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Mohammad Asghar - Slow left arm orthodox spinner from Hub area

No_Username said:
David Warner hadn't played a single first class game when he was selected for Australia in the 2010 World T20 IIRC.

Sometimes it is better to introduce raw talent to the international stage instead of waiting for them to turn 30 and gain that so called experience. Pakistan in the past used to introduce young players and it definitely worked.
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how many FC matches Wasim Akram had played??????????????????
 
Bullet Drive said:
And also Usman Qadir

And I have been told by some that Junaid is a very good bowler.
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Your post on best spin talent in the World had some weight, until you mentioned Usman Qadir. Just ruined it man.

Rest have potential, but stop mentioning this mediocrity Usman please just out of uncontrolled excitement.
 
He has immense talent as he can turn the ball very well and also has a beautiful arm ball. By the way what was Amir's age when he debuted? 17 right? He was debuted at that low-ish age because he was talented and so as is Asghar and can give us result.
 
Most likely PCB won't. There is a psyche in board that spinners shouldn't be introduced to the international stage when they are too young. Its also for the batsman, but since we are so inept in batting, we are forced to bring youngsters like Sami. Only pacers, used to be picked while they were still teenagers. But the last of them has been Amir, and maybe Junaid but after him, we haven't tried any pacer too early.

The thinking behind this is since fast bowler career is short, he should be given more time at international stage. For a batsman and spinner who can play upto 40 (if they are fit enough), they should only be brought in national side when they are mature.

But what Amir has done in the past, PCB is now reluctant to give a chance to even pacers at young age. So, I am really not expecting any of Zafar Gohar, Asghar or Shahzaib to be selected in anytime sooner unless Ajmal retires or gets drop and we have slot for spinner in ODI team.
 
[MENTION=135183]Pace90[/MENTION] look at no. 1 and no. 2 the difference , no. 1 is way ahead of others.
 
pcb will wait for 2 years. :)
btw, Asghar and gohar are very good options. at least one should play against Zimbabwe.
Zafar deserve more i think. Asghar needs time ( pcb thinking )
 
Stallion__ said:
unless Ajmal retires or gets drop and we have slot for spinner in ODI team.
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I agree with what you said overall, but Ajmal will not play for Pak any time soon, if at all. Some reports confirmed that Ajmal won't be in the Zimbabwe games, rightly so, considering how he did against Bangladesh. Also the management has kept him away after his poor ODI run against Bangladesh, which means we'll probably not see him in green colors again unless he begins looking effective again.

With that being said, Zulfi was never a ODI regular and will most likely not play against Zim either. Yasir Shah will probably get a go against Zim. Our other spin option Raza Hassan will be MIA now due to some dumb decisions. So if you look at it, PCB has to look at more spin options for LOIs. So the chance of Zafar Gohar or some other young spinner is very much possible. Not sure about Asghar though, as he is still very young and inexperienced.
 
jog_1 said:
I agree with what you said overall, but Ajmal will not play for Pak any time soon, if at all. Some reports confirmed that Ajmal won't be in the Zimbabwe games, rightly so, considering how he did against Bangladesh. Also the management has kept him away after his poor ODI run against Bangladesh, which means we'll probably not see him in green colors again unless he begins looking effective again.

With that being said, Zulfi was never a ODI regular and will most likely not play against Zim either. Yasir Shah will probably get a go against Zim. Our other spin option Raza Hassan will be MIA now due to some dumb decisions. So if you look at it, PCB has to look at more spin options for LOIs. So the chance of Zafar Gohar or some other young spinner is very much possible. Not sure about Asghar though, as he is still very young and inexperienced.
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It will be good if it happens because I am not in favor of playing any of Ajmal, Yasir and Babar in ODI or T20 team.
 
Mohammad Asghar and Usama Mir are really impressive so are zafar gohar and kamran ghulam. Right now among these 4 kamran ghulam seems to be a genuine allrounder , whereas in modern cricket a spinner should be able to score few runs Example moin ali, graeme sawnn etc so among Mohammad Asghar zafar gohar and usama mir we should pick the one who has better fitness, fielding and batting abilities. But I must say that usama gets more turn than yasir, shahzeb, karamat, usman and zahid & Asghar gets more turn than zafar gohar, kamran ghulam, Mohammad nawaz, zulfiqar Babar , Abdur rehman.

If India played akshit Patel at 18,19 age so can we play Asghar.
Now we have healthy competition even at Pakistan A level and at domestic between Asghar and zafar and between shahzeb and usama Mir.

This all discussion and threads show that Pakistan definitely has potential players at grassroot level despite the poor domestic structure and administrators etc
 
What is mohammad asghar as a batsman or is he a typical pakistani bowler who has no clue how to bat.... a tailender????
 
Watched Asghar in highlights only. Turns the ball more than any other spinner playing in the tournament.

But didn't see him bowling an arm bowl. Needs to develop that otherwise he will be ineffective particularly against left-handers.
 
we should replace zulfi baba with asgher or zafar and yasir with zahid mehmood in odi and t-20
 
his arm bowl is like herath , he got almost all his wickets by that deadly arm bowl he bowls
 
why is everyone saying asgher is been impressive in this tournament , didnt anyone watch presidents trophy gold he was 2nd highest wicket taker.
 
Yet again a very impressive performance by him today especially the 1st over he bowled to one of the top 3 batsman of the tournament currently, got riffatullah out giving away 1 run.
 
Whether u agree or not his bowling look so much alike shakib. Saw him today playing very controll, accurate bowling.
 
Shaan said:
Whether u agree or not his bowling look so much alike shakib. Saw him today playing very controll, accurate bowling.
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Asghar gets a massive amount of turn, Shakib isn't a big turner of the ball.
 
he is in emerging camp list because he was 2nd highest wicket taker in president one day gold
 
Some interesting young spinners in the domestic circuit: Mohammad Asghar, Sadaqat Ali, Usama Mir, Kamran Ghulam, Zafar Gohar and Karamat Ali. Then there is the not so young Bilal Asif who can seriously bat.

We also still have Mohammad Nawaz, Shahzaib Ahmed and Imad Wasim waiting for their chances.
 
he is similar to mohammad aamer , he is 18 and possesses same talent aamer had in this age , pcb dont waste his talent induct him in national side against zimbabwe.
 
he has got talent to serve pakistan for 20 years , he is 18 and iagree with some here that looks aamir like talent , should be in the side as soon as possible.
 
he has opened his account this season with 4 , he will take 50+ wickets this season
 
Asadullah said:
How do u rate him?
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Hardly seen enough to comment - T20 isn't the best format to comment on a spinner. Also, PAK domestics are not the best place for judging spinners - most batsmen plays with cross batted force without foot-work & the wickets are sluggish. Any accurate left-arm spinner 'll get low of purchase there, you 'll understand that from the career FC stats of Ajmal & Babar/Rehman/Kashif for FC matched played in PAK.

However, I was impressed with Gohar - this boy is matching him stat by stat, so must be potential. Now, he needs to play under a positive Captain who 'll use him to get wickets. Captain like Misbah's most favorite bowler must be Babar - he can throw the ball to him & ask for 35 runs from one end in a full session.
 
MMHS said:
Hardly seen enough to comment - T20 isn't the best format to comment on a spinner. Also, PAK domestics are not the best place for judging spinners - most batsmen plays with cross batted force without foot-work & the wickets are sluggish. Any accurate left-arm spinner 'll get low of purchase there, you 'll understand that from the career FC stats of Ajmal & Babar/Rehman/Kashif for FC matched played in PAK.

However, I was impressed with Gohar - this boy is matching him stat by stat, so must be potential. Now, he needs to play under a positive Captain who 'll use him to get wickets. Captain like Misbah's most favorite bowler must be Babar - he can throw the ball to him & ask for 35 runs from one end in a full session.
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He didnt pick wickets in Sharjah practice games, probably needs a bit more grooming. Bullet Drive rates Gohar more as well
 
Asadullah said:
He didnt pick wickets in Sharjah practice games, probably needs a bit more grooming. Bullet Drive rates Gohar more as well
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BD is a keen cricket enthusiast - his only problem starts when it comes to PAK youngsters. For example, he rates Gohar over Asghar - nothing wrong with that, but problem 'll start if he rates Gohar like Bedi & Asghar as Verity.........................................................
 
Very impressive and will be useful in T20s but we should wait little more. Let him play on different pitches so we can find out more about him.
 
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I rate him more than Gohar as a pure spinner

He has got a great loop, excellent armer and sharp spin. We should take him for Asia cup and WT20
 
hur rizvi said:
I rate him more than Gohar as a pure spinner

He has got a great loop, excellent armer and sharp spin. We should take him for Asia cup and WT20
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These tracks are making every single spinner look exceptional. I don't think this one showing does anything
 
From what I have seen so far of all spinners, he has the most potential. Reason being he gives the ball the most rip and extracts the most turn and bounce. While I am nor sure how this translates into performances to date, I remember watching the national one day cup semi and he was troubling YK consistentlly.

Let me put it this way. If I was selecting a spinner for a test match, in Yasir shah absence he is our best option
 
cricfan14 said:
These tracks are making every single spinner look exceptional. I don't think this one showing does anything
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That is correct, its like 4th day test wicket, every left arm spinner is looking good... Even if somebody comes from the crowd and bowl, he will do good too ;-)
 
yasir said:
That is correct, its like 4th day test wicket, every left arm spinner is looking good... Even if somebody comes from the crowd and bowl, he will do good too ;-)
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True but I have seen this kid bowl in domestic cricket a few times and he has looked threatening with turn and bounce on all those occasions. Have no doubt he has the most promise out of everyone
 
Always said he's a far FAR better option than overrated and overhyped Zafar Gohar.

Already looking international class.

There was also a lot who was calling for Bilal Asif to be selected ahead of ASGHAR (remember ZIM tour?)

Quality bowler. Better than Imad/Zafar
 
Was great with the ball, great in the field and did a great job in the presentation ceremony as well :))
 
hur rizvi said:
I rate him more than Gohar as a pure spinner

He has got a great loop, excellent armer and sharp spin. We should take him for Asia cup and WT20
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Zafar looked poor in his only international match and again in PSL.

He bowls a LOT OF boundary balls and can't bowl against lefites either.
 
Both Asghar and Zafar are quality prospects. It's unfair to start labelling either as overhyped or overrated and best just to be patient and see their performances. We're lucky to have some good spinner coming through, hopefully they can establish themselves at the highest level when given the chance.
 
Hawkeye said:
Zafar looked poor in his only international match and again in PSL.

He bowls a LOT OF boundary balls and can't bowl against lefites either.
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Zafar has potential and raw talent with both bat and ball, but needs more practice to perfect his line.

I rate Zafar as a quality prospect too, but at present I like Asghar more.

If Yasir gets banned I would want these two to play in UAE as our spin duo
 
Hawkeye said:
Always said he's a far FAR better option than overrated and overhyped Zafar Gohar.

Already looking international class.

There was also a lot who was calling for Bilal Asif to be selected ahead of ASGHAR (remember ZIM tour?)

Quality bowler. Better than Imad/Zafar
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Zafar is not overhyped, he is also talented and should remain in national reckoning

Imad is not a proper bowler though.
 
Sarfarazian92 said:
He is from Hub in balochistan, but there are a lot of pashtuns in balochistan.
I don't think a baloch has ever played for Pakistan. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Comes from Hub, balochistan, but he is pathan. So technically he is both Baloch and Pathan
 
hur rizvi said:
Zafar is not overhyped, he is also talented and should remain in national reckoning

Imad is not a proper bowler though.
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Zafar is overhyped on this forum. He isn't THAT bad, but some posters do overhype him.

Asghar should be ahead in the pecking order.
 
Hawkeye said:
Zafar is overhyped on this forum. He isn't THAT bad, but some posters do overhype him.

Asghar should be ahead in the pecking order.
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I agree that Asghar should be ahead, but Zafar shouldnt be dropped altogether, he is a talented bowler and we should back him, he has talent to come good.
 
Sarfarazian92 said:
He is from Hub in balochistan, but there are a lot of pashtuns in balochistan.
I don't think a baloch has ever played for Pakistan. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Aftab Baloch played few test matches. Years ago. :)
 
*sallu* said:
True but I have seen this kid bowl in domestic cricket a few times and he has looked threatening with turn and bounce on all those occasions. Have no doubt he has the most promise out of everyone
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He has good height that gives him advantage over others, plus maybe not a terrible fielder...

We definitely need front line spinner in WT20 cup and Asia cup.


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First time I have seen him bowl today and I thought he was quite impressive. Sure, helpful conditions, but I liked the fact that he seemed to get quite a bit of dip and was courageous enough to give plenty of flight to the ball.
 
Really enjoyed watching Asghar- he s gets a lot of revolutions on the ball, loop drift- brilliant fielder also. He s the type of youngster we should be playing our in loc sides. Potentially a match winner.
We won't have the guts to play him - instead we ll go for percentage players like Imad & anwar
 
Asghar looked fantastic, just one match though. Zafar is a great prospect too and doesn't deserve to be put down.

Very impressed with the spinners in our domestic circuit. Yes, the pitches are turning, but the quality is there for all to see.
 
[MENTION=139982]Sarfarazian92[/MENTION]
aftab balouch was born in sind and his father was born in gujrat india so only balouch player who played for pakistan was shoaib khan jr.
 
kingusama92 said:
Asghar looked fantastic, just one match though. Zafar is a great prospect too and doesn't deserve to be put down.

Very impressed with the spinners in our domestic circuit. Yes, the pitches are turning, but the quality is there for all to see.
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Even 2nd and 3rd string pacers like Zia and Rumman are very decent. Batting though has been shambolic
 
here people in Quetta are saying asghar is from chamman or kuchlak.
 
Hawkeye said:
Always said he's a far FAR better option than overrated and overhyped Zafar Gohar.

Already looking international class.

There was also a lot who was calling for Bilal Asif to be selected ahead of ASGHAR (remember ZIM tour?)

Quality bowler. Better than Imad/Zafar
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Zafar needs control but the potential is certainly there. Turns the ball quite a bit. Will be useful atleast in UAE tests IMO. Will get smashed in LOIs since he doesn't really dart the ball in like jadeja.
 
#GreenRoars's
i confirmed from a person in Quetta press .His name is Muhammad asghar achakzai and he is from chaman, not from hub area.
 
Naim said:
#GreenRoars's
i confirmed from a person in Quetta press .His name is Muhammad asghar achakzai and he is from chaman, not from hub area.
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He is a superb talent.

For me he is the best player from Baluchistan and soon he will play test cricket. InshaAllah.
 
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