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My word, what a spell, back to back wickets via quality spin bowling :hafeez2. Keep in mind this kid is a batsman first. Completely destroying Afridi's Zalmi atm.

Will be absolute key in this world cup. Defo player to watch out for.

Dnot think people realize how important he will be this world t20.
 
He is definitely got the potential with the bat , bowling wise he is ready for international cricket.
 
Average performer and nothing to be too excited about. As of now, Imad is the better hitter but the lesser bowler.
However, nawaz's bowling on a flat pitch would not be too far ahead. He can be valuable on a turner though, as can be seen today.
 
Beauty to get rid of Hodge, has been the finds of the tournament along with Asghar.
 
He is not an all-rounder as per Mohammad Hafeez his batting needs work
 
Not an allrounder...just a glorified leg side slogger, with pretty much one shot on the leg side.

Decent bowler though on helpful surface...
 
The only quality young cricketers that have surfaced are asghar, hasan and usama(still raw).
The rest are mediocre, with nawaz being the best of that bunch
 
He needs to work on his batting, especially against spin.


A player can improve, steven Smith is a great example.
 
I think his batting is more suited to ODIs than T20s. I feel Imad has more batting talent

He is a much better bowler than Imad though
 
His bowling is miles ahead of Imad. And in batting, there is not a big difference. In fact, Nawaz has more run than latter. So for me, its an easy decision.
 
He is a mediocre batsman , dont see much potential. Does not have instints of a batsman , reads the length late and head all over the place. But he has good control over his bowling.
 
Another MOTM award for him

Nawaz himself said that he isn't preforming well with the bat, and needs to improve
 
JibranAnsari said:
He is a mediocre batsman , dont see much potential. Does not have instints of a batsman , reads the length late and head all over the place. But he has good control over his bowling.
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Too early to write him off, he is young and can learn.
 
Not sure if talking about Pakistan or Gotham. Who's the all-rounder you deserve?
 
JibranAnsari said:
He is a mediocre batsman , dont see much potential. Does not have instints of a batsman , reads the length late and head all over the place. But he has good control over his bowling.
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Lol yeah don't give up on your day job the guy is young can only get better



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asyed said:
This was typical arm chair expert opinion for you. Some fan here are beyond me.
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What are you trying to say? You can ignore my posts if you don't agree with me. I'm saying that it's too early judge someone. Pakistani players usually regresses playing domestic cricket, so should be given chances to play for Pakistan and hopefully the batting coach works with him.
 
His bowling looks very good. A class above Imad. Looks like he could do well in longer formats too. Nawaz and Asghar should be groomed as Zulfis successor. But his batting looks very hackish at international level he can't be an all rounder will get exposed. Looks a very good bowler though.

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shah_1 said:
What are you trying to say? You can ignore my posts if you don't agree with me. I'm saying that it's too early judge someone. Pakistani players usually regresses playing domestic cricket, so should be given chances to play for Pakistan and hopefully the batting coach works with him.
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lol, you didn't get it. I couldn't agree more with you on it.

I said 'This was typical arm chair expert opinion for you.' on your post no 19, where you were quoting Mr. Ansari. So it was for him and not for you.
 
He was impressive, some great deliveries but some top shots as well.
Much better than Imad & anwar.
Anwar s batting today against tait was laughable- trying to pull the ball but getting nowhere near it
 
I've been impressed by him all tournament, looked great from the onset. A far better bowler than the one dimensional Imad, and looks to have more potential with the bat too. He's very good off the back foot, and I think his game is more suited to ODIs. One to look out for, hopefully we see more of his batting in the near future.
 
Mamoon said:
Early to say, needs to be tested more. However, I don't think he is much different to Imad. Perhaps similar level, but no contest with the ball so it is an easy decision.
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At this stage he's probably Imad's level, but I think we'll get a better idea when he plays ODIs. He'll have more of a chance to play his own game rather than trying to smash everything, so we'll get a look into his range of shots, technique, etc.

I personally think he looks superior to Imad with the bat in the long term.
 
Don't know why his batting isn't looking good. He was more of a batsman than the bowler during u19 days and in domestic. I hope his batting will get better with time.
 
Proper bowler

Hack of a batsman. Whoever thinks he is an actual all rounder prolly thinks Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir and Bilawal Bhatti are also proper all rounders because his batting is at same level
 
Slog said:
Proper bowler

Hack of a batsman. Whoever thinks he is an actual all rounder prolly thinks Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir and Bilawal Bhatti are also proper all rounders because his batting is at same level
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Sadly that's the batting talent coming of Pakistan these days...it appears, coaches, academies, and players themselves are teaching and practicing one shot only, leg side slog to the midwicket, regardless of the where the ball pitches...

Not one new player can play a front foot, let a a backfoot driver through the covers or anywhere on the offside with confidence and authority...

Nawaz is going to get exposed big time as a supposed allrounder shortly on the international duty and indian pitches wont' be much help either to his bowling...
 
HaiderAbbasRizvi said:
Sadly that's the batting talent coming of Pakistan these days...it appears, coaches, academies, and players themselves are teaching and practicing one shot only, leg side slog to the midwicket, regardless of the where the ball pitches...

Not one new player can play a front foot, let a a backfoot driver through the covers or anywhere on the offside with confidence and authority...

Nawaz is going to get exposed big time as a supposed allrounder shortly on the international duty and indian pitches wont' be much help either to his bowling...
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Ummm you got that part wrong buddy, Indian pitches are heaven for spinners even Moeen bhai was spinning it square
 
His batting vs spin is a bit shaky. He is a good back foot player against pace though.
 
Batting is the same level as Anwar, Imad and Bhatti. In other words, pathetic.

Bowling is better than all the three. Just a spinner, don't call him an allrounder for heaven's sake.
 
So, if I understand correctly, he is everything that Imad was hyped to be?
 
Think we should wait until he plays international cricket to hype him.

He's a better bowler then Imad because he can turn the ball, I prefer Imad with the bat though. Play both of them in the world cup.
 
Slog said:
Proper bowler

Hack of a batsman. Whoever thinks he is an actual all rounder prolly thinks Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir and Bilawal Bhatti are also proper all rounders because his batting is at same level
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Lolwut? Hack of a batsman? The guy looks like a proper, compact batsman. Give him some time, you can't judge a batsman after a few T20 matches.

And lmao @ his batting is at the same level as Tanvir. :))) [MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION]
 
Hitting six against Wahab who is bowling over 145+, a batsman of Tanvir calibre would dream of playing a shot like that. Another positive I saw of him in PSL is that he has no trouble rotating the strike. He needs to work a lot on his batting but stupid to say he has no potential.

Imad is 28, I don't see him improving but Nawaz can.

I remember Sarfraz was called a tail ender after the test series in SA, such are experts here on PP.
 
Slog said:
Proper bowler

Hack of a batsman. Whoever thinks he is an actual all rounder prolly thinks Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir and Bilawal Bhatti are also proper all rounders because his batting is at same level
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That's a blind Slog.
 
People saying his batting is like Tanvir, Anwar Ali e.t.c from what i have seen, it's not like it. He can hit sixes, he can hit timely four like we have seen. And he can take singles, doubles too.

I don't think he is a hack. Yes, he isn't a proper allrounder, but he can improve much.
 
Why don't we deserve him? Not sure what the title even means.
 
Red Devil said:
Lolwut? Hack of a batsman? The guy looks like a proper, compact batsman. Give him some time, you can't judge a batsman after a few T20 matches.

And lmao @ his batting is at the same level as Tanvir. :))) [MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION]
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TalentSpotterPk said:
That's a blind Slog.
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Don't worry. I'll be right I am sure even though I wish he proves me wrong.

He is not a proper batsman and Will be exposed at international level.

Apart from the technical faults he is severely lacking in temperament in his batting as well. His dismissals such as the one against Wahab in the round robin stage exemplifies that.

Doesn't mean he cannot be a useful player because just getting us wickets and a bonus 10-20 runs at 120+ SR can be great for us. But my advice is Enjoy him till his ticket on hype train is valid for a couple of months.
 
I must say he has impressed me the most in this tournament. Looks one for the future.
 
Slog said:
Don't worry. I'll be right I am sure even though I wish he proves me wrong.

He is not a proper batsman and Will be exposed at international level.

Apart from the technical faults he is severely lacking in temperament in his batting as well. His dismissals such as the one against Wahab in the round robin stage exemplifies that.

Doesn't mean he cannot be a useful player because just getting us wickets and a bonus 10-20 runs at 120+ SR can be great for us. But my advice is Enjoy him till his ticket on hype train is valid for a couple of months.
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Though Nawaz needs lots of improvement in his temperament , shot selection and his batting against Spin but what I was pointing out to was you comparing his batting skills with Sohail Tanveer , Anwar Ali & Bilawal Bhatti.

I do not agree that he is comparable with them as a batsman. His short range is much vast than those players and when he used his brain and keeps his temperament in check than he plays quality cricketing shots unlike Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir & Bilawal Bhatti who all look like tailenders slogging eveb when they hit fours and sixes.

Nawaz needs to improve his many shortcomings as a batsman but no way he is comparable with those you mentioned.
 
Seriously there are people complaining about Nawaz's batting? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION]

Nawaz in every facet is >>>>>>> Imad
 
Only in Pakistan the guy who scores an unbeaten 187 just a few games back is called a tailender batsman :facepalm:

Geniuses here have some mythical or supernatural eye glass from which they can determine a batsman's abilities after just 3-4 games.
 
Call me when this dude plays a cover drive...

Has only one shot, a legside slog...

Mark my words, he gonna get exposed big time on international duty...
 
cricfan14 said:
Seriously there are people complaining about Nawaz's batting? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION]

Nawaz in every facet is >>>>>>> Imad
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His bowling is better and both have no potential with the bat , not all rounders by any strech of imagination. Number 8 9 players.
 
cricfan14 said:
Nawaz deserves his selection based on this tournament. Imad does not. I'm not sure how you argue that?
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Fc average of imad is around 40 so as a batsmen he has been selected on merit ... however during PSL he has been below average with both bat and ball ...
 
Red Devil said:
Lolwut? Hack of a batsman? The guy looks like a proper, compact batsman. Give him some time, you can't judge a batsman after a few T20 matches.

And lmao @ his batting is at the same level as Tanvir. :))) [MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION]
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Was thinking the same thing, people already calling him names for batting on the back of a fun cricket tournament... lol

He scored a solid 187 and has good numbers with the bat for a batting AR.

Hope he delivers and proves da haters wrong with the bat.
 
Ar7alan said:
Fc average of imad is around 40 so as a batsmen he has been selected on merit ... however during PSL he has been below average with both bat and ball ...
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Imad's List A average is below 30 and his T20 average is in the low 20s, he's never scored a century in LOIs. Not sure how he's in the team as a batsman in merit....
 
JibranAnsari said:
His bowling is better and both have no potential with the bat , not all rounders by any strech of imagination. Number 8 9 players.
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Being too judgemental way to early,

Nawaz bats in the top of the order in first class and has a comparable record to Azhar Ali, plus he players departmental cricket unless Imad who just plays regional and doesn't go out of his comfort zone. Plus nawaz hit 187 in a list A game.

He does have potenial with the bat
 
Ar7alan said:
Fc average of imad is around 40 so as a batsmen he has been selected on merit ... however during PSL he has been below average with both bat and ball ...
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Imad only plays regional cricket where half the players are crap or the relatives of local politicians. The standard is much lower then departmental cricket where Nawaz plays
 
hussain.r97 said:
Imad's List A average is below 30 and his T20 average is in the low 20s, he's never scored a century in LOIs. Not sure how he's in the team as a batsman in merit....
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Imad is by definition a hack- hit or miss batsmen, flat bowler who can give 2-3 overs...

thats not a terrible thing in T20 cricket if you're performing, but Imad isn't- hopefully he has a short leash
 
Currently hes just ahead / on par with Anwar and Tanvir but the guy has the potential to become geniune international level batsmen.
 
Will he be a man of his word and hit a six off Jadeja tomorrow like he promised?

Join us tomorrow and find out.

If he can't do it then he will show to be a dishonest character.
 
shah_1 said:
Hitting six against Wahab who is bowling over 145+, a batsman of Tanvir calibre would dream of playing a shot like that. Another positive I saw of him in PSL is that he has no trouble rotating the strike. He needs to work a lot on his batting but stupid to say he has no potential.

Imad is 28, I don't see him improving but Nawaz can.

I remember Sarfraz was called a tail ender after the test series in SA, such are experts here on PP.
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Regarding the bold bit they werent wrong. Atleasta against pace
 
Lol said it before, this is not a specialist spinner, he's an allrounder and for odis mainly. His main suit was always batting.

PCB as usual using a knife to eat soup with rather than using it to cut a steak.

iA he delivers with bat.
 
Looked lack lustre so far !

Was darting than looking to take wickets !

Will need to absorb pressure and play to his strength !
 
It's stupid to expect wonders from Nawaz and Imad. You need at the least one specialist spinner in there. We already have an allrounder (sort of) in Afridi. Malik is also there but he doesn't really bowl much.

When will we understand? Pak needs to draft in Asghar asap. He will complete our bowling attack. Our pacers are pretty decent and the only thing lacking in the Asia cup was a genuine spinner.
 
He is a bit like Imad wasim... will do really well against Zimbabwe and may be associates but darts dont work with good batsman of spin bowling...
 
You need to give him time and confidence he will come good...just need to give confidence ...
 
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