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My not so positive take on the Pakistan Super League

IPL was played in UAE for few matches in 2014 and the turn out and pitches were great unlike PSL. So you think crap like Junaid, Nawaz, Mills etc are going to trouble Kohli?


Ipl was played in April 2014 in UAE the games were in Abu Dhabi and Sharjah as well

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Indian_Premier_League

U can stroll down at look at the scorecards

The fact is the Dubai pitch that the psl is being played on his helping the pacers and is being played in much cooler condition of February than April where it is hot

Also the scores are not very huge even in ipl 2014 uae not many 190+ scores .
 
IPL was played in UAE for few matches in 2014 and the turn out and pitches were great unlike PSL. So you think crap like Junaid, Nawaz, Mills etc are going to trouble Kohli?

Also before u diss the crap bowlers of psl

Do remember the likes of tambe , bhatia , kulkarni , binny , Kane Richardson , awana , murali Kartik
Balaji in your ipl 2014


A lot of lallu bowlers that are worse than junaid , mills , nawaz

As for junaid I think your being harsh he's not bad at white ball cricket at domestic level he was rated in England t20 and did well here for Lancashire

Psl was never meant to be intl class and every player to be some gun player at intl level
 
Also before u diss the crap bowlers of psl

Do remember the likes of tambe , bhatia , kulkarni , binny , Kane Richardson , awana , murali Kartik
Balaji in your ipl 2014


A lot of lallu bowlers that are worse than junaid , mills , nawaz

As for junaid I think your being harsh he's not bad at white ball cricket at domestic level he was rated in England t20 and did well here for Lancashire

Psl was never meant to be intl class and every player to be some gun player at intl level

Half of the bowlers you mentioned aren't even picked now in IPL and Kane Richardson was always a talented albeit an unknown commodity. They have got international top class bowlers like Rabada, Starc, Cummins too.
 
IPL was played in UAE for few matches in 2014 and the turn out and pitches were great unlike PSL. So you think crap like Junaid, Nawaz, Mills etc are going to trouble Kohli?

Half of the bowlers you mentioned aren't even picked now in IPL and Kane Richardson was always a talented albeit an unknown commodity. They have got international top class bowlers like Rabada, Starc, Cummins too.


Yes but why are you even comparing ipl with psl

When you fully well know that psl is not on ipl level , does not have the huge finance pazaz , crowds and star quality ipl has or even big bash .

Psl is a tournament still teething and it's good progress for Pakistan cricket its competition is Bangladesh and Caribbean league .
 
Yes but why are you even comparing ipl with psl

When you fully well know that psl is not on ipl level , does not have the huge finance pazaz , crowds and star quality ipl has or even big bash .

Psl is a tournament still teething and it's good progress for Pakistan cricket its competition is Bangladesh and Caribbean league .

Because you first compared by saying that standard of bowling in IPL is low.
 
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IPL was played in UAE for few matches in 2014 and the turn out and pitches were great unlike PSL. So you think crap like Junaid, Nawaz, Mills etc are going to trouble Kohli?

I have seen this mentioned a few times. However, India doesn't play in the UAE so that was the only opportunity for cricket fans there to watch the likes of Kohli, Dhoni, Yuvi etc. Pakistan has been using UAE as home ground for nearly 10 years.
 
Because you first compared by saying that standard of bowling in IPL is low.

No I didn't claim anything about the ipl

U dissed the psl and claimed it's rubbish and fear for its future , and uae pitch excuse doesn't count because ipl was played in 2014 on uae .

I then replied by saying the pitch has favoured the seamers and bowling and fielding have been very good and likes of kohli and dhoni would probably struggle . And if psl ends up a failure it will be the backers and organisers behind it .

U came back and gave a list of bowlers who kohli would spank even though one of them has made kohli look like a clown in India at intl level and isn't such a bowler that he should not even play in a domestic league where he is more than good enough to play .

Since when has there been a criteria that every single player in a domestic franchise league must be some world class player currently at top of the international game .


I then replied with list of if ipl matches in UAE 2014 in April not cooler February , showing you the scores in particular the Dubai games overall not many 190+ scores alongside a small list of some of the Indian bowlers who were serving the pies in that 2014 series .
 
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Honestly this league cricket is extremly boring for me. I tune in to watch upcoming youngsters play otherwise it's not entertaining at all.
 
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PSL should be played in Pakistan. I am sure some of overseas player are willing to play. They can be paid little more since it will also be cheaper to conduct a match in Pakistan (security arrangements might be costly considering recent bomb blast history).

With empty stadium it doesn't look good at all and on top of that boring low scoring matches. People come to watch confident batsmen dominating bowlers (there should be help for bowlers too, like make boundaries bigger, so that scoring a six is not so easy).

It's more looking like an ESL(empty stadium league) than PSL.
 
Regarding graphics, PSL2 were astonishingly good these seasons have underwhelming in general, if you see a match of Quetta, Lahore or Karachi there the graphics show it’s full potential. Not gonna lie myself prefer last year one but one good thing about PSL? It’s never the same for the good or bad.
 
Holding the psl in UAE was a mistake from the start, due to not having the revenues and capital like Ipl has its costing too much for pcb to play in UAE

If Sethi has any sense he should organise a league in Sri Lanka, and bring Sri Lankan and Bangladeshi teams into the competition
with maybe extending an invitation to the winner of the big bash league and winner of the Caribbean league , and an Afghan team

Players would be attracted to Sri Lanka also the hosting costs would be reduced compared to UAE and you will have better crowds, and the pitches are much better than UAE .
 
Holding the psl in UAE was a mistake from the start, due to not having the revenues and capital like Ipl has its costing too much for pcb to play in UAE

If Sethi has any sense he should organise a league in Sri Lanka, and bring Sri Lankan and Bangladeshi teams into the competition
with maybe extending an invitation to the winner of the big bash league and winner of the Caribbean league , and an Afghan team

Players would be attracted to Sri Lanka also the hosting costs would be reduced compared to UAE and you will have better crowds, and the pitches are much better than UAE .

Imo this idea is destined to be a big fail
 
IPL was played in UAE for few matches in 2014 and the turn out and pitches were great unlike PSL. So you think crap like Junaid, Nawaz, Mills etc are going to trouble Kohli?

And the crap you mentioned was the 3rd highest wicket take in CT 17. If thats the case most of the bowlers in cricket are crap.
 
All those saying that PSL will face issues to survive need to do bit of research.

Firstly the model of PSL planned was based upon the revenue from sponsors and broadcasting rather than the tickets sales. They were not foolish enough to think that tickets sale is gonna be main revenue source especially in Dubai. Even franchises knew it.

Secondly the 6th team of PSL was sold for double the price of the most expensive team among the previous 5. There were 32 (ellegible) bids for the 6th franchise.

I only see franchise price and number of bids rising especially when more and more matches are being played in Pakistan.

This league is only gonna go up, the way more bigger and bigger sponsors are coming every year and TV ads are being sponsored by top groups.
 
Kind of glad and somewhat surprised people are calling a spade, a spade. Thought people would take any criticism as a hit on national pride or something. Happy that some people have proven me wrong.

I turned on Prime TV on the weekend. Watched for 10-15 mins, and then switched channels.

I thought back in season that I would give it a chance. Didn't like it then, don't like it now. The product is poor. Mediocre players, playing mediocre cricket.

For full disclosure, I will admit that I find all T20 leagues soulless, and for me they are nothing compared to international cricket. I just cannot get invested into them.
 
PSL just dont have Devasting Batting Performances which is what people want to see. That why is looks boring.

T20 is fun to watch when some random batsman demolishes opposition.
 
To make PSL great, its Pakistan who have to add local player into PSL with exceptional power hitting ability . Becuase, when your local lad bat like that, people automaticaly attracts towards it. They want to see thier player doing such things.
 
India continued to play Ganguly,Dravid etc way after their prime in the IPL
why should Pakistan get rid of the deadwood so early?

Bro, Ganguly and Dravid are two of the finest players India have ever produced. One was an excellent captain and the other a tremendous batsmen. People wanted to watch them and they had the experience younger players benefitted from.

Only Afridi is the selling ‘product’ in PSL. You probably would not want to watch Iftikhar Ahmed, even for free.

Coming back to the question about crowd, why are people surprised? There are hardly any spectators watching Pakistan matches so why would poor guys travel so far for this?

Only in Pakistan you can get good crowds but then not many foreign players will take part so you better keep playing Faysal Bank T20 there and in Dubai you will have slow wicketd and poor attendance, so a lose lose situation for PSL really.

But in the end it’s better than no cricket at all.
 
Too much is made of international stars.... how many international stars are in the BBL yet people will go hoarse claiming that BBL is the second best league out there.
 
Too much is made of international stars.... how many international stars are in the BBL yet people will go hoarse claiming that BBL is the second best league out there.
International stars are a must. Imagine Ibtisam Sheikh bowling to AB De Villiers or David Warner. IDoubt he would feel any pressure if he makes his international debut. The kind of exposure it would to give our rising stars cannot be expressed in words.
 
IPL was played in UAE for few matches in 2014 and the turn out and pitches were great unlike PSL. So you think crap like Junaid, Nawaz, Mills etc are going to trouble Kohli?

Indian population is greater in UAE
Indian players playing there after a gap of so many years
 
Bro, Ganguly and Dravid are two of the finest players India have ever produced. One was an excellent captain and the other a tremendous batsmen. People wanted to watch them and they had the experience younger players benefitted from.

Only Afridi is the selling ‘product’ in PSL. You probably would not want to watch Iftikhar Ahmed, even for free.

Coming back to the question about crowd, why are people surprised? There are hardly any spectators watching Pakistan matches so why would poor guys travel so far for this?

Only in Pakistan you can get good crowds but then not many foreign players will take part so you better keep playing Faysal Bank T20 there and in Dubai you will have slow wicketd and poor attendance, so a lose lose situation for PSL really.

But in the end it’s better than no cricket at all.

Bro they were way past their prime

So were Zaheer,Nehra but they continued playing IPL so your argument that PSL promotes deadwood has no substance
 
Yet again, another over-reaction. Go back and look through the threads of last year. It's the same cycle.

Once the tournaments moves to Sharjah, you'll see the crowds and as it progresses, you'll see the teams gel and have closer matches.

For those complaining about the commercials, take it up with your broadcaster and I doubt it's something that would have changed from previous years.

I've been watching on Willow and it's been in HD with no overs interrupted.
 
Mickey wanted 2 unearth 2 new players, but base on current condion we may be lucky to get even 1 player from this tournament. Too many useless and old players spoil the charm(Misbah, Shafiq, Anwar, Rahat,Gul......)
 
The batting in PSL is very mediocre.

PSL must try to get foreign players who are regular in their teams squads. Thats how you get people hooked upto the game. You need star power to make people watch the games.

Pakistan at this point in time lacks superstars, people will flock to watch 2Ws or Anwar or Akhtar or Saqlain. They had that star power the charishma the onfield performance to get people hooked onto the game.

Before people jump in to talk about Hassan Ali or Amir or Shah, sorry they are not superstars who drag people to watch the game.
 
Bro they were way past their prime

So were Zaheer,Nehra but they continued playing IPL so your argument that PSL promotes deadwood has no substance

Nehra was playing for team india till few months back. The likes of Ganguly or Dravid get people to the matches. They have huge fan following plus they can teach the youngsters.
 
The batting in PSL is very mediocre.

PSL must try to get foreign players who are regular in their teams squads. Thats how you get people hooked upto the game. You need star power to make people watch the games.

Pakistan at this point in time lacks superstars, people will flock to watch 2Ws or Anwar or Akhtar or Saqlain. They had that star power the charishma the onfield performance to get people hooked onto the game.

Before people jump in to talk about Hassan Ali or Amir or Shah, sorry they are not superstars who drag people to watch the game.
Hasan, Shadab, Fakhar and Amir will drag Pakistan fans to the stadium. These players may not be household names all over world, but they are superstars in Pakistan. We don't care if neutrals are attracted by these players or not. This is the Pakistan Super League and its for Pakistan fans.
 
Hasan, Shadab, Fakhar and Amir will drag Pakistan fans to the stadium. These players may not be household names all over world, but they are superstars in Pakistan. We don't care if neutrals are attracted by these players or not. This is the Pakistan Super League and its for Pakistan fans.

So why are the stadiums half empty?
 
So why are the stadiums half empty?

Because it's been hosted in UAE

If the matches were held in regional cities of Pakistan , the stadiums would be full

How do u expect mazdur in UAE to afford tickets , get their Arab Slave master to give them time off and spend money getting to a stadium in the middle of no where .
 
Because it's been hosted in UAE

If the matches were held in regional cities of Pakistan , the stadiums would be full

How do u expect mazdur in UAE to afford tickets , get their Arab Slave master to give them time off and spend money getting to a stadium in the middle of no where .

IPL was well attended.
 
PSL exposing lack of pak batsmen... ur IPL rejects like 50 yr old sangas and boparas r best batsman...
 
Give me a flat pitch, along with a lightning fast outfield, so that average score could be 180 or more, then I will ignore this crowd thing as well, at least give us entertainment, the entertainment factor is very low.
 
Players like Mohammad Rizwan, Ahmed Shehzad, Khurram Manzoor and Asad Shafiq are costing PSL; these guys should be replaced with young talented cricketers
 
I would like to add this;

It feels so clichéd to attach TV people (actors, singers etc) to PSL. I haven't seen Australia doing it in BBL. Why do we have to copy India most of the times?
 
We don't have a billion people with another half billion spreading over to other countries.

It's not much about the population in UAE. I would personally go to watch ABD, Starc and other superstars, but not Dinesh Ramdin and the likes, considering that commuting to the stadium is decently expensive.
 
Whatever people think abroad who cares. PSL is the big thing in Pakistan and people love this. Hopefully the tournament will move to Pakistan next year and it will get more better.
 
I would like to add this;

It feels so clichéd to attach TV people (actors, singers etc) to PSL. I haven't seen Australia doing it in BBL. Why do we have to copy India most of the times?

IPL never attached TV people
And if you talk about the involvement of bollywood ths bollywood stars are actual owners of teams..and they are not paid cheerleaders...And not a single IPL franchise have a Brand ambassador from entertainment industry
 
IPL never attached TV people
And if you talk about the involvement of bollywood ths bollywood stars are actual owners of teams..and they are not paid cheerleaders...And not a single IPL franchise have a Brand ambassador from entertainment industry

Ok, fine, I take my statement back. This should be the way to go in PSL as well.
 
5 overs gone and graphics still messed up

Player names, score not visiable as of yet
 
This PSL 2018 has produced more one sided matches which is not good for brand PSL itself.

Crowd and sponsors want nail-biting finish.
 
Picture quality and sound quality seems to be even worse in Sharjah.
 
Picture quality and sound quality seems to be even worse in Sharjah.

Will get worse when PSL moves to Pakistan. Really need HD Quality in today's world.
 
If they knew that ticket sales were terrible, why not give tickets to school children or even give out free tickets to the public instead of showing the world empty stadiums containing mainly freeloaders.
 
Have to agree with the OP. The PSL is turning out to be a complete disaster, and I do not think playing in Pakistan will make things much better.

Sure we will get better crowds, but what about the pool of players? The quality of cricket is rubbish and things are likely to get worse because some of the half-decent players playing in the UAE are likely to opt out if the tournament is moved to Pakistan on a permanent basis.
 
There seem to be more VIPs and people with passes roaming around and freeloaders than actual paying fans in the stadiums.
 
Either have it in Pakistan or go for one or two big names in each team.
Nobody in Dubai would like to see Ravi Bopara slamming Sohail Tanvir's pies.
 
There seem to be more VIPs and people with passes roaming around and freeloaders than actual paying fans in the stadiums.

This old news. Its a fact that even in PSL 1 crowds are low in UAE.

Lets wait till PSL is over. People are too negative.
 
The PSL is a very good reflection of where Pakistan cricket stands today - mediocre, painfully average and largely irrelevant.
 
The PSL is a very good reflection of where Pakistan cricket stands today - mediocre, painfully average and largely irrelevant.

Seems harsh but painfully true for now... But just like everything else PSL can improve too. I expect it to do well as Pakistan will produce good cricketers if they get their system fixed. After all it is a country with 210 million population and a rich history in cricket. PCB current target should be to move PSL to Pakistan or risk losing the brand
 
The PSL is a very good reflection of where Pakistan cricket stands today - mediocre, painfully average and largely irrelevant.

It needs to be hosted in PAK, with whatever foreigners available. I am sure many regular Internationals will be in PAK. To be honest, if I were a owner, I would have picked Sikandar Raza instead of Watson or KP at this age. Their job is done with PSL into 3rd year.

UAE isn't a good place for cricket, neither healthy - PCB should always keep distance with such stinky places. Besides, more than cricket, here they are interested to sell media celebrities, which won't be the case in PAK - young & middle class people will come to watch cricket which is what it's needed. In BD games, looking at the crowd, first thing you'll feel that it's a poor, uncultured country with hardly any glamour - the reason is there it's the working middle class attends in mass; the rich hardly bothers for sports as they have other avenues for "fun". Whatever from that "class" comes mostly on free ticket, that too not for the love of the game, rather to have a selfi or a camera shot.

I believe same for PAK - instead of these paid plastic faces, what it needs is the taxi driver of Karachi to attend stadium, the restaurant boy to cheer at the digital screen on Lahore streets, which will take the game forward. Unless PSL reaches PAK 100% by next year, it'll die prematurely - if PAK Govt., security agencies can't protect that at home, cricket will die eventually. This UAE model is not going to work, rather I am afraid more PAK players will find them in trouble if PSL & PAK home games are arranged in that place.
 
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It needs to be hosted in PAK, with whatever foreigners available. I am sure many regular Internationals will be in PAK. To be honest, if I were a owner, I would have picked Sikandar Raza instead of Watson or KP at this age. Their job is done with PSL into 3rd year.

UAE isn't a good place for cricket, neither healthy - PCB should always keep distance with such stinky places. Besides, more than cricket, here they are interested to sell media celebrities, which won't be the case in PAK - young & middle class people will come to watch cricket which is what it's needed. In BD games, looking at the crowd, first thing you'll feel that it's a poor, uncultured country with hardly any glamour - the reason is there it's the working middle class attends in mass; the rich hardly bothers for sports as they have other avenues for "fun". Whatever from that "class" comes mostly on free ticket, that too not for the love of the game, rather to have a selfi or a camera shot.

I believe same for PAK - instead of these paid plastic faces, what it needs is the taxi driver of Karachi to attend stadium, the restaurant boy to cheer at the digital screen on Lahore streets, which will take the game forward. Unless PSL reaches PAK 100% by next year, it'll die prematurely - if PAK Govt., security agencies can't protect that at home, cricket will die eventually. This UAE model is not going to work, rather I am afraid more PAK players will find them in trouble if PSL & PAK home games are arranged in that place.

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It needs to be hosted in PAK, with whatever foreigners available. I am sure many regular Internationals will be in PAK. To be honest, if I were a owner, I would have picked Sikandar Raza instead of Watson or KP at this age. Their job is done with PSL into 3rd year.

UAE isn't a good place for cricket, neither healthy - PCB should always keep distance with such stinky places. Besides, more than cricket, here they are interested to sell media celebrities, which won't be the case in PAK - young & middle class people will come to watch cricket which is what it's needed. In BD games, looking at the crowd, first thing you'll feel that it's a poor, uncultured country with hardly any glamour - the reason is there it's the working middle class attends in mass; the rich hardly bothers for sports as they have other avenues for "fun". Whatever from that "class" comes mostly on free ticket, that too not for the love of the game, rather to have a selfi or a camera shot.

I believe same for PAK - instead of these paid plastic faces, what it needs is the taxi driver of Karachi to attend stadium, the restaurant boy to cheer at the digital screen on Lahore streets, which will take the game forward. Unless PSL reaches PAK 100% by next year, it'll die prematurely - if PAK Govt., security agencies can't protect that at home, cricket will die eventually. This UAE model is not going to work, rather I am afraid more PAK players will find them in trouble if PSL & PAK home games are arranged in that place.

I agree with this, but my main concern is that the quality of cricket is going to dilute further. I am not sure if I am going to been keen to watch some associate and minnow cricketers playing in packed stadiums.

PCB is in a tight spot here. It is a trade-off between empty stadiums/decent cricketers and packed stadiums/rubbish cricketers. PSL fan following is established in Pakistan and people have started to develop loyalty to the franchises, so I suppose that they can afford to lower the quality of the tournament to attract more people to the grounds.

All in all, it is pretty clear that the PSL has reached its saturation point in the UAE. The folks there no longer seem care about it, and the overall package is only getting worse and worse. PSL 1 was good, PSL 2 was acceptable, but PSL 3 has been a nightmare so far.
 
I agree with this, but my main concern is that the quality of cricket is going to dilute further. I am not sure if I am going to been keen to watch some associate and minnow cricketers playing in packed stadiums.

PCB is in a tight spot here. It is a trade-off between empty stadiums/decent cricketers and packed stadiums/rubbish cricketers. PSL fan following is established in Pakistan and people have started to develop loyalty to the franchises, so I suppose that they can afford to lower the quality of the tournament to attract more people to the grounds.

All in all, it is pretty clear that the PSL has reached its saturation point in the UAE. The folks there no longer seem care about it, and the overall package is only getting worse and worse. PSL 1 was good, PSL 2 was acceptable, but PSL 3 has been a nightmare so far.



It won't, trust me. PAK itself has enough players to make 6 competitive T20 teams - add to that 4/5 regular Internationals in their 20s, quality will be much better than what it is now. Besides, now PSL is being used for nourishing obsolete cricketers (both home & foreign), cricketers who are using their image from 10 years back to make money. It's a shame even to look at Misbah with that beard to lead a team of young man's game (no insult to Misbah or beard, but it's just so odd to see). Besides, with money, superior coaching staff, effective scouting ......... I am sure there will be many young cricketers coming from PAK who'll give 120% for a name in PSL, even for token money. It has to come into a system, which will find it's own way to survive and grow itself. I am sure, I am sure if proper scouting are placed, PSL can find much, much, much better than serving Iftekhar or Sohail Tanvir a Gold contract:(

Besides, PSL will force PSB to behave properly - no way people investing in billions will allow PCB to arrange PSL where we see a game between cricket & hockey. These people will hire professionals to suggest/consult them how & for what franchises need to squeeze PCBs balls, so that it hurts, hurts enough that they start to run for their life. Rest assured, the joke that PCB runs in the name of PAK domestics, PSL won't allow it to continue like that. I am sure today, biggest interest for most people here in PP was to see the youngsters of IU (Misbah spoiled the party though by dropping Farhan) - it'll be same in PAK as well; people will follow keenly which new youngsters are unleashed; you don't need star names always to engage fans.

Another factor which is missing in PSL is that there is no fan base - something that can take PSL beyond players' quality. I give a classic example which you'll understand - Ittehad stadium has 58K capacity, the most glamorous Manager of the game and a squad which TransferMkt.com values just about a billion dollar - hardly Ittehad is ever sold out and their average occupancy was below 80% till last year (don't know this year). Compared to that, St. James Park (New Castle) or Allen Road (Leeds), has capacity of 52K & 38K - average attendance was 48K & 35K respectively - even at Championship. One step further is Coventry City - their 32K Ricoh Arena is sold out even for a 2nd division (4th tier in English League) game every week; it's cheap ticket compared to EPL, but people are filling that ground to cheer for their team, at the same time when they could have watched MU taking Liverpool in TV!!!! This is what City based fan and PSL has to develop that - which only possible if it's arranged in PAK.

That was from positive angle - unbelievable potential, but people are missing the risk of running PSL in UAE with this chemotherapy survival. In today's' world gate money hardly matters, therefore I don't bother about how many attends at Dubai; BUT what matters is TV/on-line money & endorsements. The quality of PSL I see in UAE, if this goes on, even most die hard PAK fan won't waste sleep till 1 AM to watch it - there goes the TV money and PSL will surely, surely die if sponsors lose interest. Take today's game - QG played a clinical match, and I could see their strategy - target was reachable on a sluggish wicket, but on a small ground. So, they raced in fast few overs, brought asking down, then kept wicket in middle overs by strolling to make sure that they can avoid a LQ like collapse; as a double cover they kept Sarfraz & Mahmudullah back - and in between took advantage of that 50+ metre boundary to close in with selective hits. They made sure that, if they bat out 20 overs, there is only one winner, which is the most boring strategy for T20. Here in PP, I am sure majority didn't see their clinical chase, let alone mass people, who don't spend daily 2 hours in PP analyzing game - they'll simply loose interest if a T20 is played couple of years like this "clinical" way - that's the end of PSL.

For it's survival, PSL has to come in PAK, absolutely no alternative. It's better to arrange National T20 in PAK, than PSL in UAE with AB, Kohli, Strac, Stokes, Shakib, Warner..... in it. Initial 2/3 years, I understand, but now UAE is a negative connotation and to change that, PAK Govt. has to support PCB far better than that Presidential security. Do whatever needed, engage whoever is required to make the Game zone safe & incident free for those few days; if required pass new bill - empowering security agencies to even shoot at 1st sight in "red zone" & shoot to kill - then see whose corps it is, if there is any suspicious act. Most terror acts are conducted with a strategic objective - make sure that business case becomes too costly for them - couple of years successful arrangements, PSL will loose it's lucrativeness as a target.

PCB can't force International teams to tour PAK, because of many other factors outside cricket. But, PSL is beyond politics or policy - mature people are free to tour any country on their own and this is the scope of bringing cricket back in PAK. Pay handsomely to few names rather than this bulk purchase, and pay them sweet enough (not only players, even coach, support staff, media partners) and engage professionals to explain security arrangements - I am sure even Tom Moody won't mind to stay in PAK for 6 weeks in VIP status for money that covers his annual luxury.
 
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A balanced insightful post instead of the “Pakistan is mediocre” and “PSL is a cheap IPL rip off” rubbish we hear.
 
The batting averages aren't displayed in the information section of batsmen, which is quite frustrating. S/R and runs don't tell the whole story at all. Last year, and even in PSL 1, batting averages were displayed.

The other worry for the future is, that we don't have any exciting T20 batsmen in the bank, after Afridi retires, things will get boring, at least for me, as I don't see any other exciting batsman who can bat entertainingly. Let's hope we unearth some exciting power hitters, if not, then the future of Pakistan cricket will be boring, and will turn people off.
 
Is the Pakistan Super League really that good for Pakistan cricket?

We have players specializing in all other formats except T20s competing to catch the eye of the dormant chief selector. We have the longer format players like Saud Shakeel; Saad Ali or Sahibzada Farhan (not suited for T20s) trying to (or will be trying to) change their natural game just so that they can be just a blip in the radar of the chief selector. Some bowlers are also suffering a similar fate.

I think the players who excel in the other formats are getting a raw deal here but I do not blame PSL but the whole domestic system, but that's not changing anytime soon.
 
Of course it is good, especially for the limited overs format. Without the PSL's mainstream highlight of Shadab, Fakhar, Nawaz etc, how many of these guys would have gotten a shot in the Pakistan side at the right time?

But it is problematic if the chief selector doesnt do his job and only relies on PSL matches to formulate ODI and test sides. Hopefully selectors for watch FC and List A cricket too and keep an eye on the various academies. That is not a PSL issue but a cultural/systemic issue.
 
I´ve seen a lot of people, my father included, complain about the lack of big scores in the PSL. It sounds noble, fair enough, but you´ve to be realistic about the pitches in the UAE and the inferior quality of batsmen participating in it - or at least the lack of quality hitters such as de Villiers, Maxwell etc. Now, quite on the contrary, the trend has always been that if a team gets to a big score thanks to one-man brilliance or how ever, the other can´t get anywhere near it which makes it end up as a boring, one-sided affair.

It may not be as pleasing to watch up until the finishing overs, but the advantage of a low-scoring match on these UAE pitches is that you end up with the thriller more often than not. So as a viewer I´d personally take that over a match in which one team gets to 180 and the other, in pursuit of it, loses four wickets for 30 runs within the powerplay to have the match being done and dusted there itself.
 
I´ve seen a lot of people, my father included, complain about the lack of big scores in the PSL. It sounds noble, fair enough, but you´ve to be realistic about the pitches in the UAE and the inferior quality of batsmen participating in it - or at least the lack of quality hitters such as de Villiers, Maxwell etc. Now, quite on the contrary, the trend has always been that if a team gets to a big score thanks to one-man brilliance or how ever, the other can´t get anywhere near it which makes it end up as a boring, one-sided affair.

It may not be as pleasing to watch up until the finishing overs, but the advantage of a low-scoring match on these UAE pitches is that you end up with the thriller more often than not. So as a viewer I´d personally take that over a match in which one team gets to 180 and the other, in pursuit of it, loses four wickets for 30 runs within the powerplay to have the match being done and dusted there itself.

Chasing big scores in T20 will give more thrill than scraping to win in low scoring maches for spectators.

IPL BBL get lot of crowd, Reasons: both leagues are played on home countries + big hits + high scoring chases more often than not, etc..all add to entertainment quotiont :19:
 
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Chasing big scores in T20 will give more thrill than scraping to win in low scoring maches for spectators.

IPL BBL get lot of crowd, Reasons: both leagues are played on home countries + big hits + high scoring chases more often than not, etc..all add to entertainment quotiont :19:

Sir, this idea has been addressed in details in my post that you´ve quoted......

".... It sounds noble, fair enough, but you´ve to be realistic about the pitches in the UAE and the inferior quality of batsmen participating in it - or at least the lack of quality hitters such as de Villiers, Maxwell etc..... "

The UAE pitches are the bigger concern or reason behind it in my opinion. So yeah, as you´ve mentioned, those leagues are played on home pitches - basically, very different type of wickets than those provided over here in the UAE.
 
Sir, this idea has been addressed in details in my post that you´ve quoted......

".... It sounds noble, fair enough, but you´ve to be realistic about the pitches in the UAE and the inferior quality of batsmen participating in it - or at least the lack of quality hitters such as de Villiers, Maxwell etc..... "

The UAE pitches are the bigger concern or reason behind it in my opinion. So yeah, as you´ve mentioned, those leagues are played on home pitches - basically, very different type of wickets than those provided over here in the UAE.

Echoed your sentiments bro, this forum is for the same purpose to debate, to counter, to agree, to reiterate views.. cheers :19:
 
Sir, this idea has been addressed in details in my post that you´ve quoted......

".... It sounds noble, fair enough, but you´ve to be realistic about the pitches in the UAE and the inferior quality of batsmen participating in it - or at least the lack of quality hitters such as de Villiers, Maxwell etc..... "

The UAE pitches are the bigger concern or reason behind it in my opinion. So yeah, as you´ve mentioned, those leagues are played on home pitches - basically, very different type of wickets than those provided over here in the UAE.

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How are you? All good?

More than pitches its the quality of batters.
 
All those saying that PSL will face issues to survive need to do bit of research.

Firstly the model of PSL planned was based upon the revenue from sponsors and broadcasting rather than the tickets sales. They were not foolish enough to think that tickets sale is gonna be main revenue source especially in Dubai. Even franchises knew it.

Secondly the 6th team of PSL was sold for double the price of the most expensive team among the previous 5. There were 32 (ellegible) bids for the 6th franchise.

I only see franchise price and number of bids rising especially when more and more matches are being played in Pakistan.

This league is only gonna go up, the way more bigger and bigger sponsors are coming every year and TV ads are being sponsored by top groups.

Exactly. Too many here post negative things because it is something to do with Pakistan and nothing else. Brawn sahabs the lot of them.

When you have McDonalds sponsoring one of the sides, you know something is going right. On top of all that, ticket sales are not the main source of revenue for any major league on this planet, in any sport. Who thinks that is stuck in 1965.
 
Echoed your sentiments bro, this forum is for the same purpose to debate, to counter, to agree, to reiterate views.. cheers :19:
Cheers man! :19:
Hey
How are you? All good?
Yes man, all is as well as has never been before, and thankfully, my health to has relented a great deal the recent three-four months as I feel much better again. I hope all´s well on your side and in your country. :)

The fever of the PSL and the fun of its fantasy league competition has brought me back to this forum, as otherwise my passion for the game has diminished a lot the recent times.
 
You can't have even a half full cricket stadium in Dubai since not all expats watch cricket. The only guaranteed full house is if the games are played in Pakistan which would mean loosing a quite a few foreign player's. Most of the foreign players in the current PSL are anyways at the end of their career's and would probably be ok playing inside Pakistan. However a stadium even at its full capacity does not translate into profit for PSL. Most of the monies come from sponsorship's and unless sponsors are willing to back it up, it will continue to loose money.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/291477-losing-sponsors-psl-franchises-are-fuming
 
It has been quite entertaining so far. And, the preliminary round was active till last 2 games. May be 4 out of 6 will always end like this, but still it was too close. I don’t watch T20 for quality of cricket, therefore it’s least of my botheration - as many games like the LQ-KK/PZ & as less as the IU-KK, the better.

But, I don’t like this uncertainty of who is going and who isn’t at the business end. Like last year it might end in a quite ordinary last game (s). Already, I see entire focus on which Shahebzada is going to PAK & which not - when, today we should have been discussing on combination, condition, atmosphere, pitch, strategy, tactics .....

Besides, now they are allowing to pick players at will, even from other franchise like Perera - this might create problem in future. I read lots of spicy posts regarding BPL’s rolling roster, and that’s applicable here as well. Difference is BPL’s rolling roster was to accommodate players international window, it was pre-scheduled & rotation was pre-planned. Here, franchise are forced to pick whoever is available - it might end in a squire peg in round hole.


Stop this nonsense PCB - plan to shift entire PSL to PAK next year (subject to GoP assurance & support - repetition of last SRL tour is not suggested here), declare schedule & venue before draft. I am sure, to our surprise we might see few names in that draft, who had life threat, family issues etc.... I already see quite few surprising names in the tour party to PAK - it’ll grow next year. After that, who cares for few spill overs.
 
I´ve seen a lot of people, my father included, complain about the lack of big scores in the PSL. It sounds noble, fair enough, but you´ve to be realistic about the pitches in the UAE and the inferior quality of batsmen participating in it - or at least the lack of quality hitters such as de Villiers, Maxwell etc. Now, quite on the contrary, the trend has always been that if a team gets to a big score thanks to one-man brilliance or how ever, the other can´t get anywhere near it which makes it end up as a boring, one-sided affair.

It may not be as pleasing to watch up until the finishing overs, but the advantage of a low-scoring match on these UAE pitches is that you end up with the thriller more often than not. So as a viewer I´d personally take that over a match in which one team gets to 180 and the other, in pursuit of it, loses four wickets for 30 runs within the powerplay to have the match being done and dusted there itself.

Chasing big scores in T20 will give more thrill than scraping to win in low scoring maches for spectators.

IPL BBL get lot of crowd, Reasons: both leagues are played on home countries + big hits + high scoring chases more often than not, etc..all add to entertainment quotiont :19:

Average 1st innings score in this PSL is 152 so far with 1/3rd of them being 170+.
 
Average 1st innings score in this PSL is 152 so far with 1/3rd of them being 170+.

My point was not only high scoring batting first, rather team batting second chasing or at least coming close to high score target.

Anyway, I didn't watch PSL, wil not be appropriate to comment more. Just gave my opinion.

If you are regular to PP, you won't find much comments from me in PSL match threads! #Cheers
 
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From next a majority of the tournament should be held in Pakistan. UAE has poor quality of pitches which I have ranted about enough. Also the atmosphere isn't that great at times. In Pakistan pitches can be made into batting friendly pitches during PSL time and also the grounds will be packed.

We may miss out on top overseas players but hosting the PSL is our best chance of getting international cricket back to Pakistan. Some of the overseas players in the PSL are abspilte rubbish anyway. I would rather see unknown Pakistan players than see Ramdin and Fletcher take spots. There's enough players in domestic to make sure teams are competitive . The team at the top of the table this year so far is the team with the best domestic players amongst the franchise and they are young as well.

Once PSL is back in Pakistan , you can mark this post only the IPL will be the only T20 league that will be better.
 
The solution is to host the ENTIRE PSL in Pakistan next year and reduce foreign quota to 3 players. Quality > Quantity ofc.

Players who are willing to go this year would probably be fine with playing the entire tournament in Pakistan next year (assuming everything goes well iA). That means players like Duminy, Ronchi, Rossouw, Tahir, Morkel, Miller (World XI series), Tamim, Shakib, Fizz would be willing to come. They aren’t “shooperstars” but they are still quality players who will boost the overall quality of the league.
 
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