowling deteriorate over the course of time.

However, it is still not late, as it is just a 3,4 month job if Shoaib can hook him up with the right specialists who can then adress to his issues.

Amir bowled those spells in England with Waqar as the coach.

 

[Hawkeye]

Amir bowled those spells in England with Waqar as the coach.

Waqar might be emotional here as he's the one who brought Amir forward under his coaching.

He was there in 2009 and saw it all happen. He trusted Amir.

That trust was ruined.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Doesn't say equal anywhere.

It says neither party is blameless in this farce.

I said "implies", and the quote basically does imply like there are two equal parties that had a falling out. It ain't like that.

It's not the ACB and ECB that couldn't negotiate.

It's one player who got offended that he was dropped, and on the other side is the cricket board.

 

[shamaan]

Good luck for the future.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

If the PCB had any self respect they'd not allow him near a cricket pitch at home again.

He was a convicted fixer, unapologetic too until he had no choice, and could, and arguably should, have been left that way.

They gave him a pathway back, fastracked him in, argued his case, got him playing again, got him a UK visa when, if not for the cricket, he never in hell would've gotten another, and thats the gratitude.

Several years of bang average performances, a premature Test retirement and then a premature retirement because he threw his toys out the pram.

Came off as a horrible individual back in 2009 and this certainly doesn't change his image as a fool who can't work for anything but rather wants it on a plate.

I'd be livid if I were a fan honestly. Talk about giving two fingers to the organisation who single handedly gave him a pathway back into a lifestyle he shamelessly threw away a decade ago.

Learn the lesson, steer the hell clear of anyone involved in fixing and if it means they never play internationally again tough, they made their bed.

With this likely being the end of his return honestly he could be one of the most overhyped players ever. Ridiculous ability but averages of 30 sum it up - pretty average.

 

[Rana]

If the PCB had any self respect they'd not allow him near a cricket pitch at home again.

He was a convicted fixer, unapologetic too until he had no choice, and could, and arguably should, have been left that way.

They gave him a pathway back, fastracked him in, argued his case, got him playing again, got him a UK visa when, if not for the cricket, he never in hell would've gotten another, and thats the gratitude.

Several years of bang average performances, a premature Test retirement and then a premature retirement because he threw his toys out the pram.

Came off as a horrible individual back in 2009 and this certainly doesn't change his image as a fool who can't work for anything but rather wants it on a plate.

I'd be livid if I were a fan honestly. Talk about giving two fingers to the organisation who single handedly gave him a pathway back into a lifestyle he shamelessly threw away a decade ago.

Learn the lesson, steer the hell clear of anyone involved in fixing and if it means they never play internationally again tough, they made their bed.

With this likely being the end of his return honestly he could be one of the most overhyped players ever. Ridiculous ability but averages of 30 sum it up - pretty average.

Top post.

 

[Pacy with wisdom]

Amir bowled those spells in England with Waqar as the coach.

Amir was extremely young and fit back then, and things were happening naturally for him.
A real coach is the one who can make a player re-discover his ability.
Has Waqar done that?

 

[shamaan]

Amir was extremely young and fit back then, and things were happening naturally for him.
A real coach is the one who can make a player re-discover his ability.
Has Waqar done that?

Can you re discover someones ability if he isnt willing to listen or learn ?

 

[Rana]

IMO. PCB need to ensure that the central contracts of its 3 format bowlers (and batsmen) need to be iron clad and highly rewarding. It all comes down to money in this day and age, passion and patriotism is something only we the fans experience.

I think the PCB are blessed to have had a situation such as Amir who could not return the favour back to the board who did everything in their power to ensure a bright young talent from practically no background is not completely wasted. For this, the PCB deserves a lot of credit and respect for putting up with this guy just like a father would not give up on his son that is addicted to drugs and requires a serious rehabilitation period.

Amir was never concerned about being burned out mentally, his number one concern was the physical erosion of his weak frame. The body that he seriously depends on to play intense cricket up until the age of 40. This was taking a huge hit due to the lengthy, fruitless spells that he was producing without much penetration. Also, the supporting bowlers were not exactly deadly in the sense that he could just ride along with an economy rate of 2.8-3.1 and pick up a wicket or 2 during an innings.

The mileage being put in during Test cricket and FC cricket was reducing days/years of his career where he was hoping to retire at 33-35 and play 5 years of easy paisa cricket. He had to get out before it was too late and he couldn’t maximise his earnings.

What should the PCB learn from this?

Amir was identified at a young age to become an all format cricketer, and the PCB have sure identified other young prospects just like him. I would sincerely hope that the central contract should be so rewarding that the cricketer has no need whatsoever to A) sell his soul for money and B) look for an easy way out to earn a lot more money playing franchise cricket.

Someone like Shaheen Shah should be earning $1M per year as a Pakistani central contract player, and approximately $150-250k as a PSL bowler. This is enough money for him to not worry about somehow getting an NOC and playing the LPL, CPL or T10 league.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Very disappointed to hear about his retirement, I didn't even think he'd retire from LOI's after hanging up his boots from Tests. He's fed up with bowling a lot of overs since his comeback without no rest, 5 years out the game takes a huge toll on you and plus he can earn a lot more in T20 leagues where he won't be judged.

 

[waleed88]

Amir was extremely young and fit back then, and things were happening naturally for him.
A real coach is the one who can make a player re-discover his ability.
Has Waqar done that?

Depends on the player and his ambition. Azhar Mahmood couldn't do it, neither could Waqar.

 

[Usman]

Prima Donna be a Prima Donna always.

Amir is a classic case of what happens when a board decides to back a proven cheat. The Guy cheated the board & his fans back then, & has cheated the board & his fans again.

For all their faults aside, Wasim, Waqar & Shoaib at the least kept offering their services till they were on their last legs. For people who don't remember, Wasim, inspite of being the wizard with the ball that he was, was also dropped from Pak team in the later half of his career. But he never gave up, whenever national duty beckoned.

I'm sorry but this is nonsense. First of all, when it comes to cheating, it is clear for everyone to see that Wasim was the champion at it. I'm not talking some small little bowling no balls cheating. I'm talking fixing games. Just read the Justice Qayum report if you have any doubts.

Secondly, these t20 leagues were not around in those days and so these players had a financial incentive to play for Pakistan.

Thirdly, all three of these players at different times of their careers had huge attitude problems. Wasim and Waqar even admit it openly.

Amir committed that one heinous mistake in 2010 but he has never had an attitude problem.

In my view, Amir's retirement is a big loss for Pakistan cricket. Yes he doesn't always perform in every game. BUT he is the best big match bowler in Pakistan. He does things when the pressure is on which no one else can do.

Take the Champions Trophy final - you name one other bowler in the World who would take out Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli and Shikaar Dhavan in one hit. Heck when Kohli was dropped off Am it's bowling, he just came in next ball and got the wicket again.

This is the stuff of Champions.

Last year at the World Cup, I had the pleasure of watching him live and he was simply sensational. The passion he evoked amongst Pakistani fans was unmatched.

I fear it will take either 1) an absolute mauling of our bowlers by some opposition team or 2) a change of management before the PCB tries to build bridges with Amir and try to get him to reverse his retirement.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Wahab at least makes an effort

He does not play tests. That is the exact same thing. And Amir was a better limited-overs bowler than him. All Misbah has done is make things harder for Pakistan's attack. Wahab's days in international cricket are numbered because of his age and then all this would do is add pressure on Shaheen who will have to carry the entire attack.

 

[Titan24]

He does not play tests. That is the exact same thing. And Amir was a better limited-overs bowler than him. All Misbah has done is make things harder for Pakistan's attack. Wahab's days in international cricket are numbered because of his age and then all this would do is add pressure on Shaheen who will have to carry the entire attack.

When combined squad for England tour was being announced, Wahab did say that I am available for test cricket if Pak team needs me.

 

[AamirWarraich]

I used to be a big supporter of Mohammad Aamir. However he is acting like a drama queen. It's a bit harsh by Misbah and Waqar to drop him from limited overs teams due to him quitting Tests.
I agree with Mamoon that he is better than rubbish like Musa and Rauf.

But it is clear now that he is not the same bowler that he was in 2010. And most likely his real age is 31-32, not 28. At best he probably has 1 year left where he can operate at a high level for the international team in ODIs and T20s.

His real age will start to show soon. He would be wise to stick to just league cricket for 4-5 years before retiring. I'll be amazed if he plays a single game after his official age hits 33.

Thanks for the 2017 final. Glad we can move on from him

 

[viveks]

He was a class LOI bowler the past few years. I reckon he is too good to not come back, shouldn't have been dropped in the first place

 

[Suleiman]

So all he will be remembered for is the t20 2009 and CT 2017 finals... pretty poor returns for someone hyped to be next Wasim and whatnot.

Biggest letdown along with Umar Akmal given the potential they showed early on. Sad.

 

[shaz619]

If the PCB had any self respect they'd not allow him near a cricket pitch at home again.

He was a convicted fixer, unapologetic too until he had no choice, and could, and arguably should, have been left that way.

They gave him a pathway back, fastracked him in, argued his case, got him playing again, got him a UK visa when, if not for the cricket, he never in hell would've gotten another, and thats the gratitude.

Several years of bang average performances, a premature Test retirement and then a premature retirement because he threw his toys out the pram.

Came off as a horrible individual back in 2009 and this certainly doesn't change his image as a fool who can't work for anything but rather wants it on a plate.

I'd be livid if I were a fan honestly. Talk about giving two fingers to the organisation who single handedly gave him a pathway back into a lifestyle he shamelessly threw away a decade ago.

Learn the lesson, steer the hell clear of anyone involved in fixing and if it means they never play internationally again tough, they made their bed.

With this likely being the end of his return honestly he could be one of the most overhyped players ever. Ridiculous ability but averages of 30 sum it up - pretty average.

Hilarious, your lot have no shame at all though repeatedly picking Irish defectors. Lets be frank, you would happily pick a bowler like Amir after he has played for every other country under the sun and cry every day about Eoin Morgan, if he decided he wants to play for Ireland tomorrow you would get on your knees for him, so don’t talk about shame; Irish cricket board is the most shameless board in the world at the moment

 

[shaz619]

So all he will be remembered for is the t20 2009 and CT 2017 finals... pretty poor returns for someone hyped to be next Wasim and whatnot.

Biggest letdown along with Umar Akmal given the potential they showed early on. Sad.

That’s 2 ICC trophies more then Wasim Akram and also, there are aspects of Wasim’s legacy Amir did live up to

 

[Titan24]

That’s 2 ICC trophies more then Wasim Akram and also, there are aspects of Wasim’s legacy Amir did live up to

Wasim didnt use to have World T20 and CT in his era though.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

When combined squad for England tour was being announced, Wahab did say that I am available for test cricket if Pak team needs me.

He's not playing tests, what's the difference? He's not going to be playing tests in New Zealand either. And is Misbah really so petty and egotistical that he will treat Wahab differently just because he expressed intent and said what Misbah wanted to hear?

 

[shaz619]

Wasim didnt use to have World T20 and CT in his era though.

Well there would be three possibilities as far as those events are concerned

1. Quit, simply don’t show up for a KO game
2. If you do show up, make sure you get drunk the day before a KO game
3. Do anything but try and win if all is lost

 

[Titan24]

He's not playing tests, what's the difference? He's not going to be playing tests in New Zealand either. And is Misbah really so petty and egotistical that he will treat Wahab differently just because he expressed intent and said what Misbah wanted to hear?

I guess to show willingness to be flexible for the team is important especially in the scenario when combined squad was being selected. We cant blame Wahab if he is not selected. More importantly Wahab has bowled better than Amir in the last few series they have played together and thats why he has been getting the nod. If he will stop delivering, he will be dropped too.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Seeing Ishant, Shami, Bumrah etc earning in millions must be a tough pill to swallow for Amir.
So he made a logical plan, to protect his future.
Sad day for cricket, and a big loss for Pakistan. But it is partly PCB's fault where they are not able to monetize the biggest game in Pakistan and get the moolah for their players.

 

[MenInG]

Seeing Ishant, Shami, Bumrah etc earning in millions must be a tough pill to swallow for Amir.
So he made a logical plan, to protect his future.
Sad day for cricket, and a big loss for Pakistan. But it is partly PCB's fault where they are not able to monetize the biggest game in Pakistan and get the moolah for their players.

Its about winning games for your country. moolah shoolah comes later.

 

[Kroll]

It wouldn’t surprise me if all this talk about being treated unfairly is nothing more than a smokescreen.

It was probably all part of the grand plan to quit Pakistan cricket so he can commit fully to the leagues and live in England without the hassle of international cricket.

 

[IMMY69]

That’s 2 ICC trophies more then Wasim Akram and also, there are aspects of Wasim’s legacy Amir did live up to

Wrong.
Wasim Akram has a world cup plus at least one or two equivalent of ICC Champions trophy..Nehru Cup comes to mind..

Cant say much about the other aspects of his legacy

 

[IMMY69]

I also believe and agree that a domestic tournament cannot be used for an international cricketer's exclusion but, thing is he was excluded from T20 setup before that against Eng (Stats shared would have warranted that in most countries) and Nat T20 was an opportunity for him to impress and get selected again. However, he failed there too so I am not sure on what basis his selection in T20s currently could have been justified.

He has taken retirement before the next ODI series so not sure what team management would have done. However, he deserved to be in the upcoming ODI squad but, unfortunately he has taken retirement even before that.

I would have defended him in the scenario of ODI exclusion but, at the moment he is turning out to be wrong side with poor performances in T20 internationals as well as domestic cricket and then taking retirement because, he believes he has been mistreated.

If he would have been performing in T20s even decently then people would have supported him over Misbah and Waqar but, his exclusion is easily backed by stats.

Apologies in advance if I've misunderstood, but Amir was part of the T20 Set up against England. He spent his two months in England in his bio secure bubble, playing intra squad games, only to get injured in the very first over he blowed against England.

So when you break it down, he has only really missed a few t20 internationals and that too against Zimbabwe when everyone was clamouring for youngster to be picked.

Plus he hasn't been in great form as we all know.

Putting all this together, why should a player feel entitled to a place without having any performances behind him? Its just wrong.

Then to throw you toys out of the pram rather then put in the effort is just the nail in the coffin. Tells you that he was in a comfort zone especially when you consider that he retired from test cricket.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Its about winning games for your country. moolah shoolah comes later.

Don't think Amir thought it that way. the names i have mentioned have won plenty of games but they are making good money as well.
Amir is more skilful than them for sure..

 

[Saj]

One wonders about the quality of advice some cricketers receive and what they do with that advice.

 

[shaz619]

Wrong.
Wasim Akram has a world cup plus at least one or two equivalent of ICC Champions trophy..Nehru Cup comes to mind..

Cant say much about the other aspects of his legacy

How many ICC trophies has he won involving global teams and which ones were they again ?

 

[Titan24]

Apologies in advance if I've misunderstood, but Amir was part of the T20 Set up against England. He spent his two months in England in his bio secure bubble, playing intra squad games, only to get injured in the very first over he blowed against England.

So when you break it down, he has only really missed a few t20 internationals and that too against Zimbabwe when everyone was clamouring for youngster to be picked.

Plus he hasn't been in great form as we all know.

Putting all this together, why should a player feel entitled to a place without having any performances behind him? Its just wrong.

Then to throw you toys out of the pram rather then put in the effort is just the nail in the coffin. Tells you that he was in a comfort zone especially when you consider that he retired from test cricket.

I totally agree with you and have mentioned his mediocre T20I stats and afterwards Nat T20 stats in the thread. Rest of my post you have quoted was also regarding how Amir has been at fault and he was excluded from just T20s and that was completely justified based upon stats. For the first statement regarding T20 setup against England, I think I didnt put it out well.

My point was that after the first T20 when he went out pulling a hamstring with poor figures and truing out to be one reasons for Pak to lose the match, he wasnt even in the picture for the next matches. Mediocre form and poor fitness along with not being able to show any improvement in Nat T20 he faced non selection against NZ and rightly so. As I mentioned previously this is how it was going to happen in most of the countries considering his lack of effectiveness in recent times.

 

[King_Kohli]

Pakistam missing Amir at death overs.

 

[Indiafan]

Pakistam missing Amir at death overs.

Current Amir does nothing in initial matches. He will wait till last match or semi final or finals to even make bare minimum effort. Till then he trundles and gets hit

 

[Titan24]

Seeing Ishant, Shami, Bumrah etc earning in millions must be a tough pill to swallow for Amir.
So he made a logical plan, to protect his future.
Sad day for cricket, and a big loss for Pakistan. But it is partly PCB's fault where they are not able to monetize the biggest game in Pakistan and get the moolah for their players.

Thing is any kid only starts playing cricket at a young age due to the passion for the game. Otherwise rationally whats the probability of going into national team and earning big sums. Thing is its pretty clear Amir’s passion for the game starting dying along with his soul when he said yes to that no ball or so in 2010.

No one’s aim is to restrict himself to T20 leagues around unless your passion for the game is almost gone and the game has become just become a job, when that happens its the end of any athleteÂ’s career.

Anyways Amir earns same/more from PSL currently than Ishant does from IPL, if Ishant’s salary as per sources is correct.

 

[Indiafan]

That’s 2 ICC trophies more then Wasim Akram and also, there are aspects of Wasim’s legacy Amir did live up to

Sreesanth has won two world cups for India (World T20 and World cup). So using your logic he is the better than any bowler pakistan has ever produced in history including Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar. Some random no name Aussies will have more world cup wins combined than legends

Team results are poor poor effort to hype up someone's poor individual stats

 

[shaz619]

Sreesanth has won two world cups for India (World T20 and World cup). So using your logic he is the better than any bowler pakistan has ever produced in history including Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Akhtar. Some random no name Aussies will have more world cup wins combined than legends

Team results are poor poor effort to hype up someone's poor individual stats

I haven’t used your logic, I simply enquired. Sreesanth and those Aussies have my respect for any of their pivotal roles in winning those trophies then

 

[IMMY69]

How many ICC trophies has he won involving global teams and which ones were they again ?

1992 World Cup
1988 nehru cup

That's two just there

 

[Varun]

Saying it right now. If Pakistan pick him after all this drama at any point in future, they've got a screw loose.

 

[IMMY69]

Saying it right now. If Pakistan pick him after all this drama at any point in future, they've got a screw loose.

I agree

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Saying it right now. If Pakistan pick him after all this drama at any point in future, they've got a screw loose.

If you think Amir has actually retired then you’ve got a screw loose.

Just watch after this tour, Misbah and Waqar will be removed and Amir will walk back in. Insha Allah

 

[Varun]

If you think Amir has actually retired then you’ve got a screw loose.

Just watch after this tour, Misbah and Waqar will be removed and Amir will walk back in. Insha Allah

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Over a decade of hero worshipping the 30-averaging fraud and giving him the red carpet - he must have done something good in his last life at least.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Over a decade of hero worshipping the 30-averaging fraud and giving him the red carpet - he must have done something good in his last life at least.

I mean he has won Pakistan the T20 WC and the CT. Even with his 5 years of suspension, he’s still achieved more than the current lot of players.

For a bowler of his calibre to be retiring at 28, why would the PCB let him go? You really think they’ll choose Misbah and Waqar over Amir?

 

[choudhary6964]

This jatt guy is like a cancer.
He is a sly manipulator who would ruin anybody's career for the sake of getting views. He did it with Umar Akmal and now it is Amir's turn.
It is disappointing how ignorant these players are how they dont understand the motives of a sleazy fella like him.

Amir doesn't need that jatt guy he needs Shoaib gujjar.shoaib akhtar knows a lot about fast bowling. I m sure amir will improve under Shoaib akhtar.

 

[shaz619]

1992 World Cup
1988 nehru cup

That's two just there

World Cup 92 he did good and was impactful, Nehru cup 1989 he did naff all in the KO games. Imran Khan was Pakistan’s best player and Qadir played a key role to.

Amir has 2 ICC trophies and played a key role in the KO stages

 

[IMMY69]

World Cup 92 he did good and was impactful, Nehru cup 1989 he did naff all in the KO games. Imran Khan was Pakistan’s best player and Qadir played a key role to.

Amir has 2 ICC trophies and played a key role in the KO stages

Amir has great ability which was largely wasted due to his time out of the game..
Wasim had an almost twenty year career in which he won many many matches for Pakistan in both tests and the shorter format.

I don't think you can really compare the two.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

One wonders about the quality of advice some cricketers receive and what they do with that advice.

Wait. You’re telling me these guys take advice? Good one Saj bhai!

 

[MenInG]

One wonders about the quality of advice some cricketers receive and what they do with that advice.

Its more of a reflection on Amir, if he surrounds himself with people who don't have his or Pakistan's interests at heart

 

[MenInG]

Wait. You’re telling me these guys take advice? Good one Saj bhai!

Amir got into trouble with bad company in 2010 so clearly is a bad judge of character when it comes to friends.

 

[JattMaula]

Never say never in Pakistan.

Amir may captain Pakistan t20 team in 2022 WC and we would all remember this tread fondly.

And I'm getting strong "a Lala retirement" event vibe from this.

 

[Kroll]

Amir got into trouble with bad company in 2010 so clearly is a bad judge of character when it comes to friends.

I'd say it was more to do with sheer greed than judging character at that time.

 

[ahmedzee]

I completely blame Waqar and Misbah for this. How can you drop your top bowler, someone who has proved his worth in 2019 World Cup as top Pakistan bowler. Yes he wasn't getting the required performance in PSL, but if you look at how much he played after 2019 WC for Pakistan you can count those matches in one hand.

Waqar is a pathetic coach with dictator mentality. This guy is going through his 5th term as coach, how is he make a difference?

Misbah is equally to be blamed here for unnecessary dropping Aamir time and again. If it isn't broken, why fix it. Misbah is trying to fix things since he became selector/coach. Why even fix it if things were on an upward trend when Mickey left?

I hope some sanity prevails and Aamir turns back his decision so we get to see him in action soon. These NZ pitches would've been perfect for him.

 

[ahmedzee]

On the back of performances like Amir's during the 2019 WC, players last for years while doing NOTHING! Now I'm not saying that that is the right approach, all I'm saying that a different set of rules are being applied in Amir's case.

100% agree. Let me give you an example of someone like Musa. Yes he is new but he has failed every single time he represented his domestic or international team in the last 3 years. How is he considered over someone like Aamir. Even Sohail Khan and Shinwari are selected at times when they have no performance to show. While Aamir is discarded mainly due to personal animosity or grudge of Waqar (or Misbah)

 

[RyanRyan10]

Thing is any kid only starts playing cricket at a young age due to the passion for the game. Otherwise rationally whats the probability of going into national team and earning big sums. Thing is its pretty clear Amir’s passion for the game starting dying along with his soul when he said yes to that no ball or so in 2010.

No one’s aim is to restrict himself to T20 leagues around unless your passion for the game is almost gone and the game has become just become a job, when that happens its the end of any athleteÂ’s career.

Anyways Amir earns same/more from PSL currently than Ishant does from IPL, if Ishant’s salary as per sources is correct.

Ishant's IPL salary is slightly higher than Amir's PSL salary.

Ishant also warns 5 crore INR from BCCI contract list.

Amir is definitely a better t20 bowler than Ishant and can make more money if he gets picked in the IPL

 

[shaz619]

Amir has great ability which was largely wasted due to his time out of the game..
Wasim had an almost twenty year career in which he won many many matches for Pakistan in both tests and the shorter format.

I don't think you can really compare the two.

Wasim had a great career in comparison for sure, however Amir was the more impactful in ICC KO stages which in turn resulted in two very memorable trophies, this also extends when compared to Waqar who choked when it mattered against India and also Misbah quit against India twice

 

[Titan24]

Ishant's IPL salary is slightly higher than Amir's PSL salary.

I just searched and it turned out to be around $150,000 or something. Amir was in Platinum category and gets somewhere between $147,000 to $220,000. So as you said slight difference.

 

[Titan24]

Ishant also warns 5 crore INR from BCCI contract list.

Amir is definitely a better t20 bowler than Ishant and can make more money if he gets picked in the IPL

Yes BCCI pays more to contracted cricketer but thats not relevant in this case.

I doubt he can play IPL straight away by getting British nationality. Otherwise every Pakistani player with dual nationality would be in IPL draft and there are few such players. Not sure how it works or will it even work.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Amir got into trouble with bad company in 2010 so clearly is a bad judge of character when it comes to friends.

“A bad judge of character”, what was the 17 year old Amir thinking when his captain chose the most vulnerable player in the team to commit a crime. It wasn’t just Amir who was surrounded by Mazhar Majeed, there was Wahab, Akmal brothers and Umar Amin who were all seen with him. If 99% of the posters here were in the same situation as Amir was in, they would’ve done the same.

 

[Buffet]

If the PCB had any self respect they'd not allow him near a cricket pitch at home again.

He was a convicted fixer, unapologetic too until he had no choice, and could, and arguably should, have been left that way.

They gave him a pathway back, fastracked him in, argued his case, got him playing again, got him a UK visa when, if not for the cricket, he never in hell would've gotten another, and thats the gratitude.

Several years of bang average performances, a premature Test retirement and then a premature retirement because he threw his toys out the pram.

Came off as a horrible individual back in 2009 and this certainly doesn't change his image as a fool who can't work for anything but rather wants it on a plate.

I'd be livid if I were a fan honestly. Talk about giving two fingers to the organisation who single handedly gave him a pathway back into a lifestyle he shamelessly threw away a decade ago.

Learn the lesson, steer the hell clear of anyone involved in fixing and if it means they never play internationally again tough, they made their bed.

With this likely being the end of his return honestly he could be one of the most overhyped players ever. Ridiculous ability but averages of 30 sum it up - pretty average.

PCB may again take him. If that happens then PCB and Amir will deserve each other.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Thing is any kid only starts playing cricket at a young age due to the passion for the game. Otherwise rationally whats the probability of going into national team and earning big sums. Thing is its pretty clear Amir’s passion for the game starting dying along with his soul when he said yes to that no ball or so in 2010.

No one’s aim is to restrict himself to T20 leagues around unless your passion for the game is almost gone and the game has become just become a job, when that happens its the end of any athleteÂ’s career.

Anyways Amir earns same/more from PSL currently than Ishant does from IPL, if Ishant’s salary as per sources is correct.

In 2008 after that ponting spell ishant got a 900k usd contract with Kolkata in 2008-09, then around 2012 his stocks went down in IPL. Still had contracts ranging from 150k to 350k. Even 900k is a lot of money anywhere in the world i mean I will retire back to India if I get that instant hit of money for 3 months work.
Amir for sure will get a million dollar contract as a novelty factor and if he puts passion and Jazba in his ipl performances he will be in demand.

 

[Waleed93]

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This clown thinks he is the second coming of Imran Khan.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Amir’s contract was not with PCB or current management. It is with Pakistan and Pakistan cricket fans.
I feel with this retirement he has broken that contract. Bitterly disappointed with him and for cricket as it needs quality bowlers like him.
But this was coming and he has taken a logical decision to protect his interests instead of his country.

 

[The Viper]

Inzamam ul Haq on Amir's retirement:

"Mohammad Amir is a fantastic player and his absence will affect the side. However, we have other bowlers also, who are doing well,”

“These kind of incidents should not take place in Pakistan cricket and this is more important for me as compared to how it affects our bowling strength. No player should not leave cricket in such a manner, after having served Pakistan cricket, as it doesn’t look good.”

“If Amir had any issues with Waqar Younis, he should have communicated with Misbah ul Haq and if that didn’t work he should have approached the PCB. If the issue remained after this, then he had the right to take such a decision, It’s unfortunate to see a player retire just because he was unhappy with one person.”

 

[FreePalestine]

“A bad judge of character”, what was the 17 year old Amir thinking when his captain chose the most vulnerable player in the team to commit a crime. It wasn’t just Amir who was surrounded by Mazhar Majeed, there was Wahab, Akmal brothers and Umar Amin who were all seen with him. If 99% of the posters here were in the same situation as Amir was in, they would’ve done the same.

You think 99% of people on this site would have gotten involved in match fixing if they had a chance? Quite an unnecessarily bleak view of human nature you have there.

 

[Jabo]

big blow

but the bigger blow is waqar & misbah within the pcb

 

[Hitman]

“A bad judge of character”, what was the 17 year old Amir thinking when his captain chose the most vulnerable player in the team to commit a crime. It wasn’t just Amir who was surrounded by Mazhar Majeed, there was Wahab, Akmal brothers and Umar Amin who were all seen with him. If 99% of the posters here were in the same situation as Amir was in, they would’ve done the same.

Not really. Selling off your country as a cricketer is done by the lowest of the low scums on earth. I'm confident that 99% of the posters here will never sell their country for a few bucks.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

You think 99% of people on this site would have gotten involved in match fixing if they had a chance? Quite an unnecessarily bleak view of human nature you have there.

Yup, If 99% of the posters came from the same background as Amir did then of course they would have. Was Amir ever educated?

I don’t blame Amir one bit for the spot fixing, I blame the agent, the captain and PCB.

Given Pakistan’s history of fixing, PCB should’ve taken extra care of the youngest player in the team on an away tour. Amir is their responsibility. Even Shahid Aftidi had warned PCB prior to the fixing, but they didn’t take it seriously.

If 99% of posters came from the pind and had no education, they would’ve done the same. 100% sure of that.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Not really. Selling off your country as a cricketer is done by the lowest of the low scums on earth. I'm confident that 99% of the posters here will never sell their country for a few bucks.

He didn’t sell out his country, he was trapped by his country men. He was left unprotected by PCB, and since that scandal, what has PCB done to prevent a similar situation from arising?

 

[daytrader]

He didn’t sell out his country, he was trapped by his country men. He was left unprotected by PCB, and since that scandal, what has PCB done to prevent a similar situation from arising?

They brought in MISBAH and gave him a danda. You won't hear about fixing in the PCT till he's around

 

[shah_1]

No education = he doesn't know what corruption is ? Was he 6 to 8 year old at that time

He didn't come directly from pind to England tour, he had one year of international cricket. He was already living a decent lifestyle earning legal money, was going to live a king lifestyle in Pakistan if he had earned through legal means. It is not like some Pakistan goverment officers earning peanuts

He was being greedy and wanted more money. You are pathetic for defending him [MENTION=147214]YousafTheBeast[/MENTION]

 

[YousafTheBeast]

They brought in MISBAH and gave him a danda. You won't hear about fixing in the PCT till he's around

Misbah’s danda couldn’t stop Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif fixing though.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

No education = he doesn't know what corruption is ? Was he 6 to 8 year old at that time

He didn't come directly from pind to England tour, he had one year of international cricket. He was already living a decent lifestyle earning legal money, was going to live a king lifestyle in Pakistan if he had earned through legal means. It is not like some Pakistan goverment officers earning peanuts

He was being greedy and wanted more money. You are pathetic for defending him [MENTION=147214]YousafTheBeast[/MENTION]

We’re all greedy and want more money.

Well there’s a reason why in most parts of the world people under the age of 18 require consent for most things, because they’re naive and make rash decisions. So compare an 17 year old kid from the UK to a 17 year old kid from a village in Pakistan, whose more likely to be naive? A 17 year old Pakistani isn’t grown up till he’s 21, that’s when their brain starts to fully function.

 

[Mujtaba2900]

Forget the Clown Amir.
Shaheen is the next big thing

 

[Realromeo]

Mohammad Amir speaking on a video:

"I am not moving away from cricket but you must have seen the sort of environment that has been created, and in the way I have been sidelined"

"I got a wake-up call when I was not part of the 35-players (for NZ squad); When I wasnt included in that list then it was a wake-up call for me to consider how I wish to take my career forward"

"To be honest, the way things are at the moment, I cannot play cricket under this team management"

"The way things appear to me, I am leaving cricket at this time as I am being mentally tortured and I dont think I can take this torture any more"

"I have already taken been subject to a lot of torture from 2010 to 2015 - as this was the time I was away from cricket due to that incident, and I served punishment for that also"

"What really adds to the mental torture is the claim that PCB invested a lot in me"

"Only 2 people releated to the PCB I will give credit to for investing in me as I had comeback into cricket after 5 years and just one year - they are Najam Sethi and Shahid Afridi - the rest of the team was saying that we do not want to play alongside Mohammad Amir; So I will always thank those 2 people as they supported me at a tough time"

"I took a personal decision to retire from Tests and that was presented in front of people as if I dont want to play for my country - Tell me, who doesnt want to play for his country?"

"They somehow attached my decision to me wanting to playing in leagues but the fact is, I made my comeback into cricket from playing in leagues - as you would remember, I started off from the BPL; If I was so interested in playing in leagues - that would have been the best time for me to do that and say that I dont want to play for Pakistan as I am enjoying leagues so much"

"My view was to invest as much as I could of my time in white-ball cricket for my country as I could; However, every 2 months or so, our Bowling Coach (Waqar) says that he (Amir) has ditched us, sometimes he says its because of his (Amir's) workload"

"It seems that they have given me a wake-up call to say that, Bhai Sahib, you arent in our future plans"

"In a few days I will be back in Pakistan and after meeting my family, I will make a proper statement and give reasons for this"

"Everyone can see how I have been wronged but I would like to thank all those who helped and brought me into cricket by making a proper statement to the media"

"I do not thing, given the kind of environment that exists, that I can continue to play under the Team management"

===

PCB Response

PCB statement on Mohammad Amir

Lahore, 17 December 2020:


Pakistan Cricket Board chief executive Wasim Khan spoke with Mohammad Amir this afternoon following reports that the fast bowler had announced his retirement from international cricket. The 29-year-old confirmed to the PCB chief executive that he has no desires or intensions of playing international cricket and as such, he should not be considered for future international matches.

This is a personal decision of Mohammad Amir, which the PCB respects, and as such, will not make any further comment on this matter at this stage.

Respect for those players. I can't even think of an another team that would welcome a disgraceful cricketer.

Lot of crying from and moaning. This is the type of player board never wants to deal with.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Respect for those players. I can't even think of an another team that would welcome a disgraceful cricketer.

Lot of crying from and moaning. This is the type of player board never wants to deal with.

Australia.

Smith.

Warner.

Bancroft.

 

[Hitman]

Australia.

Smith.

Warner.

Bancroft.

Non of them fixed matches. Quite a lot of players have been found tampering the ball till date. All of them were fined and banned for a few matches, and they were allowed to return. But credit to CA that they banned those players for a year to set an example.

Which match fixer from any other team has ever made a come back?

 

[Realromeo]

Australia.

Smith.

Warner.

Bancroft.

Are you really comparing ball tampering to Match fixing and selling your own country out ? pathetic lol

 

[Hitman]

Are you really comparing ball tampering to Match fixing and selling your own country out ? pathetic lol

You can't help someone who is deliberately biased.

 

[daytrader]

Misbah’s danda couldn’t stop Sharjeel Khan and Khalid Latif fixing though.

They're not part of the current PCT, we haven't had a controversy in the national team since 2010