Mohammad Irfan summoned by ACU after being accused of spot-fixing by Shahzaib Hasan [Update #100]

[MenInG]

PRESS RELEASE

Lahore March 29, 2017: In furtherance to the PCB’s investigation intoviolations of the PCB’s Anti-Corruption Code for Participants 2015 (“the Code”), Mohammad Irfan, Cricketer, was issued a Notice of Charge by the PCB Vigilance and Security Department on 14th March 2017 wherein he was charged with two violations of Article 2.4.4 of the Code. It was alleged that Irfan had, on two occasions, failed to disclose to the PCB Vigilance and Security Department (without unnecessary delay) full details of the approaches and invitations received by him to engage in Corrupt Conduct.

On 23rd March 2017 Irfan approached the PCB to initiate proceedings under Article 5.1.12 of the PCB Code and requested for “Agreed Sanction” a meeting to hold discussions. Resultantly, PCB required Irfan to submit a written statement explaining his version of events; his response to the Notice of Charge; and any mitigating factors that he would like the PCB to consider, and thereafter appear before the PCB Vigilance and Security Department to answer their queries.

Irfan submitted his written statement on 27th March 2017 admitting the charges levelled against him by PCB and appeared for two subsequent meetings with PCB on 27th and 28th March 2017 to properly explain his case.

The following “Agreed Sanction” is being imposed on Irfan:

i. A period of ineligibility of one (01) year shall be imposed on Irfan, six (06) months of which may be suspended on the following additional conditions:

a. That there is no further/additional breach of the PCB Code by Irfan within one (01) year of the commencement of the period of Ineligibility; and no previous breach of the Code by Irfan comes to light. If any such breach(es) take place the PCB shall reserve the right to initiate separate and independent proceedings against Irfan under the Code;

b. Pay to the PCB a fine of PKR. 1,000,000/- (Pakistan Rupees One Million Only;

c. Irfan will provide Substantial Assistance (as described under the Code) to the PCB Vigilance and Security; and


d. Irfan will, over the next six months, participate under the auspices of PCB in programs of Anti- Corruption education, which may include amongst other things, delivering lectures on Anti-Corruption at such places and to such audiences as the PCB Vigilance and Security Department deems fit and appearing in any Anti-Corruption videos.

ii. During the period of ineligibility Irfan’s central contract executed with PCB shall stand suspended and no new contract shall be offered to him.

iii. In accordance with Article 6.4 of the Code, the period of Provisional Suspension imposed by the PCB in accordance with Article 4.7.1 (a) (starting on 14th March 2017, as detailed in the Notice of Charge dated 14th March 2017) shall be credited against the total period of ineligibility to be served.

Mian Shaharyar M. Khan, Chairman PCB and Mr. Najam Sethi, Chairman PSL reiterated that “It is important for all players to take note and be reminded of their responsibilities and obligations under the PCB Anti-Corruption Code and that no form of corrupt activity shall ever be tolerated by PCB.”

 

[Sanzcool]

Good decision; If he can maintain his fitness, he can make a comeback

 

[MenInG]

Mohammad Irfan speaking in presser after announcement

I did not indulge in any corruption but as per pcb code I am ready to face any punishment

I would like to apologise to all people of Pakistan if I have hurt anyone due to this

I am hopeful that you all will forgive me

 

[silent ischemia]

Another let off

 

[ExpressPacer]

Ended the poor guy's career. Can't ever see him back into the team at 35 with his fragile physique.

 

[DRsohail]

Ended the poor guy's career. Can't ever see him back into the team at 35 with his fragile physique.

hi himself did it by not informing pcb...these idiots never learn...

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Good Work by PCB.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

It was alleged that Irfan had, on two occasions, failed to disclose to the PCB Vigilance and Security Department (without unnecessary delay) full details of the approaches and invitations received by him to engage in Corrupt Conduct.

All he had to do was make a phone call or speak to someone in management. How can you just forget to do something like this!

 

[Shafi]

Will Sharjeel get 1 year ban as well?

 

[Major]

So its a 6 month ban.

Good decision, and good punishment

 

[czar]

Hope Sharjeel gets bigger for his Spot fixing.

Atleast 5 years.

 

[Markhor]

Its only 6 months so his career isn't over, if fitness permits he'll play in PSL3.

However I don't see him making the international team again.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Hope Sharjeel gets bigger for his Spot fixing.

Atleast 5 years.

I hope he gets away with it.

 

[Markhor]

Will Sharjeel get 1 year ban as well?

Gotta face the tribunal first.

 

[Square Drive]

This guy has been given a bit of leeway and rightly so due to the circumstances he has been through with regards to his parents.

However, the rest should be given life bans no doubt.

 

[saeed5646]

Will Sharjeel get 1 year ban as well?

no different case .According to PCB he has done what he was told by bookie and that is spot fixing which

could end the career of sharjeel but it all depend on what sort of proofs pcb have and if pcb have not enough

evidence than he may get away with one year ban.also remember irfan admit his crime in first place

which may also help in less punishment

 

[BA56]

Slap on the wrists again. Failed to report approaches twice but only 6 month ban.

 

[saeed5646]

So its a 6 month ban.

Good decision, and good punishment

interesting i have question will misbah select him for next year psl if he is available remember misbah

suggested life time ban for these cricketer who are involved

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Life Ban if the player did take part in Match fixing or Spot Fixing. Not reporting an approach is a lesser offence. No Board can give Life ban for that.

 

[Major]

interesting i have question will misbah select him for next year psl if he is available remember misbah

suggested life time ban for these cricketer who are involved

Misbah suggested that people involved in corruption should be banned for life.

Irfan isnt involved in corruption here. He is guilty of not reporting.

People should not confuse these two things.

 

[shariqnoor]

6 month and 1 million fine is absolutely fair. Irfan never spot-fixed or match-fixed so don't know why people are suggesting to give a life ban to him. Why do we have to resort to extremes in every walk of life? Irfan didn't report the incident for which he should be reprimanded and he has been rightly so. But to suggest to end his career by giving a life ban is preposterous.

Sharjeel on the other hand may have spot-fixed. And if he has, then it would be perfectly justified to give him a life ban. Let's not put Irfan's case in the same basket as Sharjeel's.

 

[IAJ]

He came to the cricketing stage in an unusual way and leaving it in a very bad way (will be very tough to make a comeback though you never know)

 

[Itachi]

Misbah suggested that people involved in corruption should be banned for life.

Irfan isnt involved in corruption here. He is guilty of not reporting.

People should not confuse these two things.

If you see a corruption and yet don't report, you are as guilty as the people doing it. That's the code of conduct in my workplace. And people indeed were sacked even of they weren't getting any benefits.

 

[Black Zero]

Harsh.

3 months ban should have been enough.

 

[saeed5646]

Misbah suggested that people involved in corruption should be banned for life.

Irfan isnt involved in corruption here. He is guilty of not reporting.

People should not confuse these two things.

so why was samuels ban for i think 5 years crime is crime whether it is small or big and remember these

idiot were given regular lecture about each and every thing about fixing

 

[Major]

so why was samuels ban for i think 5 years crime is crime whether it is small or big and remember these

idiot were given regular lecture about each and every thing about fixing

I dont know what samuels did exactly.

This crime did no damage to anyone. You cant classify everything as same.

But this ban will be a big big big lesson for all players

 

[Major]

If you see a corruption and yet don't report, you are as guilty as the people doing it. That's the code of conduct in my workplace. And people indeed were sacked even of they weren't getting any benefits.

He didnt really see corruption. He was approached to do corruption which he said no too.

Yes he was suppose to report, but mistakes happen

If he had been involved in corruption then he should had been life banned.

The punishment he got for his crime is alright.

Anything severe could easily be reversed from appeals or by that court in Switzerland i think.

 

[Sherlock]

Good presser by Irfan. At least he's admitted his guilt in not informing the relevant authorities.

On to the next one...

 

[mumtaz]

The 6 months are from March to September which is really the domestic off-season, so Irfan doesn't miss much.

 

[Rafay Shafiq]

Irfan give lecture for no corruption...why PCB why? Players don't need lecture from convicted...though of hiding contact

 

[Specialisttailender]

People seem to be less worried about their country's reputation than when Irfan will be back on the field. Maybe this is why Pakistani cricketers are continuing to indulge in fixing ?

 

[Rafay Shafiq]

People seem to be less worried about their country's reputation than when Irfan will be back on the field. Maybe this is why Pakistani cricketers are continuing to indulge in fixing ?

Agree

 

[Rana]

A blessing in disguise. This guy's name in the team sheet has to be one of the most depressing sights for Pakistan fans eager to see exciting cricketers.

 

[princeuk]

I feel sorry for him, I'm sure a lot of Pakistanis past and present have done worse but he has been made a scapegoat, catch the real culprits PCB.

 

[wasimjunior]

so why was samuels ban for i think 5 years crime is crime whether it is small or big and remember these

idiot were given regular lecture about each and every thing about fixing

Your arguments are wrong and flawed. Stop posting lies [MENTION=8]MIG[/MENTION] @saj

Samuel's was given a 2 year ban for giving a bookie team info and other details which assisted him. This was in exchange for gifts.

His offence doesn't compare to irfans. In fact- it makes irfans punishment all the more harsh.

You have to remember these bookies are thugs and gangsters with clearly a lot of infiltration- why report and put yourself at danger?

 

[wasimjunior]

People seem to be less worried about their country's reputation than when Irfan will be back on the field. Maybe this is why Pakistani cricketers are continuing to indulge in fixing ?

Maybe because his irfan didn't actually do anything? Should have been given a 3/6 month at most.

 

[saeed5646]

Your arguments are wrong and flawed. Stop posting lies [MENTION=8]MIG[/MENTION] @saj

Samuel's was given a 2 year ban for giving a bookie team info and other details which assisted him. This was in exchange for gifts.

His offence doesn't compare to irfans. In fact- it makes irfans punishment all the more harsh.

You have to remember these bookies are thugs and gangsters with clearly a lot of infiltration- why report and put yourself at danger?

ok could you tell me what is name of the crime in which samuels was found guilty??

 

[wasimjunior]

ok could you tell me what is name of the crime in which samuels was found guilty??

He was charged under conspiring to assist corruption; phone evidence and witnesses were used to gather the information.

Irfan has refused to take part in corruption. It is a very different situation.

 

[Pete Rose]

People should stop trying to spin this. There's a reason why the code calls for punishment on not reporting approaches by bookies.
Meeting a bookie is on the pathway to full fledged corruption. So it's on the same continuum. The reason why he is not banned for life is that he got caught on the earlier part of his pathway to corruption. So for those saying it's not as bad as indulging in match fixing and that he'll be back after six months: they should be thankful he was caught before the act.

 

[Pete Rose]

He was charged under conspiring to assist corruption; phone evidence and witnesses were used to gather the information.

Irfan has refused to take part in corruption. It is a very different situation.

Refused to take part in corruption for now, hence did not report approach by bookie.

 

[wasimjunior]

Refused to take part in corruption for now, hence did not report approach by bookie.

Do we know Irfan met the bookie ? Did he know said person was a bookie? Perhaps he was approached in the hotel , or the guy was a mutual friend.

Those that have followed my posts have repeatedly known i wanted life bans for the trio- but im fully supportive of Irfan here until I see more facts.

These guys are all involved with rings and gangs- reporting approaches has its own downside.

 

[Pete Rose]

Do we know Irfan met the bookie ? Did he know said person was a bookie? Perhaps he was approached in the hotel , or the guy was a mutual friend.

Those that have followed my posts have repeatedly known i wanted life bans for the trio- but im fully supportive of Irfan here until I see more facts.

These guys are all involved with rings and gangs- reporting approaches has its own downside.

Yeah, I sure he tried all that the hearing. And it didn't work out. The facts were sufficient enough for him to be banned. Of course it's national pass time to withhold judgment despite the player admitting his own guilt. Even his defense is moronic.
'I did nothing wrong'
No *****, you did. Thats what we were trying to drill in to you when out you through countless anti corruption classes. Pakistani players and their fantasies.

 

[Syed1]

Has absolutely no effect on Pakistan cricket.

 

[wasimjunior]

Yeah, I sure he tried all that the hearing. And it didn't work out. The facts were sufficient enough for him to be banned. Of course it's national pass time to withhold judgment despite the player admitting his own guilt. Even his defense is moronic.
'I did nothing wrong'
No *****, you did. Thats what we were trying to drill in to you when out you through countless anti corruption classes. Pakistani players and their fantasies.

So now a pcb kangaroo court is enough for you to blindly agree with?

I'm not one for a conspiracy but Sethi wants to come out looking good.

I've not seen anything to suggest irfan was or wasn't going to be involved in corruption.

All I see is he was honest enough to refuse an offer, and stupid enough to not report it.

Is that a crime? Yes

Is it worth being banned for a year when the trio got five for actually doing much worse ? No

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

My sympathies are with Irfan- provisionally because it is often difficult and confusing to report an approach.

No one comes up to you and say "Yo! you wanna be corrupt with me, like?", so you can report it.

A memorable lesson I learnt in B School ethics class is that there is no falling off the cliff moment when you become the bad guy, but a slow progression with many milestones which are often impossible to distinguish. A guy approaches you, becomes your friend, doesn't ask for anything, is generally a nice person, loads you with little favours (nothing monetary, for example gives introductions to job consultants, in the case of touring cricketers provides companionship and sympathy in a foreign land and culture etc) and then one day he does ask for something.

Only is he really asking for anything, because it's never a direct ask at first. Just a light and casual suggestion that can easily pass off as a joke.

So do you report your 'friend' then? For a joke? Hell among our friends we've pretty much run the gamut of bad jokes. Spoil a relationship when its probably nothing? In any case you love your country and you won't betray it, so why bother with unpleasantness, when you've probably misunderstood your 'friend's intentions?

The next time, your 'friend' makes the same 'joke', but this time you're uncomfortable and you brush it off a little abruptly. But at this stage you just want to end the relationship, but don't want trouble so you drop him. But still do not report him.

Congratulations- bY this time you have earned yourself a 1 year ban from your livelihood.

The above is a hypothetical scenario, but variations of this happen all the time, in the sporting world and outside it (this is the classic technique to recruit spies for example).

The solution, obviously, is to report it the first time, but it isn't easy in the real world and most of us would possibly not report it either.

Hence I am provisionally sorry for Irfan. His tragedy is that he may not have done a lot, may have reacted like most of us would, but he's still guilty and deserves punishment.

Other cricketers who were more 'proactive' deserve life bans.

 

[Pete Rose]

My sympathies are with Irfan- provisionally because it is often difficult and confusing to report an approach.

No one comes up to you and say "Yo! you wanna be corrupt with me, like?", so you can report it.

A memorable lesson I learnt in B School ethics class is that there is no falling off the cliff moment when you become the bad guy, but a slow progression with many milestones which are often impossible to distinguish. A guy approaches you, becomes your friend, doesn't ask for anything, is generally a nice person, loads you with little favours (nothing monetary, for example gives introductions to job consultants, in the case of touring cricketers provides companionship and sympathy in a foreign land and culture etc) and then one day he does ask for something.

Only is he really asking for anything, because it's never a direct ask at first. Just a light and casual suggestion that can easily pass off as a joke.

So do you report your 'friend' then? For a joke? Hell among our friends we've pretty much run the gamut of bad jokes. Spoil a relationship when its probably nothing? In any case you love your country and you won't betray it, so why bother with unpleasantness, when you've probably misunderstood your 'friend's intentions?

The next time, your 'friend' makes the same 'joke', but this time you're uncomfortable and you brush it off a little abruptly. But at this stage you just want to end the relationship, but don't want trouble so you drop him. But still do not report him.

Congratulations- bY this time you have earned yourself a 1 year ban from your livelihood.

The above is a hypothetical scenario, but variations of this happen all the time, in the sporting world and outside it (this is the classic technique to recruit spies for example).

The solution, obviously, is to report it the first time, but it isn't easy in the real world and most of us would possibly not report it either.

Hence I am provisionally sorry for Irfan. His tragedy is that he may not have done a lot, may have reacted like most of us would, but he's still guilty and deserves punishment.

Other cricketers who were more 'proactive' deserve life bans.

That's a lot of assumptions without knowing how detailed the anti corruption literature is and goes in to precise detail about how to spot a bookie

 

[Pete Rose]

So now a pcb kangaroo court is enough for you to blindly agree with?

I'm not one for a conspiracy but Sethi wants to come out looking good.

I've not seen anything to suggest irfan was or wasn't going to be involved in corruption.

All I see is he was honest enough to refuse an offer, and stupid enough to not report it.

Is that a crime? Yes

Is it worth being banned for a year when the trio got five for actually doing much worse ? No

This comparison wth others doing far worse is why we are here. He accepted his fault for what can charitably called stupidity. Although I am pretty sure if given the chance it would be far more nefarious.

 

[wasimjunior]

Although I am pretty sure if given the chance it would be far more nefarious.

That's a big assumption without knowing all the facts or any precise details.

See what I did there?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

That's a lot of assumptions without knowing how detailed the anti corruption literature is and goes in to precise detail about how to spot a bookie

It's based on my experience of having worked in the corporate world for over 25 years. For example, US laws were quite comprehensive - and yet they had an Enron, or Bernie Madoff.

This is of course one person's opinion, but I have found that however dense the manual, however detailed the rules, what happens in reality can be a very different thing.

 

[Pete Rose]

That's a big assumption without knowing all the facts or any precise details.

See what I did there?

No not really, when a Pakistani player is involved there is rich history to make assumptions about their guilt as a fan.

 

[Hawkeye]

So now a pcb kangaroo court is enough for you to blindly agree with?

I'm not one for a conspiracy but Sethi wants to come out looking good.

I've not seen anything to suggest irfan was or wasn't going to be involved in corruption.

All I see is he was honest enough to refuse an offer, and stupid enough to not report it.

Is that a crime? Yes

Is it worth being banned for a year when the trio got five for actually doing much worse ? No

That's right.

Matter wasn't handled correctly. Irfan didn't do corruption and he now has this stain over his name because of media/PCB.

He failed to report, which is bad, but not something for which you could be banned for 1+ years.

 

[wasimjunior]

No not really, when a Pakistani player is involved there is rich history to make assumptions about their guilt as a fan.

So you're accusing someone of guilt by association?

So I guess irfan is also probably a terrorist? Or a corner shop owner?

Let's make more racist assumptions. Continue

 

[Pete Rose]

So you're accusing someone of guilt by association?

So I guess irfan is also probably a terrorist? Or a corner shop owner?

Let's make more racist assumptions. Continue

Sure, I can make assumptions, doesn't mean he will be condemned because of them. But what matters objectively and innocently is that despite being given countless trainings on anti corruption measures, he mysteriously decided to keep those approaches to himself until caught.

 

[Pete Rose]

That's right.

Matter wasn't handled correctly. Irfan didn't do corruption and he now has this stain over his name because of media/PCB.

He failed to report, which is bad, but not something for which you could be banned for 1+ years.

But why would a player hide an approach by a bookie: either he is stupid and forgot his anticorruption training or he is corrupt and hoping to cash out later. Either way the ban is pretty fair.

 

[Pakpak]

No not really, when a Pakistani player is involved there is rich history to make assumptions about their guilt as a fan.

But when Pakistanis, a country with a known corrupt and dodgy board for decades, are involved with unidentified foreign trips you ask for evidence when people make assumptions. Yet here its fair to make assumptions as 'a fan' without any evidence. Bravo at the consistency.

 

[Pete Rose]

But when Pakistanis, a country with a known corrupt and dodgy board for decades, are involved with unidentified foreign trips you ask for evidence when people make assumptions. Yet here its fair to make assumptions as 'a fan' without any evidence. Bravo at the consistency.

Surely you know better than that, how many administrators in the pcb have ever been jailed for corruption? On the other hand Pakistani players have cornered the market when it comes to spot fixing or match fixing. On ball tampering they have ceded the ground to South Africans, though.

 

[Pakpak]

Surely you know better than that, how many administrators in the pcb have ever been jailed for corruption? On the other hand Pakistani players have cornered the market when it comes to spot fixing or match fixing. On ball tampering they have ceded the ground to South Africans, though.

There is no chance for the board members to get jailed for corruption, someone as intelligent as you can see that. The members are selected for their political affiliations and in a country where our politicians are let off scot-free with murder, let alone theft, there is no chance of anyone being jailed. Players are an easier target, to present a 'clean-cut' corruption-free image.

 

[Pete Rose]

There is no chance for the board members to get jailed for corruption, someone as intelligent as you can see that. The members are selected for their political affiliations and in a country where our politicians are let off scot-free with murder, let alone theft, there is no chance of anyone being jailed. Players are an easier target, to present a 'clean-cut' corruption-free image.

All this sounds too filmy me to me tbh. But you are welcome to your beliefs.

 

[Pakpak]

All this sounds too filmy me to me tbh. But you are welcome to your beliefs.

One party's top leadership is on bail, the second party has an active ongoing case going on, the third party's leader is exiled to London on murder and corruption charges.

Its the reality of our country, might be filmy to you, but for others its a big problem.

 

[Saj]

I think he's been naive and a bit silly.

I doubt he's in on the fixing, but at the end of the day he should have reported the approaches.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is the minimum prescribed punishment i believe.

 

[Saj]

I would also expect that Irfan for his lighter sentence has come clean and given details of the bookies and other players involved in this episode.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

All this sounds too filmy me to me tbh. But you are welcome to your beliefs.

Why are you even trying?

This is the country which hopes Sharjeel will be forgiven because he has special talent, was ecstatic that Amir was given his way back because he is talented and deserves to live his life, the country that wanted Asif back despite 3 previous misdemenaors because he was the best right arm fast bowler in Pakistan and wanted Salman Butt back because he was good in Australia.

This is the country that wants all allegations to be proven false whether they are true or not, just so Sethi can come out looking like a fool.

So you can forgive them for defending Irfan and trying to make it sound like he was harshly treated.

If it were up to fans, they would declare general amnesty for all fixers.

Because that's what this country has seen all its life.

Common mercy for all those who have looted, plundered and destroyed the country.

Why should they be any different?

 

[wasimjunior]

Why are you even trying?

This is the country which hopes Sharjeel will be forgiven because he has special talent, was ecstatic that Amir was given his way back because he is talented and deserves to live his life, the country that wanted Asif back despite 3 previous misdemenaors because he was the best right arm fast bowler in Pakistan and wanted Salman Butt back because he was good in Australia.

This is the country that wants all allegations to be proven false whether they are true or not, just so Sethi can come out looking like a fool.

So you can forgive them for defending Irfan and trying to make it sound like he was harshly treated.

If it were up to fans, they would declare general amnesty for all fixers.

Because that's what this country has seen all its life.

Common mercy for all those who have looted, plundered and destroyed the country.

Why should they be any different?

You want a tissue? Cute rant.

We can chat when you're done making emotional generalisations about a country of 100mm plus people.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You want a tissue? Cute rant.

We can chat when you're done making emotional generalisations about a country of 100mm plus people.

Let's reverse it.

Who is the one calling the ban on Irfan harsh?

You or me?

I think you're the one needing the tissue.

As for the generalization, that's what happens when most of the people in the country are corrupt and looters and extorters.

The few exceptions who pretend to be pious hardly matter because they are not in enough numbers to make a mass difference.

 

[wasimjunior]

Let's reverse it.

Who is the one calling the ban on Irfan harsh?

You or me?

I think you're the one needing the tissue.

As for the generalization, that's what happens when most of the people in the country are corrupt and looters and extorters.

The few exceptions who pretend to be pious hardly matter because they are not in enough numbers to make a mass difference.

I'm stating facts with my personal opinion.

You're writing essays based on emotional pathetic stereotypes. Again- you want a tissue or are you done crying over looters?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I'm stating facts with my personal opinion.

You're writing essays based on emotional pathetic stereotypes. Again- you want a tissue or are you done crying over looters?

Lol.

All right you got me.

Most of people in Pakistan are really nice but it's the leaders who are at fault.

Lmao.

As for your personal opinion, your personal opinion is probably the reason Pakistan is in mess today as it is.

Forgive people in general.

 

[wasimjunior]

Lol.

All right you got me.

Most of people in Pakistan are really nice but it's the leaders who are at fault.

Lmao.

As for your personal opinion, your personal opinion is probably the reason Pakistan is in mess today as it is.

Forgive people in general.

Apart from the fact that I wanted the trio to be banned for life? And have debated that numerous times on here that i was against amir coming back.

Setting an example and avoiding this situation the exact reason.

But then again- Not like you to stick to any actual facts other than your vivid imagination eh?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Apart from the fact that I wanted the trio to be banned for life? And have debated that numerous times on here that i was against amir coming back.

Setting an example and avoiding this situation the exact reason.

But then again- Not like you to stick to any actual facts other than your vivid imagination eh?

If your personal opinion isn't good enough, then it's not my fault.

You think Irfan should be forgiven based on what?

The guy has been given anti corruption lectures, yet still failed to report.

Let it be example to him.

Why defend the ban and call it harsh?

He was not an 18 year old who made a mistake.

In essence, IF you are not going to punish people for failure to report, then why have a penalty for the crime in the first place?

Are you going to argue the law now?

 

[wasimjunior]

If your personal opinion isn't good enough, then it's not my fault.

You think Irfan should be forgiven based on what?

The guy has been given anti corruption lectures, yet still failed to report.

Let it be example to him.

Why defend the ban and call it harsh?

He was not an 18 year old who made a mistake.

In essence, IF you are not going to punish people for failure to report, then why have a penalty for the crime in the first place?

Are you going to argue the law now?

Precisely my point- irfan is guilty of a crime and must be punished.

It is the length of the punishment, in my humble opinion that is overly harsh and it is the ludicrous assumptions I keep coming across about how he was clearly about to fix which infuriate me.

We have proven match fixers such as Samuel's and Amir getting 2/5 year bans for actually doing the crime for money. Consequently I think a one year ban for failure to report is harsh. Again- you're well within your rights to disagree and I respect that. I felt it was a 3/6 month ban worthy offence. I just feel these prior incidents have set a benchmark in terms of punishment.

My second issue is all I read on this thread from other posters are rumours and generalisations. Because Pakistanis fixed it means irfan was also about to fix? Great logic.

Was he actually meeting the bookies? Was he negotiating a package? We don't know!

We don't know what circumstances he was approached under and we don't know his reasons for not reporting. Maybe everyone is at it and he was fearful of consequences?

Hence the comments I read on here from certain posters are grossly premature.

I understand your point regarding education and lectures but unlike any other player accused of fixing I can put myself in irfans shoes and understand maybe why he didn't report.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Precisely my point- irfan is guilty of a crime and must be punished.

It is the length of the punishment, in my humble opinion that is overly harsh and it is the ludicrous assumptions I keep coming across about how he was clearly about to fix which infuriate me.

We have proven match fixers such as Samuel's and Amir getting 2/5 year bans for actually doing the crime for money. Consequently I think a one year ban for failure to report is harsh. Again- you're well within your rights to disagree and I respect that. I felt it was a 3/6 month ban worthy offence. I just feel these prior incidents have set a benchmark in terms of punishment.

My second issue is all I read on this thread from other posters are rumours and generalisations. Because Pakistanis fixed it means irfan was also about to fix? Great logic.

Was he actually meeting the bookies? Was he negotiating a package? We don't know!

We don't know what circumstances he was approached under and we don't know his reasons for not reporting. Maybe everyone is at it and he was fearful of consequences?

Hence the comments I read on here from certain posters are grossly premature.

I understand your point regarding education and lectures but unlike any other player accused of fixing I can put myself in irfans shoes and understand maybe why he didn't report.

Two points.

One is bolded. Exactly. Prior punishments have not served as a deterrent. Maybe the 1 year ban was too harsh, maybe it wasn't. But I am all for harsher bans to get players to report any corrupt act. I don't want them not to report and maybe later become like Sharjeel who might have actually fixed (if he did).

You have to nip the evil in the bud, even if it is a little harsh as they say.

Secondly, per his claims, he is ready to accept any punishment even though he does NOT BELIEVE HE BROKE ANY PCB code.

Why would an innocent man be ready to accept any form of punishment? Probably because he knows he erred on the side of the law.

When the player has accepted the punishment and its terms, the calls for it to be harsh are really not important points in my honest opinion.

The burning question is really this:

Is the one year ban for not reporting on M. Irfan going to serve as a deterrent for future cricketers of Pakistan? If not, perhaps they should have gone for a 3 year ban. That's my opinion !

 

[Chrish]

PCB's policies are far too relaxed for dealing with issues. Players know they will get away with doing anything after a year of suspension. No wonder it keeps happening

 

[Ph_11]

If it is the first offense then the ban for short duration is fine. Maybe it should be one month with some ethics training. If it is pattern then the ban should be harsh.

 

[Chrish]

If it is the first offense then the ban for short duration is fine.

Sigh.. this is the mindset that has brought the downfall

I doubt any other fans around the globe would agree that punishment for fixing should be anything less than a lifetime ban

 

[Hamza_]

Sigh.. this is the mindset that has brought the downfall

I doubt any other fans around the globe would agree that punishment for fixing should be anything less than a lifetime ban

You think he should have been life banned for a failure to report?

Punishment is fair.

 

[Ph_11]

Sigh.. this is the mindset that has brought the downfall

I doubt any other fans around the globe would agree that punishment for fixing should be anything less than a lifetime ban

I believe in people improving and giving them a chance. It is not about punishing all the time.

 

[Chrish]

You think he should have been life banned for a failure to report?

Punishment is fair.

Fair enough

I believe in people improving and giving them a chance. It is not about punishing all the time.

Don't believe in that nonsense. When players are selected they should be specifically taught about how not to get into trouble and possible consequences if they do. If they proven guilty they should be made example of. Especially in a team where such cases are frequent

 

[msb314]

Fair punishment IMO.

Regardless - if it safe to say that Irfan's career now is pretty much over.

 

[PakLFC]

Doesn't really matter. He is to injury prone for a regular place in the side.

 

[saeedhk]

A blessing in disguise. He was mediocre bowler.