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The Boxing Day cricket test will write a new chapter in New Zealand this summer.

After previously being staged at Wellington’s Basin Reserve, then Christchurch’s Hagley Oval, the on-off fixture this year moves to Mt Maunganui’s Bay Oval, with the Black Caps taking on Pakistan in the first test of a two-match series.

Ahead of its return to the calendar, Stuff looks back on the seven previous editions, which have thrown up no shortage of action.

1998 – New Zealand v India, Basin Reserve, Wellington
India 208 (M Azharuddin 103no; S Doull 7-65) and 356 (S Tendulkar 113; D Nash 3-20) lost to New Zealand 352 (D Nash 89no, D Vettori 57, N Astle 56; A Kumble 4-83) and 215-6 (C McMillan 74no, C Cairns 61; J Srinath 3-82) by 4 wickets.

Man of the match: Simon Doull

In the first-ever Boxing Day test on Kiwi shores, Simon Doull snared a seven-wicket haul on the opening day against India.
The inaugural Boxing Day test on Kiwi soil was the crowning glory of Simon Doull’s career.

More than 9000 fans baked in the heat at the Basin Reserve and rose and chanted Doull’s name as they were treated to an extra helping of Christmas goodness with his stunning 7-65.

Under an injury cloud with a calf strain going into the match, the right-arm swing bowler defied his troubles to produce what at the time were the fourth-best test innings bowling figures by a New Zealander, and which to this day remain eighth.

After India won the toss and elected to bat, Doull set the tone in striking with the final ball of the day’s first over to dismiss Navjot Sidhu, and soon enough added the scalps of Rahul Dravid, Ajay Jadeja and Sourav Ganguly to have the visitors in dire straits at 16-4.

After lunch, Doull returned to dismiss The Little Master – Sachin Tendulkar – and Nayan Mongia in the same over, then Anil Kumble to bring up his seven-for, before any thoughts of a Hadlee-esque nine-for, or even the full 10, were distinguished when the bottom three batsmen fell to other bowlers.

The December 27, 1998, edition of the Sunday Star Times shows how the fans were loving Simon Doull’s Boxing Day exploits.

A fighting 103 not out from captain Mohammad Azharuddin pushed India’s total to 208, which looked to be competitive when the hosts were seven down at the same score. However, some late-order heroics from Dion Nash (89 not out) and Daniel Vettori (57) saw New Zealand register a 144-run lead.

Tendulkar’s second-innings ton (113) got India to 356 and set the home side 213 to win, which looked a tricky task at 74-5 and with Nathan Astle retired hurt, but Craig McMillan (74no) and Chris Cairns (61) combined in a crucial stand to see it home before tea on the final day.

With the first match in Dunedin washed out and the third match in Hamilton drawn, the win meant New Zealand claimed the series 1-0.

1999 – New Zealand v West Indies, Basin Reserve, Wellington
New Zealand 518-9 dec (M Sinclair 214, N Astle 93, S Fleming 67; R King 4-96, F Rose 3-113) beat West Indies 179 (B Lara 67, A Griffith 67; C Cairns 5-44) and 234 (B Lara 75; D Nash 4-38) by an innings and 105 runs.

Man of the match: Mathew Sinclair

The Boxing Day test concept was seemingly here to stay, and this time 10,000 punters poured through the gates on the opening day. They were again treated to a memorable performance from one of the home side’s players.

After an injury to opener Matt Horne in the first test win in Hamilton, Craig Spearman moved up to open with Gary Stead and one Mathew Sinclair came in at No 3 for a test debut.

And the 24-year-old, who was banging on the door by averaging above 45 at first-class level, delivered big time, with a stunning double century.

When his first scoring shot was a French cut for four, Sinclair thought it might just be his day. And so it proved, as he dined out on the Windies’ short-pitched attack to become the fifth New Zealander to score a hundred on test debut. His unbeaten 123 left his side in command at 263-3 at stumps on day one after being sent in.

Black Caps captain Stephen Fleming embraces Mathew Sinclair following his Boxing Day hundred at the Basin Reserve.
Then came day two and more magic from the swashbuckling right-hander, who continued to flay the tourists' attack in a huge 189-run stand with Nathan Astle (93).

Hooking Courtney Walsh (0-112 off 41 overs for the great quick) for four brought up the double hundred for the man known as ‘Skippy’.

In the end, he finished with 214 (off 447 balls, in 534 minutes, with 22 fours), which at the time was the second-equal highest score by a test debutant, and is still third-equal best.

New Zealand’s 518-9 declared proved far too many for the Windies, as despite the efforts of the great Brian Lara (67 and 75), a Chris Cairns five-for then Dion Nash four-for skittled them for 179 and 234 to seal victory with a day to spare, and claim the two-test series 2-0.

2000 – New Zealand v Zimbabwe, Basin Reserve, Wellington
New Zealand 487-7 dec (C McMillan 142, N Astle 141, M Richardson 75, A Parore 50no; B Strang 3-116) and 153-4 dec (S Fleming 55, N Astle 51no) drew with Zimbabwe 340-6 dec (G Rennie 93, A Flower 79, T Madondo 74no; C Martin 5-71) and 60-2.

Man of the match: Craig McMillan

After two momentous occasions in the first two years of the fixture, the third was an unfortunate bore draw in the Black Caps’ one-off encounter with Zimbabwe.

More than 7000 came through the gates but, thanks to a grey, lifeless deck, they were ‘treated’ to a first day where New Zealand crawled through at just over two runs an over to 190-4 at stumps from their 90 overs.

Groundsman Trevor Jackson seemed to overcook his Boxing Day recipe, and knew in the leadup he was in trouble with not enough grass cover and moisture in the pitch, which he kept covered in the two days before the match.

Thanks to centuries from Craig McMillan (142) and Nathan Astle (141), who shared in a massive 222-run fifth-wicket partnership, the hosts posted a healthy 487-7 declared, though that was early on the third day.

In reply, Zimbabwe then trudged along without much worry, either, with Gavin Rennie’s 93 off 323 balls anchoring an innings where Kiwi spinners Paul Wiseman (54 overs) and Brooke Walker (22 overs) were made to toil.

The tourists declared at 340-6 early on the final day, but the hosts took 40 overs to make their 153-4 declared, which set Zimbabwe 301 from a minimum of 43 overs.

In the end, it was far too unrealistic, and after 30 overs, with the visitors 60-2, the game was called off early, leaving everyone rather frustrated.

2001 – New Zealand v Bangladesh, Basin Reserve, Wellington
Bangladesh 132 (C Cairns 3-24) and 135 (S Bond 4-54) lost to New Zealand 341-6 dec (M Richardson 83, C McMillan 70, S Fleming 61; M Islam 3-99) by an innings and 74 runs.

Man of the match: Craig McMillan

Boxing Day in 2001 saw New Zealand close catchers surround the woeful Bangladesh batsmen.

The fourth year of the fixture saw the opening-day crowd drop down to 6000, thanks mainly to the not-so-attractive proposition of a touring Bangladesh side who had only gained test status 18 months prior.

The tourists hadn’t offered much in the way of resistance in the first test of the two-match series in Hamilton, slumping to an innings defeat despite the first two days being washed out.

And they didn’t fare much better in the capital. Sent in, Bangladesh were rolled for 132 in 64 overs on a good batting strip, as five of the batsmen got in but fell for between 10 and 18 runs. In reply, the Black Caps cruised to 72-0 at stumps.

While day two was rained out, the Black Caps charged to 341-6 declared on day three, with first-test centurions Mark Richardson and Craig McMillan again leading the charge – the former with 83 off 167 balls and the latter with 70 off 71.

Shane Bond then ripped the top off the Tigers' order to send them to stumps at 67-5, and New Zealand duly wrapped things up on the first session of day four, bundling the Bangladeshis out for 135 to sweep the series 2-0.

2003 – New Zealand v Pakistan, Basin Reserve, Wellington
New Zealand 366 (J Oram 97, M Richardson 82; S Akhtar 5-48, S Ahmed 3-87) and 103 (S Akhtar 6-30) lost to Pakistan 196 (M Yousuf 60; I Butler 6-46) and 277-3 (M Yousuf 88no, I ul-Haq 72no, Y Hameed 59) by 7 wickets.

Man of the match: Shoaib Akhtar

Shoaib Akhtar terrorised the New Zealand batting lineup with an 11-wicket haul in the 2003 Boxing Day test.
The Boxing Day test went on a one-year hiatus in 2002 due to preparations for the 2003 World Cup, which saw an ODI against India played at Auckland’s Eden Park instead.

It returned to the calendar a year later, for what proved to be the Black Caps’ first home loss in the fixture, thanks to a dramatic second-innings collapse that saw Pakistan speedster Shoaib Akhtar claim a remarkable 11-wicket match haul.

Having missed the first-test draw in Hamilton with hamstring and calf strains, Akhtar somewhat ominously reduced the Black Caps to 1-2 on the first morning, when he snared both Lou Vincent and Stephen Fleming in his second over after the hosts had opted to bat in front of 6000 windswept souls.

Richard Jones didn’t last long in what was to be his only test, though Mark Richardson hung in for a typically gutsy 82 off 286 balls, then Jacob Oram top-scored with 97 to propel the hosts to a healthy 366 despite Akhtar’s 5-48.

That total looked even better when Ian Butler ripped through the Pakistan lower order, claiming 6-46 as the visitors collapsed on day three from 168-4 to 196 all out, losing their last four wickets for just two runs.

However, while New Zealand got to 75-3 at stumps for a lead of 245, a big sense of complacency surely crept into the ranks, as in the first 17 overs on day four they crumbled in the face of Akhtar and company.

The Rawalpindi Express, as Akhtar was known, finished with a stunning 6-30 as the home side lost an unbelievable 6-8 to be bundled out for just 103.

That left Pakistan right back in it, chasing 274 with more than five sessions up their sleeves.

Captain Stephen Fleming leads the Black Caps off following their miserable defeat to Pakistan which brought an end to their record unbeaten run.

And thanks to half centuries from Yasir Hameed (59), Mohammad Yousuf (88no) and captain Inzamam-ul-Haq (72no), the tourists cruised to their target, three down, just a few overs into the final day, to seal a 1-0 series victory.

Losing the game ended a nine-test unbeaten run for the Black Caps, which to this day remains their equal-longest streak without defeat.

THE BIG BREAK

And that sour note for New Zealand fans was made to stick around for more than a decade, as the Boxing Day test was swiftly scrubbed from the calendar in favour of white-ball matches on, and around, the public holiday.

New Zealand Cricket chief executive Martin Snedden said that allowed more people on holiday to be able to see the national team play, and denied the decision was largely revenue-driven, though also noted that while first-day crowds for the tests had been healthy, they had then dropped right off.

So instead, over the next 10 years the Black Caps played two ODIs and four T20Is at Auckland’s Eden Park, a T20I in Port Elizabeth on their tour to South Africa in 2012, while in 2005, 2009 and 2011 they were in a period of inactivity around December 26.

2014 – New Zealand v Sri Lanka, Hagley Oval, Christchurch
New Zealand 441 (B McCullum 195, J Neesham 85, K Williamson 54; A Mathews 3-39, S Lakmal 3-90) and 107-2 beat Sri Lanka 138 (A Mathews 50; T Boult 3-25, N Wagner 3-60) and 407 (D Karunaratne 152, A Mathews 66; T Southee 4-91, T Boult 4-100) by 8 wickets.

Man of the match: Brendon McCullum

And then came the return of the Boxing Day test in 2014.

This, though, chiefly came about in order to give the Black Caps an uninterrupted run of ODIs leading into the 2015 World Cup.

New Zealand Cricket also decided to move the fixture away from Wellington and opted for Christchurch, which had been starved of international cricket since the 2011 earthquake.

So, it made for a momentous occasion for Hagley Oval, hosting its first-ever test. And the day couldn’t have turned into a better celebration for the near-8000 fans, thanks to the fireworks of hometown Black Caps skipper Brendon McCullum.

After more than three years with no international cricket, Christchurch fans got the Boxing Day test come to Hagley Oval in 2014.
After being sent in, New Zealand were 88-3 early in the second session. Enter captain courageous.

At his typically belligerent best, McCullum put the Sri Lankan bowlers to the sword in a stunning 195, which featured 18 fours and a whopping 11 sixes.

It was the continuation of a magnificent 2014 for the skip, whose previous 50-plus scores that year were turned into a triple century and two double centuries, and who during this knock became the first Kiwi to score 1000 runs in a calendar year.

McCullum’s century came off just 74 balls, which at the time was the quickest by a New Zealander, beating his own record from just a month earlier (the following season he would go on to make the still-current world record).

He then fell agonisingly short of what would have been the fastest-ever test double century in history, holing out to long-off on his 134th delivery, which still leaves Nathan Astle’s 153-ball effort against England in Christchurch in 2002 at the top of the charts.

McCullum’s sizzling display steered New Zealand to 441 in just 85.5 overs, and the shellshocked Sri Lankans duly folded in their turn at bat, skittled for more than 50 less than McCullum’s own total – 138 all out in only 42.4 overs.

Opener Dimuth Karunaratne’s 152 ensured they put up much more fight in the follow on, posting 407, but it still left the Black Caps needing just 105, and they cruised to an eight-wicket win just after tea on day four in the first test of a series they would go on to claim 2-0.

2018 – New Zealand v Sri Lanka, Hagley Oval, Christchurch
New Zealand 178 (T Southee 68; S Lakmal 5-54, L Kumara 3-49) and 585-4 dec (T Latham 176, H Nicholls 162, J Raval 74, C de Grandhomme 71no) beat Sri Lanka 104 (T Boult 6-30, T Southee 3-35) and 236 (K Mendis 67, D Chandimal 56; N Wagner 4-48, T Boult 3-77) by 423 runs.

Man of the match: Tim Southee

Christchurch would remain the Boxing Day destination for the Black Caps, though it was ODIs which took place at Hagley Oval from 2015-2017, before NZC felt their schedule meant there was a good opportunity to restore the test in 2018.

Four years on from their drubbing in the corresponding fixture at the same venue, there would have been some bad memories to overcome for the Sri Lankans, though with Brendon McCullum in retirement they may well have breathed a bit easier.

After a draw in the first test in the capital, it was winner take all in Christchurch, and the tourists started right on top in front of the 8000-capacity crowd, winning the toss and knocking New Zealand over for 178, which could have been a lot worse had it not been for Tim Southee’s hard-hit cameo of 68.

Trent Boult was in stunning form with the ball in New Zealand’s huge Boxing Day test win over Sri Lanka in 2018.
However, the hosts then fought back strongly with the ball, and early on the second morning Sri Lanka spectacularly crumbled from 94-4 to 104 all out, thanks to Trent Boult’s wonder-spell, where he claimed three wickets in one over and two in another, wrapping all of the bottom four on the pads for ducks, to finish with a sublime 6-30.

The Black Caps’ batsmen then went to work, and thanks to big hundreds from Tom Latham (176) – backing up from a double ton in the first test – and Henry Nicholls (162no), they racked up a huge 585-4 declared, to set the tourists an essentially impossible 660 to win in six and a half sessions.

Boult and Southee each struck in their first over to have Sri Lanka two down at stumps, and while the visitors negotiated the fourth day, the hosts needed all of 14 balls on the final day to claim the final three wickets to secure a massive 423-run win, along with a series victory.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...ry-of-boxing-day-cricket-tests-in-new-zealand
 
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Really excited about this but not sure what i will watch with more interest. This test or another potential thrashing for the "greatest asian team ever". :yahoo
 
In this first test without Babar and no potentially match winner bowlers for New Zealand conditions I be happy if we are not thrashed by an inning.
 
I reckon this team would have given NZ a run for their money:

1. Shan Masood
2. Sami Aslam (yes, I know!)
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Mohammad Nawaz
6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
7. Shadab Khan (if fit)
8. Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas or Naseem Shah
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi

Basically I would only have picked 4 of Misbah’s 11.
 
I reckon this team would have given NZ a run for their money:

1. Shan Masood
2. Sami Aslam (yes, I know!)
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Mohammad Nawaz
6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
7. Shadab Khan (if fit)
8. Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas or Naseem Shah
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi

Basically I would only have picked 4 of Misbah’s 11.

Mohammad nawaz at no. 5??
 
Mohammad nawaz at no. 5??

His batting now is what Fawad Alam’s was until a couple of years ago.

The problem is that Haider Ali and Abdullah Shafique are too raw and Azhar, Abid, Haris and Fawad are long past their best.

And that’s nothing - I’d be seriously considering Nasir Nawaz in the top six too!
 
Rizwan speaking to PCB:

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Today we practiced for 4 hours

Our batsmen and bowlers are all in good rhythm

We are very encouraged by the victory of Shaheens vs NZ 'A'

Compared to our T20I squad, our Test squad is more experienced

Batsmen of the quality of Shan Masood, Azhar Ali, Fawad Alam and Haris Sohail are all available

In Test bowlers we have the likes of Mohammad Abbas, Yasir Shah and Shaheen Shah Afridi

We will miss the absence of Babar Azam

Despite injury, Babar's dedication to training is worthy of praise

Babar Azam is still sharing his experience with the side

The series against NZ will be very competitive and we will work hard but results are in the hands of Allah (swt)

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I reckon this team would have given NZ a run for their money:

1. Shan Masood
2. Sami Aslam (yes, I know!)
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Mohammad Nawaz
6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
7. Shadab Khan (if fit)
8. Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas or Naseem Shah
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi

Basically I would only have picked 4 of Misbah’s 11.

With all due respect, this team would have capitulated for 36/9 in the first session.
 
With all due respect, this team would have capitulated for 36/9 in the first session.

You have to design a team with a pathway to victory.

On the last tour of NZ, Yasir Shah took 0 Test wickets - at his peak.

I prefer my bowling attack, and their potential contribution with the bat.

I have a problem with the batting, as Misbah has kept failing seniors on and they have blocked the progress of the youngsters.
 
You have to design a team with a pathway to victory.

On the last tour of NZ, Yasir Shah took 0 Test wickets - at his peak.

I prefer my bowling attack, and their potential contribution with the bat.

I have a problem with the batting, as Misbah has kept failing seniors on and they have blocked the progress of the youngsters.

Nawaz is a sitting duck in SENA conditions, whether he’s 20, 25, or 40 years old.

Rizwan is batting too high up, it’s unreasonable to ask him to take on a number 3 position which in NZ takes on a post-opener role. He’s also the best keeper in the world, and much better than Rohail — who if you want playing based on his century, should play as a specialist batsman.

You are right about Yasir Shah. New Zealand has the worst spin bowling average, strike rate, and economy for any country in the world to host Tests in the last decade.

Shadab Khan does not make the team for the same reason Yasir doesn’t — their spin is useless. You’re better off using Saud Shakeel for the spin quota, if he’s already in the team, or have Shan Masood bowl a couple of overs to rest your frontline bowlers.

Your pace attack is good.
 
Nawaz is a sitting duck in SENA conditions, whether he’s 20, 25, or 40 years old.

Rizwan is batting too high up, it’s unreasonable to ask him to take on a number 3 position which in NZ takes on a post-opener role. He’s also the best keeper in the world, and much better than Rohail — who if you want playing based on his century, should play as a specialist batsman.

You are right about Yasir Shah. New Zealand has the worst spin bowling average, strike rate, and economy for any country in the world to host Tests in the last decade.

Shadab Khan does not make the team for the same reason Yasir doesn’t — their spin is useless. You’re better off using Saud Shakeel for the spin quota, if he’s already in the team, or have Shan Masood bowl a couple of overs to rest your frontline bowlers.

Your pace attack is good.

I have seen some bad team suggestions, but [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] has taken the biscuit.
 
You have to design a team with a pathway to victory.

On the last tour of NZ, Yasir Shah took 0 Test wickets - at his peak.

I prefer my bowling attack, and their potential contribution with the bat.

I have a problem with the batting, as Misbah has kept failing seniors on and they have blocked the progress of the youngsters.

Yasir Shah could not get any wickets but Nawaz and Shadab will LOL.
 
Shan Masood
Abid Ali/ Imran Butt
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
Fawad Alam
Faheem Ashraf
Zafar Gohar
Sohail Khan/ Naseem Shah/ Yasir (Depending upon the conditions)
Shaheen Shah
Mohammad Abbas

Hussain Talat could have been an option for no 6,7 (Decent bowling option as well in Nz) while Amad Butt could have been a third seamer but, they are not in the squad.
 
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Shan Masood
Abid Ali/ Imran Butt
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Mohammad Rizwan (WK)
Fawad Alam
Faheem Ashraf
Zafar Gohar
Sohail Khan/ Naseem Shah/ Yasir (Depending upon the conditions)
Shaheen Shah
Mohammad Abbas

Hussain Talat could have been an option for no 6,7 (Decent bowling option as well in Nz) while Amad Butt could have been a third seamer but, they are not in the squad.

No logical reason to play Zafar Gohar and Yasir Shah, one should be good enough.

New Zealand conditions are very deceptive for batsmen, and part of that is because of the skill of the opposition's bowlers. Sometimes, the ball swings a lot whereas other times, it appears to swing but just gets a little shape and seams away.

The point is that if a ball is on off stump and swinging, the only way to stop it is to come forward and defend with soft hands. Anything outside the off-stump, unless swinging back into the stumps, should be left alone. The West Indies could have really challenged New Zealand if they left deliveries they should not have played at, and if they figured out the best way to get runs on these surfaces, which is using the back-foot for any shortish deliveries and width, whereas drives should only be used for full-pitched deliveries. Kane Williamson dominated the West Indies because he had a very good idea of where his off-stump is, and he gets on top of the bounce when playing from the back foot.

Abid Ali is a front-foot player, and he will struggle against the likes of Boult and Southee who will square him up and open the face of the bat. He needs to stay side-on and stop flirting with balls outside the off-stump, he always plays and misses balls which are on 4th and 5th stump which should be left.

I have no problem with playing such deliveries when the ball is old, because it is unlikely to do anything in the air or off the surface, but as an opener, taking that risk for a boundary is too much.

This is why I would push Azhar Ali down at 4 with Imran Butt debuting at 3.

West Indies tried to out-bowl New Zealand, and it didn't work. We have a good bowling line-up, but like West Indies, our batting can be unreliable.

This is why we need as much batting as we can get without compromising the bowling.

I'd go in with:

Shan Masood
Abid Ali
Imran Butt
Azhar Ali
Fawad Alam
Haris Sohail
Mohammad Rizwan
Faheem Ashraf
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Abbas
Naseem Shah

The four-seamer strategy paired with more depth in the batting is what we need in New Zealand, and it is imperative that we go in with these options. Had Amad Butt been in the playing XI, he could have been a valuable addition as well, but the management chose Faheem Ashraf and he needs to deliver.

Amad performed well in the A game, so if Faheem does not make ends meet, we should bring Amad into the XI for the second test.

Overall, I am looking forward to see who steps up on this tour, and if Imran Butt comes good, we might have found a batsman to pair with Babar Azam for the future.
 
No logical reason to play Zafar Gohar and Yasir Shah, one should be good enough.

New Zealand conditions are very deceptive for batsmen, and part of that is because of the skill of the opposition's bowlers. Sometimes, the ball swings a lot whereas other times, it appears to swing but just gets a little shape and seams away.

The point is that if a ball is on off stump and swinging, the only way to stop it is to come forward and defend with soft hands. Anything outside the off-stump, unless swinging back into the stumps, should be left alone. The West Indies could have really challenged New Zealand if they left deliveries they should not have played at, and if they figured out the best way to get runs on these surfaces, which is using the back-foot for any shortish deliveries and width, whereas drives should only be used for full-pitched deliveries. Kane Williamson dominated the West Indies because he had a very good idea of where his off-stump is, and he gets on top of the bounce when playing from the back foot.

Abid Ali is a front-foot player, and he will struggle against the likes of Boult and Southee who will square him up and open the face of the bat. He needs to stay side-on and stop flirting with balls outside the off-stump, he always plays and misses balls which are on 4th and 5th stump which should be left.

I have no problem with playing such deliveries when the ball is old, because it is unlikely to do anything in the air or off the surface, but as an opener, taking that risk for a boundary is too much.

This is why I would push Azhar Ali down at 4 with Imran Butt debuting at 3.

West Indies tried to out-bowl New Zealand, and it didn't work. We have a good bowling line-up, but like West Indies, our batting can be unreliable.

This is why we need as much batting as we can get without compromising the bowling.

I'd go in with:

Shan Masood
Abid Ali
Imran Butt
Azhar Ali
Fawad Alam
Haris Sohail
Mohammad Rizwan
Faheem Ashraf
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Abbas
Naseem Shah

The four-seamer strategy paired with more depth in the batting is what we need in New Zealand, and it is imperative that we go in with these options. Had Amad Butt been in the playing XI, he could have been a valuable addition as well, but the management chose Faheem Ashraf and he needs to deliver.

Amad performed well in the A game, so if Faheem does not make ends meet, we should bring Amad into the XI for the second test.

Overall, I am looking forward to see who steps up on this tour, and if Imran Butt comes good, we might have found a batsman to pair with Babar Azam for the future.

I would definitely go with atleast one spinner as pacers cant bowl that many overs. Ideally a finger spinner. Abur Rehman (SLA) was cruicial for Pak last win in NZ in 2011 and was 2nd highest wicket taker in the series with an average of 26 and really good economy. While Haris and Fawad can bowl a bit but, they are not consistent enough to act as main spinner.

Agree with the rest of the analysis.
 
I would definitely go with atleast one spinner as pacers cant bowl that many overs. Ideally a finger spinner. Abur Rehman (SLA) was cruicial for Pak last win in NZ in 2011 and was 2nd highest wicket taker in the series with an average of 26 and really good economy. While Haris and Fawad can bowl a bit but, they are not consistent enough to act as main spinner.

Agree with the rest of the analysis.

If we fit Zafar Gohar into the team, we'd need to remove one of our actual batsmen, and that creates a huge imbalance of the team, and our tail becomes even longer.

If we think that there is a need of a finger-spinner, then the only option is to take out Faheem, though he's been doing well in these conditions and I would like to see a four-man pace attack.

Alternatively, Faheem could replace Naseem if we want more consistency in the bowling, and then we could slot in Zafar Gohar.

I really want to see Zafar Gohar play, but overseas, it's a bit tricky to fit him in given that our 3 seamers don't bowl a very good amount of overs. Plus, I don't want the management to set on bowling 30 overs of spin a day in SENA.
 
I reckon this team would have given NZ a run for their money:

1. Shan Masood
2. Sami Aslam (yes, I know!)
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Mohammad Nawaz
6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
7. Shadab Khan (if fit)
8. Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas or Naseem Shah
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi

Basically I would only have picked 4 of Misbah’s 11.

Thanks God, that you are not the CS for PCB. I hope you are not threatening India with this Ci to break their record of 36......
 
My 11

Shan Masood
Imran butt
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Fawad Alam
Rizwan
Zafar
Faheem
Shaheen
Abbas
Naseem

Finger spinner Zafar to provide control with tight economical spells and help the pacers attack more,something which Yasir struggles to do. Although highly unlikely Zafar’s gonna play.

I think Imran butt will do well if he plays.

Naseem to feature in 11 for lack of other options
 
I reckon this team would have given NZ a run for their money:

1. Shan Masood
2. Sami Aslam (yes, I know!)
3. Mohammad Rizwan
4. Saud Shakeel
5. Mohammad Nawaz
6. Rohail Nazir (wk)
7. Shadab Khan (if fit)
8. Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Abbas or Naseem Shah
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi

Basically I would only have picked 4 of Misbah’s 11.

I understand your hyperbole with the “talent pool” and you are indeed good at taking naive fans on a ride - therefore I won’t say anything about other selections including Sami (it’s understandable - the fish that gets away always is the biggest one); BUT, with all your cricket knowledge and experience are you really suggesting to take off the gloves from the best Pakistani glovesman in last 20 years, play him as specialist bat at 3 (& Captain as well), for your romanticism of accommodating Ruhail?

I am writing this because I got you in a real tight corner few weeks back exactly on this topic - play Rizwan as specialist bat at 3 and give gloves to Nazir. I wasted few minutes to put counter arguments and you escaped - now you have posted exactly the same here as if .....

This time I hope you’ll explain why and how an inferior batsman and not even comparable WK makes the XI putting extra burden on Rizwan of batting at 3 and leading the side? Keeping is his core strength and he is in PAK team as a WK first - as a Captain, take out his gloves, most of his confidence will evaporate immediately.

The example that you have given many times, I’m using that against you this time - all the batting heroics that Rizwan showed in Australia was against 40+ overs old kookaburra, against which even Yasir has a hundred - what makes you think that Rizwan will be successful against brand new kookaburra (and at 3, he might face a ball before no 2 does!!!) against Boult, Southee?

I hope, this time you’ll answer.
 
No logical reason to play Zafar Gohar and Yasir Shah, one should be good enough.

New Zealand conditions are very deceptive for batsmen, and part of that is because of the skill of the opposition's bowlers. Sometimes, the ball swings a lot whereas other times, it appears to swing but just gets a little shape and seams away.

The point is that if a ball is on off stump and swinging, the only way to stop it is to come forward and defend with soft hands. Anything outside the off-stump, unless swinging back into the stumps, should be left alone. The West Indies could have really challenged New Zealand if they left deliveries they should not have played at, and if they figured out the best way to get runs on these surfaces, which is using the back-foot for any shortish deliveries and width, whereas drives should only be used for full-pitched deliveries. Kane Williamson dominated the West Indies because he had a very good idea of where his off-stump is, and he gets on top of the bounce when playing from the back foot.

Abid Ali is a front-foot player, and he will struggle against the likes of Boult and Southee who will square him up and open the face of the bat. He needs to stay side-on and stop flirting with balls outside the off-stump, he always plays and misses balls which are on 4th and 5th stump which should be left.

I have no problem with playing such deliveries when the ball is old, because it is unlikely to do anything in the air or off the surface, but as an opener, taking that risk for a boundary is too much.

This is why I would push Azhar Ali down at 4 with Imran Butt debuting at 3.

West Indies tried to out-bowl New Zealand, and it didn't work. We have a good bowling line-up, but like West Indies, our batting can be unreliable.

This is why we need as much batting as we can get without compromising the bowling.

I'd go in with:

Shan Masood
Abid Ali
Imran Butt
Azhar Ali
Fawad Alam
Haris Sohail
Mohammad Rizwan
Faheem Ashraf
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Abbas
Naseem Shah

The four-seamer strategy paired with more depth in the batting is what we need in New Zealand, and it is imperative that we go in with these options. Had Amad Butt been in the playing XI, he could have been a valuable addition as well, but the management chose Faheem Ashraf and he needs to deliver.

Amad performed well in the A game, so if Faheem does not make ends meet, we should bring Amad into the XI for the second test.

Overall, I am looking forward to see who steps up on this tour, and if Imran Butt comes good, we might have found a batsman to pair with Babar Azam for the future.


This is also my XI, specialist spinners not needed and Fawad and Haris are enough to fill in for some overs. Pak definitely needs an an extra batsman and Imran Butt is really the only option in the squad though I would've liked Hussain Talat instead. Hopefully if Faheem can carry over some of his white ball form that would be great...
 
I cannot see Pak go into match without Yasir. Imad Butt if he plays will bat at 4 or 5. Haris Sohail may well be announced injured as well. So this would be a very weak Batting line up. Talat H should have been in squad so he could have been selected ahead of Faheem as batting all rounder.
 
My 11

Shan Masood
Imran butt
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Fawad Alam
Rizwan
Zafar
Faheem
Shaheen
Abbas
Naseem

Finger spinner Zafar to provide control with tight economical spells and help the pacers attack more,something which Yasir struggles to do. Although highly unlikely Zafar’s gonna play.

I think Imran butt will do well if he plays.

Naseem to feature in 11 for lack of other options

Agreed, but Zafar is not going to play.

This XI is more realistic:
Abid, Masood, Azhar, Butt, Fawad, Haris, Rizwan*+, Faheem, Shaheen, Abbas, Naseem

Hopefully Imam and Babar can come in for the 2nd match and we can see a top 4 of:
Imam, Masood, Butt, Babar.
 
Agreed, but Zafar is not going to play.

This XI is more realistic:
Abid, Masood, Azhar, Butt, Fawad, Haris, Rizwan*+, Faheem, Shaheen, Abbas, Naseem

Hopefully Imam and Babar can come in for the 2nd match and we can see a top 4 of:
Imam, Masood, Butt, Babar.

id go with the line up you stated predicted
 
Good to see Butt playing, lets hope he takes his chance. It would have been better to play Saud but its a chance for this lad to make his mark.
 
The batting is weak most of the batsmen will struggle to average 40 plus long term openers can be excused in some ways but the middle order is just not great.

The best test middle order batsmen currently in Pakistan are Babar U Akmal and possibly Saud he’s yet to play test cricket the team should’ve been built around them with a few younger batsmen being introduced in the future.
 
Black Caps vs Pakistan: Ross Taylor and Tim Southee nearing big milestones

Two Black Caps are on the verge of bringing up important milestones, but one has more to do than the other when the first test against Pakistan starts on Boxing Day.

Ross Taylor simply has to make it to Bay Oval in Mount Maunganui in one piece to become the most-capped Black Cap in history, with 438 international appearances to his name across all three formats.

As things stand, he is tied with Daniel Vettori, who has held that mantle since he took it off Stephen Fleming in 2011, on 437.

It doesn't get handed down often – and it might very well never be handed down again.

Martin Guptill, now a white-ball specialist, has made 324 appearances over the years, while Kane Williamson will make his 295th on Boxing Day and Tim Southee his 294th, but there's less international cricket played now than there was in the early years of Taylor's career, and it will take a hell of an effort for someone to catch him.

The obvious caveat is that we don't know what the future of the game will look like. Many would never have foreseen Twenty20 becoming what it has and appearances records could fall in flash if the Black Caps of 2050 find themselves playing multiple Five5 matches a day.

“I was really happy to play one or two games for New Zealand,” was what Taylor said when the milestone was raised with him in November.

“I've still got to get there first, but my mentor, Martin Crowe, always used to say records are meant to be broken for the next guy to come beat."

The other Black Cap nearing a milestone is the second-longest serving member of the side, Southee, who finds himself four scalps short of claiming 300 test wickets.

Only Hadlee (431) and Daniel Vettori (361) have got there from New Zealand previously, though Trent Boult (272) will almost certainly join them in time.

Southee began the year watching on from the sidelines in Sydney, where he was rested amid concerns over his workload, a decision he personally described as "disappointing".

He has featured in every test since then, taking 4-49 and 5-61 then 2-38 and 3-36 against India at the end of last summer and claiming player of the series honours, then 4-35 and 1-62 and 5-32 and 2-96 against the West Indies – a total of 26 wickets in four matches.

Even if he goes without a wicket in the Mount, 2020 will be the most productive year of Southee's test career – he’s taken an average of 6.5 wickets per match and 3.25 wickets per innings, marks he hasn’t come close to previously.

Speaking to Stuff on Christmas Eve, the 32-year-old said the long break between matches over the winter due to the Covid-19 pandemic had proved helpful.

“You try to look at the positives and I think it was quite nice to have that forced rest and let the body recover and freshen up, then to do some work over the winter to come back and fire into this season.

“As an international sportsman, you're always looking at ways to get better and you're always looking at ways to improve your game and each year you reflect back.

“It's obviously nice to take wickets, but at times you can still feel pretty good and feel like you're doing a good job, but you may not necessarily have anything in the wickets column.

“It's coming out pretty well at the moment and hopefully that can continue throughout the summer.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...taylor-and-tim-southee-nearing-big-milestones
 
I would definitely go with atleast one spinner as pacers cant bowl that many overs. Ideally a finger spinner. Abur Rehman (SLA) was cruicial for Pak last win in NZ in 2011 and was 2nd highest wicket taker in the series with an average of 26 and really good economy. While Haris and Fawad can bowl a bit but, they are not consistent enough to act as main spinner.

Agree with the rest of the analysis.

I get the point about Abdur Rehman from 2011, but just do not feel we need a dedicated specialist (going by the conditions doled out to IND and WI recently). I would go with the team mentioned by the poster you quoted.

Haris and Fawad can cover that avenue reasonably, assuming both play. Haris gets preference over Fawad in terms of turning to as a part-time bowler but both should be able to chip in.

If it is about helping with the bowling overs quota aspect, then I feel if it really comes down to it Shan and Azhar can chip in too. Shan’s pace on the slow seaming wickets of NZD can be a reasonable option to give rest to our primary bowlers if he can bowl areas. Azhar’s case is weaker but he is the absolute last resort.

From the quota and workload sharing element we can have:

- Haris + Fawad: 10-15 overs
- Shan + Azhar: 5-10 overs

On the low end that takes away 15 overs from the total that our 4 pacers will need to bowl and on the high end, it takes away 25 overs. Think that’s a reasonable range to play with.
 
The pitch at the Mount can be a little green on the first morning but it then turns into a wicket in which the pace bowlers have to bowl marathon spells in the final three innings.

You need a minimum of 4 quick bowlers, each fit enough to bowl 20 overs per day.

I think Misbah will select Sohail Khan for his batting, but the bigger worry is actually his fitness to bowl long spells.
 
The pitch at the Mount can be a little green on the first morning but it then turns into a wicket in which the pace bowlers have to bowl marathon spells in the final three innings.

You need a minimum of 4 quick bowlers, each fit enough to bowl 20 overs per day.

I think Misbah will select Sohail Khan for his batting, but the bigger worry is actually his fitness to bowl long spells.

Would have thought Faheem’s ability with the bat would trump that of Sohail, in Misbah’s book? Plus fitness and form help him getting selected.

Or do you mean Sohail plays instead of Naseem?
 
Pictures (courtesy of the PCB) of Pakistan squad practicing ahead of the 1st Test against New Zealand.

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PCB Video of practice:

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Azhar Ali on the upcoming Test match:

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"We are looking forward to the upcoming Test series - it was good to play the 4-day game although the time for preparation for the Test series has been short"

"The tour of New Zealand is always very tough so will do our best to adjust to these conditions, and to gel as a team as well"

"I will try my best, as a senior player, to perform as a batsman on this tour as the team will depend on me; I will also do what I can to help (advise) the captain and bowlers"

"Conditions for visiting Asian sides to New Zealand have always been very challenging, but once you are set as a batsman then there are ample opportunities to play big innings; So the idea will be that whichver player gets set-in, he goes on to make a big score"

"Our bowlers have a big role to play as conditions suit pace bowling; This could be helpful for us if the pitches are made to favour pacers as its usually done here for games against Asian sides"
 
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KARACHI: Skipper Mohammad Rizwan has pledged that Pakistan will not get cowed down during their two-match Test series against New Zealand, while expressing optimism that the expected green-top wouldn’t put the tourists in a state of anxiety despite the forced absence of batting ace Babar Azam who is nursing an injured thumb.

The doughty wicketkeeper-batsman, who will become the country’s 33rd Test captain — and the sixth designated wicket-keeper after Imtiaz Ahmed, Wasim Bari, Rashid Latif, Moin Khan and Sarfaraz Ahmed to do the honour for Pakistan — when he leads out the side in the first Test at the Bay Oval in Mount Maunganui on Saturday, told reporters during a virtual media conference on Thursday that he relishes challenges coming his way by leading from the front.

“There’s nothing better than being competitive in any sport we all play and our four-hour practice session at the Bay Oval today [Thursday] Alhamdulillah went very well and the players trained with spirit and intensity required for the Test match,” Rizwan said. “The Test team was joined by members of Pakistan Shaheens side, which was a blessing in disguise and all of us went through the drills [of batting, bowling and fielding]. The players have gelled very quickly, which is good for the team harmony and the overall camaraderie.”

Rizwan conceded the fact that the untimely injury to Babar, who fractured his right thumb during practice in Queenstown on Dec 13 and was due to lead Pakistan for the first time in a Test match, has certainly deprived Pakistan of a world-class batsman.

“Obviously, losing Babar for the entire T20 series and now the first Test is a massive blow for the team. There is no doubt about his status as one of the best batsmen in world of cricket. But we are hopeful that whoever replaces him in the playing eleven on Saturday will put his hands up because representing the country is one chance he must make full use of,” Rizwan hoped. “It’s never easy to find replacement at such a short notice for a player of Babar’s stature. And despite being injured, Babar is turning up at our practice sessions and encouraging the players and telling them not to get disheartened which surely shows how serious he is about for the welfare of our team. His words mean a lot for all of us.,” observed Rizwan.

He downplayed the impression of Pakistan — who have also been depleted by the unavailability of Shadab Khan (who led the side during the T20 series) and opener Imam-ul-Haq through injuries for the opening Test — feeling the heat against a New Zealand Test side which is formidable in their own backyard with an impressive track record.

In the only Test played in Mount Maunganui, New Zealand hammered England in November 2019 by an innings and 65 runs on the back of sterling efforts from left-arm fast bowler Neil Wagner (eight wickets in Test) and wicket-keeper B.J. Watling’s career-best knock of 205.

“We don’t need to read too much really what they [New Zealand] have in store for Pakistan. We had a good look at the pitch today and found the strip fully covered at the top. The lush exterior is a clear indication that it would be a green-top Test match pitch,” Rizwan remarked in a confident tone. “Our job is to go out and perform as well as we are capable of and if New Zealand have the luxury of fielding a world-class seam-bowling attack like [Trent] Boult, [Tim] Southee and Wagner, then our bowlers certainly have the capacity and firepower to create a lot of problems for their batsmen.

“Why should we fear New Zealand bowlers because our batsmen, too, have been playing on green-tinged pitches back home. You get similar sort of pitches that we have seen here [in New Zealand] at places like Abbottabad, Peshawar, Rawalpindi and Sialkot.

“I promise our fans that we will be going all out, and will not get under pressure by playing aggressive cricket to put New Zealand on the back foot. Insha’Allah that would be our prime objective and that’s how I play cricket.”

The 28-year-old Rizwan — who will be appearing in just his 10th Test after debuting against New Zealand at Hamilton in November 2016 when the then captain and current head coach Misbah-ul-Haq was slapped with a one-match suspension and fined for a slow over-rate offence — observed the pressure on him had considerably eased after he masterminded Pakistan to victory in Tuesday’s final Twenty20 International in Napier with a career-best 89 at McLean Park.

“It’s always nice to make a winning contribution for Pakistan. I felt in good nick throughout that [T20] series. It was just that our plans were not executed in the way we wanted. But having said that, Alhamdulillah I would say the victory in the last T20 has definitely given us a big boost for the Test series,” he asserted. “Personally, I am feeling a lot more confident now because it is a great honour to be asked to captain your country in a Test match.

“I’m also fortunate to observe how Sarfaraz [Ahmed] went about his job as Pakistan captain. He’s has always been supportive to me and is ever willing to boost me up. Personally I would consider myself extremely lucky to get the opportunity as an understudy [to Sarfaraz] when he was well established in the Pakistan side. I’ll fully acknowledge Sarfaraz’s immense services for the country. And that I learnt a lot and grew up as a player by sharing the dressing room with him. No doubt, he has led Pakistan with distinction and I’ll always cherish his company.”

https://www.dawn.com/news/1597646/upbeat-rizwan-vows-pakistan-will-compete-hard-in-nz-tests
 
Win the toss and bat 1st and aim to score 300. NZ will get over 300 if they bat 1st and then its game over.
 
We are getting thrashed inside three days here. NZ has a top-tier bowling, possibly the kind these boys haven't faced in a long time. They made a mockery of India's batting line-up last year.
 
Good press conference by Rizwan, and positive outlook. Nice of him to mention Sarfraz contribution and support. I do not expect Pakistan to win but hope for a good fight although I know its a young team that lost its captain and the only great batsman it had.
 
My Team for the first test

1. Shan Massod
2. Abid Ali
3. Azhar Ali
4. Haris Sohail
5. Fawad Alam
6. M Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Yasir Shah
9. M Abbas
10. Shaheen Shah
11. Nasim Shah
 
That has a big tail their bowlers will eat us alive. I am sure we will play 6 batters plus rizwan
 
My Team for the first test

1. Shan Massod
2. Abid Ali
3. Azhar Ali
4. Haris Sohail
5. Fawad Alam
6. M Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Yasir Shah
9. M Abbas
10. Shaheen Shah
11. Nasim Shah

This is the team most likely they will play if Haris is fit. I would have replaced Yasir with Imad Butt
 
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We are getting thrashed inside three days here. NZ has a top-tier bowling, possibly the kind these boys haven't faced in a long time. They made a mockery of India's batting line-up last year.

In n.z Condtions*.

In n.z Condtions only. Let's be honest.
 
Win the toss and bat 1st and aim to score 300. NZ will get over 300 if they bat 1st and then its game over.

That’s the spirit, gotta have a mindset that even if we don’t have Babar we can make runs from other contributors. I mean look when Kane went for a rest in the WI game and H. Nicholls stepped up along with Wagner who played some fearless shots.
 
Awful lineup, the tail starts at 7 with Faheem. Tours in places like New Zealand and England would've been ideal for a batting AR who bowls seam like Aamer Yamin.

He could've easily slotted in at 7, allowing you to play both four seamers and a specialist spinner. Instead we've a cowlasher who shouldn't bat higher than 9 in any format.
 
Awful lineup, the tail starts at 7 with Faheem. Tours in places like New Zealand and England would've been ideal for a batting AR who bowls seam like Aamer Yamin.

He could've easily slotted in at 7, allowing you to play both four seamers and a specialist spinner. Instead we've a cowlasher who shouldn't bat higher than 9 in any format.

Has the team been announced?
 
Pick just 5 front line batters plus fahim at 7 and yasir shah in team aswell is just stupidity at its best.
 
shan
abid
azhar
haris
fawad
rizwan
amad
yasir
abbas
shaheen
naseem

These are the best available we have.

We will be rolled over by NZ but still we have got to try.
 
shan
abid
azhar
haris
fawad
rizwan
amad
yasir
abbas
shaheen
naseem

These are the best available we have.

We will be rolled over by NZ but still we have got to try.

Ammad Butt is not part of the Squad, unfortunately. The Management is clueless.
 
Ammad Butt is not part of the Squad, unfortunately. The Management is clueless.

I would've trialed Ammad ahead of Faheem but if Ammad becomes one of those batsman that can score a quick fire 20-30 runs then he'll have done his job. The Shaheen game had some good names but it wasn't exactly extra ordinary.
 
Will the match be broadcast in India? The T20 series wasn't.

I'm gonna keep an eye out on the NZC YouTube channel as the WI test series was shown on their channel. Don't Indians get to watch free on ESPN website?
 
shan
abid
azhar
haris
fawad
rizwan
amad
yasir
abbas
shaheen
naseem

These are the best available we have.

We will be rolled over by NZ but still we have got to try.

it maybe the best we have but is it best according to the conditions ?
 
looks like they will go with yasir which is a poor decision wont offer much with the bat and the ball
 
definitely we need to play 6 batters pluss rizwan and 4 fast bowlers no need to play Yasir

Unfortunately the spare batsman left is Imran Butt who is not technically equipped for these conditions. Why Hussain Talat wasn't retained in Test squad given his QEA form is beyond me. Could've slotted in at 6.
 
looks like they will go with yasir which is a poor decision wont offer much with the bat and the ball

Just don't know what to do, if Pakistan perhaps could bundle them out by bowling first then i reckon day 2 and 3 will be the optimum days to bat i.e. when the surface a little more used. If we bat first then play out that new ball, doesn't matter if your SR is in the 20s it becomes easier, push their bowlers by making them bowl and then punish the part timers that come on.
 
Babar's presence would have really lifted the team but alas... Still supporting the boys all out.. Go and get them! Nothing to worry and this is a scenario where boys can really prove their worth.
 
Unfortunately the spare batsman left is Imran Butt who is not technically equipped for these conditions. Why Hussain Talat wasn't retained in Test squad given his QEA form is beyond me. Could've slotted in at 6.

Hes more technical equipped that abid and on par with the rest.he should be in the team at 4 even thou hes an opener.if the game doesnt go til day 4 what use will he be ?
 
Just don't know what to do, if Pakistan perhaps could bundle them out by bowling first then i reckon day 2 and 3 will be the optimum days to bat i.e. when the surface a little more used. If we bat first then play out that new ball, doesn't matter if your SR is in the 20s it becomes easier, push their bowlers by making them bowl and then punish the part timers that come on.

i definitely dont want to see pakistan bat first .they should bowl first and bundle them out for 200ish.i do not expect a high scoring game and the game won't go into day 5 hence why yasir will be inaffective
 
Babar's presence would have really lifted the team but alas... Still supporting the boys all out.. Go and get them! Nothing to worry and this is a scenario where boys can really prove their worth.

This is exactly the positive mindset you should go in with, Pakistan players should be able to scoff and say so what if Babar isn't here i can pick up the slack. We are not a one man show!!!

Go beat them to oblivion Pakistan! This is the real test not the t20s.
 
i definitely dont want to see pakistan bat first .they should bowl first and bundle them out for 200ish.i do not expect a high scoring game and the game won't go into day 5 hence why yasir will be inaffective

The last time a game was played was against England they say and whoever got set went on to make a big score, it's a matter of patience. Play yourself in and look to get even a 50 or 70-odd score and we are in with a chance.
 
The last time a game was played was against England they say and whoever got set went on to make a big score, it's a matter of patience. Play yourself in and look to get even a 50 or 70-odd score and we are in with a chance.

So you think batting first would be a better opposition
 
Agreed, but Zafar is not going to play.

This XI is more realistic:
Abid, Masood, Azhar, Butt, Fawad, Haris, Rizwan*+, Faheem, Shaheen, Abbas, Naseem

Hopefully Imam and Babar can come in for the 2nd match and we can see a top 4 of:
Imam, Masood, Butt, Babar.

Imam is not a real need in the team unless we play him to cushion the middle order by having an extra opener at 3.

If Abid and Shan do well in the first test, then we should keep that combination and fit Babar in at 4 and see what else we can change.

Imran Butt should play and I hope he plays in the middle order because Azhar Ali will take the no.3 spot.
 
Imam is not a real need in the team unless we play him to cushion the middle order by having an extra opener at 3.

If Abid and Shan do well in the first test, then we should keep that combination and fit Babar in at 4 and see what else we can change.

Imran Butt should play and I hope he plays in the middle order because Azhar Ali will take the no.3 spot.

I don't understand why does Imam deserve a go again? It's not as if he was a massive loss, he didn't perform and he's not come good at all.
 
I don't understand why does Imam deserve a go again? It's not as if he was a massive loss, he didn't perform and he's not come good at all.

Yes that's what I was trying to mention.

His FC class record doesn't deserve a selection in the test squad, and we'd be better off investing in another opener like Imran Butt or a middle order batsman like Saud Shakeel.

If the management bring Imam back into the team, they will be forced to back him for at least the next 2-3 series, which can disrupt planning and preparation before the 2021 World Test Championship.
 
Hes more technical equipped that abid and on par with the rest.he should be in the team at 4 even thou hes an opener.if the game doesnt go til day 4 what use will he be ?

If you look at Imran Butt's record, he has never averaged above 40 in a FC season except 19/20 on dead flat pitches where everyone was scoring for fun. Abid must prove himself outside Asia but his FC record is miles better than Butt's.

He was totally unconvincing vs NZ A too.
 
My XI for this test with this squad will be :
Shan Masood
Abid Ali
Azhar Ali
Haris Sohail
Fawad Alam
Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
Faheem Ashraf
Sohail Khan
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Abbas
Naseem Shah

12th man : Misbah ul Haq
 
Yes that's what I was trying to mention.

His FC class record doesn't deserve a selection in the test squad, and we'd be better off investing in another opener like Imran Butt or a middle order batsman like Saud Shakeel.

If the management bring Imam back into the team, they will be forced to back him for at least the next 2-3 series, which can disrupt planning and preparation before the 2021 World Test Championship.

Yep Saud is my no.4 and inshAllah Abid comes good otherwise his position is under threat from someone like Imran.
 
Rizwan gave me impression of one with strong nerves and absorbs the pressure well, hope he does well in this test. Don't know what level of education he got, probably not much, but that's OK.
 
If you look at Imran Butt's record, he has never averaged above 40 in a FC season except 19/20 on dead flat pitches where everyone was scoring for fun. Abid must prove himself outside Asia but his FC record is miles better than Butt's.

He was totally unconvincing vs NZ A too.

Imran was ok from what i saw in that game, some confident shots in the 27 runs he scored.
 
it maybe the best we have but is it best according to the conditions ?

One spinner is necessary for bowling long spells if we dont manage to get wickets , pakistan lack experience as well and yasir shah is only bowler with 40 plus test matches.
 
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