New Zealand (200/3) thrash Australia (111 all out) by 89 runs in the opening game of the Super 12s

[bujhee kom]

Straight ramming.

 

[jnaveen1980]

That was not my question read again and try to answer, when last time maxwell did something special for team?

That is exactly why Australia is not doing great. Been 2 years. Consequently. Austarlia's T20 record in last 2 yeasr 43 matches won 20 lost 20. They haven't exactly been doing well. Before those 2 years Austarlia won 20 out of 33. Maxie was big part of it.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Will OZs fallback and bring Smith to bat at 4

 

[bujhee kom]

NRR will matter. Aus should try to bat through to narrow the magnitude of the loss.

 

[gazza619]

Cheat wade is out. Deserves ever bit of bad luck this guy.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

That is exactly why Australia is not doing great. Been 2 years. Consequently. Austarlia's T20 record in last 2 yeasr 43 matches won 20 lost 20. They haven't exactly been doing well. Before those 2 years Austarlia won 20 out of 33. Maxie was big part of it.

What????
Didn't they won t20 WC last year? What was Maxwell's contributions in it?

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

What else big 3 can do nothing!

With Aus and Eng who have toured your backyard and NZ to follow, is'nt Big 3 updated/upgraded now to big one? when they pulled out last year, your guys were jumping up and down as if ants were in your pants about the Big 3 saazish rinse repeat, when wil u look inwards?

 

[jnaveen1980]

This also does one thing. WIll make a huge dent in the NRR. England doesn't have to worry about either of these sides. I won't be shocked if NZ can pull this off against England too. But England won't bat like this.

 

[zaidihusain]

Today Kiwis has played modern day T20 cricket in true sense. When you bat first, start attacking from ball 1 and put the opposition under pressure. Look for target of 180 plus or 200 and then your ballers will do rest of the job. 8 out of 10 times you will win the game with this mindset

 

[jnaveen1980]

What????
Didn't they won t20 WC last year? What was Maxwell's contributions in it?

I told you that was a fluke win due to winning 6 tosses in a row. One time they abtted first they were decimated by England

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Australia might be in for an early exit after todays game.. Newzealand is fairly the easiest opponent compared to England

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Maxwell gone lol

 

[Rana]

Australia just didn’t turn up today

Very poor start to their campaign

They have to win every game now to retain their title!

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Today Kiwis has played modern day T20 cricket in true sense. When you bat first, start attacking from ball 1 and put the opposition under pressure. Look for target of 180 plus or 200 and then your ballers will do rest of the job. 8 out of 10 times you will win the game with this mindset

Indeed , intent is what matters the most..

 

[jnaveen1980]

2 good innings completely knocked Australia's socks off. That's it. Nature of T20.Australia will be mighty disappointed if they get eliminated early. This will make the England vs Australia match very interesting.

 

[Rana]

Bring on Boult and southee to get the 100 run win

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Say what you want.

This win was set by Finn Allen hitting 42 off 16 balls.

Something Pakistani fans refuse to acknowledge.

 

[Kriketer]

All earlier so called expert analysis as Australia being favorites to win WC has come down crashing with this opening game. NZ has done an excellent job here, this performance is enough to give them confidence to take them to semis with ease

 

[ask_analyse_act]

With all that reverse sweep and switch hits could only make 28(20) .. Poor maxie..

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

I told you that was a fluke win due to winning 6 tosses in a row. One time they abtted first they were decimated by England

Fluke? Fluke? Fluke?
Everything goes against your argument is fluke, is mamoon your neighbor?
Imagine some 2nd tier team won the WC and people calling it fluke lol pathetic

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Say what you want.

This win was set by Finn Allen hitting 42 off 16 balls.

Something Pakistani fans refuse to acknowledge.

Totally agree... 4 overs 56 put the opponent under pressure...

 

[Asif321]

So much for favourites lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

Say what you want.

This win was set by Finn Allen hitting 42 off 16 balls.

Something Pakistani fans refuse to acknowledge.

Yes. There is no ambiguity there. Time and again i have seen. i have also experienced as a fan. Greatbatch, Gilchrist, Jayasuriya starting aggressively in a world cup match put us straight away on the backfoot. Scrambled thinking from captains. It creates a cascading effect when a batsman comes hard at you.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Fluke? Fluke? Fluke?
Everything goes against your argument is fluke, is mamoon your neighbor?
Imagine some 2nd tier team won the WC and people calling it fluke lol pathetic

Dude. Finch himself admitted we were lucky to win so many tosses in a row.

 

[Kriketer]

Say what you want.

This win was set by Finn Allen hitting 42 off 16 balls.

Something Pakistani fans refuse to acknowledge.

Or perhaps a 200/0 run chase wouldn't have been bad either for Australia like those top gun openers do it

 

[Dr_Bassim]

But some people think Rizwan and Babar hitting 45-0 is better than changing openers and trying alternatives.

And then talk about winning the World Cup with such cowardice.

 

[Ahmed216]

Say what you want.

This win was set by Finn Allen hitting 42 off 16 balls.

Something Pakistani fans refuse to acknowledge.

Sharjeel can do the same for us? Isn’t it

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Or perhaps a 200/0 run chase wouldn't have been bad either for Australia like those top gun openers do it

Sure against England C.

I will be happy to be proven wrong in this WC.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Dude. Finch himself admitted we were lucky to win so many tosses in a row.

Be consistent dude. It was fluke or luck?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Guptill's T20 career is over you can safely say. I still think Williamson doesn't deserve a spot but for his captaincy. Guptill is still a better bet.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Be consistent dude. It was fluke or luck?

Both are same in the context. You don't expect to win that many tosses in a row. They looked a pathetic side when they were buttlered. England looked way superior to them.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

All earlier so called expert analysis as Australia being favorites to win WC has come down crashing with this opening game. NZ has done an excellent job here, this performance is enough to give them confidence to take them to semis with ease

Nz and Eng are going to semis from here... Australia have to play really well to beat England who are in red hot form and been playing modern t20 game...

 

[sweep_shot]

What a performance from New Zealand!

Demolishing the Aussies in their own backyard.

 

[alone1213]

LOL at the end australia has been decimated by this New Zealand side.
Almost everybody predicted Australia to roll over new Zealand.
On star sports 65 percent "experts" predicted Australia to win the world cup.

 

[jnaveen1980]

wow they are still 100 runs behind. Will they play for NRR? It is impossible now.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Sharjeel can do the same for us? Isn’t it

Forget Sharjeel.

Even Shan did something better in the practice game.

Its called willing to try.

But you cant comprehend moving the "Untouchables".

 

[Ahmed216]

Sure against England C.

I will be happy to be proven wrong in this WC.

U’ll always be proven right because you want Babar and Rizwan to win every game on their own. Other 9 players don’t have any accountability.

 

[sweep_shot]

Aussies are now in real danger of getting knocked out due to poor NRR.

If England beat Australia, Aussies have a good chance of being eliminated.

 

[jnaveen1980]

England has to beat Australia, NZ just has to lose gracefully against England. That's it. Australia will rely on Srilanka beating New zealand now. You never know. Things can happen. SL is not such a terrible side in certain condtiions.

 

[Ahmed216]

Forget Sharjeel.

Even Shan did something better in the practice game.

Its called willing to try.

But you cant comprehend moving the "Untouchables".

PRACTICE game sir.

 

[alone1213]

Forget Sharjeel.

Even Shan did something better in the practice game.

Its called willing to try.

But you cant comprehend moving the "Untouchables".

In the warm up Pakistan couldn't score more than 160 due to the worst middle order.

Even if Pakistan gets good score in powerplay they still would botch things up. Pakistan haven't got middle order.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

U’ll always be proven right because you want Babar and Rizwan to win every game on their own. Other 9 players don’t have any accountability.

I think you take too much context in bilaterals.

However, its the other way around.

Babar and Rizwan can play however slow they want.

Its upto the remaining 9 to heroically save the match EACH and EVERY time either by batting @200 or bowling magically.

 

[Rana]

Sharjeel Khan would murder pace bowlers on these tracks

 

[sweep_shot]

Australia should try to reach 150-160. That can do some damage control.

They can fix the NRR against Afghans and Ireland.

 

[alone1213]

Australia's net run rate is gonna get seriously hurt.
New Zealand have knocked Australia out of the tournament.

 

[PakPremi]

Against B/C teams?

Because I didn’t see them demonstrating the art they mastered against Sri Lanka, England and NZ in 3 back to back finals )

But were those teams not B/C level bowling teams,so why they did not do it against them?

 

[sweep_shot]

Wicket.

109/8.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australia's record in last 6 T20 series

LOST, LOST, LOST, WON (vs BD), LOST, LOST

 

[Markhor]

What a mauling from NZL, a fantastic performance after years of painful losses at AUS's hands.
[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] must be dancing on his rooftop

 

[sweep_shot]

Australia's net run rate is gonna get seriously hurt.
New Zealand have knocked Australia out of the tournament.

They can fix the NRR against Afghanistan, Ireland, and possibly SL too.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Gee whiz...what a caning for aus...in their own backyard.
Their NRR must take a real whack from here

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Both are same in the context. You don't expect to win that many tosses in a row. They looked a pathetic side when they were buttlered. England looked way superior to them.

But wait how we can say winning a WC is fluke? That's harsh

Imagine India winning next WC and people saying it's fluke epic!

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australia has to shed oldies including Warner. NZ brought in a noob. Look he is the hero today undoubtedly.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Funny how people have knocked Australia out of the tournament after first match.

 

[sweep_shot]

Another wicket.

109/9.

Why are they trying to slog? They should play out overs and get as close as possible.

 

[Saj]

Funny how people have knocked Australia out of the tournament after first match.

Yes, this will hurt them.

Don't write them off just yet, they will bounce back.

 

[jnaveen1980]

But wait how we can say winning a WC is fluke? That's harsh

Imagine India winning next WC and people saying it's fluke

Pretty much anyone who watched that farce of a world T20 would understand what i am talking about. That is why i never rated Austarlia as a T20 side even before this match.

 

[Ahmed216]

I think you take too much context in bilaterals.

However, its the other way around.

Babar and Rizwan can play however slow they want.

Its upto the remaining 9 to heroically save the match EACH and EVERY time either by batting @200 or bowling magically.

They are not as slow as u think sir.
They regularly give us starts of 90-100 in 12 overs.
Their slight caution is justified considering our weak middle order

 

[Ahmed216]

Sharjeel Khan would murder pace bowlers on these tracks

Asif ali will do it better

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Yes, this will hurt them.

Don't write them off just yet, they will bounce back.

yep. you never now. Afg could roll over Eng. Anything could happen. the hosts r still in it.

 

[Xoib]

Sharjeel Khan would murder pace bowlers on these tracks

Sharjeel Khan can not even murder PSL attacks these days all he will murder in Australia is the buffet table.

 

[bujhee kom]

Today Kiwis has played modern day T20 cricket in true sense. When you bat first, start attacking from ball 1 and put the opposition under pressure. Look for target of 180 plus or 200 and then your ballers will do rest of the job. 8 out of 10 times you will win the game with this mindset

You need the players to pull this off, of course.

 

[Saj]

3 horse race this group in theory - Aus, NZ and Eng.

Aus NRR taking a hammering too.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Yes, this will hurt them.

Don't write them off just yet, they will bounce back.

Anyone can come back. They did come back after battering against England. Who knows they might beat England too. Having said that they are using the same old personnel for years. So they have become predictable. Sometimes experience can be your enemy in this format.

 

[sweep_shot]

3 horse race this group in theory - Aus, NZ and Eng.

Aus NRR taking a hammering too.

Pretty much.

This is why this game is vital and Aussies bottled it.

 

[IAJ]

That’s some dent in Aussie’s NRR.

 

[Kriketer]

Sure against England C.

I will be happy to be proven wrong in this WC.

Same C team which had the top performers against Australia T20 series which England just won (apart from one opener). Perhaps check the team before making a naive comment, ppl only end up making a tool out of themselves when they post such childish B or C team argument.

Between that world class opening pair has done many more run chases, now go through all those game and dig out your alphabets to label the losing side with against our World Class openers. C to Z are your obvious choices

 

[Hextro]

NZ has absolutely destroyed Aus here. Recovering psychologically from this hammering in the opening match will be difficult for Aus.

 

[jnaveen1980]

England must be thoroughly enjoying this. Australia is the only team that can kind of challenge England in crunch games despite being not as good as England. Now they just have to beat them to completely eliminate them.

 

[sweep_shot]

All over.

NZ win by 89 runs.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

They are not as slow as u think sir.
They regularly give us starts of 90-100 in 12 overs.
Their slight caution is justified considering our weak middle order

By the time they leave the crease they have played 12 to 13 overs.

Remaining 7 batsmen have no luxury of seeing the ball and need to hit at SR of 200 to get Pakistan to 170 or 180.

If a batsman has played 40 balls in a T20, he should be nowhere near 50 runs, which is mostly the case with them.

 

[alone1213]

I would expect England to beat New Zealand and then England and New Zealand will be through to the semi finals but it's cricket especially T20 cricket so anything can happen but New zealand has seriously hurt australia here.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Anyone can come back. They did come back after battering against England. Who knows they might beat England too. Having said that they are using the same old personnel for years. So they have become predictable. Sometimes experience can be your enemy in this format.

Speaking of old personnel, we are the kings of old personnel.
same old Sir Bhuvi Sobers after year after year of mediocrity. And now with the departure of bharat arun, Ravi S etc, our mindset is changed to selecting these same trundlers, halwa harshal, novesh avesh and the like.
Same old same old.

 

[Visaal-E-Yaar]

Pretty much anyone who watched that farce of a world T20 would understand what i am talking about. That is why i never rated Austarlia as a T20 side even before this match.

Wait. Wait
It was fluke or luck or toss?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Same C team which had the top performers against Australia T20 series which England just won (apart from one opener). Perhaps check the team before making a naive comment, ppl only end up making a tool out of themselves when they post such childish B or C team argument.

Between that world class opening pair has done many more run chases, now go through all those game and dig out your alphabets to label the losing side with against our World Class openers. C to Z are your obvious choices

See if you want to remain in your alternative world in which Babar and Rizwan are the best opening pair in T20 history, I won't bother you.

But watch how the World Cup unfolds and don't make excuses by saying "middle order weak" and all that, when things don't go your way.

That's all I ask.

 

[MenInG]

 

[Coolcapri]

Fantastic win by NZ, Complete all-round performance.

 

[Kriketer]

3 horse race this group in theory - Aus, NZ and Eng.

Aus NRR taking a hammering too.

England vs NZ game will be quite exciting. NZ could well take a hammering in it depending on England performance and that could offset against today's Aussies nrr beating. Underdog team winning opening games always makes up for an exciting tournament

 

[jnaveen1980]

I would expect England to beat New Zealand and then England and New Zealand will be through to the semi finals but it's cricket especially T20 cricket so anything can happen but New zealand has seriously hurt australia here.

Are you counting Srilanka completely out? NZ is playing Srilanka at the SCG. Think about Hasranga, Theekshana on turning SCG.

 

[ex-q-zit]

With such a huge margin of defeat it looks tough for Australia to qualify for semis. They need to hope England loses to them and NZ. If England defeat NZ then Australia will have to defeat England by a huge margin which isn't easy.