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Mohammad Rizwan fasting during tour of South Africa and Zimbabwe

moghul said:
He should have his priority set, if he does not want to skip fasting, he should not play, simple is that .

No one can give his 100% while fasting and he is paid to give his 100% on match day.
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I'd like to see where you get your figures from. It's pointless to state things without evidence to back it.

I don't think we should be looking to rationalize if Fasting has benefits in performance or has adverse effects, since it is an obligation on all able Muslims, and that's where that argument should end.

Howver even if it does have a slight impact on raw physical performance, the massive mental boost you get when you're satisfied that you do have the mental rigour to commit more than makes up for it.

Also, are you of the opinion that if you're not absolutely a 100% fit-and-firing for the team, you shouldn't be playing? If that were to be followed, only a couple of players would actually end up playing. We'd miss many of those Inzamam (SF) and Fakhar (Final) type innings where they persevered.
 
Shah said:
I hear what you are saying.
Why not give a fasting player the option to tell management that he cannot play as he is fasting? This will give other players a chance.

It is ok if you are a programmer or an accountant working from home to fast as your performance does not affect the whole nation. However, if you are a national team player and 220 million people are depending upon you to perform, then it changes the scenario a bit.
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From what I read, there is no need for this option as those fasting are not doing it secretly. Everyone knows who is fasting and if it concerns someone in management then they have the option to talk to the player.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
I'd like to see where you get your figures from. It's pointless to state things without evidence to back it.

I don't think we should be looking to rationalize if Fasting has benefits in performance or has adverse effects, since it is an obligation on all able Muslims, and that's where that argument should end.

Howver even if it does have a slight impact on raw physical performance, the massive mental boost you get when you're satisfied that you do have the mental rigour to commit more than makes up for it.

Also, are you of the opinion that if you're not absolutely a 100% fit-and-firing for the team, you shouldn't be playing? If that were to be followed, only a couple of players would actually end up playing. We'd miss many of those Inzamam (SF) and Fakhar (Final) type innings where they persevered.
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Two things

1-Islam is the religion for all seasons and all occasions and there is clear cut option to skip fasting when you're away from home, travelling and make it up later.

2-Rizwan is not superman , who can play with same intensity when dehydrated . He has a physically demanding job, more than anyone else in 11, keeping wickets and a frontline batsman and he is paid for that. This is a bit of cheating on his part ( unintentionally ) not giving his 100% and being paid 100% .

T20 may be not that tough , but one cannot play test matches all day while fasting .

I believe in science. He will also put himself at risk for dehydration induced health issues , kidney problem and electrolyte abnormalities .
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Rizwan:<br><br>Fasting during 3rd T20I v S Africa ✅<br>Fasting during 4th T20I v S Africa ✅<br>Fasting during 1st T20I v Zimbabwe ✅<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ramadan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ramadan</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1384923630342230019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2021</a></blockquote>
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I asked him about his fasting.

He confirmed that he has been fasting every day in Ramadan and hopes to fast throughout Ramadan, even when matches are being played.
 
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You have to admire his fitness
and stamina , could anyone say he looked low on energy while batting out there looking for every single , converting many into two where he could have taken it easy and conserved energy.

Even greater batsmen with lower fitness levels like Inzamam and Saeed Anwar back in 90s would start conserving energy when they reached their 50s , avoiding running singles or twos as much as they could, to have enough energy to get to their 100s.

And Rizwan did this while fasting while others couldn’t match in stamina ,even when they were not fasting.
 
Not a fan of people fasting during sports. Well you should take a break and then do your religious activities. There could be time when he may be needed an energy drink but he won't since he is fasting that will definitely have impact on his performance as well as team.
 
If he wasn't scoring runs I'd have a problem with it, because if you want to fast you can stay home.

However, it doesn't seem to be hampering his performance. If he can keep up with the pace of the game then its his own personal decision.
 
I dont know why we are always organising matches during Ramadhan

If it's not international cricket then it's some silly domestic T20 tournament

Why cant we just give cricket a break and allow players to observe Ramadhan properly? Its only one month in a year!
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
I dont know why we are always organising matches during Ramadhan

If it's not international cricket then it's some silly domestic T20 tournament

Why cant we just give cricket a break and allow players to observe Ramadhan properly? Its only one month in a year!
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Well said we are the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the PCB should not agree to any tours in Ramadan
 
Superman of Pakistan cricket - he can do whatever he wants because he keeps making us win!
 
It is fine for T20s but for tests it can be a little too hard even with his fitness, and just wish it doesn't harm him or his performance in any way.
 
Zeshan547 said:
It is fine for T20s but for tests it can be a little too hard even with his fitness, and just wish it doesn't harm him or his performance in any way.
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He should not be allowed to play a test match if he insists that he is going to fast in it.
 
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Islam allows travellers to take a break from fasting. So Rizwan would have been justified to fast later without risking his health and the team's performance.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
I dont know why we are always organising matches during Ramadhan

If it's not international cricket then it's some silly domestic T20 tournament

Why cant we just give cricket a break and allow players to observe Ramadhan properly? Its only one month in a year!
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That's the point. PCB officials will be the sinners here. They will have to answer the question.
 
Majid Khan said:
You have to admire his fitness
and stamina , could anyone say he looked low on energy while batting out there looking for every single , converting many into two where he could have taken it easy and conserved energy.

Even greater batsmen with lower fitness levels like Inzamam and Saeed Anwar back in 90s would start conserving energy when they reached their 50s , avoiding running singles or twos as much as they could, to have enough energy to get to their 100s.

And Rizwan did this while fasting while others couldn’t match in stamina ,even when they were not fasting.
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MK I was just amazed at the athleticism and stamina of the guy.

Running those 2s will have taken it out of any cricketer, more so out of someone fasting.

We are watching a supreme athlete, an excellent cricketer and someone who is a joy to watch.
 
In future no tours should be organised by PCB.I know sometimes schedules are tight but Zimbabwe tour could have been arranged at another time.
 
Artaxerxes said:
In future no tours should be organised by PCB.I know sometimes schedules are tight but Zimbabwe tour could have been arranged at another time.
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Its not always possible to pick n choose when to play
You also have the IPL taking 6 weeks out of the windown every year as well as other boards prime summer slots

Pakistan isnt india that it can dictate to others when it will play n when it wont

It already doesnt play as much as other teams
 
Fittest player in the squad, followed by Fakhar. Both are the most mentally strong, too.
 
I think because of Ramzan he should be rested for the Test series. He deserves to a rest, should come back to Pakistan.
 
He has improved so much so that we have found a reliable WKB in the team that we have needed since Sarfi's from drop off. Babar is Mr. Reliable and Rizwan is quickly becoming another one.
 
Shah said:
Islam allows travellers to take a break from fasting. So Rizwan would have been justified to fast later without risking his health and the team's performance.
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Correct, but that period of being a traveler is also limited to a certain amount of days. Since they are staying in one town (Harare) for more than those certain amount of days, they are not regarded as travelers anymore. Perhaps this is the reason Rizwan decided to fast, considering his strong religious character from post match presentations, etc.
 
Sent Rizwan a congratulations message for his performance in the 3rd T20I versus Zimbabwe and his response was as usual very humble.

Normally I wouldn't share details of private messages, but this just gives people an example of what Rizwan is about. His response was along the lines of "I am nothing without the Almighty. It is due to His blessings that I am something. I am just a mere human who is irrelevant without the blessings of the Almighty"
 
Related to fasting in professional sport:

Leicester City defender Wesley Fofana has thanked the Premier League, Crystal Palace and keeper Vicente Guaita for allowing him to break his Ramadan fast during the game against the Eagles.

During Ramadan many Muslims abstain from food and drink in daylight hours.

Eagles keeper Guaita waited to take a goal-kick just after the half-hour mark in the evening game against the Foxes.

The pause in play allowed Fofana to take in some liquids on the touchline before returning to play.

The short delay for when there was a natural break in play was agreed in the captain's meeting prior to the game and Fofana said "that's what makes football wonderful" in a social media post.

Fofana played the whole game as Leicester beat Palace 2-1 but he came off after 61 minutes in the previous game against West Brom, which the Foxes won 3-0.

Prior to that, he had played all of the game when Leicester beat Southampton 1-0 in their FA Cup semi-final.

"He's a young player in the middle of Ramadan so he's obviously not eating during the day," said Leicester boss Brendan Rodgers on Friday.

"I think it's absolutely remarkable. If you think of his performance at the weekend in an FA Cup semi-final, when he hasn't eaten all day, and then he had his first taste of food (later on).

"It was the same against West Brom, with the 8pm kick-off, he's not eaten or drank and he can still perform to that level.

"It [West Brom] was just one where I thought I could get him off and he could get some food into him on the bench and just protect him a little bit.

"I work with lots of players who have similar devotion to their faith and I think, for a lot of the guys, it gives them strength."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56902401
 
He has exceptional stamina, fitness and mental strength so he managed to do well in the shortest format but I think his performance will take hit in the test match. He can make 150+ or 200+ runs against Zimbabwe but I fear he will make quick 60 some thing runs and then he will get out.

It is also noticeable that his two zeroes and 15 runs in t20s against SA and Zimbabwe, were in the second innings when he was in more tired state than one would be in the first inning.
 
Muhammad Kaleem said:
He has exceptional stamina, fitness and mental strength so he managed to do well in the shortest format but I think his performance will take hit in the test match. He can make 150+ or 200+ runs against Zimbabwe but I fear he will make quick 60 some thing runs and then he will get out.

It is also noticeable that his two zeroes and 15 runs in t20s against SA and Zimbabwe, were in the second innings when he was in more tired state than one would be in the first inning.
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It's actually the keeping part which is harder to do for 90 odd overs with fasting.
 
I completely agree with [MENTION=154193]Muhammad Kaleem[/MENTION]. Human bodies are not supposed to work efficiently without the comsumption of food and water for the longer periods of time. It does not matter how fit he is, if he tries to play test cricket while fasting, then I am sure that he will push his muscles to the point where he might experience an injury.
 
Saj said:
Sent Rizwan a congratulations message for his performance in the 3rd T20I versus Zimbabwe and his response was as usual very humble.

Normally I wouldn't share details of private messages, but this just gives people an example of what Rizwan is about. His response was along the lines of "I am nothing without the Almighty. It is due to His blessings that I am something. I am just a mere human who is irrelevant without the blessings of the Almighty"
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SubhanAllah!!! Amazing human being and very humble.
 
And he was fasting again today during the 1st Day of the 1st Test vs Zimbabwe!
 
moghul said:
Two things

1-Islam is the religion for all seasons and all occasions and there is clear cut option to skip fasting when you're away from home, travelling and make it up later.
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Hardly anyone in Pakistan follows religion in its true spirit and we've seen how rigid and intolerant the society has become over the recent past with anything that involves religion. Many, even on this platform, get triggered even at the slightest hint of disagreement on religious topics.

As you said, there are many flexibilites that Islam provides, including those around fasting, but many would disregard those just to show how devoted and better than others they are.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
I dont know why we are always organising matches during Ramadhan

If it's not international cricket then it's some silly domestic T20 tournament

Why cant we just give cricket a break and allow players to observe Ramadhan properly? Its only one month in a year!
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You do realize that Pakistan doesn't run world cricket, right? Schedules are made at the ICC level and most, if not all, of the other boards wouldn't care even in the slightest about Ramzan and adjust scheduling accordingly.

Also, cricket is a profession. PCB earns money through tours and in return pays the players their salaries. If the players expect to be paid during Ramzan, they should also expect to work during Ramzan.
 
The guy is a genuine world beater who we are extremely lucky to have amongst half the dross we have in the team atm.
 
Is he fasting today? He looks already tired and lack of energy. This is why I am not fan of players fasting during international games. This looks like selfish when it actually affects your game.
 
MRSN said:
Is he fasting today? He looks already tired and lack of energy. This is why I am not fan of players fasting during international games. This looks like selfish when it actually affects your game.
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Relax it’s a test match he’s just taking his time, seems just as proactive as the rest of the team.
 
It's a selfish decision of not giving your 100% for the team. Rizwan should take a break from Cricket during this period if he wants to fast rather than hurt the teams chances with his inefficiency.
 
hafeezrocks said:
It's a selfish decision of not giving your 100% for the team. Rizwan should take a break from Cricket during this period if he wants to fast rather than hurt the teams chances with his inefficiency.
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I agree. Big fan of him but this is 100% selfieh. He is huffing and puffing while running between the wickets. In fact Fawad is forcing him for 2nd run when there is an obvious two. He looks painful like he has some injury. If you want to fast then that's fine. Take rest so it does not affect your team. I would hope PCB rest him in the 2nd test.
 
silentkiller187 said:
Relax it’s a test match he’s just taking his time, seems just as proactive as the rest of the team.
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It sets bad precedent for your team. What happens when all the players start fasting or what happens when some people fans of other 10 players judge faith of those not fasting. It is ok to fast during games but making your habbit and telling everyone is not cool. Not eating or drinking for 14 hours doing nothing affects you and what happens when you have to perform at international level. I am sorry but Rizwan should be rested.
 
MRSN said:
It sets bad precedent for your team. What happens when all the players start fasting or what happens when some people fans of other 10 players judge faith of those not fasting. It is ok to fast during games but making your habbit and telling everyone is not cool. Not eating or drinking for 14 hours doing nothing affects you and what happens when you have to perform at international level. I am sorry but Rizwan should be rested.
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Exactly what is it to you? Has Pakistan lost a game because he has been fasting?

Its his personal choice - leave it at that. Please.
 
MRSN said:
It sets bad precedent for your team. What happens when all the players start fasting or what happens when some people fans of other 10 players judge faith of those not fasting. It is ok to fast during games but making your habbit and telling everyone is not cool. Not eating or drinking for 14 hours doing nothing affects you and what happens when you have to perform at international level. I am sorry but Rizwan should be rested.
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It’s not that deep, players from all sports embrace fasting, the other day a premiership football match was stopped halfway through so players could open their fast. Football is a lot more taxing then cricket especially when fasting, those players actually received a lot of praise from other fans. It’s an individual choice, if it starts affecting performance fair enough but rizwan recent performances show it has had a positive effect on him.
 
MRSN said:
What happens when all the players start fasting or what happens when some people fans of other 10 players judge faith of those not fasting.
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I saw some tweets in which people were shaming Babar Azam for drinking water in front of Rizwan during t20s.
 
MenInG said:
Exactly what is it to you? Has Pakistan lost a game because he has been fasting?

Its his personal choice - leave it at that. Please.
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It is not a personal choice if it affects his game. We could see the moment he arrived he looked tired and didn't have energy to run for a double. He was leaving balls that could have easily dispatched for boundaries because he didn't have enough energy.
 
Muhammad Kaleem said:
I saw some tweets in which people were shaming Babar Azam for drinking water in front of Rizwan during t20s.
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That is exactly what I meant. If one player makes a habbit and publicise it then it forces other players to follow the same as our society is quick to judge.
 
MRSN said:
I agree. Big fan of him but this is 100% selfieh. He is huffing and puffing while running between the wickets. In fact Fawad is forcing him for 2nd run when there is an obvious two. He looks painful like he has some injury. If you want to fast then that's fine. Take rest so it does not affect your team. I would hope PCB rest him in the 2nd test.
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Incredible how disrespectful this post is.
 
MRSN said:
It is not a personal choice if it affects his game. We could see the moment he arrived he looked tired and didn't have energy to run for a double. He was leaving balls that could have easily dispatched for boundaries because he didn't have enough energy.
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Which part of his game is effected?

Playing with decent strike rate for a Test match, has hit 4 fours.

I feel people's own prejudices are being projected on someone who is doing a duty to his Almighty - you and I dont figure in that equation.
 
MRSN said:
It sets bad precedent for your team. What happens when all the players start fasting or what happens when some people fans of other 10 players judge faith of those not fasting. It is ok to fast during games but making your habbit and telling everyone is not cool. Not eating or drinking for 14 hours doing nothing affects you and what happens when you have to perform at international level. I am sorry but Rizwan should be rested.
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He is doing better than the non fasting Babar and Azhar. I’m just shocked that people have the gall to make comments like these about a player who has been carrying our team on his shoulders for the last 6 months.

Even while fasting, he has won us multiple T20s in both SA and Zimbabwe - and is putting up a fine effort out there right now. Your time and effort is better directed elsewhere.
 
MRSN said:
That is exactly what I meant. If one player makes a habbit and publicise it then it forces other players to follow the same as our society is quick to judge.
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I agree that the society is quick to judge but, then why is Rizwan being judged for his personal choice? He has been faster than most other players in the XI in between the wickets, he has scored the most runs and on top of that he is keeping as well. If he is doing his job perfectly I am not sure if it should be an issue.

I havent noticed him being slow or anything, I think people are looking at him from magnifying glass view because he is fasting and are trying to nitpick things.

Again this is just my opinion and its a sensitive issue. However, I dont think anybody should be judged on his personal choice. If he doesnt perform and his career goes side ways, it will impact him more than anyone else so if he is willing to make that choice and is confident he can perform than it is fine by me.

Peter Siddle became a vegetarian during his playing career, some Pakistani or Indian players might be eating junk food on tours, players drinking and smoking and what not and there can be numerous lifestyle related things which can in the end potentially impact their games and fitness. I dont see them being judged because because all these things are considered their personally choices and if any of that thing makes them struggle at their game or fitness they will obviously be out of the team.

Secondly, its wasnt Rizwan who made it public and someone who did was just doing him to praise him in general (Yes one can argue if it should have been made public). There are many other lifestyle things related to players which can potentially be impacting their game and we dont even know and thus they are not judged upon that.
 
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Non-fasting Rizwan would have made at least a century here.

Keeping fast during the match is not some one's personal business just like drinking alcohol during drink breaks is not some one's personal business.
 
Why is only Rizwan making news for fasting since the start of the SA tour ? Are the other players not fasting ? I guess the Fast bowlers definitely aren't fasting, right ?
 
MRSN said:
The shot he got out to was extremely a lazy shot.
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Completely irrational and reeking prejudice. Amazed that he is getting this trolling even after 45. Imagine what would have happened if he just matched the performance of of more than half of the team including captain.
 
wajid said:
Completely irrational and reeking prejudice. Amazed that he is getting this trolling even after 45. Imagine what would have happened if he just matched the performance of of more than half of the team including captain.
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It was indeed a shot of a tired man. 45 out of 106 balls, thats not the usual Muhammad Rizwan. Fawad Alam is usually slower than Rizwan but today he played with strike rate of 69.68 so non-fasting Rizwan would have played with strike rate of 70+.

Fasting during the test match should not be encouraged and glorified. Keeping beard or doing sajda or thanking Allah or praying salah during the break is fine because it does not dampen the performance but fasting is a different matter. Even very religious cricketer like Hashim Amla did not fast during test matches : -

"Because I'm travelling away from home I don't have to fast," he said. "So I haven't been fasting. But I will make it up when I get home." https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jul/22/hashim-amla-record-south-africa
 
All the haters are out in full flow due to rizwan fasting.

I hope he continues to fast and play for Pakistan.
 
shamaan said:
All the haters are out in full flow due to rizwan fasting.

I hope he continues to fast and play for Pakistan.
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Not sure what is wrong in saying that he should not be fasting and playing cricket for Pakistan at the same time. I believe haters have a good understanding of how this game should be played and the science behind all this. Absolutely nothing wrong with him fasting during this holy month of Ramadan as nobody should come in between him and how he goes about following his religion, but then our mgmt should have a sense to save his body and ask him to rest for the next couple of weeks and Rizwan himself shoud understand that he won't be able to give his 100% while fasting, so better to tell your team mgmt to rest you for these test matches.
 
Titan24 said:
I agree that the society is quick to judge but, then why is Rizwan being judged for his personal choice? He has been faster than most other players in the XI in between the wickets, he has scored the most runs and on top of that he is keeping as well. If he is doing his job perfectly I am not sure if it should be an issue.

I havent noticed him being slow or anything, I think people are looking at him from magnifying glass view because he is fasting and are trying to nitpick things.

Again this is just my opinion and its a sensitive issue. However, I dont think anybody should be judged on his personal choice. If he doesnt perform and his career goes side ways, it will impact him more than anyone else so if he is willing to make that choice and is confident he can perform than it is fine by me.

Peter Siddle became a vegetarian during his playing career, some Pakistani or Indian players might be eating junk food on tours, players drinking and smoking and what not and there can be numerous lifestyle related things which can in the end potentially impact their games and fitness. I dont see them being judged because because all these things are considered their personally choices and if any of that thing makes them struggle at their game or fitness they will obviously be out of the team.

Secondly, its wasnt Rizwan who made it public and someone who did was just doing him to praise him in general (Yes one can argue if it should have been made public). There are many other lifestyle things related to players which can potentially be impacting their game and we dont even know and thus they are not judged upon that.
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If you think Rizwan was fully fit then you must have not seen today's play. He was not taking quick singles. In fact there was time when he denied Fawad 2nd run even though Fawad had run half way for the 2ns run and then looked at Rizwan and went back because he was not finished making his first run. Fawad was also shocked to see that. We are all because he is normally a very good athelete.
 
Caved12 said:
Not sure what is wrong in saying that he should not be fasting and playing cricket for Pakistan at the same time. I believe haters have a good understanding of how this game should be played and the science behind all this. Absolutely nothing wrong with him fasting during this holy month of Ramadan as nobody should come in between him and how he goes about following his religion, but then our mgmt should have a sense to save his body and ask him to rest for the next couple of weeks and Rizwan himself shoud understand that he won't be able to give his 100% while fasting, so better to tell your team mgmt to rest you for these test matches.
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How it's played like pogba is fasting,karim benzene,hashim amla that's only a few examples.what if he refuses to rest then what.fasting increases your mental strength something than we can tell with rizwan.
 
Snowflake said:
You do realize that Pakistan doesn't run world cricket, right? Schedules are made at the ICC level and most, if not all, of the other boards wouldn't care even in the slightest about Ramzan and adjust scheduling accordingly.

Also, cricket is a profession. PCB earns money through tours and in return pays the players their salaries. If the players expect to be paid during Ramzan, they should also expect to work during Ramzan.
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What are you talking about? This series has been arranged by PCB. Nothing to do with ICC. Its pure greed.

Your post stinks of secularism which is a cancer to Pakistan.
 
I don't know man

Fasting in a test match is a bit extreme...
 
Problem with all this fuss is that any mistake he makes will be seen as one due to him fasting

Very sad state of affairs.
 
shamaan said:
How it's played like pogba is fasting,karim benzene,hashim amla that's only a few examples.what if he refuses to rest then what.fasting increases your mental strength something than we can tell with rizwan.
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What if he refuses to rest? Not his decison to make as he is just a player and not bigger than his team.

Fasting increases mental strength? Not possible scientifically speaking.
 
I've had confirmation that he was fasting again today.
 
I agree with people who are saying he should be rested if he wants to fast. Test cricket is far more demanding on the body than Twenty20. No player should have to play when he can’t perform at his very best. A score of 45 is not good enough in Test cricket.
 
Shazzam said:
I agree with people who are saying he should be rested if he wants to fast. Test cricket is far more demanding on the body than Twenty20. No player should have to play when he can’t perform at his very best. A score of 45 is not good enough in Test cricket.
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Has Rizwan spoken to anyone about it? Has he complained? Has the Pakistan management complained?
 
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