Mohammad Wasim as Chief Selector for Pakistan - performance watch

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Another test for M Wasim coming up with the Pakistan v West Indies ODI series:

 

[BunnyRabbit]

He just gives too much negative energy.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Several poor selections in the Australia series which backfired.

He has to come under the scanner for those poor selections.

The problem lies within Pakistan's depth, which is quite poor after its first choice. They were missing Nawaz & Shadab in LOI and the replacements were quite poor & expensive. There's not even clear cut choice of spinners after those two which says quite a bit about where Pakistan is at in its spin department.

Asif Ali needs to be stop being selected and being played. He is horrific in ODI's and not even that good for a guy who only comes in towards the end of the game to slog runs. Low average of 17.40 and only 133.84 SR. Babar Azam who often gets criticized for his SR carries a SR of 129.44 while having the burden of carrying the lineup for most of his T20 career.

Can always quibble with Test selections but it's the same squad they have been using for a while now. In the end, changes in Test team won't be substantial enough until they get rid of Azhar and once again, find spinners they can rely on. This is clearly the biggest issue for Pakistan - not enough reliable or good spinners and it's an issue across the formats.

 

[indianpanacea]

Right now next T20 should be in the minds of selector and remember that is a n Australia where you need stroke players and not the ones like shoiab malik who can't play short pitch deliveries.it is going to be high scoring games.ball will come on bat and you need players accordingly.For me it should be
Sharjeel
Haider
Fakhar
Babar
Rizwan
Azam Khan
Iftikhar
Hassan Ali
Afridi
Haris rouf
Shehxad

 

[shamaan]

He has selected a good squad vs west Indies for the odi series however why is Zahid Mahmood being picked who was terrible against Australia.

 

[MenInG]

Chief selector Muhammad Wasim: “We have selected this squad considering the conditions in Sri Lanka and have equipped the team with the best possible resources.

“Our spin department is boosted with the return of Yasir Shah, who proved himself as a match-winner in Sri Lanka on our last tour and Sajid Khan has made the way for him. The spin department also includes two spin all-rounders in Mohammad Nawaz and Salman Ali Agha and left-arm orthodox Nauman Ali..

“Salman Ali Agha has shown consistent performances with the bat in the past three seasons and he is a handy off-spin option.

“Our team has recently put strong performances in Bangladesh and although results against Australia were not ideal we displayed solid cricket and for that reason we have retained the core to instil consistency and continuity and have trimmed the squad size following the relaxation in Covid-19-induced travel restrictions.

“These two matches are extremely crucial for our side as we have World Test Championship points at stake. I wish our boys all the best and I am sure they will make us proud.”

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations Team <br>Amazing run chase . <br>Well done Babar&co . Special innings from Babar&Abdullah<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSL</a> <a href="https://t.co/3p6SjJXjp8">pic.twitter.com/3p6SjJXjp8</a></p>— Muhammad Wasim (@MuhammadWasim77) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadWasim77/status/1549705396239142914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Imad not happy with Mohammad Wasim

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Imad Wasim "if the selectors don’t like my face they should be brave enough to say it & I'll be fine with that. Not selecting someone because of a personal dislike is unfair & it’s also a disservice to our country as it’s being deprived of the services of a good player" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1550510892160270341?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 22, 2022</a></blockquote>
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More from Imad:

PakPassion.net: How disappointed and frustrated are you that it’s been 8 months since you were last picked for Pakistan?

Imad Wasim: I am very disappointed by this and my feelings on this stem from the fact that I have performed so well for Pakistan and have not been picked for the team for a while now. At the end of the day, I can tell myself that it is what it is, but that does not take away from the fact that this is a very frustrating situation for me.


PakPassion.net: Mohammad Wasim has said that the reason for your exclusion was because your performances were not up to the mark…

Imad Wasim: It’s not up to me to respond to this, rather it’s for him to explain exactly what he means by performances which are below par. Are these recent matches he is referring to? Or is he speaking about the past where my performances have not been up to the mark? My performances are out there for all to see whether they are in the domestic One-Day Cup or in the Pakistan Super League. Of course, this year’s PSL did not go well for Karachi Kings as we only won a solitary game in the tournament, but the fact is that I was an integral part of the team and did not perform badly and that must count for something. Previous to that, I was part of the Pakistan side where I performed well and in which we went all the way through to the Semi-Final stage of the T20 World Cup in the UAE. Anyone who makes claims like these needs to back them with facts and it’s really up to Mohammad Wasim to explain his reasoning with examples.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Mo wasim has been a very mediocre selector when it comes to the test team. There is no long term planning with the batting. Fringe batsmen seem to just being rotated in positions in squad. Senior players who arent performing arent getting the chop. Also same goes with spin department with no much being looked with future in mind either.

 

[shamaan]

Mo wasim has been a very mediocre selector when it comes to the test team. There is no long term planning with the batting. Fringe batsmen seem to just being rotated in positions in squad. Senior players who arent performing arent getting the chop. Also same goes with spin department with no much being looked with future in mind either.

Both Abdullah and Saud Shakeel have been picked in the squad due to wasim picking them it's a process.

 

[MenInG]

What portion of the blame must Mohammad Wasim take for Pakistan's dismal showing on the Sri Lanka tour?

 

[Anis Shivani]

What portion of the blame must Mohammad Wasim take for Pakistan's dismal showing on the Sri Lanka tour?

Very little to none. The die was cast before this tour. The captain and coach are too cowardly to listen to the chief selector's reasoning. He cannot select the final 11. He is now bending to their will more and more.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Both Abdullah and Saud Shakeel have been picked in the squad due to wasim picking them it's a process.

Well Shafique got his chance when Misbah was ousted , till then Abid ali and Imran butt (just for his slip catching ability was preferred) didnt know a team that plays an opener who is so dud with a bat being selected just for slip cordon..

Since Misbah left , Shafique and Imam are showing that they are forming a good opening pair so far.. I would give another 2 years to become more solid without dropping them to gain more experience if they have 1 or 2 bad series or lean scoring spree , because in the long run Pakistan will have a young , solid and experienced openers moulded for all kinda pitches..

Saud shakeel on the other hand is not promising with the limited chances that he has got but now looks like Salman is slowly snatching his place..

Saud/KamranGhulam/Salman will be fighting for the 5th batsman cum allrounder spot..

Shan Masood should be taking over the no.3 spot from Azhar ali..

Test Squad will form a good unit if coach and captain can think appropriately.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Well Shafique got his chance when Misbah was ousted , till then Abid ali and Imran butt (just for his slip catching ability was preferred) didnt know a team that plays an opener who is so dud with a bat being selected just for slip cordon..

Since Misbah left , Shafique and Imam are showing that they are forming a good opening pair so far.. I would give another 2 years to become more solid without dropping them to gain more experience if they have 1 or 2 bad series or lean scoring spree , because in the long run Pakistan will have a young , solid and experienced openers moulded for all kinda pitches..

Saud shakeel on the other hand is not promising with the limited chances that he has got but now looks like Salman is slowly snatching his place..

Saud/KamranGhulam/Salman will be fighting for the 5th batsman cum allrounder spot..

Shan Masood should be taking over the no.3 spot from Azhar ali..

Test Squad will form a good unit if coach and captain can think appropriately.

Saud should be batting 3 and Kamran 5. Saud cant impress if hes not picked in 11 can he?

Also shan is an opener, we dont need number 3 spot clogged up by a mediocre opener when we have plenty of middle order batting options waiting on fringes.

 

[Shafi]

Babar should not have any say in squad selection.

 

[Markhor]

Mohammad Wasim was PP's darling for a long time with many demanding he be installed as Chief Selector. He's done about as good or bad a job as anyone else would have to be honest.

The bigger share of the blame for Pakistan's patchy Test form goes to Babar/Saqlain. The team balance and combination in the two Tests we've lost this year in Lahore and Galle was awful.

It wasn't the Chief Selector who took the decision to start our tail at 7 against a potent Australian pace attack, pick three seamers in the spin paradise of Galle, and positioning our wicketkeeper at 4.

 

[topspin]

Babar should not have any say in squad selection.

In that case he should no longer be captain which would be appropriate as he was never captaincy material.

 

[shamaan]

Well Shafique got his chance when Misbah was ousted , till then Abid ali and Imran butt (just for his slip catching ability was preferred) didnt know a team that plays an opener who is so dud with a bat being selected just for slip cordon..

Since Misbah left , Shafique and Imam are showing that they are forming a good opening pair so far.. I would give another 2 years to become more solid without dropping them to gain more experience if they have 1 or 2 bad series or lean scoring spree , because in the long run Pakistan will have a young , solid and experienced openers moulded for all kinda pitches..

Saud shakeel on the other hand is not promising with the limited chances that he has got but now looks like Salman is slowly snatching his place..

Saud/KamranGhulam/Salman will be fighting for the 5th batsman cum allrounder spot..

Shan Masood should be taking over the no.3 spot from Azhar ali..

Test Squad will form a good unit if coach and captain can think appropriately.

So you willing to give Imaam extended run bearing in mind he has previously had chances to perform in tests.Saud Shakeel hasn't performed in odis because he was playing in the wrong position and its not his format.

I am all for Shan Masood only due to the form he is in but he's not averaging 40 in tests whilst Saud Shakeel has average above 48 in domestic.

 

[javid]

Doesn't use his brain for selection process,may be he doesn't have any real interest to improve team's performance,just wants to lengthen his job so that he can earn as much as possible.Makes selections either on media suggestions or on public hype....
Brainless selector who doesn't cae a bit about teams improvement.....

 

[javid]

Should be replaced or should select team on merit...

 

[Amjid Javed]

So you willing to give Imaam extended run bearing in mind he has previously had chances to perform in tests.Saud Shakeel hasn't performed in odis because he was playing in the wrong position and its not his format.

I am all for Shan Masood only due to the form he is in but he's not averaging 40 in tests whilst Saud Shakeel has average above 48 in domestic.

1) imam shouldnt even be in the test side, mediocre player who is technically inept.
2) Saud was never a white ball cricketer so dont get why he was picked in ODI team also has nothing to do with test cricket.
3) Saud did fairly well in Shaheens team in 4 days games vs SL last year so should be given a go in test side.
4) Shan if picked opens, we already had issues with middle order players missing out over last 4 years after Azhar moved to 3. we dont need same stupidity again.
5)shan needs to improve his batting to be a long term opening batting option.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Awful and attention seeker.

Keeps grudges.

Probably wants to interfere with the final eleven selection as well.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] this guy is the Aubrey Edwards of Pak Cricket. Always trying to grab attention.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Let's say we replace M Wasim with the best selector in the world.

What possible 16 member squad would that selector have chosen and how different would that be to Wasim's?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] this guy is the Aubrey Edwards of Pak Cricket. Always trying to grab attention.

I'm surprised he hasn't brought out the PowerPoint presentations in a while. Must be hard at work looking through those Second XI databases that only he has access to.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I'm surprised he hasn't brought out the PowerPoint presentations in a while. Must be hard at work looking through those Second XI databases that only he has access to.

He refused to come to a press conference recently cause journos would call him laptop selector. )

 

[Nasty Naz]

I don't see an issue with the selector. I think the biggest quibble is with the team strategy at times where you are giving players like Salman a shot over Saud/Ghulam. There is a reason why they did it and its due to his off-spin bowling to give Pakistan every variation of attack but to me, at Test level, you have to play the best possible combination of batsmen & bowlers instead of worrying about matchups.

People overrate this team big time however. Even if the squad was selected as a fully optimized squad or it was the best coach with the best strategy implemented, the team wouldn't be much better than it is. You have bowlers that struggle to take wickets and outside of when Hasan Ali made his comeback and started blowing away oppositions, Pakistan as a bowling unit have not been good. The batting unit has been mediocre ever since MisYou retired and while we are finally starting to see some potential with Babar coming into his own & the rise of Abdullah, it still has a long way to go.

It doesn't help Pakistan play such few Tests every year so its a bit tougher to improve quickly when the young players aren't getting the much needed experience and the necessary reps to improve their game.

 

[shamaan]

1) imam shouldnt even be in the test side, mediocre player who is technically inept.
2) Saud was never a white ball cricketer so dont get why he was picked in ODI team also has nothing to do with test cricket.
3) Saud did fairly well in Shaheens team in 4 days games vs SL last year so should be given a go in test side.
4) Shan if picked opens, we already had issues with middle order players missing out over last 4 years after Azhar moved to 3. we dont need same stupidity again.
5)shan needs to improve his batting to be a long term opening batting option.

Thiers no other openers baring Shan Masood Hurraira stil needs another season.

Exactly Saud was picked in the wrong format.

 

[shamaan]

Let's say we replace M Wasim with the best selector in the world.

What possible 16 member squad would that selector have chosen and how different would that be to Wasim's?

It would proberly be similar to what Wasim picked baring 1-2 players.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

It would proberly be similar to what Wasim picked baring 1-2 players.

That's my point. This is the squad.

Babar Azam
Abdullah Shafique
Faheem Ashraf
Haris Rauf
Imam-ul-Haq
Naseem Shah
Salman Ali Agha
Saud Shakeel
Shan Masood
Mohammad Rizwan
Azhar Ali
Fawad Alam
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Nawaz
Nauman Ali
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Yasir Shah

Each one of them had a reason to be selected prior to the series - one can have strong opinions to the contrary but the reasons cannot be denied.

After this series though, many have done their chances a lot of harm. I think Fawad, Azhar, Yasir, Nouman and possibly Salman Agha are on the chopping block.

You could argue a bolder selector would not have selected some of them but instead have selected Kamran Ghulam, Zafar Gohar, Shahnawaz Dahani etc. Problem is, if they had lost the series, the likes of Fawad, Azhar, Yasir and Nouman would get a new life and would come back for several more series. By them failing in Sri Lanka, Wasim's hands are strengthened to drop them for good.

Whether he and the captain have the guts or willingness or foresight to do so? We shall see.

A side point: the squad also contained Saud Shakeel and Faheem Ashraf - who the captain could have played but didn't.

 

[Cric1234]

Abdullah
Huraira
Babar
Akmal
Haider
Saud
Rizwan
Nawaz/Raza
Yasir
Naseem
Shaheen

In Asia it’s close to the best test team we have got a number of changes compared to the one selected but it’s my opinion I am pretty sure we would play a more attacking brand of cricket and attain more fans if we played a team similar to this.

 

[zarak]

I don't see an issue with the selector. I think the biggest quibble is with the team strategy at times where you are giving players like Salman a shot over Saud/Ghulam. There is a reason why they did it and its due to his off-spin bowling to give Pakistan every variation of attack but to me, at Test level, you have to play the best possible combination of batsmen & bowlers instead of worrying about matchups.

People overrate this team big time however. Even if the squad was selected as a fully optimized squad or it was the best coach with the best strategy implemented, the team wouldn't be much better than it is. You have bowlers that struggle to take wickets and outside of when Hasan Ali made his comeback and started blowing away oppositions, Pakistan as a bowling unit have not been good. The batting unit has been mediocre ever since MisYou retired and while we are finally starting to see some potential with Babar coming into his own & the rise of Abdullah, it still has a long way to go.

It doesn't help Pakistan play such few Tests every year so its a bit tougher to improve quickly when the young players aren't getting the much needed experience and the necessary reps to improve their game.

Exactly selection has been pretty good. Agha playing was the captains choice and I think it was a wrong decision. Test match is a specialist game Agha's off spin was not needed.

We are struggling because our second new ball bowler is poor and we do not have any quality spinners. Nawaz bowling was a good sign though and I feel if we can get another good new bowl bower and a solid spinner we will be good.

 

[shamaan]

That's my point. This is the squad.

Babar Azam
Abdullah Shafique
Faheem Ashraf
Haris Rauf
Imam-ul-Haq
Naseem Shah
Salman Ali Agha
Saud Shakeel
Shan Masood
Mohammad Rizwan
Azhar Ali
Fawad Alam
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Nawaz
Nauman Ali
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Yasir Shah

Each one of them had a reason to be selected prior to the series - one can have strong opinions to the contrary but the reasons cannot be denied.

After this series though, many have done their chances a lot of harm. I think Fawad, Azhar, Yasir, Nouman and possibly Salman Agha are on the chopping block.

You could argue a bolder selector would not have selected some of them but instead have selected Kamran Ghulam, Zafar Gohar, Shahnawaz Dahani etc. Problem is, if they had lost the series, the likes of Fawad, Azhar, Yasir and Nouman would get a new life and would come back for several more series. By them failing in Sri Lanka, Wasim's hands are strengthened to drop them for good.

Whether he and the captain have the guts or willingness or foresight to do so? We shall see.

A side point: the squad also contained Saud Shakeel and Faheem Ashraf - who the captain could have played but didn't.

Yes I agree that the squad selection is good enough but the selecting of the final xi was shocking.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

That's my point. This is the squad.

Babar Azam
Abdullah Shafique
Faheem Ashraf
Haris Rauf
Imam-ul-Haq
Naseem Shah
Salman Ali Agha
Saud Shakeel
Shan Masood
Mohammad Rizwan
Azhar Ali
Fawad Alam
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Nawaz
Nauman Ali
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Yasir Shah

Each one of them had a reason to be selected prior to the series - one can have strong opinions to the contrary but the reasons cannot be denied.

After this series though, many have done their chances a lot of harm. I think Fawad, Azhar, Yasir, Nouman and possibly Salman Agha are on the chopping block.

You could argue a bolder selector would not have selected some of them but instead have selected Kamran Ghulam, Zafar Gohar, Shahnawaz Dahani etc. Problem is, if they had lost the series, the likes of Fawad, Azhar, Yasir and Nouman would get a new life and would come back for several more series. By them failing in Sri Lanka, Wasim's hands are strengthened to drop them for good.

Whether he and the captain have the guts or willingness or foresight to do so? We shall see.

A side point: the squad also contained Saud Shakeel and Faheem Ashraf - who the captain could have played but didn't.

Agree with this. I don't think Mohammad Wasim has done a bad job at all. Many were criticizing his selections for SL tour and the lack of quality spinners .

But the honest truth is going by the last QEA season, there aren't really any exceptional figures for any one spinner except young offspinner Mubasir Khan . Taking an inexperienced domestic off spinner would have been too risky.

Selection for the Asia Cup seems alright too with him giving chances to Dhani and Naseem ahead of Hasan etc.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

So you willing to give Imaam extended run bearing in mind he has previously had chances to perform in tests.Saud Shakeel hasn't performed in odis because he was playing in the wrong position and its not his format.

I am all for Shan Masood only due to the form he is in but he's not averaging 40 in tests whilst Saud Shakeel has average above 48 in domestic.

Fawad Alam avgs 57 in domestic, but couldnt buy a run against Aus...

Saud Shakeel looks like another Fawad Alam with proper stance.. Dont expect too much from him, looks like the think tank have realised this quickly and put him in Shaheens as captain to save his face..

 

[BunnyRabbit]

As far as t20 team is concerned, we have a very settled team except for no.5 slot. No one has really adjusted well or done well at there. I think it will be good to give Qasim Akram a go here who seems like a better exponent and more natural at that number.

Plus why is M Wasim contradicting with picking M Haris in the middle order when he bats at the top in domestic cricket. Does that logic only work for Shan?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Time for Mo wasim to go, his conservative and poor selection in all formats are not helping the team. seems to have a fascination with selecting bits and pieces players or garbage batsmen. Time to move on.

 

[Rana]

Time for Mo wasim to go, his conservative and poor selection in all formats are not helping the team. seems to have a fascination with selecting bits and pieces players or garbage batsmen. Time to move on.

He is just there to announce the sides. It’s Ramiz the clown who is doing everything behind the scenes

 

[Markhor]

He is just there to announce the sides. It’s Ramiz the clown who is doing everything behind the scenes

Ramiz is a narcissistic micromanager. However he believes in all-powerful captains like Imran and has basically given Babar full authority over tactics and selections. Wasim and Saqlain may have some inputs but Babar mostly gets what he wants.

Unfortunately Babar values friendship and seniority above everything else. Most of our T20 woes stem back to his decision making - from his stubborn refusal to demote himself despite striking run a ball in PP totally imbalancing the side; his refusal to groom younger middle order batters earlier (playing Hafeez and Malik for home series vs Bangladesh); keeping Shan out of the white ball teams despite being in form of his life; overplaying Hasan Ali; favouring Hasnain over Dhani; favouring Usman Qadir; won't even play Haider Ali in a dead rubber.

Like Joe Root he's not made for captaincy. Let him focus on batting.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Time for Mo wasim to go, his conservative and poor selection in all formats are not helping the team. seems to have a fascination with selecting bits and pieces players or garbage batsmen. Time to move on.

Who should be selected then?

Have people seen Pakistan domestic and realize how limited the options are?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Who should be selected then?

Have people seen Pakistan domestic and realize how limited the options are?

The likes of Khusdil, iftitkar etc.. in T20s arent good enough

we have similar garbage selections in ODI team as well.

in tests we continue to select past their sell by date players like fawad and Azhar. now we are seeing mediocre players like Agha salman being selected.

while talent pool isnt great picking mediocre players and persisting with this is stupid.

polishing garbage isnt going to turn into a diamond.

 

[Nasty Naz]

The likes of Khusdil, iftitkar etc.. in T20s arent good enough

we have similar garbage selections in ODI team as well.

in tests we continue to select past their sell by date players like fawad and Azhar. now we are seeing mediocre players like Agha salman being selected.

while talent pool isnt great picking mediocre players and persisting with this is stupid.

polishing garbage isnt going to turn into a diamond.

Okay but who do you want them to select? Who is so outstanding in domestic that they must be selected?

At the end of the day, players like Iftikhar/Khushdil have performed domestically & PSL. Unfortunately, Pakistan have limited choices and the young players are too far away at the moment.

Even players like Agha have performed domestically with a high SR and in a middle order role. An area Pakistan have very few viable players in.

Unfortunately, it is what it is at the moment. Good young upcoming talent but there's a bit of a gap until they arrive.

 

[ElRaja]

the only real question mark is over khusdil and Iftikhar, and whilst both have struggled the real problem is no one has scored well enough to merit replacing them, fundamentally u will only get real change to t20 teams once a year after psl, as the PCB doesnt even rate its own domestic tournament at this point.

 

[alone1213]

He is the worst chief selector ever.

He keeps selecting that worst player ever khushdil Shah anyone with sane mind can see that guy is not international material.

Iftikhar Ahmed score at a strike rate of 100 in Asia Cup( he is the reason Pakistan lost the Asia Cup final) yet he is selected for world cup.

He really has to be sacked now.

 

[MenInG]

Cannot see him continuing after this tournament is over.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Can't blame Mo Wasim. Misbah said it best on A Sports - You can blame players, coaches etc. but the truth is there aren't read made high quality players enter than these in domestic/PSL etc.

You can only get so far with good selection/strategy etc. You need better players to go further

 

[MenInG]

How safe is Mohammad Wasim's job?

 

[ex-q-zit]

Wasim is a very lucky man. Now that Pak had recahed the finals all is forgotten including the failures of Asif Ali, Haider Ali, Kushdil and also the loss against ZIM. All will appear rosy now with the chairm of PCB gloating over his team surpassing billion dollar teams. No accountability whatsoever of anyone who had insisted on having the players even after so much noise in media about the quality of middle order players selected.

India bowing out in semis seems like a blessing in disguise as it has now resulted in scrapping the selection committee and also rebuilding a new team keeping in mind potential youngsters who can play 2024 t20WC.

 

[world cup captain]

Wasim shouldn't be the one under the pump following the three crucial losses in the last three tournaments. Babar has had complete authority over selection for a while, so if the results do not go our way, it's Babar who should be under the pump.

It's time we let Wasim do his job and tell Babar to focus on scoring impactful runs.

 

[Saj]

Good job he's not employed by BCCI otherwise he would have been outbof a job a while ago.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Good job he's not employed by BCCI otherwise he would have been outbof a job a while ago.

PCB need to see sense and sack him

 

[MenInG]

To be fair, the squad he selected got to 2 finals this year!

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Good job he's not employed by BCCI otherwise he would have been outbof a job a while ago.

Sure, but based on what? He can only pick the players available to him. Which players were not picked that could have won Pakistan the tournament?

Where are these obvious gems that will raise Pakistan cricket to new levels?

The grass is always always always greener on the other side, and hindsight is 20-20.

I think Wasim has done a decent job, selecting players that match the strategy prescribed by the captain and coach.

Mohammed Haris, Haris Rauf, Mohammed Wasim Jr, Naseem, Dahani were all picked by Mo Wasim.
Aamir Jamal and Abrar Ahmed may well go on to be important players.

I

 

[ElRaja]

wasim has done a decent job, only problem i have with him is lack of guts with the test squad, he was excellent as northern coach, giving lots of youngsters chances, as far as the test team goes his selections have been defensive.

 

[Saj]

Sure, but based on what? He can only pick the players available to him. Which players were not picked that could have won Pakistan the tournament?

Where are these obvious gems that will raise Pakistan cricket to new levels?

The grass is always always always greener on the other side, and hindsight is 20-20.

I think Wasim has done a decent job, selecting players that match the strategy prescribed by the captain and coach.

Mohammed Haris, Haris Rauf, Mohammed Wasim Jr, Naseem, Dahani were all picked by Mo Wasim.
Aamir Jamal and Abrar Ahmed may well go on to be important players.

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Which grass made these guys take Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah to the World Cup and pick an unfit Fakhar Zaman.

 

[Savak]

Unfair to blame Wasim when Ramiz gave all the selection powers and authority to Babar.

Wasim should have resigned tho because he was reduced to being a dummy.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Unfair to blame Wasim when Ramiz gave all the selection powers and authority to Babar.

Wasim should have resigned tho because he was reduced to being a dummy.

Why do you think he will refuse a hefty sum of money that he is getting paid and that too when others are doing his job.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Unfair to blame Wasim when Ramiz gave all the selection powers and authority to Babar.

Wasim should have resigned tho because he was reduced to being a dummy.

If that is the case then he should openly say it to save his reputation otherwise he is seen as just another chief selector who belong to the league of Iqbal Qasim and Ilyas.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Which grass made these guys take Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah to the World Cup and pick an unfit Fakhar Zaman.

What obvious finisher replacements were there to pick, besides Asif Ali? Can you name one or two strong contenders that were unfairly dropped?

Fakhar was picked because there was a hope he would be fit for the latter half of the group stages. He’s also the only Pakistani No.3 who had both attacking intent and Experience of playing in Australia. Given that Pakistan’s batting resources aren’t exactly vast, picking him was a calculated gamble.

Let’s also not forget that Babar has a big say in which players get on the plane as well. As seen previously, he’s a big backer of Khushdil Shah. Given that we have the Imran model of giving the captain a lot of say in selection, Khushdil was in the squad.

Clearly you’re keen to get rid, but which saviours would you have picked rather than the names mentioned?

 

[Saj]

What obvious finisher replacements were there to pick, besides Asif Ali? Can you name one or two strong contenders that were unfairly dropped?

Fakhar was picked because there was a hope he would be fit for the latter half of the group stages. HeÂ’s also the only Pakistani No.3 who had both attacking intent and Experience of playing in Australia. Given that PakistanÂ’s batting resources arenÂ’t exactly vast, picking him was a calculated gamble.

LetÂ’s also not forget that Babar has a big say in which players get on the plane as well. As seen previously, heÂ’s a big backer of Khushdil Shah. Given that we have the Imran model of giving the captain a lot of say in selection, Khushdil was in the squad.

Clearly youÂ’re keen to get rid, but which saviours would you have picked rather than the names mentioned?

Finishers? What sort of finishers are Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah? Very generous to call them finishers.

I'm sure Imad Wasim and Shoaib Malik could have equalled what these 2 did at the World Cup and bowled a few overs too if needed.

 

[Baigel]

Finishers? What sort of finishers are Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah? Very generous to call them finishers.

I'm sure Imad Wasim and Shoaib Malik could have equalled what these 2 did at the World Cup and bowled a few overs too if needed.

It’s easy to say in hindsight. Imad and Shoaib weren’t even in the recent squads, what would the backlash be like if they were added? Imad would be a like for like player to Nawaz and we all know Shoaibs ability on fast paced tracks.

Shoaib and Imad were never your solutions.

 

[Suleiman]

Finishers? What sort of finishers are Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah? Very generous to call them finishers.

I'm sure Imad Wasim and Shoaib Malik could have equalled what these 2 did at the World Cup and bowled a few overs too if needed.

Malik would’ve been a fish out of water on these kind of Australian pitches. Look at his record outside of Asia, specifically SENA, and tell me for real that he would be better than everyone who played over him. He would’ve been toast at the MCG on both occasions.

This is just another case of whoever was dropped is better because the replacement failed, when in reality Khushdil, Asif and Malik are cut from the same cloth

 

[Suleiman]

Unfair to blame Wasim when Ramiz gave all the selection powers and authority to Babar.

Wasim should have resigned tho because he was reduced to being a dummy.

Ramiz has to realize Babar is not Imran. 90% of captains aren’t Imran. He was one of the best to do it.

This sort of uninhibited power corrupts people. Need to have checks and balances. In this case, a strong coach. Saqlain will let the captain do whatever he wants, he never gets in the way or opposes the captain, Malik already told us this.

Probably a foreign coach to hold Babar accountable + give some power back to selectors. Foreign coach because Pakistani coaches are incompetent when it comes to helping with man management.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Finishers? What sort of finishers are Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah? Very generous to call them finishers.

I'm sure Imad Wasim and Shoaib Malik could have equalled what these 2 did at the World Cup and bowled a few overs too if needed.

Ah yes, the idea that players not picked automatically become better…

Imad, by his own admission see’s himself as a bowler who can bat, rather than a middle order bat. But that’s not why Imad wasn’t selected. He was specifically not picked, because nowadays he exclusively bowls 3 overs in the power play. And whilst he does well there, 3 overs of Imad means that Naseem/Haris Rauf don’t bowl in the PP. Do you propose we go back to opening the bowling w/ Imad type spinners?

Shoaib Malik’s Australian record wasn’t the best in his younger days. However, his exclusion was based on the strategy of low value wickets. Because Babar and Rizzy bat at a lower strike rate, your middle order bats need to bat at a low average, higher s/r. Malik takes time to get going, doubly so in Australia. Which is why he wasn’t picked.

Do I think Asif and Khushdil merit places in the squad? Empathetically no. But I also strongly disagree that Imad or Malik would have made much of a difference to that middle order.


There’s a dearth of developed middle order talent in Pakistan. One can blame Mo Wasim for that, but any other selector would have had similar issues.

 

[Saj]

Do I think Asif and Khushdil merit places in the squad? Empathetically no. But I also strongly disagree that Imad or Malik would have made much of a difference to that middle order.

Blatantly obvious that Imad and Malik would/could have done better than Asif Ali's 2 runs and Khushdil Shah's water and towel carrying performances at the T20 World Cup.

If both were really that good, surely they'd have played more than 1 match in total at the tournament.

 

[zarak]

Finishers? What sort of finishers are Asif Ali and Khushdil Shah? Very generous to call them finishers.

I'm sure Imad Wasim and Shoaib Malik could have equalled what these 2 did at the World Cup and bowled a few overs too if needed.

They could have. But Saj cricket is also mental. Chopping and changing before a big event sends the wrong signal. I'm glad they stuck with the players and can now justifiably phase them out.

I don't get Imad though. Something tells me that he can be a great #5 batter but he usually hangs back.

 

[daytrader]

I wonder if the chief selector actually considered the possibility that we could be fielding a bowling attack that has the experience of 15 test is total. Haris Rauf, Mohammad Ali and Zahid Mahmood are making their debuts. Naseem Shah has 13 tests and Agha Salman, a part timer, only 2.

 

[MenInG]

Mohammad Wasim's snide take on how long its taking for Pakistan to figure out their WC squad

 

[hassan918]

I don't think Pakistan chief selector has the full control on selecting the team. PCB chairman will has its say, so does the coaches, captain so there is lots of influence on the chief selector and the selecting committee and if chairman says that a certain player has to be picked then the selector has no other choice if he wants to keep his job.