Mushtaq Ahmed appointed as Spin Consultant at NCA

[Abdullah719]

Yasir Shah to work at NCA

Rawalpindi, 12 December 2019:

Pakistan wrist spinner Yasir Shah has been released from the Pakistan national men’s cricket team so that he can work with spin consultant Mushtaq Ahmed at the National Cricket Academy.

Yasir will rejoin the team in Karachi on 16 December, where the second Test will commence on 19 December.

Mushtaq was appointed as spin bowling consultant last week. According to his contract, he will work 120 days in a year at the National Cricket Academy with the U16, U19 and other domestic bowlers. As and when required, he will work with the national team.

 

[arehaan]

This is a welcome change rather than sitting on the bench laying eggs.

 

[ataullah]

Great decision. I hope yasir is taught the googly. How he has survived as a leg spinner without the googly is beyond me

 

[Down2Earth]

A bit worrying that after all the tests he's played and all the wickets he's taken he needs to be coached on where to land the ball and at what speed. You hardly see bowlers decline so much. Rather you expect them to improve somewhat over the years

 

[shah_1]

Good signing

 

[Boi]

Mushy should never have left the spin bowling coach position. Yasir has been lost ever since he went.

 

[MenInG]

Love the way PCB casually mention that Mushy is now spin bowling coach.

 

[Hawkeye]

Absolutely loving these bold and out of the box decisions.

Misbah rocking it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Great decision. I hope yasir is taught the googly. How he has survived as a leg spinner without the googly is beyond me

It's the leg spinner that he needs. Googly will make not a difference to his bowling.

 

[Manik Rao]

Absolutely loving these bold and out of the box decisions.

Misbah rocking it.

Give it a rest dude. It's Mushi (a leggie) that has been hired to coach other leg spinners. So "Out of the box" And not that this is the first time he's working with PCB. He has been bowling consultant & NCA head previously too. Very "out of the box" lol

Selection of Imam & Imran Khan like hacks despite pathetic performances is Wasim Khan's fault, while Mushi's appointment as NCA's spin consultant is because Misbah is rocking it Quit smoking that stuff plz

 

[Hawkeye]

[MENTION=148909]Manik Rao[/MENTION]

Yasir would never have been dropped for a Test series under Inzi/Mickey. In fact, Inzi is outraged why he wasn't selected.

It's good they want him to work on his bowling first. And did not get carried away by that 100 in AUS.

 

[Mueez]

Great choice.

Would love to see Zafar Gohar and Usama Mir work with Mushi.

Also I think this will help Shadab for his bowling skills.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Great decision by the PCB.

 

[Bewal Express]

All these spin consultants and consultants for this and that, are total waste of money. Saqlain made no difference to the England Spinners and nor do any of the other guys. The flaw in Yasirs bowling is a very basic one, his leg spinner doesnt spin, except by accident. His fingers are too far apart and most of his spin is over spin, not side. A leg spinner without a fiercely spun leg break is like Swing bowler who doesnt swing the ball, a total waste of time.

 

[OmarKhan99]

All these spin consultants and consultants for this and that, are total waste of money. Saqlain made no difference to the England Spinners and nor do any of the other guys. The flaw in Yasirs bowling is a very basic one, his leg spinner doesnt spin, except by accident. His fingers are too far apart and most of his spin is over spin, not side. A leg spinner without a fiercely spun leg break is like Swing bowler who doesnt swing the ball, a total waste of time.

I doubt Yasir could get sixteen 5-wicket hauls and could become the fastest bowler in history to 200 wickets without actually knowing how he spun his main delivery: the legbreak. I think that's too simplistic. Also, he rarely took wickets with a big turner, it was more through setting the batsman upon, preying on his patience and then eventually deceving him through the air.

It's quite clear that he's out of rhythm, down on confidence and also, a bit unfit. Hence, he hasn't been able to set a batsman up by bowling consistent line and length.

Yasir always seemed to be a guy that needs guidance on how to help himself out of a rut. Rather than just hoping for him to click back into his pre-2017 rhythm (which we have been doing for quite some time), it's good to let him and Mushy have some chats and identify what exactly is the issue that's had him so off-color recently.

Good decision by the management.

 

[Bewal Express]

I doubt Yasir could get sixteen 5-wicket hauls and could become the fastest bowler in history to 200 wickets without actually knowing how he spun his main delivery: the legbreak. I think that's too simplistic. Also, he rarely took wickets with a big turner, it was more through setting the batsman upon, preying on his patience and then eventually deceving him through the air.

It's quite clear that he's out of rhythm, down on confidence and also, a bit unfit. Hence, he hasn't been able to set a batsman up by bowling consistent line and length.

Yasir always seemed to be a guy that needs guidance on how to help himself out of a rut. Rather than just hoping for him to click back into his pre-2017 rhythm (which we have been doing for quite some time), it's good to let him and Mushy have some chats and identify what exactly is the issue that's had him so off-color recently.

Good decision by the management.

I wrote about this( go back to my posts to the Windies Series in the UAE) way back when he was successful and many criticised me but i saw the problems way before his current travails.
True, he used the ball that skidded on and hit the pad as the main weapon, so the batsman decided to play him as a straight on spinner and guess what happened, his wickets dried up. His bowling will still be effective on low bouncing wickets but his career on good wickets is over unless he can learn to leg spin the ball fiercely.
I can guarantee that he will not wickets against even half decent batsman unless he spins his leg spinner again, because that will create the uncertainty, which brings into play the straight one. Mushtaq himself struggled at the international level because he became too reliant on his googly and lost his leg spinner. I dont think he will make any difference.

 

[ZamanFan]

So much for REFORM and sham changes. Its business as usual for 90s explayer Inzi mafia with Mushtaq Ahmed back to NCA taking free money to do nothing.

Mushtaq has been running U-16 camp, bowling camp, spin camps, chacha camp, samba camp, etc. yet ther is no spinner that has been able to take Yasir Shah's position who is already regressing .

How many spinners are up for selection, NONE. Shows why these spin camps are for.

PCB has no money for local cricketers who are jobless with their careers ruined while PCB as enough to dole out to British nationals belonging to certain mafia camps to take easy money, earn and go back.

This is the same bowler/spinner for whom Inzi with backing of Rashid Latif and other Pakistan XI [1994] tried to use player power against one of the best administrator Pakistan board has seen, Majid Khan. The only administrator who took relevant action against matchfixing.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

So much for REFORM and sham changes. Its business as usual for 90s explayer Inzi mafia with Mushtaq Ahmed back to NCA taking free money to do nothing.

Mushtaq has been running U-16 camp, bowling camp, spin camps, chacha camp, samba camp, etc. yet ther is no spinner that has been able to take Yasir Shah's position who is already regressing .

How many spinners are up for selection, NONE. Shows why these spin camps are for.

PCB has no money for local cricketers who are jobless with their careers ruined while PCB as enough to dole out to British nationals belonging to certain mafia camps to take easy money, earn and go back.

This is the same bowler/spinner for whom Inzi with backing of Rashid Latif and other Pakistan XI [1994] tried to use player power against one of the best administrator Pakistan board has seen, Majid Khan. The only administrator who took relevant action against matchfixing.

Jesus Christ you whine on every thread. You think everything is an evil conspiracy. Just shut it.

 

[ZamanFan]

Jesus Christ you whine on every thread. You think everything is an evil conspiracy. Just shut it.

Hahaha Misbah fan, you won't understand it, you are required to defend on other posts where Misbah needs you.

 

[Titan24]

Good signing but need a spin consultant/coach with a national team as well.

 

[TeymurBlake]

Great move. They need someone of his expertise and experience. I would love to see him given a camp with some upcoming leggies.

 

[ZamanFan]

Good signing but need a spin consultant/coach with a national team as well.

PAkistan team needs batting coach also but then
PCB would have to justify the need for bowling coach Waqar and head coach/batting coach Misbah who are being given handsome packages equivalent to several players of category "A" central contract.

Mushtaq Ahmed has been involved in a lot of camps since 2017 on various contracts, first as assistant bowling coach, then spin camp. Not ONE player was identified or was brought into any QEA or PSL team.

Youhade late Abdul Qadir helping youngsters in his academy more than Mushtaq ever did in NCA.

Most of the spinners came from departments, none helped by Mushtaq Ahmed.
Spin consultant assigned for other teams had other reasons. England took services of Saqlain Mushtaq as spin consultant in 2016 when they lost first test match at Lords thanks to Yasir Shah. They wanted to help their batsmen read and play spin. Yasir Shah was lacklustre aand ineffective in the rest of the series due to England taking help from Saqlain.

This is just mafia trying to keep earning from NCA.

 

[shah_1]

Good signing but need a spin consultant/coach with a national team as well.

Dude he will work with national team plus 120 days at NCA

 

[Titan24]

Dude he will work with national team plus 120 days at NCA

The article says when required he will work with the national team which is fine but Pak needs someone regular in the team management. Still, its better than nothing I guess.

 

[Saj]

Good news but ideally his contract should have been a full-time one.

I guess Mushy wants the opportunity to coach in T20 and T10 Leagues.

 

[Saj]

Regarding Yasir, this may have come from the player himself as he is clearly struggling technically and mentally.

 

[Bewal Express]

Regarding Yasir, this may have come from the player himself as he is clearly struggling technically and mentally.

I will be amazed if Mushy makes any difference. Yasir has to find a guy that can help him spin his leg spinner.

 

[moghul]

Why can;t Misbah be the spin bowling coach ??

 

[Savak]

Yasirs problems started from the England tour of 2016 onwards, that is when I noticed his leg spinner stopped turning prodigously and that he was relying too much on lbws

 

[Justcrazy]

Pakistan need to look beyond Yasir now. These things will not help. These appointments are just there to get more money out of PCB.

 

[sharmaji]

Good decision by PCB. Mushtaq Ahmed was a great spinner in his days who can teach a thing or two to yasir who has clearly lost his mojo. I dont think it will be done by the second test match though, but looks like Yasir will play that match.

 

[Fahdi]

I don't think he's lost his mojo, when it comes to bowling in SENA. I don't think he ever quite had it in him. Yasir has always bowled remarkably flat and was like a leg spinning darter. In places like SA and Aus you have to know how to utilize the extra bounce of the wicket as an additional weapon. I don't think he ever had the sort of style that could make use of that.

 

[Saj]

I will be amazed if Mushy makes any difference. Yasir has to find a guy that can help him spin his leg spinner.

Mushy has in the past and Yasir likes working with Mushy and has a lot of faith in him.

 

[sharmaji]

I agree with you. Thanks.

I don't think he's lost his mojo, when it comes to bowling in SENA. I don't think he ever quite had it in him. Yasir has always bowled remarkably flat and was like a leg spinning darter. In places like SA and Aus you have to know how to utilize the extra bounce of the wicket as an additional weapon. I don't think he ever had the sort of style that could make use of that.

 

[Bewal Express]

Mushy has in the past and Yasir likes working with Mushy and has a lot of faith in him.

I don't see it making any difference. Yasir has to spend his time with Mushy learning to spin his leg spinner, I think the problem is deep seated and Mushy won't be able to help

 

[Hawkeye]

I don't think he's lost his mojo, when it comes to bowling in SENA. I don't think he ever quite had it in him. Yasir has always bowled remarkably flat and was like a leg spinning darter. In places like SA and Aus you have to know how to utilize the extra bounce of the wicket as an additional weapon. I don't think he ever had the sort of style that could make use of that.

Agreed.

Always been trash outside the UAE.

 

[Saj]

I don't see it making any difference. Yasir has to spend his time with Mushy learning to spin his leg spinner, I think the problem is deep seated and Mushy won't be able to help

Could be mental or confidence issues.

Maybe a chat with another leggie and an arm round the shoulder is what he needs.

 

[Bewal Express]

Could be mental or confidence issues.

Maybe a chat with another leggie and an arm round the shoulder is what he needs.

I hope you are right but as I said yesterday, I started a thread about him in 2016 during the Windies matches in the UAE( and at that point he was taking lots of wickets on low bouncing wickets) and I foresaw the problems for leg spinners that don't spin the leg spinner enough to beat the bat.

 

[Hawkeye]

I don't see it making any difference. Yasir has to spend his time with Mushy learning to spin his leg spinner, I think the problem is deep seated and Mushy won't be able to help

Mushy doesn't have a magic stick to transform Yasir into a good leg spinner.

I agree, his problems aren't going away and his time is up or close to it.

 

[Bewal Express]

Mushy doesn't have a magic stick to transform Yasir into a good leg spinner.

I agree, his problems aren't going away and his time is up or close to it.

It's worth a try but I also don't see any positives coming.

 

[sshakir411]

Good call. Mushy is a student of the game...Yasir just needs better guidance and maybe some intelligence. Hopefully they throw Shadab and Usama Mir in the mix too with Mushy because they also need help.

 

[Saj]

The thing I like about Mushy is that whether it's the youngsters or the seasoned players, they all speak highly of him and his work and he's not your orthodox coach who just talks a good game.

 

[azimiqbal]

It’s step in right direction, I would love more ex Pakistani Cricketers being involved. Ideally at lower levels u13,u16,u19 that’s we’re talent comes from

 

[ethan hunt]

Dont know if he is still involved but seems to have been a total waste.
Backing the wrong spin talent.