National T20 Cup - (Low) quality broadcast and commentary

[Ryw]

Azhar Ali: "faheem ashraf k chakkay k sath hi 10 mazeed darakht lgain k PCB ki janib sy"

Tariq Saeed: " Wese Southern Punjab ki bowling ny sab sy ziada darakht lgwain hain is tournament ma,kafi dafa 200 chase krwaya ha"

 

[Saj]

Marina is out of her depth, as many female commentators are these days.

There is this desperation to have female commentators around the world - most are terrible.

 

[Markhor]

Much, much improved. The only gripe though is this PCB YouTube stream is on and off.

Sometimes it's not available until well into the match or significantly delayed.

 

[MenInG]

Marina is out of her depth, as many female commentators are these days.

There is this desperation to have female commentators around the world - most are terrible.

Why not have a woman's tournament and let them hone their skills on that?

 

[TrentDevil]

Sana Mir is quite good, calm & composed and doesn't get excited over small things keeping it natural all the time.

Better in Urdu compared to English but good overall.

P.s. Fumbles a bit sometimes but recovers well

 

[Last Monetarist]

Agree broadly with the points on female commentators above, the only consistently good one is Mel Jones. The rest are all hit and miss.

Sana Mir does have promise though given that she is competing with the likes of Wasim, Ramiz, and Bazid.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Marina is out of her depth, as many female commentators are these days.

There is this desperation to have female commentators around the world - most are terrible.

They have to start somewhere, give em some time. Most domestic countries dont have this many eyeballs glued to their domestic tournaments.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Tried to watch the live stream on YouTube. Something is wrong with the sound feed English and Hindi commentary is simultaneous and 3 commentators are speaking at the same time. Was put off and switched away. Wanted to see Haider and rohail bat

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Sound is okay now but in between heard sound of windows desktop and mouse cursor flashing

 

[silentkiller187]

i think the female commentators try too hard and end up over compensating or trying to fit in, the ones in the IPL are unwatchable at the moment, trying to be too technical especially when KP, DOULL and SLATER are not even taking the action seriously making jokes to pass time nd earn their quick buck .

They just need to relax , i dont see why they cant hone their skills in the womens game and make the move once the time is right, seems like all the females are being fast tracked at the moment.

 

[ataullah]

I think the broadcast improved immensely and will continue to do so. Give credit to Wasim Khan who is delivering no doubt

 

[Markhor]

Look you're not going to address 30 years of neglect overnight. However the coverage improved significantly as the tournament went on.

The camerawork isn't flawless but it was better towards the end than at the start. The delayed stream was annoying but better than nothing. We don't have Richie Benaud or Tony Cozier level commentators but it's good we're trying to expand the number of homegrown broadcasters including some female representation.

Hopefully PTV will launch HD transmission of their broadcasts soon and enter the 21st Century.

For the first time in history, PCB properly marketed and generated buzz for a domestic tournament. That has to be commended.

 

[Abdullah719]

The camerawork and production was a lot better as the tournament went on. Pity that the graphics just didn't work with PTV's low quality output.

 

[prakash]

Team not playing won the toss. Not to mention 7 Sohail Khans.

 

[prakash]

 

[prakash]

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Including all players, I think Sikander Bakht (not the cricketer) has been the best find of this tournament.

Deep resonating voice with a very calm and composed approach. Good in-depth knowledge of the game and very timely commentary to go along with the play on the field. And his English language is quite clean and decent too.
He seems experienced and did a great professional job.


IMO, he can surely be a good option to take English commentary for all future Pak games abroad. He is much better than Ramiz Raja.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Including all players, I think Sikander Bakht (not the cricketer) has been the best find of this tournament.

Deep resonating voice with a very calm and composed approach. Good in-depth knowledge of the game and very timely commentary to go along with the play on the field. And his English language is quite clean and decent too.
He seems experienced and did a great professional job.


IMO, he can surely be a good option to take English commentary for all future Pak games abroad. He is much better than Ramiz Raja.

100% agree, I was pleasantly surprised at how good he was.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Including all players, I think Sikander Bakht (not the cricketer) has been the best find of this tournament.

Deep resonating voice with a very calm and composed approach. Good in-depth knowledge of the game and very timely commentary to go along with the play on the field. And his English language is quite clean and decent too.
He seems experienced and did a great professional job.


IMO, he can surely be a good option to take English commentary for all future Pak games abroad. He is much better than Ramiz Raja.

Completely agree on Bakht. Alhamdulillah he has a good voice and A decent knowledge but it was other factors that stood out as well. He raised interesting questions during commentary and seemed overall like a likeable 'fun' presence. When you look forward to hearing a guy speak, you know he's quality.

I thought Sana Mir cane across as quite knowledgeable. She'd raise some very interesting tactical points regularly every time she was on, regarding field placing etc. And because she's not a typical 'establishment' person, She had zero qualms in calling out bad passages of play. My only criticism of Sana would be her voice inflection. If she could sound a little bit more lively in commentary, it would go a long way. Currently, despite making relevant points, She sounded a bit jaded. I'm not talking about the PSL cocaine commentary levels of energy, just enough that catches the viewers attention.

Zaynab, whilst mainly a presenter, was a steady hand at commentary. I think she was consistent as a play-by-play commentator, and as a commentator, if u can't add to the proceedings, you shouldn't detract from it. As such, She did a consistent professional job.

Bazid Khan is a lot more looser in commentary these days. I did enjoy his banter with Sikander in the commentary box.
However, he still needs to keep adding astute observations to his commentary to stop going the Rameez Raja way.

Tariq Saeed, who I've heard for the first time, was quality. He has an immense Urdu vocabulary, and his commentary was both informative and analytical. He also, as regards his on-air 'discussion' with Azhar Ali goes, willing to ask important questions.

Rameez Raja and Wasim Akram can be given the same grade. Not only was the broadcast poorer by their inclusion, it made it unwatchable. And please understand, this isn't a case of familiarity breeds contempt. Whenever they were on screen (especially Rameez in the final), there was such negativity towards the play. Now clearly the standard of play was lacking at tines, especially the fielding, but if you keep moaning about it regularly, why should I, the viewer, care about the product? A measured tone would have been more professional, but it was almost as if the product was beneath them.

Marina Iqbal got a lot of hate on here, and clearly she's a work in progress. But I believe that she is one worth sticking with, as she's someone who will improve with more reps.

Shehzar Mohammad, again, was not universally loved. I felt he was enthusiastic, and didn't say anything gaff-worthy. However, it's just that he didn't have the voice for commentary, which made his contribution seem worse than it was.

Which brings us to Azhar Ali. For me, before the Tariq Saeed argument, he was, after Sikander Bakht, the mist enjoyable commentator in the box. A quirky personality, quality one liners, a consistent them of taking the Mick out of planting ten trees etc, was just really good. His interactions with Sikander, Marina and ironically Tariq Saeed before the argument were actually quite fun. But it's essential that commentators remain neutral whilst in the box. You're there to describe the action and add to it, NOT give a strong opinion on a VERY polarizing topic. It's a shame because it was clear from this stint that Azhar would make a fine future commentator and that Tariq Saeed argument has left a really bad impression. Let's see if he can recover from it.

 

[CleverSir]

Overall, the product improved over the tournament. I hope they broadcast the QeA matches this season as well. I find myself enjoying watching Pakistan domestic cricket for the first time. I also find I am vested in how my provincial team is doing. Great direction moving forward for the PCB.

 

[Savak]

People will always complain ruthlessly rather than acknowledge improvement. One sports reporter WK is still miffed about the PCB decision to abolish departmental cricket as if he has some personal thekka involved and when told about the positives the PCB has achieved i.e. bringing international teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, PSL and now potentially England, South Africa, Australia, he goes like that the present PCB administration has not achieved such a huge teer and that they are just reeping of the benefits of the work done by Najam Sethi and the fact that the present security situation and environment in Pakistan is much better in comparison to 2009 to 2015 and had this PCB administration had to bring international cricket back to Pakistan during that time period, even they would have struggled.

I can understand why the PCB gets miffed with reporters like this and stay clear of them

 

[Saj]

People will always complain ruthlessly rather than acknowledge improvement. One sports reporter WK is still miffed about the PCB decision to abolish departmental cricket as if he has some personal thekka involved and when told about the positives the PCB has achieved i.e. bringing international teams like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, PSL and now potentially England, South Africa, Australia, he goes like that the present PCB administration has not achieved such a huge teer and that they are just reeping of the benefits of the work done by Najam Sethi and the fact that the present security situation and environment in Pakistan is much better in comparison to 2009 to 2015 and had this PCB administration had to bring international cricket back to Pakistan during that time period, even they would have struggled.

I can understand why the PCB gets miffed with reporters like this and stay clear of them

The criticism has to be constructive and that's what Wasim Khan appreciates. He will want open and honest criticism not just whining. But there again I feel some are a bit too sensitive about any sort of criticism, almost as if people aren't allowed to criticise or make suggestions to improve Pakistan cricket.

It's like the National T20 Cup feedback - I will send Wasim Khan suggestions from PP and let him take a look. I did this with Najam Sethi too. They like that and do look at our suggestions.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Completely agree on Bakht. Alhamdulillah he has a good voice and A decent knowledge but it was other factors that stood out as well. He raised interesting questions during commentary and seemed overall like a likeable 'fun' presence. When you look forward to hearing a guy speak, you know he's quality.

I thought Sana Mir cane across as quite knowledgeable. She'd raise some very interesting tactical points regularly every time she was on, regarding field placing etc. And because she's not a typical 'establishment' person, She had zero qualms in calling out bad passages of play. My only criticism of Sana would be her voice inflection. If she could sound a little bit more lively in commentary, it would go a long way. Currently, despite making relevant points, She sounded a bit jaded. I'm not talking about the PSL cocaine commentary levels of energy, just enough that catches the viewers attention.

Zaynab, whilst mainly a presenter, was a steady hand at commentary. I think she was consistent as a play-by-play commentator, and as a commentator, if u can't add to the proceedings, you shouldn't detract from it. As such, She did a consistent professional job.

Bazid Khan is a lot more looser in commentary these days. I did enjoy his banter with Sikander in the commentary box.
However, he still needs to keep adding astute observations to his commentary to stop going the Rameez Raja way.

Tariq Saeed, who I've heard for the first time, was quality. He has an immense Urdu vocabulary, and his commentary was both informative and analytical. He also, as regards his on-air 'discussion' with Azhar Ali goes, willing to ask important questions.

Rameez Raja and Wasim Akram can be given the same grade. Not only was the broadcast poorer by their inclusion, it made it unwatchable. And please understand, this isn't a case of familiarity breeds contempt. Whenever they were on screen (especially Rameez in the final), there was such negativity towards the play. Now clearly the standard of play was lacking at tines, especially the fielding, but if you keep moaning about it regularly, why should I, the viewer, care about the product? A measured tone would have been more professional, but it was almost as if the product was beneath them.

Marina Iqbal got a lot of hate on here, and clearly she's a work in progress. But I believe that she is one worth sticking with, as she's someone who will improve with more reps.

Shehzar Mohammad, again, was not universally loved. I felt he was enthusiastic, and didn't say anything gaff-worthy. However, it's just that he didn't have the voice for commentary, which made his contribution seem worse than it was.

Which brings us to Azhar Ali. For me, before the Tariq Saeed argument, he was, after Sikander Bakht, the mist enjoyable commentator in the box. A quirky personality, quality one liners, a consistent them of taking the Mick out of planting ten trees etc, was just really good. His interactions with Sikander, Marina and ironically Tariq Saeed before the argument were actually quite fun. But it's essential that commentators remain neutral whilst in the box. You're there to describe the action and add to it, NOT give a strong opinion on a VERY polarizing topic. It's a shame because it was clear from this stint that Azhar would make a fine future commentator and that Tariq Saeed argument has left a really bad impression. Let's see if he can recover from it.

I could not believe it was anyone else but Hassan Jaleel when I first heard Tariq Saeed Commentating.
100% ditto copy voice of Hassan Jaleel. Very soothing and easy on the ears. It was great to have him on the commentary team.

And then I was especially impressed by Sana Mir.
Not only her technical expertise were evident but at many occasions, she had a good knowledge of strong and weak points of many players. She was well versed and her verbal delivery was excellent.

I even nominated her for the Chief Selector's position.
She seemed very intelligent and looks to have a cool head on her shoulders.

 

[Savak]

The criticism has to be constructive and that's what Wasim Khan appreciates. He will want open and honest criticism not just whining. But there again I feel some are a bit too sensitive about any sort of criticism, almost as if people aren't allowed to criticise or make suggestions to improve Pakistan cricket.

It's like the National T20 Cup feedback - I will send Wasim Khan suggestions from PP and let him take a look. I did this with Najam Sethi too. They like that and do look at our suggestions.

That's fair enough but some of a lot of these sports reporters have taken the PCB decision to abolish dept cricket to huge heart and they act as if the PCBs other achievements, improvements are worth squat in comparison to this one decision

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

The criticism has to be constructive and that's what Wasim Khan appreciates. He will want open and honest criticism not just whining. But there again I feel some are a bit too sensitive about any sort of criticism, almost as if people aren't allowed to criticise or make suggestions to improve Pakistan cricket.

It's like the National T20 Cup feedback - I will send Wasim Khan suggestions from PP and let him take a look. I did this with Najam Sethi too. They like that and do look at our suggestions.

[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] It's really heartening to hear that there is an avenue for fans to reach the PCB, via this forum. Thus I had some feedback, which I hope is relevant:

I'd stress that the PCB continue with the commentators that stood out, I.e. Bakht, Zaynab, Sana Mir, Tariq Saeed and Azhar Ali (despite his late faux-pas) and continue using them in the PSL as well. Wasim and Rameez are fine, but it's intriguing to see new blood in the overall presentation as well. Perhaps for the one day Pakistan Cup, they can try a new presenter to share the burden with Zaynab?

Lastly, I'd like to commend the PCB media team in making the YouTube channel interesting. It was really interesting to hear the various head coaches discuss strategy and man management, and the piece on Shan interviewing Abdullah Shafique or Azam playing the guitar humanized the players. Very good.

Perhaps for the QEA trophy, they could do a 'star of the round' feature where a lesser known name would be highlighted, along with highlights of his performance from that round of play, plus an intro to who he is, what his role in the team is, his idols, his motivations and his specific goals. At the end of the day, to drive advertiser revenue, you want to make your domestic cricket high profile, and highlighting domestic stars enhances the domestic product.

Just my two cents!

 

[Thunderbolt14]

[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] It's really heartening to hear that there is an avenue for fans to reach the PCB, via this forum. Thus I had some feedback, which I hope is relevant:

I'd stress that the PCB continue with the commentators that stood out, I.e. Bakht, Zaynab, Sana Mir, Tariq Saeed and Azhar Ali (despite his late faux-pas) and continue using them in the PSL as well. Wasim and Rameez are fine, but it's intriguing to see new blood in the overall presentation as well. Perhaps for the one day Pakistan Cup, they can try a new presenter to share the burden with Zaynab?

Lastly, I'd like to commend the PCB media team in making the YouTube channel interesting. It was really interesting to hear the various head coaches discuss strategy and man management, and the piece on Shan interviewing Abdullah Shafique or Azam playing the guitar humanized the players. Very good.

Perhaps for the QEA trophy, they could do a 'star of the round' feature where a lesser known name would be highlighted, along with highlights of his performance from that round of play, plus an intro to who he is, what his role in the team is, his idols, his motivations and his specific goals. At the end of the day, to drive advertiser revenue, you want to make your domestic cricket high profile, and highlighting domestic stars enhances the domestic product.

Just my two cents!

+1

I loved Azam and Hasnain’s jam session! Shan interviewing Abdullah is also just so nice to watch. Hats off to the PCB media team and I hope they continue doing stuff like this.

 

[Last Monetarist]

The stream for the Quaid-e-Azam trophy was playing up all day for me. No complaints about the video quality as such, but the stream was intermittently offline throughout.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

The stream for the Quaid-e-Azam trophy was playing up all day for me. No complaints about the video quality as such, but the stream was intermittently offline throughout.

It was like that for mostly everyone who logged on to watch it intermittently offline throughout the days play.

 

[Savak]

Yasir Hameed commentated today. The PCB is creating numerous employment opportunities for ex players now

 

[shamaan]

Yasir Hameed commentated today. The PCB is creating numerous employment opportunities for ex players now

Good maybe now the older players will retire earlier as thiers a pathway for development