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Naveed Akram, the surviving suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at Bondi Beach in Sydney, charged with 15 counts of murder [Update@ Post 965]

I am not sure how a person can hold the belief that the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians and collective punishment, needs to be punished through collective punishment of Jewish people in a 3rd country.

What the hell does this achieve apart from more misery and bloodshed?

Palestine will only be free via armed resistance and re conquest of their land . These incidents make no difference now . After their mass slaughter for over 2 years , this is a global war against Zionism until they no longer exist as a sick ideology . But this war in terms of violence can only take place in the occupied areas of the holy land . The talking means nothing now
I've internally wrestled with this definition of what constitutes a legitimate target in the conflict for some time. Obviously not for me to tell Palestinians how to resist, it's just my theory:

- Any Israeli settler residing beyond the pre-1967 borders (minus women and children under military age) is a legitimate target, i.e. the territories intended for a future Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. Any Israeli of military age living there is partaking in a genocidal enterprise.

- All Israeli military personnel/installations in the region.

- Israeli institutions that profit and/or contribute to the occupation.

- All pro-occupation Israeli lawmakers.

Civilians in Israel proper shouldn't be targeted because it's a) immoral and b) those territories aren't designated for a Palestinian state anyway. And random attacks on Jews worldwide is repulsive. Like the fall of Nazism, it'll take an international, multiethnic, multireligious coalition to defeat this evil. These attacks do nothing to build these alliances.

I don't know what you think.
 

King 'appalled and saddened' by Bondi attack on Jewish community​


King Charles has said he is "appalled and saddened by the most dreadful antisemitic terrorist attack on Jewish people" at a Hanukkah celebration in Australia.

At least 11 people were killed in the shooting at Bondi Beach on Sunday and a further 29 taken to hospital, police said.

The King said his and Queen Camilla's "hearts go out to everyone who has been affected so dreadfully". He praised the "spirit of community and love that shines so brightly in Australia", adding that light of the heart of the Hanukkah festival "will always triumph over the darkness of such evil".

Sir Keir Starmer described the attack as "sickening" and said efforts were ongoing to increase policing of events in the UK.

In a statement on X, the UK prime minister said: "The United Kingdom will always stand with Australia and the Jewish community." He added that the government was working with Community Security Trust (CST), a Jewish security organisation, on the policing of Hanukkah events in the UK.

The Metropolitan Police said it was increasing its "police presence, carrying out additional community patrols and engaging with the Jewish community to understand what more we can do".

"It is an awful reality that Jewish communities across the world continue to face a higher level of threat," the force said in a statement.

"At a time when London's Jewish communities are coming together to begin the celebration of Hanukkah, we know this attack will be the cause of not just terrible upset but also significant heightened concern about safety."

In October, two people were killed in an attack at a synagogue in Manchester on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish religious calendar.

On Sunday, the UK's Jewish Leadership Council (JLC) called on the police and government to protect events celebrating Hanukkah which begins this evening and lasts for eight days.

Hanukkah, also known as Chanukah, is a festival of light usually observed in December.

"We are devastated and angered that in Sydney, Jews appear to have been targeted once again for being Jewish," the JLC said in a statement.

"We know that such hatred also exists in this country, as we are still reeling from the attack on a synagogue in Manchester on Yom Kippur.

"As we prepare to celebrate Chanukah over the next eight nights, we call on government and law enforcement to work with our community to protect Jewish life in the UK and ensure that events this week can go ahead safely. We must not let hatred extinguish the festival of light."

The mayor of London Sadiq Khan said the Met would increase its visibility in Jewish communities ahead of Hanukkah events, while Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood said the government was working with CST on the policing of events across the UK.

Police Scotland said it was carrying out additional patrols around synagogues and other Jewish venues and was "actively communicating with faith leaders".

Green Party leader Zack Polanski said he was on his way to a Hanukkah event which "should be a celebration but instead our community is once again mourning".

"I will be thinking of everyone in Australia and those around the world in the Jewish Community who know this fear and loss. We stand with you."

The Board of Deputies of British Jews said it had offered its support to its Australian partners and was in touch with the government to discuss the UK response.

"The scourges of terrorism and antisemitism are shared, international challenges and need concerted and determined action to defeat them," it added.

Labour peer Lord Levy called for world leaders to "reflect - perhaps even have a conference call, a symposium, as to what is going on in the world".

"Why is there this degree of antisemitism that is happening, whether it's in Manchester, whether it's in Australia... and mosques are being attacked as well," he told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend. "Why is this violence going on?"

Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper has advised any British people caught up in the shooting to contact the Sydney consulate for support.

Former England cricket captain Michael Vaughan posted on X that he had sheltered in a restaurant at Bondi Beach with others during the attack.

Vaughan, who is in Australia working as a media pundit for the Ashes, described the experience as "scary" and thanked the emergency services, saying his thoughts were with all those affected.

Source: BBC
 

'It was pandemonium': Jewish community targeted in Australia's deadliest shooting in decades​


The first day of Hanukkah was a sweltering one in Sydney - a perfect afternoon to spend at Australia's most iconic beach.

More than 1,000 people were enjoying a festival marking the occasion at a grassy stretch in Bondi: kids careened around in facepaint, crowds snaked between food trucks, and many enjoyed live entertainment as they soaked up the last rays of sunshine.

Then, just before 7pm local time, shots rang out.

From a small footbridge - just metres from a children's playground - gunmen fired upon the fenced-in crowds. A car full of improvised bombs was parked nearby, though they never went off.

One attendee, who identified himself only as Barry, described watching people around him get shot as hundreds of beach-goers began screaming and running through the park to get away from the attack.

"It was pandemonium and chaos," he told the BBC.

One video showed a man - dubbed a "genuine hero" by state officials - leaping out from behind a parked car to wrestle a gun from one of the attackers and push him away.

"It was simply an unbelievable scene… in today's day and age, that families and kids on Bondi could be completely mowed down for being Jewish," Barry said.

At least 11 people have died and more than two dozen are injured, including a child. One gunman was also killed by police, another is in hospital in a critical condition, and police say they're investigating whether a third person helped stage the attack.

This is an unfamiliar, and devastating, shock for Australia - the deadliest shooting in this country since the Port Arthur massacre in 1996.

That attack, which killed 35 people, was a turning point, famously prompting the government to introduce some of the world's strictest gun control measures.

We've only had a handful of mass shootings since then, most of them horrific acts of domestic violence - not public attacks like today.

Swiftly declared a terrorist attack by police, it comes amid a rise in antisemitic attacks in Australia since the 7 October Hamas attack on Israel and Israel's subsequent offensive on Gaza.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese called it an "act of evil antisemitism" and a "vile act of violence and hate".

But he's been accused by some - including Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - of failing to address the upward trend of antisemitism here.

"The Australian government, which received countless warning signs, must come to its senses!" Israel's Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar wrote on X.

Alex Ryvchin, co-CEO of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, told Sky News Sunday night that the "worst fears" of the Jewish community had been realised.

"It's been bubbling under the surface for a long time, and now it's actually happened."

In a statement, the Australia Jewish Association's Robert Gregory said many Jews would tonight be pondering whether they have a future in Australia.

"To be confronted with this horrific act of antisemitic violence during the Jewish festival of light and hope is shattering. In moments like this, we hold each other close," the Jewish Council of Australia said in a statement.

There's a lot police can't - or won't - say yet. But they have declared this was a terrorist attack.

Who the gunmen are - how many of them even - and their motive is still unclear. They said one of the attackers was known to police, but wasn't on their radar for anything like this.

Officials wouldn't answer any questions about those who died either, out of respect for families who are still being notified.

"It's too early to give that information," was the most frequent refrain uttered at a press conference late on Sunday night.

But where NSW Police Commissioner Mal Lanyon couldn't offer answers, he tried instead to offer reassurance. Police are throwing everything at this investigation, he said.

He urged the community to remain calm, and avoid spreading misinformation online - including speculating on the victims and perpetrators of the attack.

"I want to make sure that there is no retribution," Commissioner Lanyon said.

Local politicians have also asked people not to share graphic footage from the attack on social media.
In the aftermath of the shooting, sirens were ringing through the city and the area surrounding Bondi swarmed with police cars, helicopters circling above.

There we found Fin Green, who was on FaceTime with his family in the UK when he saw the shooting unfolding outside his window. Unsure what was happening, he hid in his wardrobe for an hour and a half, until he felt it was safe to go out.

Danny Clayton, a broadcast journalist who was at the beach and witnessed the events from the Bondi Pavilion, said some people crashed their cars as they attempted to flee.

Many others in the area had similar stories. Restaurant worker William Doliente Petty said he was serving someone when he heard the gunshots. "The whole shop just stood up and we ran into the back exit."

Australia prides itself on being a merry, safe country and Bondi Beach has long been a symbol of that. But that image has been shattered and residents are in disbelief.

Sunday's attack also came less than two years after another nearby tragedy. In April last year, a deadly mass stabbing attack took place at nearby Bondi Junction. Shocked, many then uttered the same words we've heard over and over today too: "This sort of thing just doesn't happen here".

Source: BBC
 
I have zero idea why the West opens its door to terrorist country citizens ..they should be all deported and total Muslim ban needs to be imposed otherwise the jihadis virus will consume everyone
 
I've internally wrestled with this definition of what constitutes a legitimate target in the conflict for some time. Obviously not for me to tell Palestinians how to resist, it's just my theory:

- Any Israeli settler residing beyond the pre-1967 borders (minus women and children under military age) is a legitimate target, i.e. the territories intended for a future Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. Any Israeli of military age living there is partaking in a genocidal enterprise.

- All Israeli military personnel/installations in the region.

- Israeli institutions that profit and/or contribute to the occupation.

- All pro-occupation Israeli lawmakers.

Civilians in Israel proper shouldn't be targeted because it's a) immoral and b) those territories aren't designated for a Palestinian state anyway. And random attacks on Jews worldwide is repulsive. Like the fall of Nazism, it'll take an international, multiethnic, multireligious coalition to defeat this evil. These attacks do nothing to build these alliances.

I don't know what you think.
I am not sure about the settlers or the organisations being targeted.


And completely agree about the Jewish civilians. The lives of innocent jewish kids playing on a beach in Aus are no less precious than innocent Palestinians playing on a beach in Gaza.

The "other side" may not believe this, but we need to make sure our Pro Palestinian Muslim side does. Otherwise we completely lose the moral argument.

And I actually don't agree with the multiethnic multi religious coalition. The attacks on Jewish places worldwide is a uniquely Muslim problem. We should be honest about it.
 
I have zero idea why the West opens its door to terrorist country citizens ..they should be all deported and total Muslim ban needs to be imposed otherwise the
Has the name , religion and nationality of the shooter been identified. Keep a check on that.
Oh do you need to guess or you are just being polite
 
Not surprised to see the usual suspects use this terrible tragedy to inject their trademark brand of bigotry, racism and ignorance into the discussion.

Thoughts and prayers with the families of the dearly departed, who were the victims of this abhorrent terrorist attack, an act that was very clearly targeted and antisemitic.

I hope this evil terrorist gets what’s coming to him.
Not just the evil terrorist...their supporters planners backer and the military that protects them needs to be eliminated...the entire world should join forces...and stop shedding crocodile tears...protectors of Osama hafeez ilyas and Masood...there is no bigotry here ..only facts
 
I've internally wrestled with this definition of what constitutes a legitimate target in the conflict for some time. Obviously not for me to tell Palestinians how to resist, it's just my theory:

- Any Israeli settler residing beyond the pre-1967 borders (minus women and children under military age) is a legitimate target, i.e. the territories intended for a future Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. Any Israeli of military age living there is partaking in a genocidal enterprise.

- All Israeli military personnel/installations in the region.

- Israeli institutions that profit and/or contribute to the occupation.

- All pro-occupation Israeli lawmakers.

Civilians in Israel proper shouldn't be targeted because it's a) immoral and b) those territories aren't designated for a Palestinian state anyway. And random attacks on Jews worldwide is repulsive. Like the fall of Nazism, it'll take an international, multiethnic, multireligious coalition to defeat this evil. These attacks do nothing to build these alliances.

I don't know what you think.

Acc to international law an occupying power has no right to self defence. Anyone who is the adult who is part of the occupation is a legal combatant. However you cannot endanger lives or kil
Non-combatants in their pursuit
 
Huge respect to this guy. He put his life on the line there knowing another gunman was operating nearby who could have had a shot at him.

 
I am not sure how a person can hold the belief that the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians and collective punishment, needs to be punished through collective punishment of Jewish people in a 3rd country.

What the hell does this achieve apart from more misery and bloodshed?
Everything’s is false flag for you, no wonder there is no accountability amongst the community with such thinking
 
Everything’s is false flag for you, no wonder there is no accountability amongst the community with such thinking
Where did I mention the word false flag?

Just because you can't understand English, doesn't mean you should be throwing out dumb posts.

Stick to breaking chairs in stadiums for Messi.
 
wait and watch. this tread my get lost in cyberspace
and what gives you such an irrational thought that PP would take down one of its active threads just because the identity of the killer is not yet confirmed and is indicted as a Pakistani?
 
Not just the evil terrorist...their supporters planners backer and the military that protects them needs to be eliminated...the entire world should join forces...and stop shedding crocodile tears...protectors of Osama hafeez ilyas and Masood...there is no bigotry here ..only facts


That would probably be Netenyahu to be fair.
 
there are 4 versions

1. Israel did it
2. false flag by australia
3. its naveed khan from afghanistan
4. its neaveed akram from pakistan

which one is it?
 
Yes it's true that you and whoever put this graph out needs to understand how timezones work but it's really not that complicated. My fifth grade is learning the concepts right now and textbooks are available.
cold bro... cold.
 
Yes it's true that you and whoever put this graph out needs to understand how timezones work but it's really not that complicated. My fifth grade is learning the concepts right now and textbooks are available.

Someone said the same thing to the guy who posted this on X, and he replied that it had also been searched on 10 December.

But when I looked further back, over the last five years, it turns out it was searched in 2023 so it could have been in the planning stages since then :ROFLMAO:
 
Someone said the same thing to the guy who posted this on X, and he replied that it had also been searched on 10 December.

But when I looked further back, over the last five years, it turns out it was searched in 2023 so it could have been in the planning stages since then :ROFLMAO:
Yeah I'm afraid I'll need a bit more evidence from a source other than 'Israel Exposed' before I accept that it was trumpeted around in Tel Aviv that a dude named Naveed Akram was going to be murdering a bunch of Jews on Hanukkah in Bondi beach.
 
False Flag attacks or countries getting their own citizens killed to blame someone else might happen 1 out of a million terrorist incidents. Why is it always Pakistanis go to excuse- could be a false flag by Australia or Israel plotting to kills its own citizens 🤦‍♂️
 
Yeah I'm afraid I'll need a bit more evidence from a source other than 'Israel Exposed' before I accept that it was trumpeted around in Tel Aviv that a dude named Naveed Akram was going to be murdering a bunch of Jews on Hanukkah in Bondi beach.

I don’t think anything official has been released by any reputable or credible news outlets yet regarding the identification of the attackers. At the moment, everything being discussed appears to be speculation, people pushing assumptions and advancing their own agendas. It’s better to wait for confirmed, official information before jumping to conclusions.
 
False Flag attacks or countries getting their own citizens killed to blame someone else might happen 1 out of a million terrorist incidents. Why is it always Pakistanis go to excuse- could be a false flag by Australia or Israel plotting to kills its own citizens 🤦‍♂️
Agreed.

but Pahalgam was definitely a false-flag

India had a motive I don't see Australia having a motive.

Israel don't need to a motive they attack who ever they want when ever they want.
 
I still cant get over the shock, strange feeling, I was in Bondi with my Bestie, his wife and 3 kids 4 weeks ago. This could've easily happened to us. I guess it wasn't our time to die, what kinda world am I living in....
 
I still cant get over the shock, strange feeling, I was in Bondi with my Bestie, his wife and 3 kids 4 weeks ago. This could've easily happened to us. I guess it wasn't our time to die, what kinda world am I living in....

That's scary. You should register for a firearm, maybe a tiny pistol like a Glock 42. Very handy in these situations.

Would u have a tackled the shooter if he was near to you ? I have a feeling given your malayali genes, you would've run faster than Usain Bolt, from the scene.
 
Look at the headlines of the thread? They are calling these terrorists as gunman because terrorist involved in this terrorist attacks belongs to Muslim. Hypocrisy to dekho inki .

:kp
 
Yes, and this is the second time in 10 years (remember the Lindt Cafe siege in 2014?). It's hit hard enough so please GTFO back where you came from, thank you very much.

It was a Muslim immigrant who disabled one killer . Where were you or the decedents of Cook or cons? This a global issue. Your nation is built on genocide and participated in occupying foreign lands with others who never attacked you. Not many are innocent or less evil than these perpetrators.
 
Yes, and this is the second time in 10 years (remember the Lindt Cafe siege in 2014?). It's hit hard enough so please GTFO back where you came from, thank you very much.

Convicts playing the blame game is like Pot calling the kettle black. People with zero identity and not the True natives!
This is coming from a Half Native English!
 
I hope Australia treats the attackers like we in NZ treated that mass shooter a few years ago - condemned to be forgotten.

Also, anyone who walked for Palestine invited this nonsense. It had nothing to do with us and a bunch of leftist chicks bringing a foreign issue into Australia are morons.

You've shown your hypocrisy in a matter of half an hour.
 
False Flag attacks or countries getting their own citizens killed to blame someone else might happen 1 out of a million terrorist incidents. Why is it always Pakistanis go to excuse- could be a false flag by Australia or Israel plotting to kills its own citizens 🤦‍♂️

Evidence was Pakistani chocolate.
 
From which nation and how long ago, might I ask?

From one which was occupied by the British , they were invited to come after ww2 to help build the country. Were yours ?

It was disgusting what took place today , Sydney is an amazing place , very peaceful in general . But you blaming all people who look like the killers makes you not much better than him . Get some education pal
 
From one which was occupied by the British , they were invited to come after ww2 to help build the country. Were yours ?

It was disgusting what took place today , Sydney is an amazing place , very peaceful in general . But you blaming all people who look like the killers makes you not much better than him . Get some education pal

I'm half Aussie and half Kiwi, born and raised in Napier and lived in Manchester for a while too.

Muslim immigrants are nothing but trouble, be it in the UK, Australia or elsewhere. They come to the West to get a better life but bite the hand that feeds them with all their medieval practices.
 
I'm half Aussie and half Kiwi, born and raised in Napier and lived in Manchester for a while too.

Muslim immigrants are nothing but trouble, be it in the UK, Australia or elsewhere. They come to the West to get a better life but bite the hand that feeds them with all their medieval practices.

So you’re an immigrant just not a recent . Youre ancestors have more blood on their hands than any Muslims arriving . Why don’t you acknowledge this and also why not commend the Muslim who took the weapon off the killer. ?

I answered now your turn if you have self respect
 
So you’re an immigrant just not a recent . Youre ancestors have more blood on their hands than any Muslims arriving . Why don’t you acknowledge this and also why not commend the Muslim who took the weapon off the killer. ?

I answered now your turn if you have self respect

I live in the 20th and 21st century, not in the 6th and 7th. I suggest you do the same.
 
I'm half Aussie and half Kiwi, born and raised in Napier and lived in Manchester for a while too.

Muslim immigrants are nothing but trouble, be it in the UK, Australia or elsewhere. They come to the West to get a better life but bite the hand that feeds them with all their medieval practices.

We in the West have Colonised the world with Mass Murder and Opression and still are. The world is burdened with Hypocrisy and deception
 
I live in the 20th and 21st century, not in the 6th and 7th. I suggest you do the same.

You don’t , you are sharing a 17th century mentality of supremacism and hate which wiped out the Tasmanians . You can’t even type on an anonymous forum you thank him for saving Australian lives
 
We in the West have Colonised the world with Mass Murder and Opression and still are. The world is burdened with Hypocrisy and deception

Assuming you too are an Islamic immigrant to Britain, please stop using the word "we". You haven't colonized anybody, and any such thing happened long before you were born anyhow.

Here and now, you are endangering the precious lives of people around you and you need to be sent back to the country of your heritage.
 
One day these Western/White nations will understand that bombing Muslims countries illegally and for fun will have reprecussions.

More people have died at the hands of White Terrorism in humanity compared with anyone else/ideology. Fact.
 
Notice how these racist ignores the crimes of their white ancestors and instead play the - go home card.

Pathetic breed, don't even realise Islam is not a race, it's an ideology that doesn't need to be imported with immigrants.
 
One day these Western/White nations will understand that bombing Muslims countries illegally and for fun will have reprecussions.

More people have died at the hands of White Terrorism in humanity compared with anyone else/ideology. Fact.

Some are ignorance of their own history . These are on or near the sea off what is today Australia. This nothing new on the beaches of this land but some don’t understand evil is all potentially


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How many bombs did Australia drop on Iraq? How many innocent civilians did the forces down under kill in the US Led war in Iraq?

The gall of these people to think they are squeaky clean!
 
Notice how these racist ignores the crimes of their white ancestors and instead play the - go home card.

Disregard centuries past. Here and now, why do you think killing people around you is okay?

Apart from murder, what other repercussions do you threaten? Have you acted on one or the other so far?
 
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