Name one single thing which can improve the Pakistan ODI team

[srh]

People would have in mind to do lot of things to improve Pak ODI team. But what is the priority #1 in your mind? Name one single thing which you think can improve the Pak ODI team.

 

[shaz72]

People would have in mind to do lot of things to improve Pak ODI team. But what is the priority #1 in your mind? Name one single thing which you think can improve the Pak ODI team.

This mentally weak pakistan team can never be number one. They do well one or two well performance but consistently they can't performed. They don't have that capability or skill.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Solid openers - two players who can stay in for 20 overs

 

[Pete Rose]

Better opener than imam

 

[Shandarchowka]

Maybe add an extra batsman at the expense of one all-rounder? No disrespect but faheem has no business to play on these sluggish pitches.. Rather go with Harris

 

[Madplayer]

Match Awareness.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Waiting for the next match.

 

[adzzy786]

Batting

 

[Jin Chacha]

Time and more realistic expectations.

This is a team where 9 out of 11 players have played less than 50 odis and half have played less than 20. We have developed unrealistic expectations due to the Champion's trophy win.

 

[aukhan]

Brains

 

[Fineline]

Knives out for Imam already!

 

[ads101]

Maybe add an extra batsman at the expense of one all-rounder? No disrespect but faheem has no business to play on these sluggish pitches.. Rather go with Harris

This is what I would do.

Easiest way to strengthen a batting line up is playing more batsmen.

 

[BD-fan]

If there was a vote, majority vote count from this forum would be "SACK MALIK." The common scapegoat. Why there are problems in Pakistan? Blame Shoaib Malik. Why there is problem in Papua New Guinea, blame Shoaib Malik. Why there is problem in Antarctica? You guessed it right. Blame the one and only Shoaib Malik. (This is going on for the 12 years I am here)

 

[BlackShadow]

Talent.

 

[Buffet]

Shot selection

 

[DRsohail]

Remove imam.

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

Skills of players. They are just not good enough. Imam sarfraz asif and shoaib malik all are poor.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Selection consistency.

Give players time to establish themselves.

 

[Dingolfy]

Better domestic structure.

 

[srh]

The biggest issue with this team is its non-performing captain.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Sharjeel Khan

 

[Greenstorm]

Fakhar's partner.

 

[Hawkeye]

Get rid of accumulators.

Malik, Sarfraz.

Cover Babar Azam with proper strikers who can play and hit pace bowling.

Two quality 'build the innings' type batsmen are enough. Babar Azam and Imam/someone else.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Get rid of accumulators.

Malik, Sarfraz.

Cover Babar Azam with proper strikers who can play and hit pace bowling.

Two quality 'build the innings' type batsmen are enough. Babar Azam and Imam/someone else.

Not Imam. Not sure why Sahibzada Farhan has been sidelined for this strokeless wonder.

 

[JattMaula]

Play one more pure spinner in UAE.

 

[fitCricFan]

Select player's based on merit alone, menotr and groom them and back them up. I know its a tall order to ask from the PCB and our Sr. players

 

[El Generico]

Shot selection,most wickets today fell because of moronic shots.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

It was a horrified tactical blunder first for not including a proper spinner in the squad and secondly mis reading the pitch and going for 320+ score

 

[Muhammad Saad]

The inability to move the white ball is just a skill deficiency which again cost us.

 

[castortroy]

Batting line is is not built for UAE pitches. Recent record there is a joke.

India have a better fielding, bowling and batting unit then us

 

[Savak]

Dropping the over rated Amir and not giving him any more free rides in the team.

Better Selection of players given modern ODI requirements, too many players feast and minnow bash but get shown up against the big boys and not meeting the needs of the modern era

The PCB has got to find a way to arrange more consistent cricket for this team with the boys and has to develop the guts to play a second eleven against the minnows.

 

[Savak]

Batting line is is not built for UAE pitches. Recent record there is a joke.

India have a better fielding, bowling and batting unit then us

This cannot be an excuse, Indian's haven't played in UAE for almost 12 years and have shown up Pakistan in the batting department in these conditions as well.

 

[MMHS]

Chill down people, every thing is fine.

These are one odd days - PAK won the last 6 One Day Internationals by massive margin. On record I can say that, in my memory even in club cricket I can't recall such big wins at stress for 6 games.

6. by 201 runs
5. by 9 wickets (84 balls at hand)
4. by 9 wickets (241 balls at hand)
3. by 244 runs
2. by 131 runs
1. by 8 wickets (158 balls at hand)

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Chill down people, every thing is fine.

These are one odd days - PAK won the last 6 One Day Internationals by massive margin. On record I can say that, in my memory even in club cricket I can't recall such big wins at stress for 6 games.

6. by 201 runs
5. by 9 wickets (84 balls at hand)
4. by 9 wickets (241 balls at hand)
3. by 244 runs
2. by 131 runs
1. by 8 wickets (158 balls at hand)

I had to think for a bit there before remembering that it was against my school side.

 

[sam_ahm]

I think pakistan will bounce back... You guys get rid of Asif Ali and pkay Haris Sohail... No other change is needed.

 

[Balthazar]

Change their timid approach in batting powerplay.

 

[Mamoon]

Go back to playing against minnows and weakened teams. I miss the golden days of playing a thousand matches against West Indies, Sri Lanka, Scotland and Zimbabwe.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Go back to playing against minnows and weakened teams. I miss the golden days of playing a thousand matches against West Indies, Sri Lanka, Scotland and Zimbabwe.

Must be a great day today for you. You've waited for this day a little over 15 months, enjoy kero!

Coming to the OP, need to add another reliable bat in the middle. Can't believe we didn't take Zafar Gohar, needed another spinner in the squad.

 

[Mamoon]

Must be a great day today for you. You've waited for this day a little over 15 months, enjoy kero!

Coming to the OP, need to add another reliable bat in the middle. Can't believe we didn't take Zafar Gohar, needed another spinner in the squad.

Not 15 months. The New Zealand whitewash was enough for me to conclude that this so-called new and improved Pakistan is nothing but hot air.

 

[Hasan123]

Improve the domestic structure.

 

[superman]

Get Harris Sohail in the playing 11 asap

 

[Majid Khan]

Here's one simple idea that will work with Pakistani cricketers - implement a performance based pay model, with following rules:-

Minimum basic pay - let's say 500 rupees per hour (for the 'mazdoor' for turning out on the field)

For batsmen:-

Scoring 50 runs = 5,000 rupees extra
Scoring 100 runs = 10,000 rupees extra

For bowlers:-

Taking 3+ wickets = 5,000 rupees extra
Taking 5+ wickets = 10,000 rupees extra

And penalties as follows:-

Batsmen getting out for less than 20 runs = deduction of 25% pay

Bowlers not taking any wickets = deduction of 25% pay

Batsmen getting out in the same way twice in the same tour = deduction of 50% of pay

and 10% extra for performing well against Top 3 teams in ICC rankings in any format.
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Try this formula for 6 months and you will identify who the 'mazdoor' (labourers) are who just turn up and deliver nothing, they are the ones you will need to kick out.

Nothing against Hafeez and Amir - but this kind of performance based pay system would expose them seriously.

 

[pillionrider]

Must be a great day today for you. You've waited for this day a little over 15 months, enjoy kero!

Not many PPers realize [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is one of Pakistan cricket's biggest fans. There are a type of people who are critical only about things they care about.

 

[Dingolfy]

Improve the domestic structure.

This.India improved a lot after 2000s due to the change in our structure.

 

[Muddaser]

Good enough to win and smash you in the champions trophy final.

Talent not the issue.

Haris Sohail for Asif Ali.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

Not many PPers realize [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is one of Pakistan cricket's biggest fans. There are a type of people who are critical only about things they care about.

We realize it alright.

Goes missing everytime something positive happens in Pakistan cricket. He's just a class A troll.

 

[Hasan123]

This.India improved a lot after 2000s due to the change in our structure.

We have said it for years yet nothing happens.

 

[Abid Z]

Have an off spinner who can bat a bit. (Not hafeez who currently can’t bowl effectively nor Shohaib Malik who hardly bowls anyway. I mean a genuine off spinner who’s not a darter and can bat sensibly lower down the order.

 

[nextover666666]

Playing your role and having some patience especially when your playing a 50 over match

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Remove Sarfraz from the team.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Till Sharjeel is not cleared;

Fakhar
Babar
Haris

Should be our top 3. This will improve our team massively.

 

[babajee]

Till Sharjeel is not cleared;

Fakhar
Babar
Haris

Should be our top 3. This will improve our team massively.

Three guys who can actually play pace and handle the new ball against good bowlers

 

[Amjid Javed]

Getting rid of sarfaraz from the team.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Three guys who can actually play pace and handle the new ball against good bowlers

Exactly. Most of the time they will play till 30 overs with one big partnership which will set platform for the rest.

and sad reacts @ tanazzali (opposite of taraqqi) ;p

 

[Mamoon]

Getting rid of sarfaraz from the team.

The other WK batsmen are bigger duds. "Pakistan me talent bohat" doesn't seem to apply to WK batsmen. It has always been our biggest weakness. Ever since the role of WK batsmen changed in the late 90's, we have not produced a single world class player in this role.

 

[El Generico]

Till Sharjeel is not cleared;

Fakhar
Babar
Haris

Should be our top 3. This will improve our team massively.

That is the perfect top 3 from the available resources. If/when Sharjeel comes back, he can open while Haris can replace Malik at 4.

 

[todfod 11]

Dont do India India too much before the game... that puts extra pressure...it was just a warm up game. I really cant understand why they went in defensive mode. Pakistan need sharjeel asap

 

[Plumb]

I don’t see a single thing so here.....They should play better “cricket”

 

[Srtfan]

Sarfarz don't deserve in team as a player.drop amir and play one more spinner.both india & Pakistan look like weak team

 

[MMHS]

Here's one simple idea that will work with Pakistani cricketers - implement a performance based pay model, with following rules:-

Minimum basic pay - let's say 500 rupees per hour (for the 'mazdoor' for turning out on the field)

For batsmen:-

Scoring 50 runs = 5,000 rupees extra
Scoring 100 runs = 10,000 rupees extra

For bowlers:-

Taking 3+ wickets = 5,000 rupees extra
Taking 5+ wickets = 10,000 rupees extra

And penalties as follows:-

Batsmen getting out for less than 20 runs = deduction of 25% pay

Bowlers not taking any wickets = deduction of 25% pay

Batsmen getting out in the same way twice in the same tour = deduction of 50% of pay

and 10% extra for performing well against Top 3 teams in ICC rankings in any format.
-----------------

Try this formula for 6 months and you will identify who the 'mazdoor' (labourers) are who just turn up and deliver nothing, they are the ones you will need to kick out.

Nothing against Hafeez and Amir - but this kind of performance based pay system would expose them seriously.

Recipe of disaster - batsmen will play to reach milestone and bowlers will bribe Sarfraz (Captain) to get the chance to bowl at tail.


If you want to link payment with performance, the solution is as simple as it can be. Just keep the wage structure as it is, and make 50% variable pay' linked with team result.

That's if a payer is in Category X with say $3,500 base pay - like $1,750 for being part of the game regardless of team performance. Rest 50% put with a multiplier - win against any team below the rank (PAK's rank in ODI is 5, so 7 teams) - earn full 50%, win any team over the rank (top 4) earn rest 50% with a multiplier by 2. Similarly, lose a game against higher ranked team - earn 25%, lose a game against lower ranked team - lose whole amount.

In a team game, rewarding individual performance is not a good idea - particularly for a game like cricket where few specific positions give better chances to few players to earn more.

 

[BaankeJi]

They need to do as they are told.

 

[shokz1408]

We need more than fakhar zaman, need to find at least one or two more batsmen that can put in consistent performances at the top/middle order. With India it's not so heavily reliant on one man, they have dhawan, sharma and kohli. With pakistan as zaman's wicket fell, I felt it straight away, we were going to lose. Cannot rely so heavily on one batsmen, and if he fails the team crumbles.

If we have to work with what we got, then simply put most of the wickets we handed to India were nothing shots. The players need to put a price on their wicket and play the match situation. Charging down to spinners risking a stumping was not required, a run out was unnecessary, and some poor shots in the air could easily have been played down the ground risk-free for runs. Also, the dot balls were a result of them not looking for singles, and waiting for loose deliveries, they need to rotate the strike better.

I feel disheartened today from the lack of fight. Sure we came back against India in CT but I'm slightly worried this time, being played in Dubai, the pitches aren't going to offer much.. we should bat 2nd next time. If we bat first I'm scared something similar might happen, however if we bat 2nd we might be able to bowl better in the first innings, that however does run the risk of India scoring around 300, in which case we will probably lose. In other words, it's going to be tough either way, and I'm not sure how they're going to come back from this, I just hope they do.

 

[todfod 11]

Play Harris sohail instead of Fahim in Uae

 

[giri26]

Batting needs more variety. At the moment barring Fakhar, Pakistan batting is one dimensional. That is the one thing which can improve Pakistan.

 

[B_Positive]

Make plan to play Jadhav properly.

 

[FastBowlingAllrounder]

After watching yesterday's match, I think we just need a proper game plan.

It seems Fakhar has gotten the idea that he can block out the first few overs easily then get settled and make up for it later-which is fine-but the plan wasn't thought out. Both of them played too slow and forget about rotation of strike and to got out to lose shots (typing this reminded me of Shezzy a bit).

Malik and Babar played according to the situation in an excellent manner but got out in unfortunate ways, but other than them no one had any plans or match awareness. I don't have words to describe what Sarfaraz was thinking when he played that shot against Jadhav. Totally unlike his style of play and in such a situation...

What we need for the coming matches is proper game plans, at least in the batting department. Fakhar and Imam shouldn't have the mindset to completely block out the first 5-6 overs then glance at the scoreboard, realise runs are needed, and play those loose slogs. They should aim for 30-35 runs in the PP against an opposition who is good at bowling in the PP, then begin to expand later. Or against, teams with strong spinners but opening bowlers who aren't exactly the best, they should look to capitalise earlier.

Blocking the first few like they were throwdowns then smashing the rest to the fence and getting hundreds may have worked in the Zimbabwe tour but won't work here. The team needs to realise that and come up work solutions and plans accordingly.

 

[Stumper]

Chill guys,
you are giving young batsman chances to play at international level where as we are using recycled garbage. You are in fine hands just was an off day yesterday. We too have many flaws which i hope we will address before WC.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Not much. Zafar gohar in for Aamir and maybe Harris Sohail at 4. Ideally sharjeel to open with fakhar but that ain't gonna happen .

Hypothetically

Fakhar
Sharjeel
Babar
Haris
Malik/Asif
Sarfraz
Faheem
Shadab
Zafar
Usman
Hasan

should be your best lineup in these conditions . If Sarfraz continues to underperform and sharjeel ban ends before WC, drop Sarf and play both Asif and Malik and Aamir instead of Gohar in English conditions. Pacers can be rotated with Junaid and Shaheen getting a look in as well. This is probably the best team available in Pakistan.

 

[Harshu814]

Looking at the form they seem to be in ,u cant let malik bat no5 if harris is in. Try make him open with fakhar ,i wonder he will be better than any other open u currently have

 

[Red Devil]

Stronger middle-order.

 

[Rohit_Beardman]

Mentality - Players don't play according to match situation. You are not born Rohit Sharma and can score double tons, Fakhar's 200 was against a minnow and he'll score another against Bangladesh. But come on who can score double tons against Aussies

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

One more thing; for matches in Asia we need a spin bowling coach aswell who has a say in selecting the squad too.

Teams are going with 3 spinners and we have one. Azhar Mehmood is not a spin bowling coach.

They did the same mistake against SL too.

going with six fast bowlers on these pitches is madness.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I keep seeing Zafar Gohar’s name here, what has he actually done to deserve this hype? Hasn’t he been out-performed by Nawaz in the PSL consistently? I don’t understand what’s this fascination with an unknown name to be the messiah for Pakistan cricket.

Bilal Asif and Muhammad Asghar are the closest to break into the national team as finger spinners. This Zafar Gohar fascination is similar to the fascination with Hammad Azam, before that notion died a rightful death.

 

[sjahmed23]

As much as I hate to see it, gotta send Sarfraz packing. He has only regressed since taking captaincy and does not belong in the odi team if he cannot bat. Make Fakhar captain of odis and bring back if he can keep.

Also Azhar Ali is a much better choice for opener with Fakhar. He is clutch and does not fall prey to pressure.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

I keep seeing Zafar Gohar’s name here, what has he actually done to deserve this hype? Hasn’t he been out-performed by Nawaz in the PSL consistently? I don’t understand what’s this fascination with an unknown name to be the messiah for Pakistan cricket.

Bilal Asif and Muhammad Asghar are the closest to break into the national team as finger spinners. This Zafar Gohar fascination is similar to the fascination with Hammad Azam, before that notion died a rightful death.

Ideally we should have groomed one of these 3 or Irfan by now. Next series vs Aus and we dont know who the second spinner will be!! Phir sai 3 pacers na khila lain bewakoof.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Ideally we should have groomed one of these 3 or Irfan by now. Next series vs Aus and we dont know who the second spinner will be!! Phir sai 3 pacers na khila lain bewakoof.

or Raza hasan but dont know how he is doing this season. Was a quality spinner who was destined to play long for Pak before injuries and charas happened.

 

[daytrader]

A better batting order would have helped. We should've opened with Babar with Haris at 1 down. Nawaz should also be slotted in for one of the pacers. This way we will have a deeper batting line up plus two more spin options.

One thing that bothers me is that there is no thinking involved and game awareness in the dug out. What was the need to send in Asif Ali or even Sarfraz so early into the game. We have 2 all rounders that are not being utilized properly. They should be promoted as the situation requires. If we need quick runs, send in Faheem. If we need an accumulator send in Shadab. The batting order should not be set in stone. With addition of Nawaz we can have another player that can be promoted as required.

 

[aloo paratha]

One loss and it seems the whole team needs changing. We need a good opener to partner with Fakhar, and we needed to play Zafar Gohar instead of Faheem Ashraf on these pitches.

 

[Eye_Done]

Bring back Sharjeel

 

[Hitman]

Bring back Ijaz Butt as the PCB chairman.