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Narendra Modi gives BJP chief Amit Shah, who called Muslims ‘termites’, top cabinet job

The man who described Muslim refugees as “termites” during India’s general election campaign has been given the plum job of home affairs minister, signalling a tough stance on security and immigration from Narendra Modi’s new government.

Mr Modi, sworn in for a second term as prime minister in Delhi on Thursday evening, named his cabinet yesterday after trouncing the opposition and winning a clear majority last week. His Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) secured 303 of 542 seats in parliament.

The chief architect of that victory was Amit Shah, the BJP’s president. Seen as the prime minister’s right-hand man and tipped to succeed him, Mr Shah is an arch nationalist previously charged with murder, and his appointment to one of the top posts in government has sent tremors through India’s political establishment.

Adored by the Hindu right, Mr Shah, 54, is loathed by liberals and minority groups for defining the BJP’s election strategy since it swept to its first landslide in 2014. He has been accused of peddling hatred towards Muslims and low-caste groups to galvanise the Hindu voter base. The strategy has carried the BJP to back-to-back general election victories but polarised the nation.

It was his decision to nominate Pragya Singh Thakur, a Hindu nun who is on bail facing terrorism charges over a bombing that killed six Muslims in 2008, to stand for the BJP in the election. Ms Thakur, 49, won her seat by a substantial margin but the move was denounced by opponents as a fresh low in Indian politics.

Mr Shah personified his own strategy with comments that provoked uproar on the campaign trail. Addressing a rally in West Bengal state, a region with a high number of Muslim refugees, he vowed to step up a nationwide crackdown on “infiltrators”.

“The illegal immigrants are like termites. They are eating the grain that should go to the poor, they are taking our jobs,” he told the crowd.

To make sure his target was clear, he pointedly omitted Muslims from a list of those who would be spared deportation. “We will remove every single infiltrator from the country, except Buddhists, Hindus and Sikhs,” Mr Shah said.


As home affairs minister, Mr Shah will get the chance to make good on those threats. He is reported to have asked Mr Modi, 68, for the post, which gives him huge influence over national security. He is expected to intensify the government’s tough line against insurgents in Kashmir and will spearhead BJP efforts to strip the disputed territory of its semi-autonomous status, a move that many residents fear is an effort to alter the demographic balance of India’s only Muslim-majority state.

Mr Shah was charged with murder in 2010, accused of ordering the extrajudicial killing of a local crime boss. The charges were eventually dropped but Mr Shah was considered so toxic that he was exiled from his home state for two years.

Even BJP loyalists have suggested that Mr Shah’s contentious past would stop him from becoming prime minister. His entry into government suggests that he and Mr Modi disagree with this, however, and his star continues to rise.

Mr Shah is thought to covet the top job, though the BJP victory he engineered last week was so total that there is already talk that Mr Modi could run for a third term in 2024, governing India into his late seventies.

Mr Shah keeps the post of BJP president and will plan the party’s strategy in key state polls, including trying to take control of Delhi next year.

You can love him or loathe him, but at least Modi is proving true to India's electorate. They voted for him on these policies and he is following through.
 
This is bad news for stone pelters in Kashmir.....

Yes, one of his proposals I believe is to remove the semi autonomous status of Kashmir, I would imagine with the idea of moving non-Muslim settlers into the region. Could be an idea to offer hindu immigrants from abroad land or housing there similar to what Israel has done for 70 years.
 
Yes, one of his proposals I believe is to remove the semi autonomous status of Kashmir, I would imagine with the idea of moving non-Muslim settlers into the region. Could be an idea to offer hindu immigrants from abroad land or housing there similar to what Israel has done for 70 years.

Or they could be using the Chinese model aka flood their citizens in the provinces which had a whole bunch of muslims. Heck the Chinese are slowly doing it now in POK, they already have brought small pieces of land there all in the name of CPEC, which they are not allowed to do without the amendment of the Kashmir specific agreements... Interesting times ahead Cap....
 
As bad as Modi is, Amit Shah is 10 times worse. Shah is almost as powerful as the the PM, more than just a right hand man. He is also the national President of BJP, earlier he was Gujarat's Home Minister, number two behind Modi. Modi is a simpleton in many ways, but this man is a manipulative, crooked politician with Machiavellian tendencies. The real brains behind BJP, the master of hate and divisiveness. Modi owes a lot to him, if Shah falls Modi's days are numbered.

Some of his other achievements:

Extra-judicial killings for which he was sent to jail.
Alleged head of extortion racket.
Illegally spied on a young woman.
Intimidation of witnesses, Supreme Court banned him from entering his home state because of that.
Repeated defiance of SC orders, for instance recently related to the running of Gujarat Cricket Association which he and his son (Jay Shah) jointly control.

The scary part is he is only 54 years old and already one of the leading contenders as Modi's successor.
 
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Or they could be using the Chinese model aka flood their citizens in the provinces which had a whole bunch of muslims. Heck the Chinese are slowly doing it now in POK, they already have brought small pieces of land there all in the name of CPEC, which they are not allowed to do without the amendment of the Kashmir specific agreements... Interesting times ahead Cap....

Thats pretty ********, buddy. You cannot buy land in Kashmir as per Pakistan's constitution. Only Kashmiris can buy land in Kashmir. Kashmir is not even part of Pakistan's federation. Azad Kashmir has its own government.
 
Well that's why people voted for modi. We want to see action now. BJP has notdone much except talks in last 5 years.
Now it's time to take action as well. Illegal immigrants need to be thrown out ASAP.
People of India fully support modi & amit shah on this.
 
Someone can if change the thread from muslims to illegal immigrants muslims. That would be ok. But wont mind if it stays same. Because it doesn't matter to people of India much now.

Indians know what india stands for and what happens in ground reality rather than what these misleading threads says...
 
Thats pretty ********, buddy. You cannot buy land in Kashmir as per Pakistan's constitution. Only Kashmiris can buy land in Kashmir. Kashmir is not even part of Pakistan's federation. Azad Kashmir has its own government.

Yeah you go and tell that to the Chinese folks that have started construction of roads in POK...
 
Someone can if change the thread from muslims to illegal immigrants muslims. That would be ok. But wont mind if it stays same. Because it doesn't matter to people of India much now.

Indians know what india stands for and what happens in ground reality rather than what these misleading threads says...

The headline is the exact same as the one used in the UK Times in today's edition. If you read the bolded and underlined part I think that is where they are saying quite clearly that Shah is differentiating by religion, claiming that Hindu, Buddhist and Sikhs will be excepted. illegal or not.
 
The headline is the exact same as the one used in the UK Times in today's edition. If you read the bolded and underlined part I think that is where they are saying quite clearly that Shah is differentiating by religion, claiming that Hindu, Buddhist and Sikhs will be excepted. illegal or not.

We are ok with this. Logically in indian subcontinent 2 countries are made by the name of religion Pakistan & Bangladesh. So illegal muslims should consider to mover there.
There is no country made for hindus or sikhs, buddhists etc. So their first choice should be India
Although I dnt want any immigrants in India unless they contribute economically to my country. We are already way too populated.
 
Yes, one of his proposals I believe is to remove the semi autonomous status of Kashmir, I would imagine with the idea of moving non-Muslim settlers into the region. Could be an idea to offer hindu immigrants from abroad land or housing there similar to what Israel has done for 70 years.

This is already happening. For the last 4 years Massive 'Bahria' style housing developments have sprung up around IOK and have systematically been populated by 'migrating' Hindus and hence they will become the majority in a lot of the key IOK areas very soon.
A leaf out of the Israeli book.
 
Or they could be using the Chinese model aka flood their citizens in the provinces which had a whole bunch of muslims. Heck the Chinese are slowly doing it now in POK, they already have brought small pieces of land there all in the name of CPEC, which they are not allowed to do without the amendment of the Kashmir specific agreements... Interesting times ahead Cap....
What is it with you Injuns and your 'Chillies up the rear-end' obsession with The Pak/Chinese CPEC?
 
The headline is the exact same as the one used in the UK Times in today's edition. If you read the bolded and underlined part I think that is where they are saying quite clearly that Shah is differentiating by religion, claiming that Hindu, Buddhist and Sikhs will be excepted. illegal or not.

Muslims demanded a separate nation in 1947. They got it. Now why should they be allowed back into India? Is this a joke? They have no rights to be in India. Non muslims though had no say in the partition and hence they may be allowed a one time exception. But if you ask me, i am againist that too.

Regarding the UK times, its pretty evident how they have twisted what Shah said. From illegal muslims, they have generalised it into muslims.

Anyways, it hardly matters. Indians have given a resounding slap to these propoganda media outlets in India and abroad in the recent elections.
 
Muslims demanded a separate nation in 1947. They got it. Now why should they be allowed back into India? Is this a joke? They have no rights to be in India. Non muslims though had no say in the partition and hence they may be allowed a one time exception. But if you ask me, i am againist that too.

Regarding the UK times, its pretty evident how they have twisted what Shah said. From illegal muslims, they have generalised it into muslims.

Anyways, it hardly matters. Indians have given a resounding slap to these propoganda media outlets in India and abroad in the recent elections.

On the contrary, the promotion of the rabid Hindutva Yogi Adityanath has rubber stamped the anti-Muslim sentiment which drives the BJP party. Don't try to pretend that the most respected news site in England has some sort of agenda against India. Why would they?

This sort of victim mentality is laughable. There is no conspiracy to defame India, the paper is just picking up the very obvious religious bias - which you and other posters are also displaying if we are honest. Yogi could just have said all immigrants are termites, but the fact that he has made an exception for Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists makes it quite clear who he is referring to.

You can fool the public at home, but we British have a long history in India, we know very well the mentality of Modi and his acolytes.
 
eh, the indian muslims deserve what is coming to them. this is what they get for being sheep.
 
Muslims demanded a separate nation in 1947. They got it. Now why should they be allowed back into India? Is this a joke? They have no rights to be in India. Non muslims though had no say in the partition and hence they may be allowed a one time exception. But if you ask me, i am againist that too.

Regarding the UK times, its pretty evident how they have twisted what Shah said. From illegal muslims, they have generalised it into muslims.

Anyways, it hardly matters. Indians have given a resounding slap to these propoganda media outlets in India and abroad in the recent elections.

Sick mindset. This world is a scary place
 
Waiting for Mamoon to come in and blame this on Imran Khan and the PTI
 
Sick mindset. This world is a scary place
You have separate country by the name of religion and when other non muslim country citizen saying that illegal muslim immigrants should never be allowed in non muslim country rather than they should be going to the one which is made for them and you would call this sick.
So you want all world to be operated by your rules. Sorry it's 21 st century. Can't do any more invasions by the name of sword or by any other mean. Modi govt should immediately do things which they could not do in last 5 yrs.. One of that is to respectfully send all illegal I don' immigrants muslims to their places.
India is anyways not safe for muslims as per many people. So not sure what illegal muslims are seeking here.
Would you see illegal budhishts or hindus or sikhs immigrating to Pakistan? That would be very funny.
 
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Is there a restriction on third time pm in India? The way things are going, health permitting I suspect modi will be around for the next ten to fifteen years
 
Chinese building roads in Pakistan = Taking over Pakistan.

Indian logic . Delusional bunch.

That's not the point. Are the Chinese allowed to build roads per the Kashmir agreement on POK ?.. I am off the impression without the removal of Section 35 & 370 you cannot buy, sell or build in any part of Kashmir if you are not a Kashmiri. Since the Chinese are building roads in POK, I am sure they have some kind of ownership attached to it. I could be wrong though, feel free to educate me if I am....
 
What is it with you Injuns and your 'Chillies up the rear-end' obsession with The Pak/Chinese CPEC?

Obsession ? :)), Chinese have set a precedent for Indians to follow, which I am sure you are OK with since they are Pakistan's closest ally :angel:
 
You have separate country by the name of religion and when other non muslim country citizen saying that illegal muslim immigrants should never be allowed in non muslim country rather than they should be going to the one which is made for them and you would call this sick.
So you want all world to be operated by your rules. Sorry it's 21 st century. Can't do any more invasions by the name of sword or by any other mean. Modi govt should immediately do things which they could not do in last 5 yrs.. One of that is to respectfully send all illegal I don' immigrants muslims to their places.
India is anyways not safe for muslims as per many people. So not sure what illegal muslims are seeking here.
Would you see illegal budhishts or hindus or sikhs immigrating to Pakistan? That would be very funny.

Bro these are Bangladeshi immigrants, if you agree with your PM that they are termites, well not really our business to argue. BD pM Hasina is a close ally, maybe India should work out a swap program where you can swap termites for welcome Hindu immigrants.
 
It's not only just about this article but look at time pass section thread most of about India & indian Muslim ..

It is a reflection of the love between the two peoples in my opinion. Indians are also very prominent on Pakistani forums, whether this one or news sites. Should we ask why do Indians care so much about Pakistan, or say welcome friends and let us engage in pleasant time pass? :)
 
It is a reflection of the love between the two peoples in my opinion. Indians are also very prominent on Pakistani forums, whether this one or news sites. Should we ask why do Indians care so much about Pakistan, or say welcome friends and let us engage in pleasant time pass? :)

It's good but nowsday all discussion about hate each other .when a thread of both country about positive development came hardly seen much reply but when it's come to bashing each other it's become bigger & bigger.
 
Modi is welcome to destroy hos country. I em enjoying seeing him hire these nutjob's!
 
Have said it multiple times and will say it again.

India biggest threat is internal from the radicalized extremists nationalists Hindu politician and their supporters.

Their supporters display the mindset of ignorance, radicalism and extremism daily on this forum, few are the example are in this thread.
 
On the contrary, the promotion of the rabid Hindutva Yogi Adityanath has rubber stamped the anti-Muslim sentiment which drives the BJP party. Don't try to pretend that the most respected news site in England has some sort of agenda against India. Why would they?

This sort of victim mentality is laughable. There is no conspiracy to defame India, the paper is just picking up the very obvious religious bias - which you and other posters are also displaying if we are honest. Yogi could just have said all immigrants are termites, but the fact that he has made an exception for Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists makes it quite clear who he is referring to.

You can fool the public at home, but we British have a long history in India, we know very well the mentality of Modi and his acolytes.
It's not, it's the posh version of the Daily Mail these days. The Guardian and Independent would be much better for serious analysis, the Times is more polished and glossy, but the content is geared more towards entertainment nowadays.

Cause it suits your agenda Times is a respected site but Above is your quote about times in another thread ;)
 
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When a known terrorist is leading a country then such things don't surprise me. This Hindu fanatic party will lead the country to a big mess the way things are going.
 
This is bad news for stone pelters in Kashmir.....

Your almost a million army men can't control the Freedom Fighters of Kashmir for decades so not sure what this kheet ki moli Amit will do :)

India can never rule Kashmir peacefully the way Pakistan does. We don't torture and kill innocent civilians. Kashmir was never India's and never will be. Always will belong to Kashmirirs :)
 
No one is leaving. There are too man of them now. Get real!

When their right to work,buy property,vote, are taken away, when they will be restricted to their camps,they will leave. Also it will make India a lot less friendly fir the others who want to come.
 
When their right to work,buy property,vote, are taken away, when they will be restricted to their camps,they will leave. Also it will make India a lot less friendly fir the others who want to come.

They will continue living in camps if need be! There are probably millions of them who will just join the others who are living on the streets of India. What is the point in wanting the get rid of them then replacing them with others??:faheem
 
There is this one sketchy BJP politician called ”Dr” Subramanian Swamy who often calls for Pakistan being broken in 4 pieces on Twitter. He attacks Islam and hates muslims yet his son in law is a muslim. Kind of funny not gonna lie.
 
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Your almost a million army men can't control the Freedom Fighters of Kashmir for decades so not sure what this kheet ki moli Amit will do :)

India can never rule Kashmir peacefully the way Pakistan does. We don't torture and kill innocent civilians. Kashmir was never India's and never will be. Always will belong to Kashmirirs :)

Oh dont worry we will be fine, if Chinese can build roads and who knows probably already owning land on POK everything will be ok :)... If BJP government manages to remove Section 35 & 370, well, watch what happens after...
 
As bad as Modi is, Amit Shah is 10 times worse. Shah is almost as powerful as the the PM, more than just a right hand man. He is also the national President of BJP, earlier he was Gujarat's Home Minister, number two behind Modi. Modi is a simpleton in many ways, but this man is a manipulative, crooked politician with Machiavellian tendencies. The real brains behind BJP, the master of hate and divisiveness. Modi owes a lot to him, if Shah falls Modi's days are numbered.

Some of his other achievements:

Extra-judicial killings for which he was sent to jail.
Alleged head of extortion racket.
Illegally spied on a young woman.
Intimidation of witnesses, Supreme Court banned him from entering his home state because of that.
Repeated defiance of SC orders, for instance recently related to the running of Gujarat Cricket Association which he and his son (Jay Shah) jointly control.

The scary part is he is only 54 years old and already one of the leading contenders as Modi's successor.
Described that Tadipar goon well.
 
Oh dont worry we will be fine, if Chinese can build roads and who knows probably already owning land on POK everything will be ok :)... If BJP government manages to remove Section 35 & 370, well, watch what happens after...

Theres nothing to watch. Your inhumane, brutal and terrorism watch on Kashmiris has been running for decades and will continue to do so, hence Freedom Fighters will keep fighting back. If anything, BJP might sacrifice couple more trucks with loaded Indian armymen to get the sympathy vote before election.
 
Anyone who thinks hardline Hindus will ever be okay with Muslims is living in an effing fantasy. Being a Muslim In india means being the second class citizen. Kinda how it’s like to be desi in the UAE or any Arab country
 
Anyone who thinks hardline Hindus will ever be okay with Muslims is living in an effing fantasy. Being a Muslim In india means being the second class citizen. Kinda how it’s like to be desi in the UAE or any Arab country

Exactly, Hindutva people idolize Veer Savarkar who admired the Nazis for their ”pure race theory” and the Zionists for kicking the arabs out. There’s no hope.
 
This is how democracy works if people of India want to experiment with these extremists let them be I only hope that they will learn the lesson and start choosing more right-minded leaders in due time. I am sad for India as the country with its secular roots is going down every single day apart from that I am shocked to see so many fellow Pakistanis being worried about it as in Pakistan we have something different going on.
 
This is how democracy works if people of India want to experiment with these extremists let them be I only hope that they will learn the lesson and start choosing more right-minded leaders in due time. I am sad for India as the country with its secular roots is going down every single day apart from that I am shocked to see so many fellow Pakistanis being worried about it as in Pakistan we have something different going on.

Can you tell me how stopping and deporting illegal immigrants is againist secularism?
 
Can you tell me how stopping and deporting illegal immigrants is againist secularism?

If you read the OP it was in the bold part where Yogi has specified that Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist immigrants are welcome, which clearly contrasts to his hostile attitude to Muslim immigrants. You can pretend this is solely about legality but the language and speeches of your minister tell the real story.
 
If you read the OP it was in the bold part where Yogi has specified that Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist immigrants are welcome, which clearly contrasts to his hostile attitude to Muslim immigrants. You can pretend this is solely about legality but the language and speeches of your minister tell the real story.

Firstly Yogi didnot make the speech Shah did.

Secondly Muslim got a country in 1947. So why they should be allowed back into India? What was the point of partition when the people who demanded it and went there are no coming back illegally. They got their country,now stay there.

I find no reason why India should not be hostile to illegal immigrants.
 
Firstly Yogi didnot make the speech Shah did.

Secondly Muslim got a country in 1947. So why they should be allowed back into India? What was the point of partition when the people who demanded it and went there are no coming back illegally. They got their country,now stay there.

I find no reason why India should not be hostile to illegal immigrants.

By all means India can be hostile to illegal immigrants, in fact they can be hostile to legal ones as well as far as I am concerned. It is their country, that is their choice. But you asked as to the secular nature of India and I was answering that question. Modi is promoting ministers who favour immigrants of some religions and refers to others as termites.
 
Seems like the only guy who practices what he preaches
The face of the BJP policy, definitely not a career politician or someone easily corruptible
BJP message has somewhat been diluted by their economic model both at home and abroad
Something which obviously defined the last years of nawaz sharif

The next Theresa May, watch this space
 
By all means India can be hostile to illegal immigrants, in fact they can be hostile to legal ones as well as far as I am concerned. It is their country, that is their choice. But you asked as to the secular nature of India and I was answering that question. Modi is promoting ministers who favour immigrants of some religions and refers to others as termites.



Secularism is for citizens. Not for illegal immigrants.Under Indian law they deserve jail.

Secondly as i said the reasons non muslims may be allowed to immigrate from India are based on the partition agreement. Do you no support the partition agreement?
 
Secularism is for citizens. Not for illegal immigrants.Under Indian law they deserve jail.

Secondly as i said the reasons non muslims may be allowed to immigrate from India are based on the partition agreement. Do you no support the partition agreement?

I am not a fan of partition agreement as it happens, which is why it always makes me laugh when you refer to me as a British Pakistani. But that is beside the point, we are talking about the secular nature of your govt ministers, and obviously when they are differentiating between how they view immigrants based on their religion, there isn't anything secular about it. You can twist it any way you want, but no one is buying it. Would respect you more if you were upfront about it like Yogi.
 
Secularism is for citizens. Not for illegal immigrants.Under Indian law they deserve jail.

Secondly as i said the reasons non muslims may be allowed to immigrate from India are based on the partition agreement. Do you no support the partition agreement?

So partition justifies violence against Hindus as well in Pakistan right? You know, why didn’t they move to India in 1947?
 
BJP can never cut ties with Sangh Parivar. It is what it is.

There is no point in whining about BJP. They are pro-Hindu, anti-Muslim and ultra nationalists.

What we can hope is, Modi’s tenure finishes smoothly without any loss of Muslim life’s for silly reasons like beef eating.
 
So partition justifies violence against Hindus as well in Pakistan right? You know, why didn’t they move to India in 1947?

Illegal immigrants are not Indians. Indians of any religion are not the issue here. Pakistani hindus who are citizens of pakistan should have the rights.

Its another thing that in a islamic republic they can be kidnapped, forcibly converted, falsely accused of blashphemy and punished. In case they somehow get justice from the court, they may have to leave the country anyway.
 
To call human beings termites:facepalm:
Exactly the kind of ganwar language that one what would expect for BJP and its supporters.

Illegal immigration is the bogey man- BJP and its supporters and too stupid to amount to anything ,therefore they have to look for scapegoats.
 
Shah is to Modi what LK Advani was to Vajpayee. One can only hope that just like Advani Shah eventually reinvents himself and leaves the nasty communal politics behind.
 
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