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Strike Rate said:
Anybody remember Fazl-e-Akbar from Peshawar? He was an amazing talent and used to eat domestic batsmen alive but don't why he didn't clicked at international level maybe we should have given him a couple of more matches than just 2 ODIs and 5 Tests.

He got 600 wickets in his 13 years FC career at an average of 21 and stopped playing domestic cricket at the age of 28/29 i think that's because he thought he is no more going to have any chance of getting selected again in national team? or maybe he was seriously injured? Never seen him in media all these years
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Mamoon said:
I faced him once in the nets back in early 2000's when I used to play club cricket. He is one of the most popular names in Peshawar cricket, but never delivered at the international level sadly.

I have heard he's a tablighi now. He stopped playing domestic cricket when he was still in his prime because he had lost hope of playing international cricket.
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Yup. Fazl-e-Akbar bhai nowadays. Masha'Allah. :moyo

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Strike Rate said:
Who is the current coach of Pesh? I remember Wasti used to coach them a couple of years ago. The best thing about Peshawar is they come up with a game plan and everyone try to contribute instead of hijacking big guns from other regions.
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Some guy called Abdur Rehman. Shoaib malik praised him a few days ago on an interview with Dr Nauman Niaz.
 
Was expecting Peshawar to chase this but not so easily. Sialkot's bowling looks pretty weak whereas Peshawar seems to be a very strong unit. Should be a good final as long as Karachi does not put on their usual choking display.
 
The cameraman just showed the coach of Peshawar "that beard guy in the dugout "


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Mamoon said:
I faced him once in the nets back in early 2000's when I used to play club cricket. He is one of the most popular names in Peshawar cricket, but never delivered at the international level sadly.

I have heard he's a tablighi now. He stopped playing domestic cricket when he was still in his prime because he had lost hope of playing international cricket.
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Yes i heard many Peshawar players like Gul and Imran Khan talking about Fazl-e-Akbar i guess he is seen as a legend in the region. It's really sad he stopped playing even before turning to 30 but i guess after 600 wickets and 13 years of domestic cricket there was nothing left for him to continue if there was no hope for him getting selected again.

Kabir Khan (former afghan coach and Peshawar player) was another sad case he was born in a wrong era where we had too much fast bowling talent sitting on bench so it was hard to give many chances to new players.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Was expecting Peshawar to chase this but not so easily. Sialkot's bowling looks pretty weak whereas Peshawar seems to be a very strong unit. Should be a good final as long as Karachi does not put on their usual choking display.
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No, they have some good talented young bowlers.
 
Malik and his team bottling, as expected. :))) :)))

But anyway, they faced a quality side so can't really blame them. They're used to of bullying weak teams.
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]
I and [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION] bro told you that Peshawar will roast these Sialkot bowlers
 
Well played peshawar. Deserved winners. Congrats [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION] and all others who were supporting Peshawar.
 
Yes we did it! humble pie for the sialkoti fan brigade here please dcome and take a slice

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Madplayer said:
Well played peshawar. Deserved winners. Congrats [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION] and all others who were supporting Peshawar.
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Itne araam se kahaan jaane denge apna humble pie slice lete jao bhai :D
 
Madplayer said:
Well played peshawar. Deserved winners. Congrats [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION] and all others who were supporting Peshawar.
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Thank you.
 
Madplayer said:
Well played peshawar. Deserved winners. Congrats [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION] and all others who were supporting Peshawar.
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Thanks a lot bro. I hope you will support Peshawar team in Final :)
 
Very well done Team Peshawar . Determined champs .

Well done peshawari boys . Congrats [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=136378]Naim[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Very well done Team Peshawar . Determined champs .

Well done peshawari boys . Congrats [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=136378]Naim[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
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[MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] aswell and all the Peshawar team supporters .
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Very well done Team Peshawar . Determined champs .

Well done peshawari boys . Congrats [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=136378]Naim[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
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Thank you. Final should be a cracker, the Blues should start as favorites, but Peshawar will give it all.
 
Congratulations to Peshawar for reaching yet another Final in one year :14:

Hope these guys beat Karachi [MENTION=139202]11ShadyBrothers[/MENTION] :yk
 
Looks like some foreigners attended the match today it's good to see foreigners in Pakistani stadium watching a domestic match. (credit goes to Mazhar Arshad for this pic)

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^ These guys were from Australian embassy. Mohammad Wasim just confirmed on his twitter.
 
Strike Rate said:
Looks like some foreigners attended the match today it's good to see foreigners in Pakistani stadium watching a domestic match. (credit goes to Mazhar Arshad for this pic)

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The seating arrangement is like the one you'd find at a wedding. Looks unprofessional and not sporty at all.
 
ChachaCricket said:
We're still a paindu country.
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That wasn't good at all but tbh can't blame PCB 6 years of no international cricket so you can't expect PCB to invest a lot at grounds specially in grounds like Rawalpindi otherwise they did some work on Wadafi stadium before ZIm tour.
 
Strike Rate said:
That wasn't good at all but tbh can't blame PCB 6 years of no international cricket so you can't expect PCB to invest a lot at grounds specially in grounds like Rawalpindi otherwise they did some work on Wadafi stadium before ZIm tour.
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Chairs without any sheets would've looked better.
 
Rifatullah momand deserve a go at t20. He is mentally stronger plus others are still. Young so they can wait
 
Random qs and prolly been talked before but why doesnt Umar Gul play for them anymore.

Also guys like YK and Hameed. I know theyve been not playing for Peshawar for a while. YK prolly got into some fight with the Peshawar cricket authorities but what abt other 2 :))
 
Strike Rate said:
Dr Nuaman Niaz giving it back to Geo Super in post match analysis :))
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he is getting annoying. whats the issue b.w geo super and them anyway.

he was saying sth abt them during match commentary yesterday too
 
Slog said:
he is getting annoying. whats the issue b.w geo super and them anyway.

he was saying sth abt them during match commentary yesterday too
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Geo Super was daily criticizing PTV Sport for the coverage quality, commentary and other stuff of this tournament by inviting people to sit on their channel and bash PTV Sports daily in their 10 pm to 12 am program and it got to a point where it was hard for Nauman Niaz to control.

Geo Super crossed all the limits TBH but i think that's because there is nothing left for Geo Super to show on their channel so they are getting frustrated they got no more money to beat PTV Sports and Ten Sports when it comes to getting TV rights for any Pakistan home/away series and than PTV Sports also started getting rights for domestic cricket and Ramadan T0 tourneys from last 2 years so Geo Super is only going down every day by showing highlights of old matches from past. They can't even beat PTV and Ten Sports when it comes to getting the rights of The Ashes and other major team series not involving pakistan, CLT20, Tennis Grand Slams, Football leagues, Olympics and other major sports events.

Future looks dark for Geo Super and i guess the only thing left for them is IPL because PTV as a govt channel will never go for the TV rights of IPL.
 
Strike Rate said:
Geo Super was daily criticizing PTV Sport for the coverage quality, commentary and other stuff of this tournament by inviting people to sit on their channel and bash PTV Sports daily in their 10 pm to 12 am program and it got to a point where it was hard for Nauman Niaz to control.

Geo Super crossed all the limits TBH but i think that's because there is nothing left for Geo Super to show on their channel so they are getting frustrated they got no more money to beat PTV Sports and Ten Sports when it comes to getting TV rights for any Pakistan home/away series and than PTV Sports also started getting rights for domestic cricket and Ramadan T0 tourneys from last 2 years so Geo Super is only going down every day by showing highlights of old matches from past. They can't even beat PTV and Ten Sports when it comes to getting the rights of The Ashes and other major team series not involving pakistan, CLT20, Tennis Grand Slams, Football leagues, Olympics and other major sports events.

Future looks dark for Geo Super and i guess the only thing left for them is IPL because PTV as a govt channel will never go for the TV rights of IPL.
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Very well summed up situation . Totally factual .
[MENTION=138428]Adnan Siddiqui[/MENTION] this is actually the issue they have . I agree Ptv's commentary is not of international standard but Geo Super also has had pathetic commentary . At PTV atleast you can hear saner voices of wasim bari , hassan cheema , Iqbal qasim , rehan ul haq . And sometimes good experts opinion from qadir and saqlain. They need to hire one expert from geo super who comes as analyst and writes in an English newspaper forgetting his name . He is a very good English commentator and ptv should get him . Once he ripped apart mr.bechaini in post match show too :-)
 
Strike Rate said:
Anybody remember Fazl-e-Akbar from Peshawar? He was an amazing talent and used to eat domestic batsmen alive but don't why he didn't clicked at international level maybe we should have given him a couple of more matches than just 2 ODIs and 5 Tests.

He got 600 wickets in his 13 years FC career at an average of 21 and stopped playing domestic cricket at the age of 28/29 i think that's because he thought he is no more going to have any chance of getting selected again in national team? or maybe he was seriously injured? Never seen him in media all these years
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He was a great bowler . I will place him in top 3 along with amir and Asif in last 17 years .

He used to bowl outswingers like steyn at 90+mph that is why he has got great average and strike rate . And keep it in mind that when he played domestic cricket in those days pitches weren't as conducive for seamers as like last 5,6 years . Otherwise he would have got ab average like Sadaf hussain and strike rate of 32 .

I would never call him international failure . He was given very less oppurtunities and when he got his chance he got it very late by than he had lost pace .

He was very very similar to waqar younis as a bowler . But he lost pace early like waqar . Don't know whether he too suffered injury or what ? He had a peak of 5 years . Where he was fast and very devastating bowler with weapon of late swing but at that time he was not selected as we had waqar , wasim , mohammad akram , shabbir Ahmed , shoaib akhtar , razzaq , azhar mahmood . So he was unlucky not to get a chance in his peak when no domestic batsman could last longer infront of him . I won't like to say but he was such a good bowler that a group of 3 bowlers were so insecure and so powerful at the time thay they did not let him get into the team even if they got unfit . The selectors were mere puppets and players were very powerful .

If you select waqar younis in 1997 he won't be even 40 % of the waqar he was from 1990 to 1995 . Same with Fazal e akbar he was selected when his great days were behind him . And still given very few oppurtunities .

I give you an example . Asif was selected for Australian tour made his debut and was dropped . Then against visiting England team 2 years later at Bagh e Jinnah there was a practice game and somebody else had to play but got injured at last moment and somebody had to play they only had Asif around and he played took 9 wickets in that game came in limelight again and was selected never looked back . So players need a break-inn an oppurtunity when in their peak . Had Asif not played that Bagh e Jinnah game he may still be struggling in domestic cricket like sadaf etc .

Fazl e Akbar was very unlucky .
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
He was a great bowler . I will place him in top 3 along with amir and Asif in last 17 years .

He used to bowl outswingers like steyn at 90+mph that is why he has got great average and strike rate . And keep it in mind that when he played domestic cricket in those days pitches weren't as conducive for seamers as like last 5,6 years . Otherwise he would have got ab average like Sadaf hussain and strike rate of 32 .

I would never call him international failure . He was given very less oppurtunities and when he got his chance he got it very late by than he had lost pace .

He was very very similar to waqar younis as a bowler . But he lost pace early like waqar . Don't know whether he too suffered injury or what ? He had a peak of 5 years . Where he was fast and very devastating bowler with weapon of late swing but at that time he was not selected as we had waqar , wasim , mohammad akram , shabbir Ahmed , shoaib akhtar , razzaq , azhar mahmood . So he was unlucky not to get a chance in his peak when no domestic batsman could last longer infront of him . I won't like to say but he was such a good bowler that a group of 3 bowlers were so insecure and so powerful at the time thay they did not let him get into the team even if they got unfit . The selectors were mere puppets and players were very powerful .

If you select waqar younis in 1997 he won't be even 40 % of the waqar he was from 1990 to 1995 . Same with Fazal e akbar he was selected when his great days were behind him . And still given very few oppurtunities .

I give you an example . Asif was selected for Australian tour made his debut and was dropped . Then against visiting England team 2 years later at Bagh e Jinnah there was a practice game and somebody else had to play but got injured at last moment and somebody had to play they only had Asif around and he played took 9 wickets in that game came in limelight again and was selected never looked back . So players need a break-inn an oppurtunity when in their peak . Had Asif not played that Bagh e Jinnah game he may still be struggling in domestic cricket like sadaf etc .

Fazl e Akbar was very unlucky .
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Another sad story from our domestic cricket and i did heard this insecure story of our great bowlers before too from someone who worked with PCB that they used their power to keep Fazl-e-Akbar away from national team.

Yea Asif was lucky that he clicked in second chance otherwise in our team you don't get a chance easily no matter how great you perform but you need those links inside PCB.

I also heard stories of Kabir Khan performing better than Wasim most of the times in domestic matches where both left arm played together.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
He was a great bowler . I will place him in top 3 along with amir and Asif in last 17 years .

He used to bowl outswingers like steyn at 90+mph that is why he has got great average and strike rate . And keep it in mind that when he played domestic cricket in those days pitches weren't as conducive for seamers as like last 5,6 years . Otherwise he would have got ab average like Sadaf hussain and strike rate of 32 .

I would never call him international failure . He was given very less oppurtunities and when he got his chance he got it very late by than he had lost pace .

He was very very similar to waqar younis as a bowler . But he lost pace early like waqar . Don't know whether he too suffered injury or what ? He had a peak of 5 years . Where he was fast and very devastating bowler with weapon of late swing but at that time he was not selected as we had waqar , wasim , mohammad akram , shabbir Ahmed , shoaib akhtar , razzaq , azhar mahmood . So he was unlucky not to get a chance in his peak when no domestic batsman could last longer infront of him . I won't like to say but he was such a good bowler that a group of 3 bowlers were so insecure and so powerful at the time thay they did not let him get into the team even if they got unfit . The selectors were mere puppets and players were very powerful .

If you select waqar younis in 1997 he won't be even 40 % of the waqar he was from 1990 to 1995 . Same with Fazal e akbar he was selected when his great days were behind him . And still given very few oppurtunities .

I give you an example . Asif was selected for Australian tour made his debut and was dropped . Then against visiting England team 2 years later at Bagh e Jinnah there was a practice game and somebody else had to play but got injured at last moment and somebody had to play they only had Asif around and he played took 9 wickets in that game came in limelight again and was selected never looked back . So players need a break-inn an oppurtunity when in their peak . Had Asif not played that Bagh e Jinnah game he may still be struggling in domestic cricket like sadaf etc .

Fazl e Akbar was very unlucky .
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Read this [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]
 
Strike Rate said:
Another sad story from our domestic cricket and i did heard this insecure story of our great bowlers before too from someone who worked with PCB that they used their power to keep Fazl-e-Akbar away from national team.

Yea Asif was lucky that he clicked in second chance otherwise in our team you don't get a chance easily no matter how great you perform but you need those links inside PCB.

I also heard stories of Kabir Khan performing better than Wasim most of the times in domestic matches where both left arm played together.
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Read this [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]
 
Strike Rate said:
Another sad story from our domestic cricket and i did heard this insecure story of our great bowlers before too from someone who worked with PCB that they used their power to keep Fazl-e-Akbar away from national team.

Yea Asif was lucky that he clicked in second chance otherwise in our team you don't get a chance easily no matter how great you perform but you need those links inside PCB.

I also heard stories of Kabir Khan performing better than Wasim most of the times in domestic matches where both left arm played together.
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Yes you are right about kabir khan . He had late inswing to right handers like wasim . I remember he went to Singapore in an Odi series and was very successful . Was a wicket taking bowler for us in that series , in wasim's absense probably it was amir Sohail's comeback series .

As a bowler I would rate him abit lower than wasim though . Yes born in the wrong era otherwise with his physique and fitness would have played 100 + tests .

By the way a very good coach and selector he has been in the last few years .
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Read this [MENTION=1080]miandadrules[/MENTION]
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TalentSpotterPk said:
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That is conjecture.

Any players of repute than can say he was at the very least nippy?

I saw him at this mythical peak and it was't 90 mph.

Once again, please do some research. Asif was identified by Bob Woolmer as the most improved and best seamer in Pakistan. I think he said it in an interview with pp.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
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