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Najam Sethi resigns as PCB Chairman

Mamoon said:
Imran has joined hands with people whom he hated more than Sethi. I appreciate the latter for not bowing down to save his life, and had he done that, he would have been labeled a coward and what not.

However, it was nothing that couldn’t have been solved on the table. It is disappointing to see Sethi not involved in the PSL from today onwards. Pakistan cricket needs him in some capacity.

A very competent and intelligent man who knows how to get things done.
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Shaikh Rasheed is one of them, in case people didn’t know. #MasuumanaObservations.
 
Have to say Sethi did a remarkable job.

But maybe this is Naya Pakistan, where merit has finally it’s spot in the society.
 
good job overall, although he did have a few blunders (like the Azhar Ali captaincy)

right time for him to go
 
Mamoon said:
There is a director of domestic cricket. It is his job to look after the pitches and the balls. Sethi’s main objective was to put PSL in motion and make progress towards bringing international cricket back to Pakistan in some capacity, and he fulfilled both objectives with flying colors.
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NS wasn't PSL Commissioner, neither PCB's consultant to bring Int. cricket back to PAK - HE WAS Chairman PCB with utmost power & political lobby behind him; therefore you can't limit his objective to only 2 KPIs - one is launched at least 3 years delayed than it should have been and other one is more hot air than substance.

Also, when PSL was launched and ZIM first toured PAK in 8 years, SK was the Chairman, not NS. It was his political link that kept him involved in PSL, otherwise I am not sure what was his designation to command such an influential role in PSL. If it's commissioner PSL, then may be his duel appointment of PCB Chairman wasn't right - it's like NBA Commissioner heading US Basketball Federation as well.

As a PCB Chairman, he had more failure than success and I can list them one by one, which I think is not necessary now, guy has left. Recent limited success of PAK team also can be more attributed to Arthur, Ul Haq & Sarfraz - apart from Sarfraz, NS can't be credited for appointing others, unless one can say that SK was a dummy, NS ran the show behind - but if so, that again doesn't sound good for previous PCB Patron.

Since you mentioned, as DoC, Haroon Rashid was appointed during NS's time, therefore you can't bypass NS from Rashid's incompetence - even Jo Mou didn't blame Bailey because he brought the guy paying 35mn!!!! I think, SK had been a fantastic PCB-C, who brought a sanity in PCB's operation - NS was just the beneficiary of the good job. One example I always give it that, for 6 years PAK team went without any controversy, and lots, lots of credit for that should go to SK & Misbah, not NS.

Before SK, previous few Chairmen were incompetent & wrong headed, hence SK/NS's tenure looks so bright, but without that benchmark, hardly there is anything of flying colors.

NS was a decent guy - at least didn't make a bankrupt into a beggar, but his tenure was hardly colorful, and guy used his media to promote himself more than PAK cricket; and the lied too much for his position, which often got him exposed. His final bluff was the case against BCCI, wasting lots of money just to convince people that he is screwing BCCI.
 
coy0607 said:
good job overall, although he did have a few blunders (like the Azhar Ali captaincy)

right time for him to go
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Azhar Ali's decision was made on the recommendation of Waqar Younis, Misbah ul Haq and Shahryar Khan was the PCB Chairman at the time.
 
Savak said:
Azhar Ali's decision was made on the recommendation of Waqar Younis, Misbah ul Haq and Shahryar Khan was the PCB Chairman at the time.
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recommendations are just recommendations, every ex-pakistani cricketer has a recommendation - the PCB chairman is always the decision maker for captaincy

I know the Shahryar / Sethi circus was at its peak at the time, so I am not exactly sure who okay'd it.

but if we're not going to blame NS for such issues, then SK also deserves part of the credit for things like the PSL
 
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coy0607 said:
recommendations are just recommendations, every ex-pakistani cricketer has a recommendation - the PCB chairman is always the decision maker for captaincy

I know the Shahryar / Sethi circus was at its peak at the time, so I am not exactly sure who okay'd it.

but if we're not going to blame NS for such issues, then SK also deserves part of the credit for things like the PSL
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Lol SYK has on record admitted that he was pessimistic about the PSL and he gave Sethi full powers, authority and responsibility for the PSL project on the condition that in case things went wrong Sethi would resign so therefore credit has to be given to Sethi.
 
mmhs said:
ns wasn't psl commissioner, neither pcb's consultant to bring int. Cricket back to pak - he was chairman pcb with utmost power & political lobby behind him; therefore you can't limit his objective to only 2 kpis - one is launched at least 3 years delayed than it should have been and other one is more hot air than substance.

Also, when psl was launched and zim first toured pak in 8 years, sk was the chairman, not ns. It was his political link that kept him involved in psl, otherwise i am not sure what was his designation to command such an influential role in psl. If it's commissioner psl, then may be his duel appointment of pcb chairman wasn't right - it's like nba commissioner heading us basketball federation as well.

As a pcb chairman, he had more failure than success and i can list them one by one, which i think is not necessary now, guy has left. Recent limited success of pak team also can be more attributed to arthur, ul haq & sarfraz - apart from sarfraz, ns can't be credited for appointing others, unless one can say that sk was a dummy, ns ran the show behind - but if so, that again doesn't sound good for previous pcb patron.

Since you mentioned, as doc, haroon rashid was appointed during ns's time, therefore you can't bypass ns from rashid's incompetence - even jo mou didn't blame bailey because he brought the guy paying 35mn!!!! I think, sk had been a fantastic pcb-c, who brought a sanity in pcb's operation - ns was just the beneficiary of the good job. One example i always give it that, for 6 years pak team went without any controversy, and lots, lots of credit for that should go to sk & misbah, not ns.

Before sk, previous few chairmen were incompetent & wrong headed, hence sk/ns's tenure looks so bright, but without that benchmark, hardly there is anything of flying colors.

Ns was a decent guy - at least didn't make a bankrupt into a beggar, but his tenure was hardly colorful, and guy used his media to promote himself more than pak cricket; and the lied too much for his position, which often got him exposed. His final bluff was the case against bcci, wasting lots of money just to convince people that he is screwing bcci.
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potw
 
MMHS said:
NS wasn't PSL Commissioner, neither PCB's consultant to bring Int. cricket back to PAK - HE WAS Chairman PCB with utmost power & political lobby behind him; therefore you can't limit his objective to only 2 KPIs - one is launched at least 3 years delayed than it should have been and other one is more hot air than substance.

Also, when PSL was launched and ZIM first toured PAK in 8 years, SK was the Chairman, not NS. It was his political link that kept him involved in PSL, otherwise I am not sure what was his designation to command such an influential role in PSL. If it's commissioner PSL, then may be his duel appointment of PCB Chairman wasn't right - it's like NBA Commissioner heading US Basketball Federation as well.

As a PCB Chairman, he had more failure than success and I can list them one by one, which I think is not necessary now, guy has left. Recent limited success of PAK team also can be more attributed to Arthur, Ul Haq & Sarfraz - apart from Sarfraz, NS can't be credited for appointing others, unless one can say that SK was a dummy, NS ran the show behind - but if so, that again doesn't sound good for previous PCB Patron.

Since you mentioned, as DoC, Haroon Rashid was appointed during NS's time, therefore you can't bypass NS from Rashid's incompetence - even Jo Mou didn't blame Bailey because he brought the guy paying 35mn!!!! I think, SK had been a fantastic PCB-C, who brought a sanity in PCB's operation - NS was just the beneficiary of the good job. One example I always give it that, for 6 years PAK team went without any controversy, and lots, lots of credit for that should go to SK & Misbah, not NS.

Before SK, previous few Chairmen were incompetent & wrong headed, hence SK/NS's tenure looks so bright, but without that benchmark, hardly there is anything of flying colors.

NS was a decent guy - at least didn't make a bankrupt into a beggar, but his tenure was hardly colorful, and guy used his media to promote himself more than PAK cricket; and the lied too much for his position, which often got him exposed. His final bluff was the case against BCCI, wasting lots of money just to convince people that he is screwing BCCI.
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A) Zim wasn’t the only team who traveled Pakistan in the last 10 years, we had Windies, Sl and World xi touring Pakistan during Sethi’s tenure, not to mention PSL final in 2017 and PSL knockouts+final in 2018.
B) PSL is not an independent body and comes under the jurisdiction of PCB so him being Chairman PCB and PSL is no conflict of interest.
C) His administration persisted with using dukes balls in domestic cricket and that’s why we did relatively well on our English tours, we saw our team win CT, saw them briefly rise to number 1 test ranking and becoming a force to reckon in T-20 cricket.
D) The only negative of his administration was the introduction of draft system in domestic cricket (-PSL).
I rest my case.
 
If found guilty of corruption he should join Nawaz sharif in jail where he can massage his feet.
 
LordEddardStark said:
It's a shame that politics today has so much divided Pakistanies that they see everything from the same politically tainted glasses.

Who doesn't know Sethi got this Chairmanship due to his personal relationship with Nawaz Sharif (or due to his alleged help to latter's party in 2013), but it does not change the fact that Sethi was the most ideal administrator of PCB witmessed in near past. And that too by the widest margin possible, as his predecessors were some of the most incompetent people of those times. Supporters of PTI should be magnanimous now and acknowledge his good performance.

Plus, his replacement is also a political appointee. If you have to criticize someone, criticize the system which allows one government appointee to become Chairman without any competition from any other BoG member. Ehsan Mani is now PM's appointee and so entire BoG would rubber stamp him to the Chairmanship. How is this different to the way Sethi got elected?

And FYI, Ehsan Mani used to be on Board of Governers of Shaukat Khanum and has headed committees over there too. Anyone still claiming Sethi nomination to be political and Mani nomination to be on merit is just being plain hypocrite.
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Well put. Honestly, pretty disappointed by this.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
A) Zim wasn’t the only team who traveled Pakistan in the last 10 years, we had Windies, Sl and World xi touring Pakistan during Sethi’s tenure, not to mention PSL final in 2017 and PSL knockouts+final in 2018.
B) PSL is not an independent body and comes under the jurisdiction of PCB so him being Chairman PCB and PSL is no conflict of interest.
C) His administration persisted with using dukes balls in domestic cricket and that’s why we did relatively well on our English tours, we saw our team win CT, saw them briefly rise to number 1 test ranking and becoming a force to reckon in T-20 cricket.
D) The only negative of his administration was the introduction of draft system in domestic cricket (-PSL).
I rest my case.
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My post was in response to Mamoon actually - he limited Chairman PCB’s success only to PSL & PAK hosting international cricket.

There are teams travelling to PAK after ZIM, though I have my reservation regarding the quality of teams, but it was SK, who first cracked the curse, which was the toughest part of the task. Also, in contrary I can say, had NS behaved properly, a legitimate 1st team tour of PAK by BD team in 2018 wasn’t impossible.

I know, PSL is part of PCB - my point was to explain that a success in a fraction of the task doesn’t cover for the whole. If we see PSL as separate entity - then he shouldn’t have been in PCB as chairman.

If I can recall correctly, Dukes ball was introduced after 2016 series, which ended 2-2; this time 1-1; therefore not sure how it can be considered a credit. Also, probably 5 years back, you can find a post of mine that PCB should use Dukes ball for FC cricket and I calculated a tentative costing for that as well. I am sure, lots of people do know why it should be Dukes ball - you can give NS credit definitely that his predecessors didn’t introduce it. This one I have always accepted - wall eye is definitely better than blind. In ODI, they use machine stitched kookaburra, don’t think using Dukes for FC cricket had anything to do at CT win. PAK was No. 1 in Test ranking in OCT 2016,.....

Point D is a bit risky to discuss - it might go to 3rd page.


I have mentioned many times that NS can leave PCB with his head high, because he wasn’t the worst guy in charge. But, his appointment was fishy, so was his power play, and his media antics to make 1 + 1 = 11; he had to leave as a pay back, which is probably a natural cycle. If someone is doing injustice here, time will tax him also in future.
 
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Is Mr Mani a British Passport holder? If yes, then what's the implications of having a non citizen as your board president?
 
Expect Mani to destroy everything good that has been done. Expect ex cricketer appointments who will not be able deliver and we will sink back to the mess we started from.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Expect Mani to destroy everything good that has been done. Expect ex cricketer appointments who will not be able deliver and we will sink back to the mess we started from.
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If he withdraws the PCB case against the BCCI that they have an outside chance of winning out of a goodwill gesture towards peace with the BCCI, I will be infuriated.
 
Savak said:
If he withdraws the PCB case against the BCCI that they have an outside chance of winning out of a goodwill gesture towards peace with the BCCI, I will be infuriated.
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You can mark my words; no money is going to flow from India to Pakistan, case or no case.
 
Savak said:
:) Just like the Big 3 model was not going to be overturned.
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The Big-3 model was overturned by design, not by accident.

Let me put it another way:

Hell will freeze over before India lets the money flow over to Pakistan, rightly or wrongly.
 
Savak said:
BTW Sethi hasn't resigned as PSL Chairman yet, he is still the Chairman of the PSL
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Najam Sethi "I have no further role with the Pakistan Super League after my resignation as Chairman of the PCB. Let me clarify that and say that the PSL is simply a department of the PCB in the same way you have international and domestic cricket and the NCA" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1032521043884351489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Angrez Pakistani said:
Even if ICC rules against BCCI?
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It should be Imebcile Cricket Council and it means nothing to BCCI. Its BCCI that feeds ICC and now as the fresh constitution in BCCI is going to take place, it means COA will depart soon and old guard of BCCI will screw ICC and show its real place. Not even a single penny will be given to PCB by BCCI. It seems everyone is behind BCCI's money. They cant earn by themselves so using cheap way to get other's money. Make your cricket competitive and attractive and your players in demand else stop running behind BCCI's money..
 
One year to his resignation, how much has PCB progressed since then?
 
MenInG said:
One year to his resignation, how much has PCB progressed since then?
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More to the point, the overturning of the ludicrous Sharjeel ban on the anniversary sent a crystal clear message that the PCB no longer stands behind Sethi’s unjustified (literally, if you read the Tribunal Report) rants against players.
 
Junaids said:
More to the point, the overturning of the ludicrous Sharjeel ban on the anniversary sent a crystal clear message that the PCB no longer stands behind Sethi’s unjustified (literally, if you read the Tribunal Report) rants against players.
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ah no.

SHarjeels ban only got reduced because he admitted that he was involved in corruption.

now you may deny that whatever, but in Pakistan we have a way of things. Over here, such matters are to be recorded on Affidavit which is than notarized with oath.

If sharjeel dares to deny that affidevit can be produced.

This is what salman butt did, if you still ask him questions about the spot fixing, he will not directly say that he was involved. He will just play around it saying oh the so and so was wrong, shouldnt had happened this and that. He also doesnt directly deny it because he probably also submmited an affidevit that can anytime be bought in court..
 
As for PCB.

Waseem Khan himself has said he needed time to research and all and he has done that now.

One thing i like about Waseem Khan is that he can take criticism, he is not someone who will try to please the media and make those selections in PCB or team that media likes. He will make selections that will fulfill their goal.

Najem sethi and Zaka Ashraf liked appeasing the public.
 
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