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Former President Asif Ali Zardari said that the Government of Pakistan would have given a stronger diplomatic response had he been in power right now.

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He was speaking at the joint session of Parliament held to discuss the recent developments in Kashmir, including the revocation of Article 370 which could possibly lead to a demographic change in the disputed region.

“I would have immediately gone to the UAE, then to China, then to Russia and then to Iran on the way back”, Zardari said.

However, while criticizing Prime Minister Imran Khan’s remarks about whether the opposition wanted him to attack India, emotions seem to get the better of former president Zardari.

In a strange remark, Zardari suggested that migrants or Muhajirs had nothing to do with the creation of Pakistan.

(Remarks begin at the 6 minute mark in the video below)

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It started with a jibe by Zardari at PM Khan, saying that it was Khan and not he (Zardari) who kept roaming around in Bombay.

“I come from Sindh. Sindh and Bangladesh created Pakistan. It was not you who created Pakistan, you were a migrant,” Zardari said.

However, it do not stop here.

“You were made to flee from there and you came to seek refuge here”, Zardari continued.

It is known that Prime Minister Imran Khan’s father Ikramullah Niazi was born in Mianwali. However, his mother Shaukat Khanum was born in Jalandhar and migrated to Pakistan after partition.

But Zardari seemed to have realized the extent of his remarks, and he tried to rectify his mistake.

“You (Muhajirs) are most welcome here, Pakistan was created to accommodate all muslims”.

Former president Zardari also said that the external world was well aware of Pakistan’s place on the international stage.

“Don’t they know the state of our economy, everyone knows”, he said.

He also said that former PM Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto had defied expectations and made a diplomatic masterstroke by getting back land and prisoners of war from India after the 1971 war.

A production order was issued to let Zardari attend the session, who is NAB custody in a fake accounts case.

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...-nothing-to-do-with-the-creation-of-pakistan/
 
What a muppet.

Whilst he and Nawaaz were taking turns as leaders, they would just keep quiet during any border skirmishes.
 
Wasn't Mr. Jinnah a Muhajir, because he was based in Bombay/Gujarat before 1947? Or are only Urdu speaking migrants originating from UP/Bihar/Deccan the Muhajirs? Because if Quaid-E-Azam was Muhajir, this gentleman couldn't be farther from the truth.
 
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teray baap kay liay banaya tha pakistan kia ? is nay matric kia hota tu is jahil ko pata hota kay pakistan kis kay liay banaya gaya tha.
 
Just a dog barking nothing to see here.....
 
It's funny because Zardari like most Baloch actually migrated or should I say invaded Sindh, on wikipedia it also says his grandmother was from Iraq lol.
 
His laanti father Haakim Ali Zardari abused MA Jinnah in a live interview what do you expect from his laanti son?
 
It's funny because Zardari like most Baloch actually migrated or should I say invaded Sindh, on wikipedia it also says his grandmother was from Iraq lol.

Benazir Mother was from Iran and was born there someone should school him next time he appear on screen.
 
His laanti father Haakim Ali Zardari abused MA Jinnah in a live interview what do you expect from his laanti son?

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Carrying the legacy well.
 
Benazir Mother was from Iran and was born there someone should school him next time he appear on screen.

Lol yeah and I remember reading somewhere that her father was half Gujarati and was the Prime Minister of some state of India before migrating back to Sindh.
 
Benazir Mother was from Iran and was born there someone should school him next time he appear on screen.

Haven’t heard his speech.

But did you hear Khawaja Asif’s one?

He starts off with “Pakistan is going to other countries to beg money”.

I thought while he said that didn’t he think about that when he was FM?

Thankfully Murad Saeed took him to the cleaners.
 
His laanti father Haakim Ali Zardari abused MA Jinnah in a live interview what do you expect from his laanti son?

Am wondering, how are Mr. Certified jhoota and [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] going to defend PPP?
 
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Carrying the legacy well.

Looking at some of speeches in NA from last 2 days i wonder how these snakes ended up being our Presidents, CMs and Federal ministers?
 
Haven’t heard his speech.

But did you hear Khawaja Asif’s one?

He starts off with “Pakistan is going to other countries to beg money”.

I thought while he said that didn’t he think about that when he was FM?

Thankfully Murad Saeed took him to the cleaners.

I did and this ***** was our foreign and defense minister :facepalm: We really need to kill these snakes by declaring emergency in the country.
 
I did and this ***** was our foreign and defense minister :facepalm: We really need to kill these snakes by declaring emergency in the country.

They are more dangerous than our enemies.

Munafiq log.
 
Bilawal really needs to do a mutiny with his father to get himsellf rolling as a politician.
 
Bilawal really needs to do a mutiny with his father to get himsellf rolling as a politician.

Bilawal first need to get his facts he is coming up with too many B-S statements these days (still far far better than Maryam). Yesterday Bilawal appreciated Mualana's work for Kashmir as Chairman of Kashmir Committee for last 1 decade or so i mean seriously what exactly the munafiq mulla did for Kashmir? Bilawal really need to stay far away from this mulla and stop playing buddy buddy with him
 
PM need to declare a state of emergency and arrest all these traitors they are only creating more mess for us.

Maybe it is time for an Atatürk’s Reforms.

Imran really needs to tighten up the screws of these crooks who have looted Pakistan.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former President Zardari’s comments about the Urdu-speaking community have once again highlighted the ethnic divide in Sindh that has often shaped its electoral faultlines. PPPP won 52% of the Sindhi vote in 2018, only 8% of Urdu-speaking voters as per our exit poll. <a href="https://t.co/WGADrU0spa">https://t.co/WGADrU0spa</a></p>— Roshan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1159197513150320640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Bilawal really needs to do a mutiny with his father to get himsellf rolling as a politician.

Change of heart ?
Otherwise this post of yours has potential to be quoted against you for a good period of time. I guess [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] and [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] has already bookmarked this.
 
Phatkar and Lanat are two words that came in my mind when i saw his face and this statement.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Zardari mocks 'Muhajirs' residing in Pakistan.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ARYNews?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ARYNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/tnfSQ6Lz6T">pic.twitter.com/tnfSQ6Lz6T</a></p>— ARY News (@ARYNEWSOFFICIAL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ARYNEWSOFFICIAL/status/1159196458198994945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Its all planned so start and forment civil trouble in Sindh again, the same time as India is having its issues and we are peace. These lapdogs of other nations need to be sent to prison forever or done away with.
 
As expected after more thn 12 hours Dawn and co are still sleeping i am sure they would have made this a headline news if IK as opposition leader said this
 
As expected after more thn 12 hours Dawn and co are still sleeping i am sure they would have made this a headline news if IK as opposition leader said this

Dawn and Geo were too busy reporting on Bilawal meeting Shehbaz in his chambers (no jokes :)) )
 
Its all planned so start and forment civil trouble in Sindh again, the same time as India is having its issues and we are peace. These lapdogs of other nations need to be sent to prison forever or done away with.

Zardari being Zardari here, he knew exactly what he was doing there.

At a time when the topic is so irrelevant, he has made these disgraceful statements only to create further hatred between different communities in Sindh. As many have pointed out, expected nothing better from Hakim Zardari's son and only fools will expect better from Hakim Zardari's grandson Bilawal. Shame on all those who call these leeches their leaders and yes if Imran Khan spreads hatred against certain community, i would have exactly same views for him.
 
Divide and conquer, India must be laughing
 
So, they let this thief/murderer out for one day and all he does is bark this hateful racist trash. Truly a despicable person. What a disgusting family.

It's hard to say which horde is worse: Bhuttos/Zardaris or The Shareefs. The real enemies of our country. They have been destroying out country for decades now, and that's a proven fact.

Even in jail they are still harming our nation.

Truly disgusting. Laanat in per.
 
The laws need to be changed.
A person in jail should have absolutely zero right to speak in Parliament.

Also, anyone with a case hanging over their heads should be banned from speaking to the press as it could affect the trial. The press watchdog has to make sure that no TV show or newspaper interviews anyone that has a case hanging over their head.
 
Then people wonder why parties like mqm find a space
 
Now you can probably get why PPP has turned Karachi into a dilapidated slum from a fast, improving and developing city in 2008. An Urdu speaking person would rather vote for a dog or a donkey than vote for PPP.


We need more Bhutto shaheeds.
 
Meanwhile, the MQM parliamentarians staged token walkout from the House to protest remarks of ex-president Asif Ali Zardari used by him against people migrated to Karachi and Sindh province at time of partition, during his speech at joint sitting of Parliament.

Federal Minister Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui who hails from MQM on a point of order, without naming Asif Zardari said during joint sitting a speech was delivered in which insulting remarks were used for the Mohajir community. “The speech served agenda of India and amounted to insult of refugees and ideology of Pakistan,” he said. The minister said that the people who migrated from Punjab, UP, Bihar and other areas of Hindustan took part in freedom movement despite the fact that they knew that their native towns would not be included in Pakistan. “We gave numerous sacrifices for the country and brought with ourselves our part of Pakistan and were not offered refuge by any community in Sindh,” he said adding they left behind more properties and lands than the PPP leaders accumulated in different ways.

Abdul Qader Patel of PPP while responding to speech of the MQM parliamentarians said his party leadership attached high respect for those who gave sacrifices for Pakistan and migrated to this part.

However, he said that MQM has been using the word ‘Mohajir’ which serves their political motives. “They become parliamentarians, ministers, governors, prime ministers but still call them as Mohajir,” he said.

Patel said the MQM people should live in Pakistan like Pakistani.

Federal Minister Shafqat Mahmood said that Pakistanis have every right to call them as Mohajir, Sindhi, Punjab etc. “It is highly regrettable they are asked to become Pakistani if they want to live in Pakistan,” he said.

Deputy Speaker on that said all those sitting in Parliament are Pakistanis and everybody should get respect.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/510499-national-assembly-session
 
Sindhis never accepted Urdu Speakings & will never in future too. What zardari said is a common stance of sindhis against urdu speaking. That is whay I always say this is racist party lead by racist sindhis.
 
Sindhis never accepted Urdu Speakings & will never in future too. What zardari said is a common stance of sindhis against urdu speaking. That is whay I always say this is racist party lead by racist sindhis.

It wasn't really directed to just urdu people but to immigrants in general, Zardari remarks were against Imran Khan cause his mother migrated from the Indian side of Punjab.
 
It wasn't really directed to just urdu people but to immigrants in general, Zardari remarks were against Imran Khan cause his mother migrated from the Indian side of Punjab.

It was you know it was, Imran wasnt in the session & most of Imrans MNAs are non urdu speaking. His comment was for the alliance party which MNAs are urdu speaking & since when peoples of Mianwali or Isa khel becomes muhajir?
 
It was you know it was, Imran wasnt in the session & most of Imrans MNAs are non urdu speaking. His comment was for the alliance party which MNAs are urdu speaking & since when peoples of Mianwali or Isa khel becomes muhajir?

He was responding to Imran Khan, prior to that comment he mentioned how Khan was begging Indians to donate to his charity and attend his swearing-in ceremony, he also threw shade at him for partying in bombay during his youth, so the immigrant shade was against Khan. Of course people from Mianwali are not immigrants but people from the Indian side of Punjab were/are considered immigrants and Khan's mother migrated from the Indian side like I mentioned before.
 
He was responding to Imran Khan, prior to that comment he mentioned how Khan was begging Indians to donate to his charity and attend his swearing-in ceremony, he also threw shade at him for partying in bombay during his youth, so the immigrant shade was against Khan. Of course people from Mianwali are not immigrants but people from the Indian side of Punjab were/are considered immigrants and Khan's mother migrated from the Indian side like I mentioned before.

Indeed khans mother shifted from somewhere patiala or julandhar but she was from Burki clan who is purely belongs KPK of today, perhaps her family shifted to west punjab for business or may be job but they were not the locals.
 
Maybe it is time for an Atatürk’s Reforms.

Imran really needs to tighten up the screws of these crooks who have looted Pakistan.

The problem, some of the methods to put through a solid reformation require dictatorial powers which IK does not have.

Unfortunately it's a slow progress and 5 years isn't enough. You just have to hope people are patient at the next election and give IK another term.
 
The problem, some of the methods to put through a solid reformation require dictatorial powers which IK does not have.

Unfortunately it's a slow progress and 5 years isn't enough. You just have to hope people are patient at the next election and give IK another term.

People's discontentment with IK has only been on the economic front because an average joe does not understand why these tough decisions have to be made. Majority of people support IK on his foreign policy decisions and even accountability against corrupt politicians.


However, there are signs that the economy is already beginning to turn around when even the government itself had predicted that things will only start getting better in the next 6-12 months. Exports grew 15% in July, imports dropped by around 19% (import of machinery grew 11%). FBR achieved 96% of their revenue target in July which was around 12% higher than same month last year.
 
The problem, some of the methods to put through a solid reformation require dictatorial powers which IK does not have.

Unfortunately it's a slow progress and 5 years isn't enough. You just have to hope people are patient at the next election and give IK another term.

He will win the next elections too...
 
This is why this guy never speaks and people think he is some sort of genius or mastermind. Him and his party can only play sindh card and attract all the jahils to vote for them because bhutto zinda ha and because muhajir is bad. Its a travesty him and his cronies control Karachi.
 
Wasn't Mr. Jinnah a Muhajir, because he was based in Bombay/Gujarat before 1947? Or are only Urdu speaking migrants originating from UP/Bihar/Deccan the Muhajirs? Because if Quaid-E-Azam was Muhajir, this gentleman couldn't be farther from the truth.

In Pakistan everyone who came from India with the exception of Punjabis and Kashmiris is considerded a Muhajir. The majority of those non Punjabis and Kashmiris were Urdu Speaking, so sometimes Muhajir and Urdu speaking are used synonymously. However you will people from pretty much every corner of the subcontinent living in Karachi.
 
Shabash Zardari, hypocrisy to the max!

It’s almost laughable that Zardari is making such twilight zone type claims about Muhajirs when his own mother is from what is now India. Not only that - it’s truly ironic that his inner circle of buddies from his days at Pataro Military Academy are mostly from families who immigrated to Pakistan from India whom he made his top advisers and ministers while he was in office. Even his cousin Sherry Rehman’s maternal family is originally from India.

So in this instance as well as many other instances while he was in office, he has learned the true art of deception and besharam lying.
 
LAHORE: Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) co-chairman and former president Asif Ali Zardari has stepped up efforts to poach Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) deserters ahead of general elections, ARY News reported on Wednesday.

With more than 70 leaders and former lawmakers parting ways with the Imran Khan-led PTI since May 9, the former president has reached Lahore to win over most of the PTI dissidents.

Sources privy to the development told ARY News that Asif Ali Zardari, who is in Lahore now for three days, would welcome a group of south Punjab leaders into his party’s fold today.

Sources told ARY News that more than 15 former lawmakers from South Punjab will announce joining the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) tomorrow. The PTI deserters will make the announcement along with PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari in a press conference.

Sources claimed that the former president will hold a press conference tomorrow at 8:00pm from Makhdoom House in Model Town.

Over 70 PTI leaders and former lawmakers, including Fawad Chaudhry, Shireen Mazari, Aamir Kiyani, Imran Ismail, Ali Zaidi, Abrarul Haq, Amin Aslam, Maleeka Bokhari, Musarrat and Jamshed Cheema, have quit the PTI in light of the May 9 riots.
 
My forefathers migrated from Indian punjab, so i am deeply offended. I am also offended immensely at the term mahajir. How is it "hijrat" if citizens of a country are relocating to their country? Its a very very derogatory term. The people who migrated sacrificed more for this country than the jagirdars and waderas of Punjab and Sindh. Our forefathers gave up everything. Whoever says otherwise, uss per lukh laantein!
 
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In Pakistan everyone who came from India with the exception of Punjabis and Kashmiris is considerded a Muhajir. The majority of those non Punjabis and Kashmiris were Urdu Speaking, so sometimes Muhajir and Urdu speaking are used synonymously. However you will people from pretty much every corner of the subcontinent living in Karachi.

See hats the basic flaw in this definition. Punjabis and pathans settled on the indian side came over too. and they were coming to their own country. its not like pakistan was giving them shelter and they were foreigners.

these designations are an insult to our own people. All Pakistanis are the same and all our forefathers sacrificed for this land.
 
Former President Asif Ali Zardari said that the Government of Pakistan would have given a stronger diplomatic response had he been in power right now.

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He was speaking at the joint session of Parliament held to discuss the recent developments in Kashmir, including the revocation of Article 370 which could possibly lead to a demographic change in the disputed region.

“I would have immediately gone to the UAE, then to China, then to Russia and then to Iran on the way back”, Zardari said.

However, while criticizing Prime Minister Imran Khan’s remarks about whether the opposition wanted him to attack India, emotions seem to get the better of former president Zardari.

In a strange remark, Zardari suggested that migrants or Muhajirs had nothing to do with the creation of Pakistan.

(Remarks begin at the 6 minute mark in the video below)

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It started with a jibe by Zardari at PM Khan, saying that it was Khan and not he (Zardari) who kept roaming around in Bombay.

“I come from Sindh. Sindh and Bangladesh created Pakistan. It was not you who created Pakistan, you were a migrant,” Zardari said.

However, it do not stop here.

“You were made to flee from there and you came to seek refuge here”, Zardari continued.

It is known that Prime Minister Imran Khan’s father Ikramullah Niazi was born in Mianwali. However, his mother Shaukat Khanum was born in Jalandhar and migrated to Pakistan after partition.

But Zardari seemed to have realized the extent of his remarks, and he tried to rectify his mistake.

“You (Muhajirs) are most welcome here, Pakistan was created to accommodate all muslims”.

Former president Zardari also said that the external world was well aware of Pakistan’s place on the international stage.

“Don’t they know the state of our economy, everyone knows”, he said.

He also said that former PM Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto had defied expectations and made a diplomatic masterstroke by getting back land and prisoners of war from India after the 1971 war.

A production order was issued to let Zardari attend the session, who is NAB custody in a fake accounts case.

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...-nothing-to-do-with-the-creation-of-pakistan/

Zardari is an absolute clown and seems way out of his depth here.
 
Brothers ignore this heinous thread. We know the truth. History has recorded it. Some two bit gangster kachra from a cheap cinema saying otherwise isn't going to change it. Ignore.
 
See hats the basic flaw in this definition. Punjabis and pathans settled on the indian side came over too. and they were coming to their own country. its not like pakistan was giving them shelter and they were foreigners.

these designations are an insult to our own people. All Pakistanis are the same and all our forefathers sacrificed for this land.

well said, and as intermarriage increases the ethnic ties will become less and less important. This is already happening, especially in diaspora, and it will only increase in the future.

See hats the basic flaw in this definition. Punjabis and pathans settled on the indian side came over too. and they were coming to their own country. its not like pakistan was giving them shelter and they were foreigners.

Yes but Punjabis came over to West Punjab and could assimilate fairly easily. Even the non Punjabis who came there assimilated as they were a small minority.

In Urban Sindh there was no assimilation into existing culture, as Muhjairs became an overwhelming majority. And as majority of the Muhjairs were Urdu Speaking, the non Urdu Speaking ones assimilated into there culture, and this led to Muhjair and Urdu Speaking being viewed synonymously.

And since Urban and Interior Sindh have a different culture there was more conflict than in Punjab.
 
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