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Anyone been watching Beef?
Fantastic show IMO and very well written. Funny, heartbreaking and unpredictable.
Have seen Scoop. Tremendous watch. Karishma Tanna was great as protagonist.The sensational murder of India's best known crime reporter in June 2011 and the subsequent arrest of a female crime journalist on allegations of being involved in the murder had stunned the country.
Jyotirmoy Dey, popularly known as J Dey, was shot dead in Mumbai by men on motorcycles on orders from one of India's most notorious gangsters, Chhota Rajan - he was convicted in 2018 and is serving a life sentence for the killing.
But somehow, Jigna Vora, a newspaper journalist, got caught up in the storm and was charged - falsely - for involvement in the murder.
She spent over nine months in Byculla jail before being released on bail. A single parent to a 10-year-old boy, Ms Vora was acquitted in 2018 since the police failed to produce any evidence against her.
This story of a journalist's murder - and of another's wrongful confinement - is the subject of Scoop, a new webseries on Netflix that is wowing critics and viewers alike.
Based on Ms Vora's 2019 memoir - Behind The Bars In Byculla: My Days in Prison - Scoop is a gripping tale of a real-life crime, Mumbai's mafia and the role of the police and the press. Many of the real-life incidents have been replicated, but Ms Vora says "the series makers have exercised cinematic leverage".
As Ms Vora's screen avatar Jagruti Pathak, who lives by chasing scoops that would get her a byline on the front page, ends up in a prison cell with those she once reported on, she also begins to reflect on her life and priorities.
Ms Vora told the BBC that she's pleased with the way the series has turned out but watching it was difficult.
"It was like revisiting the whole trauma. It was difficult to see on screen what I went through, the humiliation and character assassination I faced. But I'm happy that the series got made because people needed to see the truth that I was not guilty.
A few months after J Dey's murder, rumours started swirling around that a female crime reporter was involved in the murder. Some of it was reported in the media, attributed to police sources.
"We were also wondering who it could be? It didn't even cross my mind that it could be me," she told me.
In October-end when one newspaper carried a report naming her, she says her first reaction was of shock. She then knew that her arrest was imminent - and she was arrested on 25 November.
"It was a very tough period for me, I was scared, I even thought of committing suicide, but my family inspired me to fight. They told me that if I killed myself, then people would think that I was guilty. If I wanted to clear my name, I had to fight."
J Dey's murder, Ms Vora says, changed her life forever. The police said she was involved with the underworld and had helped the murderers by providing them information about J Dey. She was charged under the draconian Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act (Mcoca) - a law that carries the death penalty in serious cases.
The sinister attraction of Indian true crime shows
Some in the Mumbai press went after her, with many of her former colleagues taking a vicarious pleasure in her downfall. She was dubbed a murderer, a gangster's moll. They carried unverified stories, often attributed to "sources in the police", and criticised her for being "too ambitious".
"I think there's nothing wrong with being ambitious," she tells me. "But in my case it was used to portray me as a villain."
What hurt most, Ms Vohra says, was "when female colleagues and editors made disparaging remarks about me, saying that I was sleeping around with people to get stories, but I had no-one to tell my side of the story to".
The series captures the media circus as reporters hound her family, including her son. The child looks bewildered and terrified as TV cameras are thrust in his face, asking him about the alleged crimes of his mother.
Prison was "a very difficult phase of life, I think it would have been for anyone in my position", Ms Vora says. But the prison inmates, she adds, were very helpful and tried to cheer her up.
"The prison officials also treated me well, they'd counsel me telling me to take each day as it comes and that everything will be alright."
The 'dancing on the grave' murder that shook India
Ms Vora, who was cleared of all charges by the trial court and then the high court, says she has "no idea who fixed me".
"The only thing I know is that it happened - and I accept it as my karma. Now even if I do find out who fixed me, would I be able to change anything?" she asks.
While in jail, she says, she did a lot of soul searching and after being released on bail, she "started the process of healing myself".
"I started meditating and once out, I visited lots of temples and all that helped me gain my inner strength. I was always a believer, and now my faith in God increased."
Since it dropped on Netflix in early June, Scoop remains among the most popular shows in India - weeks after its release, it remains at number two in the list of top 10. It has also wowed critics who have described it as "a gripping tale of the fourth estate" and "a must watch for all journalists".
Filmmaker Hansal Mehta who directed Scoop says he had followed Ms Vora's case in 2011.
"But like all headlines, her story was replaced by some other headline. While it got confined to inside pages, she and her family bore the trauma of being labelled without judicial process," he told The Times of India.
In 2020, when Ms Vora's book was shared with him, he says he saw "the potential to engage with the audiences on a story that is both a cautionary tale and an important chronicle of our times".
Ms Vora says when she heard that Mr Mehta was going to be the director, "I knew that he would be able to do justice to my story". But, she says, she didn't expect this kind of response.
"People are sending me messages of love and respect on social media, they're telling me that this series has helped them see the truth, many are saying that I'm very strong - but what choice did I have?" she asks.
A tenacious reporter, Ms Vora had carved out a name for herself in crime journalism in just a few years, but after her stint in jail, she never returned to journalism. Today, she makes a living as a healer, working as an astrologer and a life coach.
The media trial that she faced more than a decade back - and the ones that take place every night in television studios where reputations are destroyed based on speculation and unsubstantiated allegations - make her uncomfortable.
Her story, she says, should serve as a lesson for the press to be careful because their reporting can destroy lives.
"The press is called the fourth estate - they are very powerful, they can make or break a person. I hope they understand the seriousness of the job that they do and mend their ways.
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Could you guys recommend some romantic drama movies for me to watch on weekends?
very old nowKal Ho Na Ho
Titanic
About time, Tamasha, ticket to paradiseCould you guys recommend some romantic drama movies for me to watch on weekends?
very old now
Currently watching 'Fool Me Once' on Netflix. It's good so far.
I've been watching Daredevil series. I'm on season 2 and it's been really good to watch so far.
Has anyone else seen it?
Used to discuss the Marvel Netflix in the start of this thread I think,I've been watching Daredevil series. I'm on season 2 and it's been really good to watch so far.
Has anyone else seen it?
Amazing show, the cinematography is outstanding and the fight sequences are some of the best I’ve ever seen in TV. Unfortunately, Disney have taken over so I don’t have high hopes for the reboot
Used to discuss the Marvel Netflix in the start of this thread I think,
Jessica Jones Daredevil and Luke were good ones.
In terms of original content I have to say Hulu beats the hell out of Netflix.
The bear is easily the best show in last 2 years, and with Shogun already getting rave reviews another feather in their cap.
They definitely have better writers and patient producers.
Hopefully Disney doesn’t ruin them.
Have you finished? What did you think at the end?Currently watching 'Fool Me Once' on Netflix. It's good so far.
Have you finished? What did you think at the end?
I enjoyed it but part way through it got a bit too erratic
That scene with the Punisher in Court will always remain iconic.
Not sure if you've watched The Defenders but I've read that one should watch this after finishing season 2 of Daredevil before moving on to season 3. What your thoughts on that?
Have you finished? What did you think at the end?
I enjoyed it but part way through it got a bit too erratic
I knew you would love the wwe deal, and in honesty its a great deal because Netflix is not meant for live sport as such and Wwe has value without being live.Watched the first episode of Shogun - 10/10, it’s incredible, on par if not better than other similar shows. The best comparison perhaps with Vikings. It’s not fantasy but the production values are similar to GOT and Rings Of Power.
Netflix is more of an archive of shows we loved to watch, and they justify the subscription for the replay value; e.g the animated Batman series they got the rights to more recently. But purely on originals, they have the lowest quality output, they even let go of Mike Flanagan and Fincher may not be too far behind. The WWE deal is a landmark collab though but I think the time for expecting elite originals from them has passed, Apple are catching up fast as well, I’ve not watched a bad original on there yet
I knew you would love the wwe deal, and in honesty its a great deal because Netflix is not meant for live sport as such and Wwe has value without being live.
I agree on originals, Netflix’s value is more on tech , everyone underestimated the cost of tech, Netflix is literally the company that made micro services popular.
Peacock which has the best content is going through loss due to glitchy app and what not.
I liked One Day.. much better than the movie.They will absorb a lot of the WWE Network subscribers to, I think a big chunk of the Network content is going to make its way to Netflix; I rarely subscribe to the Network now, but for those who’d like to have both, this will be a steal. But the originals are poor, anything new that’s decent? last high quality original I watched was Fall Of The House Of Usher.
Both Netflix & The WWE Network changed the game for entertainment and sports streaming, ironic they have come together
12th fail is a rare movie , Bollywood only made such movies once in a while.12th Fail was a reminder for me as to why I used to like bollywood movies.
Garbage like Pathan, Jawaan & Animal really left a bad taste.
To me Animal is good, liked it very much..12th Fail was a reminder for me as to why I used to like bollywood movies.
Garbage like Pathan, Jawaan & Animal really left a bad taste.
I watched half of it and got a headache with the nonsense and forceful aggression and humour.To me Animal is good, liked it very much..
Acting wasn’t upto the mark for me, I went to cinema after a while and somewhat disappointed with the acting but tremendous direction sets and cinematography, ofcourse the music as well.DUNE 2 - High level entertainment on the screen, outstanding cinematography and had its own distinct visual style, I enjoyed the plot to but the atmosphere created made the movie for me and it completely utilised every resource available in that sense.
Biggest negative is perhaps the length and also lack of pay off.
When LOTR was written in each part, the writer seamlessly moved to the next phase in the story. It’s a big forced here, Frank Herbert didn’t write DUNE that way, so the movie people have to figure out when and how to split the story, and it hasn’t been done too well in that regard, so taking 1 point off for this.
8/10
im a few episodes into in, entertaining, but very cliche, seems very obviously catered to American perceptions of brits imo.Just watched "the gentlemen" - 8 episode series, really good
Acting wasn’t upto the mark for me, I went to cinema after a while and somewhat disappointed with the acting but tremendous direction sets and cinematography, ofcourse the music as well.
Worm scenes were the best.
Netflix to launch ‘first Pakistani show’
Reports were again circulating on social media that the first Pakistani show is soon to be launched on Netflix, according to a report.
“Pakistan’s first #Netflix project will soon go on the floor. Directed by Momina Duraid, it is based on Farhat Ishtiaq’s novel #JoBacheHainSangSamaitLo,” Entertainment Journalist Hasan Kazmi claimed on Twitter.
Initially, Fawad Khan and Ayesha Umar were reported to play the lead roles in the show. But it was later reported that Hamza Ali Abbasi, his wife Naimal Khawar and Mahira Khan were set to appear on the show.
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I watched 12th fail again and have to say it might be the best movie bollywood has made in last 10 years.
After seeing how Dunki was it does seem VVC was the reason for Raju’s direction.
On the movie , VVc was the first to use cinematography to its best extent in Parinda when Bollywood absolutely sucked in that department, and the beautiful cinematography and editing of 12th fail are something that I’m sure will inspire many filmmakers.
The story acting takes the center stage for this movie, the idea of haves and have nots, bringing change with knowledge of what is possible is what aim of education should be and I’m glad that one person can inspire changes in society.
9/10 probably the only deserved Indian movie rating on IMDB.
Which is that lol? Dunki? I gave jawan and Pthan a try i didn’t have it in me for Dunki lol.Have you seen the SRK movie where they strip the farmer, ffs that’s Bollywood now
Which is that lol? Dunki? I gave jawan and Pthan a try i didn’t have it in me for Dunki lol.
I did like Rocky Aur Rani ki Kahani and Animal.
I highly recommend 12th fail, problem with though is no song and dance..
Oh lol just remembered, sorry forgot his entourage in that movieIt was in Jawaan, one of the jail girls father was a farmer who was stripped up and humiliated by the loan sharks and then committed suicide.
Yet another propaganda trash. The way feku was shown as the only patriot in India and the entire opposition was shown as traitor is enough for anyone suss out the intentions of the makers.I watched the movie Article 370 last night on Netflix. Another Modi appreciation movie. I am surprised that Modi has also taken control of Bollywood, so now most Bollywood movies are based on Modi's agenda.
I watched the movie Article 370 last night on Netflix. Another Modi appreciation movie. I am surprised that Modi has also taken control of Bollywood, so now most Bollywood movies are based on Modi's agenda.
@shaz619 Telegram banned in Pak sadly. But tell me have you heard about Batman: Caped Crusader?
I dunno if I've talked about this with you before. But Bruce Timm and others behind Batman TAS are bringing a new show that will be very similar in animation but set in an older time period. The show has been stuck in developmental hell where it was ordered by Max but then not picked up. Thankfully though Amazon did pick it up and will be releasing it this year. Some of the character designs even leaked online.