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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chairman PCB <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@najamsethi</a> submits his resignation to Prime Minister, Imran Khan. <a href="https://t.co/h4Yr3EevE3">pic.twitter.com/h4Yr3EevE3</a></p>— PCB Official (@TheRealPCB) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB/status/1031546529880989696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chairman PCB <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@najamsethi</a> submits his resignation to Prime Minister, Imran Khan. <a href="https://t.co/h4Yr3EevE3">pic.twitter.com/h4Yr3EevE3</a></p>— PCB Official (@TheRealPCB) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB/status/1031546529880989696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Aray koi rok sako to rok lo!!!!
 
Don't let the door hit you on the way out


:sendoff
 
Credit where it is due he resign without any controversy which must be appreciate
 
Sad day for Pakistan cricket. Hopefully we will have a good replacement.
 
Let see what Eshan Mani brings in as a chairman.

This is Eshan Mani profile according wiki

Ehsan Mani is an ex-ICC president. He was born in Rawalpindi in Pakistan on March 23, 1945. He spent his early life in Pakistan playing for the Rawalpindi Club and Government College Lahore XI from 1959 to 1965 as a right-hand batsman and a left-arm fast medium bowler before moving to the United Kingdom to complete his further studies. Mani is a Chartered Accountant by profession and has resided in the UK since the late-1960s.

From 1989 to 1996, Mani represented the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in the ICC. For the 1996 Cricket World Cup, he was on the advisory committee as the PCB representative. He was also on the same committee during the 1999 Cricket World Cup played in England. In 1996, he was elected by the ICC member nations to the position of Chairman of the ICC Finance and Marketing Committee. He held on to this post until it was dissolved in June 2002. After that he took over as the Vice-President of the ICC Executive Board. He has also served on a number of ICC Committees, such as the Chairman's Advisory Committee, set up to advise Lord Cowdrey and Sir Clyde Walcott during their stint as ICC President. Other committees he has been a part of are the Rules Review Committee and the Governance and Organisation Committee. In June 2003, he became the ICC President.

Mani is on the board of a number of UK based companies mostly banking and real-estate.
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Good decision by Sethi, jumped before he was pushed. Arguably more honour in that than being publicly sacked.
 
Eshan Mani is pretty much confirmed, he was there during oath taking.

Don't know whats so good about him
 
Does ICC not have any prohibitions on political interference, similar to FIFA?
 
Eid do din jaldi agyi (Eid has come two days early) :)))


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I really don't know much about Ehsan apart from him having served as an ICC president but, how can a guy aged 74 would help?

Or is he that good that even his age doesn't matter?
 
AMSS said:
Does ICC not have any prohibitions on political interference, similar to FIFA?
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Sethi was appointed by Nawaz Sharif and then tenure extended by Khaqan Abbasi, it says it right there in his resignation letter.
 
AMSS said:
Does ICC not have any prohibitions on political interference, similar to FIFA?
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I think if pcb chairman personally complain then icc might have intervene but then again if reports are true about BOG rejecting najam sethi vote then there is no hope for najam sethi and icc would have asked for re election and najam sethi would have fail to win that
 
I am not sure he would be have many questions to answer when the PSL behind the scenes are discovered..I hear a lot of black money was made white..
 
First, the idea that IK would bring Sharjeel back is laughable, unless he's innocent. Considering what's happening in the last few days, I don't think he is, but let's see

Also, this will be the last guy IK will handpick, since he wants an election system.
 
Sethi was a political appointee who left when his patrons left. I would like to see Ehsan Mani as Chairman but in the long term we need proper elections. We need someone to seriously look at the domestic game as its been a mess for decades.
 
The disrespect shown towards Najam Sethi is quite sad

1) Created PSL into a sucessful venture, look at other boards struggling to launch T20 leagues.
2) Did his best to bring cricket back to Pakistan
3) Gave free hand to Micky Authur to make decisions that are fitness standard, professionalism, young player given chance and no TFF monopoly.

Allegations against him are not proven. It was more of personal enmity
 
saeed5646 said:
Ehsan mani is good choice as long we don.t see javid maindad,moin khan any where near pcb we will be fine .
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Agreed Ehsan Mani is a good choice. I don't think Javed and Moin have got the qualifications and credentials for the top administrative post. Having said that don't know about Moin but Javed would go out of his way for his country (like he did in his playing career). I don't know what would be a good role for him if any at the PCB or in coaching?
 
AMSS said:
Does ICC not have any prohibitions on political interference, similar to FIFA?
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Could have been, if he was sacked. As far I know, ICC has a clause that prohibits political leadership to interfere in members' board operation, but not aware of details. Here NS has resigned on his own "in the interest of PAK cricket", not, "as you have asked for, as patron of PCB ..... ", or something like that - I don't think it's going to be a major issue. ICC might send an official correspondence regarding clarification on PCB operation (& who'll represent PAK in future, before next Chairman is appointed), which can easily be answered from COO's office (Not sure if Subhan Ahmed will be there or not ...).
 
Syed1 said:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out


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Shameful.

It was about respecting merit and appointing most able people.

Sethi was the best at his job. Did so much for cricket.
 
We must appreciate the good work done by Sethi with regards to the PSL. What's done is done though hopefully the future will be even better under the new administration.
 
AMSS said:
Does ICC not have any prohibitions on political interference, similar to FIFA?
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Syed1 said:
Sethi was appointed by Nawaz Sharif and then tenure extended by Khaqan Abbasi, it says it right there in his resignation letter.
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Not quite.

Article 2.4(D) was introduced by the ICC last year which provides all members must:

"manage its affairs autonomously and ensure that there is no government (or
other public or quasi-public body) interference in its governance, regulation
and/or administration of Cricket in its Cricket Playing Country (including in
operational matters, in the selection and management of teams, and in the
appointment of coaches or support personnel);"

The PCB's workaround is for the PM to nominate a candidate for Chairman, which is then voted on by the BOG.

So technically the PM does not appoint anyone.
 
shah_1 said:
The disrespect shown towards Najam Sethi is quite sad

1) Created PSL into a sucessful venture, look at other boards struggling to launch T20 leagues.
2) Did his best to bring cricket back to Pakistan
3) Gave free hand to Micky Authur to make decisions that are fitness standard, professionalism, young player given chance and no TFF monopoly.

Allegations against him are not proven. It was more of personal enmity
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I think he did the right thing by resigning. Being the PCB Chairman is no easy task, plus he worked tirelessly for 5 long years and must have burnt out now, its better for him to resign and return to his journalism field and also better for the PCB to be functioning smoothly rather than being in conflict with the PM office as we saw during Zaka Ashraf's time
 
shah_1 said:
The disrespect shown towards Najam Sethi is quite sad

1) Created PSL into a sucessful venture, look at other boards struggling to launch T20 leagues.
2) Did his best to bring cricket back to Pakistan
3) Gave free hand to Micky Authur to make decisions that are fitness standard, professionalism, young player given chance and no TFF monopoly.

Allegations against him are not proven. It was more of personal enmity
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He did a good job. Main problem people have with him is his appointment was politcal and not on merit. However, despite being political as well he proved maybe it was on merit as well.
 
cricket4all said:
He did a good job. Main problem people have with him is his appointment was politcal and not on merit. However, despite being political as well he proved maybe it was on merit as well.
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Ehsan Mani is also a political appointee technically speaking, its not like he is coming through via election
 
The timing is awfully wrong. We are supposed to go to the icc dispute resolution committee in a few months time. With a new chairman, I wonder how well we’ll be prepared for that hearing?
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
The timing is awfully wrong. We are supposed to go to the icc dispute resolution committee in a few months time. With a new chairman, I wonder how well we’ll be prepared for that hearing?
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The lawyers are working on that, not Sethi.
 
he shouldnt have resigned. Thats a cowardly move. Ehsan should be elected..not appointed..not happy about simply appointing someone..
 
For all those worrying about the PSL, it's worth remembering the infrastructure is already in place, with the young employees responsible for its day to day running still at the PCB.

Also, Mani helped establish the first T20 WC as ICC chairman so he knows a little about running tournaments...
 
the Great Khan said:
he shouldnt have resigned. Thats a cowardly move. Ehsan should be elected..not appointed..not happy about simply appointing someone..
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He will be elected by the BOG, Imran has simply nominated him.
 
At those claiming he did the right thing to resign before he was sacked, have to realise he's been accused of wire-tapping his associates so he could blackmail them later on.

He was a political stooge of Nawaz' so let's not get overly emotional about the man.
 
mak36 said:
The lawyers are working on that, not Sethi.
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Would still be a huge void. See it this way. The ICC frowns upon political interference in cricket boards. Even if you argue that NS was the political appointee, he had developed enough goodwill with ICC to tip the balance slightly in our favour. But that NS is being replaced by another political appointee, the old wounds would run deeper. Meanwhile, Ehsan Mani had offended the BCCI severely during his tenure as the ICC chairman. Now we all know how much influence BCCI has over ICC. So all in all, the optics are bad.
 
I personally find it shameful that people like Wasim Akram, Ramiz Raja, Inzamam, Mushtaq Ahmed and co all of whom got roles in the PSL or in the PCB due to Najam Sethi did not even bother to defend him to IK and in fact completely abandoned him in the end. Disgusting to see the lota and vulture culture in Pakistani society.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
Would still be a huge void. See it this way. The ICC frowns upon political interference in cricket boards. Even if you argue that NS was the political appointee, he had developed enough goodwill with ICC to tip the balance slightly in our favour. But that NS is being replaced by another political appointee, the old wounds would run deeper. Meanwhile, Ehsan Mani had offended the BCCI severely during his tenure as the ICC chairman. Now we all know how much influence BCCI has over ICC. So all in all, the optics are bad.
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Ehsan is not a political appointee (not in the traditional sense anyway).

He is a competent cricket administrator with a very good track record. As per the PCB constitution, he has been nominated to the BOG who will then choose whether to elect him or not.
 
What is Ehsan Mani's position regarding the PCB, PSL, BCCI?

Is he going to be another Zaka Ashraf or Nasim Ashraf who cosied up to the BCCI and gave up Pakistan's interests while pandering to the BCCI?
 
sad very sad to hear he should have continued till PSL 4 and 2019 WC
 
mak36 said:
Ehsan is not a political appointee (not in the traditional sense anyway).

He is a competent cricket administrator with a very good track record. As per the PCB constitution, he has been nominated to the BOG who will then choose whether to elect him or not.
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And there’s your moral loophole. He’s appointed by a politician, therefore he’s a political appointee.
 
Also what did Ehsan Mani do for Pakistan Cricket as ICC Chairman? Did the Darrel Hair scandal not happen under his watch?
 
Savak said:
Also what did Ehsan Mani do for Pakistan Cricket as ICC Chairman? Did the Darrel Hair scandal not happen under his watch?
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Non, Percy Sonn was elected ICC president (a largely ceremonial role btw) during the summer of 2006. Mani had left the ICC by the time of the events at the Oval.
 
mak36 said:
What moral loophole?
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You said, and I quote, ‘As per the PCB constitution, he has been nominated to the BOG who will then choose whether to elect him or not’. That’s the same BOG who’s been called ruber stamp because of its support for NS based on their wastage interests. The BOG knows the way the wind goes. They’ll support whoever’s in the higher echelons of power.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We will follow the set procedure which entails my nominating him on the PCB Board of Governors. He may then contest elections for the position of Chairman PCB. <a href="https://t.co/kYZOnnMUFg">https://t.co/kYZOnnMUFg</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1031566542587224067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mian said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We will follow the set procedure which entails my nominating him on the PCB Board of Governors. He may then contest elections for the position of Chairman PCB. <a href="https://t.co/kYZOnnMUFg">https://t.co/kYZOnnMUFg</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1031566542587224067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Which is actually what I wrote above.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
And there’s your moral loophole. He’s appointed by a politician, therefore he’s a political appointee.
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That's the system according to the PCB constitution. The patron in chief which is the prime minister nominates a candidate and then the board of governors elect him. He can nominate multiple candidates as well. The thing is that all PCB chairmen by this system are going to be the PM's pick.
 
BTW Sethi hasn't resigned as PSL Chairman yet, he is still the Chairman of the PSL
 
Fahdi said:
That's the system according to the PCB constitution. The patron in chief which is the prime minister nominates a candidate and then the board of governors elect him. He can nominate multiple candidates as well. The thing is that all PCB chairmen by this system are going to be the PM's pick.
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There should be direct elections in PCB, without any political influence. PM’s nominations are as direct a political interference as it gets. It wasn’t right when NS was appointed and it is still not right when Ehsan Mani is nominated.
 
It's a shame that politics today has so much divided Pakistanies that they see everything from the same politically tainted glasses.

Who doesn't know Sethi got this Chairmanship due to his personal relationship with Nawaz Sharif (or due to his alleged help to latter's party in 2013), but it does not change the fact that Sethi was the most ideal administrator of PCB witmessed in near past. And that too by the widest margin possible, as his predecessors were some of the most incompetent people of those times. Supporters of PTI should be magnanimous now and acknowledge his good performance.

Plus, his replacement is also a political appointee. If you have to criticize someone, criticize the system which allows one government appointee to become Chairman without any competition from any other BoG member. Ehsan Mani is now PM's appointee and so entire BoG would rubber stamp him to the Chairmanship. How is this different to the way Sethi got elected?

And FYI, Ehsan Mani used to be on Board of Governers of Shaukat Khanum and has headed committees over there too. Anyone still claiming Sethi nomination to be political and Mani nomination to be on merit is just being plain hypocrite.
 
LordEddardStark said:
It's a shame that politics today has so much divided Pakistanies that they see everything from the same politically tainted glasses.

Who doesn't know Sethi got this Chairmanship due to his personal relationship with Nawaz Sharif (or due to his alleged help to latter's party in 2013), but it does not change the fact that Sethi was the most ideal administrator of PCB witmessed in near past. And that too by the widest margin possible, as his predecessors were some of the most incompetent people of those times. Supporters of PTI should be magnanimous now and acknowledge his good performance.

Plus, his replacement is also a political appointee. If you have to criticize someone, criticize the system which allows one government appointee to become Chairman without any competition from any other BoG member. Ehsan Mani is now PM's appointee and so entire BoG would rubber stamp him to the Chairmanship. How is this different to the way Sethi got elected?

And FYI, Ehsan Mani used to be on Board of Governers of Shaukat Khanum and has headed committees over there too. Anyone still claiming Sethi nomination to be political and Mani nomination to be on merit is just being plain hypocrite.
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Very true.
 
LordEddardStark said:
It's a shame that politics today has so much divided Pakistanies that they see everything from the same politically tainted glasses.

Who doesn't know Sethi got this Chairmanship due to his personal relationship with Nawaz Sharif (or due to his alleged help to latter's party in 2013), but it does not change the fact that Sethi was the most ideal administrator of PCB witmessed in near past. And that too by the widest margin possible, as his predecessors were some of the most incompetent people of those times. Supporters of PTI should be magnanimous now and acknowledge his good performance.

Plus, his replacement is also a political appointee. If you have to criticize someone, criticize the system which allows one government appointee to become Chairman without any competition from any other BoG member. Ehsan Mani is now PM's appointee and so entire BoG would rubber stamp him to the Chairmanship. How is this different to the way Sethi got elected?

And FYI, Ehsan Mani used to be on Board of Governers of Shaukat Khanum and has headed committees over there too. Anyone still claiming Sethi nomination to be political and Mani nomination to be on merit is just being plain hypocrite.
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F. W. de Klerk was the last SA President from the apartheid era and credited with greatness which the world will be grateful for but he represented an evil regime. Same applies to Sethi.

He has done an honourable thing and also left on a high.
 
MenInG said:
F. W. de Klerk was the last SA President from the apartheid era and credited with greatness which the world will be grateful for but he represented an evil regime. Same applies to Sethi.

He has done an honourable thing and also left on a high.
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F. W. de Klerk represented a genocidal regime. So for people who have the good sense of differentiating between littering and money laundering should also have the good sense of differentiating between a corrupt regime and a genocidal regime. To be honest, that’s a horrible comparison.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
There should be direct elections in PCB, without any political influence. PM’s nominations are as direct a political interference as it gets. It wasn’t right when NS was appointed and it is still not right when Ehsan Mani is nominated.
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A lot of things "should" be but the fact is that until the constitution of the PCB changes this is how things "will" be.
 
Fahdi said:
A lot of things "should" be but the fact is that until the constitution of the PCB changes this is how things "will" be.
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And that, my friend, is a practical demonstration of creating a moral loophole to reconcile with the existence of a flawed system.
 
With all said and done, I wish Ehsan Mani best of luck. Hope he does better than Najam Sethi and prove his selection right.
 
Sad day for Pakistan cricket. The best ever chairman. Period. Now Imran Khan will do what he complained about, fill the PCB with his friends
 
Savak said:
What is Ehsan Mani's position regarding the PCB, PSL, BCCI?

Is he going to be another Zaka Ashraf or Nasim Ashraf who cosied up to the BCCI and gave up Pakistan's interests while pandering to the BCCI?
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He's not a fan of the Big 3 but BCCI in particular. He was one of the first people to garner support among people because of his opposition to the Big 3. And has said a number of times that BCCI have tried to low-ball PCB by cancelling series on neutral venues. But he's also smart enough to know that the cases PCB are perusing against BCCI are pointless and a waste of time.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
He's not a fan of the Big 3 but BCCI in particular. He was one of the first people to garner support among people because of his opposition to the Big 3. And has said a number of times that BCCI have tried to low-ball PCB by cancelling series on neutral venues. But he's also smart enough to know that the cases PCB are perusing against BCCI are pointless and a waste of time.
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So he is going to withdraw PCB's case against the BCCI then?
 
Sethi did a decent job, but as most of the PML people , his credibility and honesty had some questions. I'm glad the best person has been appointed now, Ehsan Mani.
 
moghul said:
Sethi did a decent job, but as most of the PML people , his credibility and honesty had some questions. I'm glad the best person has been appointed now, Ehsan Mani.
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He is not in PML-N. Even his wife didn’t support PML-N as an independent candidate. He was in fact tortured by the goons of Nawaz Sharif back in the 90s. Plus, if disagreeing from the policies of one political party is a crime, than God help us all.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
He is not in PML-N. Even his wife didn’t support PML-N as an independent candidate. He was in fact tortured by the goons of Nawaz Sharif back in the 90s. Plus, if disagreeing from the policies of one political party is a crime, than God help us all.
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Lol Nawaz Sharif had Sethi arrested in 1999 and had even instructed Musharraf to Court Martial him.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
Let that sink in.
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It is an inconvenient fact that does not suit the narrative that we are supposed to follow. Expect deflection or some sort of self-serving justification.

The tragedy is that if Sethi wasn’t affiliated with PML-N, he would have been lavishly praised for his work as PCB/PSL head.

If we look at what he has done from an objective and impartial point of view, we will have nothing but appreciation for his work. He has been the best chairman in a long time.
 
Can some 1 tell what he did for cricket on domestic level?
Poor pitches, quality of cricket balls used, having visiting teams play vs PAK A TEAM in UAE etc?
 
Savak said:
Lol Nawaz Sharif had Sethi arrested in 1999 and had even instructed Musharraf to Court Martial him.
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Imran has joined hands with people whom he hated more than Sethi. I appreciate the latter for not bowing down to save his life, and had he done that, he would have been labeled a coward and what not.

However, it was nothing that couldn’t have been solved on the table. It is disappointing to see Sethi not involved in the PSL from today onwards. Pakistan cricket needs him in some capacity.

A very competent and intelligent man who knows how to get things done.
 
pakistani pride said:
Can some 1 tell what he did for cricket on domestic level?
Poor pitches, quality of cricket balls used, having visiting teams play vs PAK A TEAM in UAE etc?
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There is a director of domestic cricket. It is his job to look after the pitches and the balls. Sethi’s main objective was to put PSL in motion and make progress towards bringing international cricket back to Pakistan in some capacity, and he fulfilled both objectives with flying colors.
 
Ehsan Mani is the best person available for the job as he has prior experience at different administrative positions in ICC and PCB.

Sethi did nothing to improve domestic cricket and was wrongly appointed in the first place.
 
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