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Mohammad Rizwan has done more in one series with the bat than Sarfaraz Ahmed has in two years

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This is the harsh true. Surely Sarfraz career is dead and buried now after this performance by Rizwan. He may not be a world beater but he is certainly better than the unfit and ungainly Sarfraz who looks like a club cricketer next to Sarfraz.
 
I refuse to judge him on the UAE pitches.

Especially when he was more interested in getting his 100, than winning the game.

And no, I quite don't support Sarfraz either.
 
Loralai said:
This is the harsh true. Surely Sarfraz career is dead and buried now after this performance by Rizwan. He may not be a world beater but he is certainly better than the unfit and ungainly Sarfraz who looks like a club cricketer next to Sarfraz.
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Lol, do you even know why our spinners were effective? Hint: Look what Dhoni brings to Indian team and performance of hacks like Jadhav
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I refuse to judge him on the UAE pitches.

Especially when he was more interested in getting his 100, than winning the game.

And no, I quite don't support Sarfraz either.
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I didn't think he was more interested in his century. He barely seemed to celebrate it.
 
Wrong comparison here
Sarfraz has played at 6 or 7 since he became captain
Check Rizwan batting at those position
Sarfraz batting as opener and at 4 or 5 has done immensely well has a ton in lords at that position
Was best batsmen on that England tour

So comparison is wrong . Also plays at better strike rate
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I refuse to judge him on the UAE pitches.

Especially when he was more interested in getting his 100, than winning the game.

And no, I quite don't support Sarfraz either.
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That's crap did u actually watch. Took 17 balls to go from 80 to 100.
Blame lies today with umer and Imad ( should have come earlier)
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I refuse to judge him on the UAE pitches.

Especially when he was more interested in getting his 100, than winning the game.

And no, I quite don't support Sarfraz either.
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Also we needed 25 off last 18 when he got his hundred. So there was no need to play big shots before then ( like umer tried)

You can do 9 an over with good hard running for 2 -3 overs
 
I think you missed the two dropped catches by Rizwan that made the target that high in the first place.



Lovely seeing people's Sarfaraz hate coming to the fore even though he isn't even playing.


Sarfaraz will remain captain till end of WC karlo jo karna hai
 
I have to agree. Rizwan would be my pick ahead of sarfraz and imad as captain but this won't happen.
 
Syed1 said:
I think you missed the two dropped catches by Rizwan that made the target that high in the first place.



Lovely seeing people's Sarfaraz hate coming to the fore even though he isn't even playing.


Sarfaraz will remain captain till end of WC karlo jo karna hai
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But he has batter far better than sarfraz. Far far better.
 
2 centuries look good but both in losing causes today was more Haris and others fault but still the team lost.
 
The captain cant be changed now as the world cup is a month away, and its never a good decision to change the captain before the world cup.

So now it depends how he will perform in the world cup.

But it is a fact that as a batsmen, Sarfraz is terrible. People can argue that he is a keeper 1st and all, but the reason why Sarfraz got into the team and was made captain was because of his batting.

During Azhar Ali's captaincy, Rizwan was also competing for the keeper spot but Sarfraz got the edge because of his batting.

Avging 31 in todays cricket is a joke. He also bats very low and we end up losing quite alot of matches because he cant score runs to even save his own life. Its a fact that the only reason he is in the team is because of the captaincy.

Maybe after the world cup they could drop Sarfraz and replace him with Rizwan, who has scored 2 centuries now.
 
Abdullah said:
Also we needed 25 off last 18 when he got his hundred. So there was no need to play big shots before then ( like umer tried)

You can do 9 an over with good hard running for 2 -3 overs
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Yeah sure no need of hitting big when you can play dots or take singles to ensure that you get that daddy hundred.When you are done,just give the fielder some catching practice.Who cares about finishing the match when you have already done enough to secure the world cup spot?
 
Loralai said:
This is the harsh true. Surely Sarfraz career is dead and buried now after this performance by Rizwan. He may not be a world beater but he is certainly better than the unfit and ungainly Sarfraz who looks like a club cricketer next to Sarfraz.
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Absolutely right scoring 100s in losing cause Sarfi have never done it. Rizwan is not even 10% of What Sarfaraz is as a cricketer. First go and check his achievements in cricket.

He is the WC19 captain I know its hard to imagine for the haters but that's the truth.
 
At the moment Rizwan can play as a batsman in the team while Sarfaraz should lead the team and be the WK in the world cup. Cant be changing captain so close to the WC.
 
Titan24 said:
At the moment Rizwan can play as a batsman in the team while Sarfaraz should lead the team and be the WK in the world cup. Cant be changing captain so close to the WC.
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Playing Rizwan as a batsmen lol Is he that good to spot a claim as a batsmen. Waste of a spot I would rather play Abid Ali. Yes he has only played one game but what he has shown is great signs. Rizwan made 2 combacks so far for God Sake
 
Nah

Rizwan is also rubbish

2 centuries
against this B side Australia

meh


enjoy getting rinsed if we have him in the XI
 
He's been solid. The guys who have been bashing him for the past few years are struggling to digest these performances.
 
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That is statistically true.
Sarfraz has lost his form as a batsman.
He plays much lower down the order than Rizwan is playing this series. And I doubt even if Rizwan gets selected as a player he wont get a chance to bat at no.4

Secondly though impressive those knocks were from Rizwan none of them have yielded a match winning result and they weren't good enough to take the team home.

We have alot of players in the mould of Rizwan and if all of them play at the same strike rate we will not have a chance to post a decent total regardless of who plays.

Rizwan does have the chance to cement his place in the side but after players like Hafeez and Malik depart and definitely it wont be in this world cup.
 
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Playing Rizwan as a batsmen lol Is he that good to spot a claim as a batsmen. Waste of a spot I would rather play Abid Ali. Yes he has only played one game but what he has shown is great signs. Rizwan made 2 combacks so far for God Sake
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Yes obviously scoring 2 centuries against Aussies and one of them at a SR of 100+ isnt good enough for our mighty standards.
 
Rizwan won't replace Sarfaraz before the world or even during the tournament unless injury. But he can play with him at No.4 or 5. He's done enough this series to warrant a place in the line-up.
 
Loralai said:
This is the harsh true. Surely Sarfraz career is dead and buried now after this performance by Rizwan. He may not be a world beater but he is certainly better than the unfit and ungainly Sarfraz who looks like a club cricketer next to Sarfraz.
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Aaj ki Riz ki performance ko dekhte hue, Rizwan should be made Permanent Captain, Wicket-Keeper. What a performance. Hai na? :trollface

I believe, Sarfaraz should remain as captain, wicket-keeper as he bring certain energy/intensity in the team.
 
Fineline said:
Yeah sure no need of hitting big when you can play dots or take singles to ensure that you get that daddy hundred.When you are done,just give the fielder some catching practice.Who cares about finishing the match when you have already done enough to secure the world cup spot?
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Lol, he got it down to 25 off 3 overs. We should win from there. He didn't actually slow down to get his hundred.
 
I was impressed by his sweep shots today. Reminded of Yunus Khan.

There is a certain composure about Rizwan which Sarfraz doesnt have. Even Alan Border rated Rizwan very highly in the commentary today.
 
A lot of clueless people here showing either there lack of knowledge of the game , or there worrying hatred towards a player .

Rizwan’s innings was not selfish he scored a century at 100 plus SR whilst we were chasing 270odd. His innings was well paced and he took the game deep. The match was lost due to the inept lack of ability by the other batsman around him. Seriously cut the guy some slack .
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He's been solid. The guys who have been bashing him for the past few years are struggling to digest these performances.
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Fully agree with this. He batted at a strike rate of a 100 and people blaming him. Whilst PP favourites Shan,Umar,and Haris get away with any blame.
 
Titan24 said:
Yes obviously scoring 2 centuries against Aussies and one of them at a SR of 100+ isnt good enough for our mighty standards.
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Drop the player who scored centuries but keep the players who don't make the team on merit and have been rubbish for years= PP logic . :kp
 
Asif321 said:
Wrong comparison here
Sarfraz has played at 6 or 7 since he became captain
Check Rizwan batting at those position
Sarfraz batting as opener and at 4 or 5 has done immensely well has a ton in lords at that position
Was best batsmen on that England tour

So comparison is wrong . Also plays at better strike rate
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Excellent post ....is a joke all the fans jumping on anti Sarfraz band wagon ...then once Pakistan start winning in world cup with sarfraz like champion trophy they will change like the wind
 
Dr_Green said:
once Pakistan start winning in world cup with sarfraz like champion trophy they will change like the wind
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They still won"t. Thankless fans.

They think captaincy is kids play. They portrayed Malik as the 'best captain' after 4th odi vs South Africa but got a good reality check. Don't know who is next in line.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I refuse to judge him on the UAE pitches.

Especially when he was more interested in getting his 100, than winning the game.

And no, I quite don't support Sarfraz either.
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Two hundreds but lost the match both times.
 
yeah, Rizwan has done sooo much - he scored 2 centuries and lost both games from a position of strength

what a player
 
Asif321 said:
Wrong comparison here
Sarfraz has played at 6 or 7 since he became captain
Check Rizwan batting at those position
Sarfraz batting as opener and at 4 or 5 has done immensely well has a ton in lords at that position
Was best batsmen on that England tour

So comparison is wrong . Also plays at better strike rate
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In last 2 years, Sarfraz has batted 3 times at 4/5 (twice at 4), and averages 20 with SR of 70. 2 Games against IND for 44 & 6, one against BD for 10 - all 3 games in Asia Cup, UAE. He is the chosen one to lead PCT in WC, so he should be supported now, but Rizwan indeed has out performed his last 2 years in 4 games with bat, but Sarfraz had been a decent WK in that period, Rizwan has dropped few.
 
Loralai said:
This is the harsh true. Surely Sarfraz career is dead and buried now after this performance by Rizwan. He may not be a world beater but he is certainly better than the unfit and ungainly Sarfraz who looks like a club cricketer next to Sarfraz.
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Your so called world beater Rizwan just played for himself. Besides this, when the ball was moving around a bit in the third odi, ur world beater could not even survive....
Being a captain and a wicket keeper is extremely difficult. Besides this , in the recent past, Sarfaraz has given more opportunities to other batsmen.... Pathetic thinking
 
Abdullah said:
Lol, he got it down to 25 off 3 overs. We should win from there. He didn't actually slow down to get his hundred.
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He must be the only centurion on this planet who cannot score 25 runs from 18 balls!🤔
 
Rizwan is definitely the better keeper..but he hasn’t done enough to prove himself over Sarfraz as the better international player. Sarfraz won you CT17 rizwan can’t even win you a 4 day game as Pakistan A captain.
 
Lol , couldn't win an easy game for pakistan despite being there till the very end. Sarfraz is better in sense that he actually plays to win the game.
 
coy0607 said:
yeah, Rizwan has done sooo much - he scored 2 centuries and lost both games from a position of strength

what a player
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Doesnt that says something about his teammates too? What sort of support did he get?
 
Abdullah said:
Also we needed 25 off last 18 when he got his hundred. So there was no need to play big shots before then ( like umer tried)

You can do 9 an over with good hard running for 2 -3 overs
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It wasn't need to play big but it wasn't need to score 3/over either.
 
sshakir411 said:
Rizwan is definitely the better keeper..but he hasn’t done enough to prove himself over Sarfraz as the better international player. Sarfraz won you CT17 rizwan can’t even win you a 4 day game as Pakistan A captain.
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Rizwan is not a better at keeping either, may be he has sharp reflexes but he has dropped the catches at crucial stages.
 
Rizwan surely deserves to be on that plane after this series. We have to play Hafeez / Malik in the finishers role along with Shadab / Faheem.

3. Babar
4. Rizwan
5. Sarfraz

This is an ideal middle order who can remain busy and Sarfraz can float as per match situation. He should not bat below 5 as he doesnt have the power game and more often than not loses the plot altogether.
 
He will lose Pakistan a crucial game in the world cup. Simply not good enough. And selfish at that.
 
Poor man's Fawad Alam.

Both Fawad and Rizwan have no place in today's cricket.

Rizwan is worse. Extremely limited, will never help you chase or set a decent target.
 
Fineline said:
He must be the only centurion on this planet who cannot score 25 runs from 18 balls!��
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He struggles at the back end we know that, but played beautifully in the middle at run a ball ,
He wouldn't have factored in 3 batters scoring 15 off 26 between them numbers 5-7 :facepalm:
 
Asif321 said:
Wrong comparison here
Sarfraz has played at 6 or 7 since he became captain
Check Rizwan batting at those position
Sarfraz batting as opener and at 4 or 5 has done immensely well has a ton in lords at that position
Was best batsmen on that England tour

So comparison is wrong . Also plays at better strike rate
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Sarfraz as a captain to hide at 6 ,7 or 8 . Who is to be blamed for that.

Didn’t he score centuries batting @4 in England winning a match chasing

Who asked him to drop down to 6 and 7
 
Rizwan has played mediocre spin as well as I have seen any PK for a while. His play of fast bowling is still pretty mediocre- quite simply his head falls over and he isn't balanced.
 
Rizwan done well but Sarfaraz hasn't got a chance to face a lot of balls due to the time he normally comes in. Although I heard Rizwan dropped Maxwell yesterday.
 
Rizwan is an effective accumulator but has no power game. I read he's hit one six in his last 428 balls. That's going to cost us games especially if we don't have other powerhitters in the side to compensate !

However when you compare him to Sarfraz who since becoming captain cannot accumulate nor has power, then he's already been an upgrade.
 
Sarfraz averages 53 at a SR of 92 batting at 5 (albeit most of those innings were before becoming captain) yet he keeps floating in the order.

He hasn't the power game to open or bat in the lower order. Batting at 5 against the spinners and accumulating in the middle-overs is his strength.
 
PCB should do the right thing and not only take away captaincy from Sarfraz but also drop him from the World Cup squad. With Sarfraz, Pakistan will basically play with one batsman short.
 
The_Odd_One said:
PCB should do the right thing and not only take away captaincy from Sarfraz but also drop him from the World Cup squad. With Sarfraz, Pakistan will basically play with one batsman short.
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Who's going to captain the side then?
 
sshakir411 said:
Rizwan is definitely the better keeper..but he hasn’t done enough to prove himself over Sarfraz as the better international player. Sarfraz won you CT17 rizwan can’t even win you a 4 day game as Pakistan A captain.
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But he has won a 4 day game as captain. But i see what you're saying
 
Markhor said:
Sarfraz averages 53 at a SR of 92 batting at 5 (albeit most of those innings were before becoming captain) yet he keeps floating in the order.

He hasn't the power game to open or bat in the lower order. Batting at 5 against the spinners and accumulating in the middle-overs is his strength.
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Do mention if it is inflated by not-outs or not.
 
Madplayer said:
He will lose Pakistan a crucial game in the world cup. Simply not good enough. And selfish at that.
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Dont think Rizwan is a purana papi like Shehzad at selfishness and he himself must be thinking he did wrong for the team's cause. But the way he treated Saud Shakeel in A team for downright selfsih as Saud was his competitor for National team selection after being in top form in domestic one days. Saud was coming at 7 and Rizwan promoted himself at 4.

Hopefully he will have self inspection unlike Shehzad who think he never did anything wrong after playing quite a few selfish innings.

Rizwan can do a job for Pakistan as he is one of the few clutch players we have and have good game sense.
 
Markhor said:
Sarfraz averages 53 at a SR of 92 batting at 5 (albeit most of those innings were before becoming captain) yet he keeps floating in the order.

He hasn't the power game to open or bat in the lower order. Batting at 5 against the spinners and accumulating in the middle-overs is his strength.
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What I find quite frustrating is that the half decent batsmen we have - don't possess an upper gear or power game and the ones that do, have been useless ala Asif Ali and Akmal (or banned for spot fixing).
 
Rizwan has done well for sure. Just not a fan with the way he bats.
 
Rizwan is much better than Sarfraz but I feel we need Sarfraz's leadership skills in the World Cup
 
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