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This is a really good idea, and everyone should agree with it. Pakistan seriously lacking just one talented pacer in our Test squad. Sometimes we have trouble bowling the opposition out.

I, along with the people of Pakistan, propose Mohammed Asif return to the Test squad.

He should take the place of Rahat Ali or Hasan Ali, whom are not fit for Test cricket. These guys can’t swing and take wickets like Asif can.

Our pace attack should be:
Mohammed Asif
Mohammed Amir
Mohammed Abbas

These three guys fit perfectly for each other and bring more to the table. Amir and Asif both having friendly experience going back years. Abbas looking good with Amir with the new ball. Asif and Abbas both with similar bowling techniques. All of them are perfect for each other. We can bowl out teams for 200 with Abbas and Amir. But now they’ll be bowled out for lower.

Some may say that Asif’s fitness is a weak point. That simply is not true, he is taking wickets in bundles still with his magic. He is amongst the fittest fast bowlers in our domestic circuit. He is MILES more fit than Junaid Khan, Sohail Khan, Anwar Ali, Umar Gul, Mohammed Irfan!!
 
It shocks me that so many fans are blind to the fact that a large part of Pakistan’s success in recent years has been due to Mickey gradually weeding out selfish entitleted seniors and other problem characters.

Bringing back Asif is like nuking that entire process
 
This is a bad idea, and everyone should disagree with it.

Asif should consider a career in coaching or player mentorship. He does have great insight to share from the interviews I have seen.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
It shocks me that so many fans are blind to the fact that a large part of Pakistan’s success in recent years has been due to Mickey gradually weeding out selfish entitleted seniors and other problem characters.

Bringing back Asif is like nuking that entire process
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Asif is not a selfish senior. We have brought back seniors like Kamran Akmal, Umar Gul, Umar Amin in bi-lateral series after YEARS at the choice of Mickey Arthur. So why can’t we bring back Asif?
 
Mohammad Asif is done. He is history. The PCB has been ignoring him since 2016.

The reason he doesn't get picked up in many tournaments. QEAT is his water and bread + some lowly rated leagues.
 
Ik92yk09sa17 said:
He might be talented but his personality would be distruptive.

No chance
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He has humbled himself over the years. He is no Umar Akmal. He is a pretty nice person, and but a little naturally aggressive like Hasan Ali which is a good thing to have.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Mohammad Asif is done. He is history. The PCB has been ignoring him since 2016.

The reason he doesn't get picked up in many tournaments. QEAT is his water and bread + some lowly rated leagues.
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PCB ignores many fine talents. For example, Mohammed Abbas, Fawad Alam. All of which play in QEAT
 
No.What has he done to deserve a place over the likes of Sadaf Hussain and Mir Hamza,let alone Hassan Ali?
 
Asch Ali said:
PCB ignores many fine talents. For example, Mohammed Abbas, Fawad Alam. All of which play in QEAT
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The PCB have deliberately ignored Asif and Butt. No one can do anything about that.

I cherished Asif and I still am a fan of the magician, but I understand that the PCB want to move on from the past. Unfortunately that's the hard reality for Asif.
 
Asch Ali said:
This is a really good idea, and everyone should agree with it. Pakistan seriously lacking just one talented pacer in our Test squad. Sometimes we have trouble bowling the opposition out.

I,along with the people of Pakistan, propose Mohammed Asif return to the Test squad.

He should take the place of Rahat Ali or Hasan Ali, whom are not fit for Test cricket. These guys can’t swing and take wickets like Asif can.
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Generally no one cares about Asif anymore
Don't disagree about Rahat,but did Asif's ghost pick up 4-51 in the first innings?
 
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Arham_PakFan said:
Generally no one cares about Asif anymore
Don't disagree about Rahat,but did Asif's ghost pick up 4-51 in the first innings?
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Did you see the second innings mate? Asif would’ve done much more damage if he was in place in both of the innings!!
 
Asch Ali said:
He has humbled himself over the years. He is no Umar Akmal. He is a pretty nice person, and but a little naturally aggressive like Hasan Ali which is a good thing to have.
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He might be but still, NO.

We’ve had years of revolving doors with ex players that has shunted our progress. I think it’s time to give the new batch a chance, how would it look to the other bowlers trying to break in if he was chosen over them.

Also we don’t need the unnecessary headlines that would come with his return.
 
Asch Ali said:
You are so wrong on so many levels.
Please SEE THE FACTS!!

Asif is miles ahead of Hasan Ali and Mir Hamza in the QEAT!! He is the one of the TOP bowlers. He has two wickets less than Sadaf in the whole season, but much HIGHER average and SR than him!!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en..._wickets_career.html?id=12073;type=tournament
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Thanks for conveniently ignoring Mir Hamza who has a better average than Asif.Also,Sadaf averages 15 while Asif 14.Not much difference.
Sadaf Hussain and Mir Hamza have been picking up buckets of wickets for years.They deserve a spot more than Asif who spelled the end of his own career.I loved Asif's bowling but he destroyed his own career when he could've been a legend.

The facts are that Asif is a fixer,a serial trouble-maker and he's 35+.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
Thanks for conveniently ignoring Mir Hamza who has a better average than Asif.Also,Sadaf averages 15 while Asif 14.Not much difference.
Sadaf Hussain and Mir Hamza have been picking up buckets of wickets for years.They deserve a spot more than Asif who spelled the end of his own career.I loved Asif's bowling but he destroyed his own career when he could've been a legend.

The facts are that Asif is a fixer,a serial trouble-maker and he's 35+.
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LOL..

Mohammad Asif Average is 13.84 while Mir Hamza Average is 13.45!! What a big difference! Mohammed Asif SR is better than his but you ignored that. Asif can’t be ignored when he’s one the best bowlers. He practically has the same/better bowling stats than your favorite bowlers.
 
Asif is a good guy but unfortunately he never had the guidance or education. Blame him/curse him as much as you like but PCB is also responsible for not aiding his development outside of cricket.

Lets give him a farewell game to thank him for his services to Pakistan cricket. He's the best bowler the team has had since Wasim and Waqar.
 
ArsenalFC said:
Lets give him a farewell game to thank him for his services to Pakistan cricket. He's the best bowler the team has had since Wasim and Waqar.
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Yes at least this. He should have a farewell game after 1-2 years of Test series. Saeed Ajmal should be in the squad with him too
 
Hes 35 years old.

How long can he play for?

Better to keep investing in some younger talent who can play for the next 5-8 years. atleast.
 
Asch Ali said:
LOL..

Mohammad Asif Average is 13.84 while Mir Hamza Average is 13.45!! What a big difference! Mohammed Asif SR is better than his but you ignored that. Asif can’t be ignored when he’s one the best bowlers. He practically has the same/better bowling stats than your favorite bowlers.
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They are not my favorite bowlers.Don't make assumptions about something you don't know kid.

You yourself say they have the same bowling stats.Why not select them then if they are 7-10 years younger?
 
what a joke

Hassan is young and needs to be invested

Asif may be good but his issues are too many plus when was the last time he played a role in Pakistans victory

His fielding and attitude will demoralize the whole team
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
what a joke

Hassan is young and needs to be invested

Asif may be good but his issues are too many plus when was the last time he played a role in Pakistans victory

His fielding and attitude will demoralize the whole team
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Why not invest in both Asif and Ali?
 
Asif is yesterdays news. He is probably not even physically fit to play Cricket anymore. Pak players today and of the future should use him as reference of how not to ruin your career. Asif got what he deserved, no sympathy at all for that trouble maker.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
It shocks me that so many fans are blind to the fact that a large part of Pakistan’s success in recent years has been due to Mickey gradually weeding out selfish entitleted seniors and other problem characters.

Bringing back Asif is like nuking that entire process
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100% agree with you bro..

People should give credit where it's due.. Before MA era, it was almost impossible to get rid of Akmal clan, Hafeez and co..
 
Would love to have Asif back in place of useless Rahat but the ship has sailed I am afraid ... PCB has ignored him for 2 years despite him performing in FC. The writing is on the wall. :(
 
boomboom6 said:
Would love to have Asif back in place of useless Rahat but the ship has sailed I am afraid ... PCB has ignored him for 2 years despite him performing in FC. The writing is on the wall. :(
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At least some one agrees with me.
PCB should inmeditely bring him back.

Age is not an issue. We had a 45 year old Misbah, so why cant we play 35 year old Asif who is fit than many youngsters.
 
I wouldn't even want a prime Asif anywhere near this team, let alone a past-his-prime trundler version of him.
 
Red Devil said:
I wouldn't even want a prime Asif anywhere near this team, let alone a past-his-prime trundler version of him.
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For what reason? Stop being biased. You know you’d love him if he played a picked a 15 wicket haul.
 
Rahul1 said:
Hilarious thread. Thanks for the laugh op.
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Not sure what was funny. But I appreciate your thanks. I hope you agree with my plan. Asif is a wonderful bowler. The Indians fast bowler Ashish Nehru to national side even made a comeback years after his scandal. So why can’t Asif?
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
It shocks me that so many fans are blind to the fact that a large part of Pakistan’s success in recent years has been due to Mickey gradually weeding out selfish entitleted seniors and other problem characters.

Bringing back Asif is like nuking that entire process
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More than that....

It baffles me that people don't get the concept of a player going past his sell-date. Asif is finished. He was very talented but he has long lost his edge. In domestics he is little more than a steady bowler so it is ridiculous to expect him to do well in internationals

Might as well call up Wasim Akram if Asif deserves a recall
 
He should get the required coaching certifications and get a job at the NCA.... would be much better than Aquib "Legend killer" Javed.
 
Asif's time is up now. There is no way he should return. We need to work hard and build our reputation as a side - representing Pakistan isn't a joke and it is clear from Asif's disciplinary record that he doesn't understand this.

It is best to keep such shady characters away from our cricket. He has shown that he will never learn.
 
He is a certified crook, he will be 36 this year and bowls 120 kph pies in domestic cricket, he cannot bat and field and his fitness is poor.

This is a poor idea and no one in his right mind should be agreeing with it.
 
I would rather have Asif in my test squad as a backup to the pace attack instead of Rahat Ali. We can all at least agree 35/36 year old Asif of today >>> Rahat Ali at his peak.

But really I would want perhaps Shaheen or someone else (under 30) to replace Rahat from the squad for the next series.
 
You might call me names and hate me for it, but please for a moment can anyone think for a minute and name a more disgraceful player in the history of the game? Can you name me one player in history who has brought more bad name not just to his nation but to the game of cricket as a whole? And yet there are people who want him back?

Like I said, you might hate me for saying what I did, and specifically since me being an Indian am speaking of a Pakistani player. But just take a moment and answer my question first.
 
We need an express pacer who can bounce out batsmen uf anything. With Faheem in the line up we have enough medium pacers. Bringing Asif back would make no sense except for satisfying our obession with 'seniors'.
 
Instead of Asif, we should look towards inducting Mir Hamza in the side who is a quality bowler.
 
He should definitely be returning as the poster boy for how to not waste one's talent and career, but even then I am not sold whether he was the perfect bowler as people perceived him to be, his record on flat pitches flatters to deceive. The PCB has made it very clear they are not interested in selecting him or Salman Butt for the national side ever again.
 
Mohd Asif should return--------to Sheikhupura , to start some business, not to Pakistan team FGS.
 
Asch Ali said:
At least some one agrees with me.
PCB should inmeditely bring him back.

Age is not an issue. We had a 45 year old Misbah, so why cant we play 35 year old Asif who is fit than many youngsters.
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I'm not interested in even discussing his return as I understand that either you are a troll or unable to understand the game. I'm commenting to ask you exactly which youngster is Asif fitter than?
 
There are certain threads by fans that just make me wonder what on earth is wrong with our fans?

There are so many intangibles outside of pure "statistics" that are required to win a test match. Yes, Asif is a genius of a bowler....I rate him higher than Amir, Hassan, Abbas, etc. BUT he doesn't fit into the NEW Pakistan team that is Mickey's and Sarfaraz's team ....

If we pick a team purely based on stats and expect them to win, then [MENTION=146865]Asch Ali[/MENTION] - England should have won this 1st test at Lords comfortably given Broad and Anderson have 900+ wickets between them.
 
world cup captain said:
I'm not interested in even discussing his return as I understand that either you are a troll or unable to understand the game. I'm commenting to ask you exactly which youngster is Asif fitter than?
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You're right , not everyone is a PHD in cricket here, we get some thread like this also, now and then.
 
lets bring back the below mentioned bowlers as well:

Fazal e Akbar
Shabbir Ahmed
Shahid Nazir
Kabir Khan


I think all of them deserves a come back :D
 
A crook should not be mentioned. He had three chances and every time he got involved in corruption.
 
Rudi hater said:
A crook should not be mentioned. He had three chances and every time he got involved in corruption.
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Hasn't Rudi retired etc?


Also to answer the OP, no thanks. As much as I loved his bowling, his time has come and gone. I'd however not mind him getting selected in some PSL franchise if ever that happens.
 
Muhammad Asif is best FC+Test bowler in Pakistan at the moment.

He is 36-37. Walsh & Hadlee took 300 odd Test wickets after this age. Hadlee Averaged 25 with the ball from Age 35 to Age 40 while operating at 130 kph.


Update :


6th Fivefer for Mohammad Asif in his Last 8 FC matches.

Fivefer on return to FC Cricket for Wapda.


Asif needs to pair with Abass with the new ball with Wahab, Hasan or Waqas Ahmed coming in to ball 1st change in Test Cricket.


Waqas has recovered from injury and took 4 wickets on his return.


1. Asif (RHMF)
2. Abass (RHMF)
3. Wahab (RHF)
or
3. Waqas Ahmed (RHFM)
or
3. Hasan (RHFM)



Reserves atm should be


1. Junaid Khan (v impressive Test Record in Asian conditions)
2. Usman Khan Shinwari
3. Shaheen Shah (needs FC experience of 1 or 2 seasons)



Muhammad Amir needs to be rested for few months. Needs to improve his fitness(strength), ball release to rediscover his swing and pace. Amir operating between 143 to 152 kph with swing is deadly.
 
Ship has sailed for Asif. The PCB is not going back to Asif and Butt.
 
No need to go back to an old man, Abbas is bowling beautifully in a similar role which we'd have expected from Asif and he is much younger to and doesn't carry any baggage. I love Asif, he had the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but he flushed it all down the toilet. It's a shame that the PCB opted to invest in a greedy coward like Amir instead though, they were in tough spot; younger greedy coward or an older idiot ? Asif was more skilful but his age went against him unfortunately. Time to move on, give it a rest people.
 
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OP has a brilliant idea.

Mohammad Asif is quite young. He is 35, only 2 years more than Wahab Riaz. He is 2 years younger than Shoaib Malik and 4 years than Mohammed Hafeez.

If Mohammad Amir can have a chance after performing, why can’t Asif?
 
mystical man said:
In the land of fast bowlers bringing back a 37yr old uncle hack is extreme and not fair on the upcoming young bowlers in Pakistan
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Richard Hadlee played until age 40 and averaged under 25 in his last 3 years of Test Cricket. Hadlee earlier had career threatening knee and shoulder injuries.

While Asif at age 37 has played 50 % less F.C. Cricket than Hadlee, Walsh and McGrath until that age and has never had a serious back, knees or shoulder injury.


Test Cricket is all about winning Test after Test and it’s all about performance. Asif is still the best Red ball bowler in Pakistan and he must pair with Abass for next 2-3 years and win us games like before. He is much much better pacer than Amir, Wahab, Hasan and other youngstas.


6th fivefer in last 8 F.C. games tells u exactly about what sort of a magician and threat he still is. He is once in a generation bowler, has served his punishment and deserves comeback.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have taken 52 wickets in last 8 matches of first class . Remember me in your prayers <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QuaidEAzam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QuaidEAzam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/trophy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#trophy</a> I hope selector will call me otherwise no reason to playing for quail.e.Azam trophy. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/again?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#again</a></p>— Muhammad Asif (@MuhammadAsif_26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadAsif_26/status/1045382327160000515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
He should be back. Just want to see his magical bowling again. He was a once in a generation bowler, sadly he won't ever be counted amongst top bowlers,but he deserves this humiliation.
 
He was playing in a league in US a couple of months ago - reported by some people to have smoked weed before every game, and did nothing of note in a league of amateurs. So not sure if he was motivated enough or just lost some of his ability.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Richard Hadlee played until age 40 and averaged under 25 in his last 3 years of Test Cricket. Hadlee earlier had career threatening knee and shoulder injuries.

While Asif at age 37 has played 50 % less F.C. Cricket than Hadlee, Walsh and McGrath until that age and has never had a serious back, knees or shoulder injury.


Test Cricket is all about winning Test after Test and it’s all about performance. Asif is still the best Red ball bowler in Pakistan and he must pair with Abass for next 2-3 years and win us games like before. He is much much better pacer than Amir, Wahab, Hasan and other youngstas.


6th fivefer in last 8 F.C. games tells u exactly about what sort of a magician and threat he still is. He is once in a generation bowler, has served his punishment and deserves comeback.
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You know better than me on domestic cricket in Pakistan but what exactly has Amir done to warrant his place and eventually got booted out of the side. If he is the best in FC then these are bad days for Pakistan cricket
 
If he is interested still and match fit, for a World Cup in England I'd pick him.

More skillful than Anderson but a nobody, career-wise, compared to Anderson.

Just sad.
 
Time to move on from Amir and Asif to young blood. Muhammad Amir, despite being given proper chances has failed to create any impact which means his absence from playing field has actaully deprived him of his abilities. Same would be the case with Asif.

Hence, now it is right time to invest in young cricketers who are energetic like Shaheen Shah. Hope PSL would unearth couple of good fast bowlers ( muhammad hussain) hope he remains fit and plays.
 
mystical man said:
You know better than me on domestic cricket in Pakistan but what exactly has Amir done to warrant his place and eventually got booted out of the side. If he is the best in FC then these are bad days for Pakistan cricket
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I was talking about Right Arm Medium Fast bowler Muhammad Asif and not Mohammad Amir.
 
pillionrider said:
If he is interested still and match fit, for a World Cup in England I'd pick him.

More skillful than Anderson but a nobody, career-wise, compared to Anderson.

Just sad.
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Mohammad Asif’s Odi record in England is comparable with Odi Ave, SR and Eco of Glen McGrath in England. If I would ever pick him for Odis than it would be for WC in Eng only.
 
He continues to pick up wickets in QeAT. He is an excellent bowler. Rather have Asif than Amir in the next World Cup. Amir is a no performer. Asif still has his mojo.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have taken 52 wickets in last 8 matches of first class . Remember me in your prayers <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QuaidEAzam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QuaidEAzam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/trophy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#trophy</a> I hope selector will call me otherwise no reason to playing for quail.e.Azam trophy. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/again?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#again</a></p>— Muhammad Asif (@MuhammadAsif_26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MuhammadAsif_26/status/1045382327160000515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Lol is that a threat he will quit cricket if he is not picked by the selectors this year?
 
Badsha said:
Although I am against this appointment, imagine he comes back and starts ripping through batsman. Would be so funny.

The best comment I have read on Asif was something like ball jhoomti thi jase chars or something. Does anyone have the exact quote?

BTW, friends who know Asif say he is naturally fit and gifted but takes NO care of himself. This guy literally smokes weed a day before a match, goes and gets five wickets, then chills for a week.

But of course you can't do that internationally. Now is the time for Shaheen Shah and new youngsters.
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This explains why Asif is the biggest tragedy in our cricketing history. All the natural talents and gifts in the world but just ****** away a promising career.
 
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