New Zealand v Pakistan | 2nd Test | Hamilton | Nov 25-29, 2016 | Day 5

[Aman]

Not Williamson fan, but why do you hate him so much?

I don't hate him in particular, I simply hate players who are super overrrated.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Look to get around 120 more in the next session.

 

[Junaids]

can someone fill me in on how Shan Masood has been doing in domestics since his last Test?

One 50 and one 100 in QEA while Salman Butt has twice as many of both.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

If we have wickets in hand and all the overs are bowl 160 in 30 overs is not that difficult.

It's not impossible but a huge risk leaving it till the end in these conditions against Wagner, Southee who will bowl short then.

I personally wouldn't have left it till the end would have been more proactive after 1,5 hours or let's say after 25 overs.

 

[Saeed]

No way are we chasing 169 in the last session. Need 150-170 in the second session to stand a chance.

It would be great if they could acore more but 130 at the least is must. If we have wickets in last session we should be able to get 169 easily.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

If we have wickets in hand and all the overs are bowl 160 in 30 overs is not that difficult.

It's not impossible but a huge risk leaving it till the end in these conditions against Wagner, Southee who will bowl short then.

I personally wouldn't have left it till the end would have been more proactive after 1,5 hours or let's say after 25 overs.

 

[hur rizvi]

Babar,sarfraz and Rizwan can bat aggressively
And there is an option to shut up the shop if they want through younus, shafiq and one of these two

 

[Aman]

lol true. Love ya mate, but you're too pessimistic. [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]

Nah, if you had seen us play against Aus, SL, SA and India, you'd know why I have zero faith in this side.

The fact Pakistan are one down against this side is a huge embarrassment for Pakistan.

We are rightfully 7th in the rankings, and could even be surpassed by Bangladesh and WI.

Those two sides have far better young talent than us.

 

[Zeshan547]

Good job done, even though we are atleast 25 runs short where we should have been, but it can still be done, now target for next two sessions must be, score 120 in post lunch session of 30 overs even if lose two wickets, specially that both these slow scoring openers, it won't be a big deal but to have any chance of win we have to be around 200/2 or 3 down max, can't leave 200 runs for last session no matter how many wickets you have and we don't even need constant bounderies to achieve run rate of 4, it is doable on this pitch with tiring bowlers and old ball. And this will leave 170 runs in 32 overs, under 6 runs per over, with 7 or 8 wickets in hand then we can go all out for win. And if we lose 3 wickets in first 12 overs post tea we can still draw it be playing out 20 odd over, so post lunch session will make it very clear where this match is heading.

 

[waleed88]

Wasn't that against the Lankans against mainly spinners? We a have NZ side here on a decent sporting track.

It will take some hitting against Wagner, Southee etc. The reason I said we will need a crazy Sarfraz session or something from Sohail. Rizwan isn't bad either but these are pretty good bowlers we have to cope with.

Hope Mickey has a plan here.

Basically it wsas only Rangana Herath, besides that it was Lakmal and a couple of more bowlers... however conditions were similar and how clueless they were when the ball wasn't swinging

 

[itsme]

I don't hate him in particular, I simply hate players who are super overrrated.

He isn't overatted as a bat but yeah he is a poor captain,gives mathews competition.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

200 in 30 overs is too much. Pakistan needs to score runs in second session to keep it within range.

That's the thing. Except for Sarfraz, Babar Pak team has serious issues rotating the strike which will result into slogging and thus losing wickets.

Pak has taken a massive risk by tuk tuking the last 20 overs of the first session when Azhar and Sami were set and NZ pacers tired.

 

[waleed88]

The way pitch played yesterday and the rate NZ scored at yesterday convinced me it was a paradise to bat on..

 

[Junaids]

I don't hate him in particular, I simply hate players who are super overrrated.

Williamson is like Amla and Azhar and Smith: too gentle a personality to lead.

Neil Wagner is the only guy forceful enough to lead this Black Caps Test team.

 

[Aman]

He isn't overatted as a bat but yeah he is a poor captain,gives mathews competition.

Check his record against decent sides. He's a flop against good teams, if Kohli had his record, he would have been eaten alive. Honestly, I don't even consider him to be in the top 5 batsmen in the world today. He is no longer world class.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Basically it wsas only Rangana Herath, besides that it was Lakmal and a couple of more bowlers... however conditions were similar and how clueless they were when the ball wasn't swinging

Let's pray they do it again and we have Babar, Safraz scoring some quick runs. But it remains a risk to leave everything on the middle order against bowlers like Southee, Wagner.

 

[Aman]

Williamson is like Amla and Azhar and Smith: too gentle a personality to lead.

Neil Wagner is the only guy forceful enough to lead this Black Caps Test team.

In hindsight, it would have been great if McCullum stuck around another 4-5 years till we had a real replacement for him.

I would take McCullum back in a heartbeat, especially in place of the passenger, Henry...

 

[waleed88]

Let's pray they do it again and we have Babar, Safraz scoring some quick runs. But it remains a risk to leave everything on the middle order against bowlers like Southee, Wagner.

Wagner with a supporting pitch is a threat, Wagner bowling 120 clicks with a flat track isn't.. I think you need to have pace to worry bowlers with short pitch bowling in unsupportive wickets

 

[itsme]

It's not impossible but a huge risk leaving it till the end in these conditions against Wagner, Southee who will bowl short then.

I personally wouldn't have left it till the end would have been more proactive after 1,5 hours or let's say after 25 overs.

Southee and wagner/henry will surely start the session after the deinks break pak can accelerate.
Even their main pacers are not that good and nz/williamson took pressure quickly,he is already giving easy singles.But 369 is a huge target,one two wicket and everything change.

 

[Saeed]

I think they should bring Sohail Khan at 3 to hit some quick runs. Push Younis down as he will waste balls. If we collapse Younis can tuk tuk to draw.

 

[BabarAkmal_Fan]

Next 10 over add 40 runs please.

Then we are chasing 253 in 50 overs. Babar, Sarfraz, and Rizwan can chase that if they play like it's a one day. Amir and Sohail can smack a few at the end.

 

[Aman]

Wagner with a supporting pitch is a threat, Wagner bowling 120 clicks with a flat track isn't.. I think you need to have pace to worry bowlers with short pitch bowling in unsupportive wickets

If you fused Wagner and Wahab, you would end up with a poor man's Johnson.

 

[itsme]

The way pitch played yesterday and the rate NZ scored at yesterday convinced me it was a paradise to bat on..

They were setting a target we are chasing it.

 

[Aman]

Williamson is like Amla and Azhar and Smith: too gentle a personality to lead.

Neil Wagner is the only guy forceful enough to lead this Black Caps Test team.

I'm surprised it's taking Kane this long to realize that captaincy isn't for him..

 

[shaz619]

Should draw this barring a collapse

 

[shaz619]

I'm surprised it's taking Kane this long to realize that captaincy isn't for him..

Or maybe the board of selectors no?

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Wagner with a supporting pitch is a threat, Wagner bowling 120 clicks with a flat track isn't.. I think you need to have pace to worry bowlers with short pitch bowling in unsupportive wickets

Let's hope so, but Pakistanis do find that length uncomfortable.

 

[Buffet]

That's the thing. Except for Sarfraz, Babar Pak team has serious issues rotating the strike which will result into slogging and thus losing wickets.

Pak has taken a massive risk by tuk tuking the last 20 overs of the first session when Azhar and Sami were set and NZ pacers tired.

You can't slog 200 runs so wickets will go down. I think Pakistan wants to avoid losing more than winning here. So playing it safe. First 15-20 overs after lunch will decide where this match will go.

Anyway, chasing 370 is a tough task, but NZ small grounds can help a bit here. One top edge went for six earlier. I saw same thing few more times earlier. So if you get lucky then runs can come quickly even with edges. Anyway, Pakistan will feel much better even with a draw if they don't lose too many wickets.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Southee and wagner/henry will surely start the session after the deinks break pak can accelerate.
Even their main pacers are not that good and nz/williamson took pressure quickly,he is already giving easy singles.But 369 is a huge target,one two wicket and everything change.

Don't know if it's in Azhar's book to accelerate. I am afraid he will lose his wicket doing so. That's why its better if they just keep ticking at 4 an over by taking a few singles and hitting the wide deliveries.

 

[itsme]

PAk shouldn't take too many risks williamson is giving easy singles no need for something foolish.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Draw is the same as a loss.

We can still do it but pitch is flat and we played too slow.

 

[Aman]

Or maybe the board of selectors no?

Kane should know that he can't hack it.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

You can't slog 200 runs so wickets will go down. I think Pakistan wants to avoid losing more than winning here. So playing it safe. First 15-20 overs after lunch will decide where this match will go.

Anyway, chasing 370 is a tough task, but NZ small grounds can help a bit here. One top edge went for six earlier. I saw same thing few more times earlier. So if you get lucky then runs can come quickly even with edges. Anyway, Pakistan will feel much better even with a draw if they don't lose too many wickets.

Yes exactly. That's what I thought as well. They are assessing the situation and will push on if things remain comfortable. Not the best attitude when 1-0 behind but yea it's in a way how Pakistanis go about their test cricket.

 

[Belawal2014]

How long is this lunch break?

 

[itsme]

You can't slog 200 runs so wickets will go down. I think Pakistan wants to avoid losing more than winning here. So playing it safe. First 15-20 overs after lunch will decide where this match will go.

Anyway, chasing 370 is a tough task, but NZ small grounds can help a bit here. One top edge went for six earlier. I saw same thing few more times earlier. So if you get lucky then runs can come quickly even with edges. Anyway, Pakistan will feel much better even with a draw if they don't lose too many wickets.

I am yet to see a six coming of the middle of the bat even sohail two sixes were edges.

 

[itsme]

How long is this lunch break?

40 min 6 min left

 

[Aman]

How long is this lunch break?

Second session about to start.

 

[Junaids]

Next 10 over add 40 runs please.

Then we are chasing 253 in 50 overs. Babar, Sarfraz, and Rizwan can chase that if they play like it's a one day. Amir and Sohail can smack a few at the end.

But it isn't a one day match. No fielding restrictions, no wides and a second new ball. On a wicket where some balls will shoot low.

 

[Saeed]

How long is this lunch break?

5 more minutes.

 

[Belawal2014]

Thanks guys ^^^

 

[shaz619]

He can easily step down.

Does he easily select A squads, team squads, determine team captains at all levels and facilitate NZ cricket also?

 

[shaz619]

Just saw highlights, they batted well to survive a really tough session.

 

[itsme]

Yes exactly. That's what I thought as well. They are assessing the situation and will push on if things remain comfortable. Not the best attitude when 1-0 behind but yea it's in a way how Pakistanis go about their test cricket.

No they are going for the chase otherwise azhar wouldn't have accelerate and play thoses risky strokes neither sami with his slog sweeps.

 

[Boom boom legend]

2 match series are so frustrating. This test, we have improved from the first one and instead of being able to kick on, the series has finished.

 

[yasir]

One 50 and one 100 in QEA while Salman Butt has twice as many of both.

Shaun is not an opener, his technique is very flawed, too easy to workout, same is true with Hafeez or Shezad. Sami is way more superior to them including Butt. There is no point of going back to them. Scoring in domestic tells me nothing. Kamran Akmal is scoring more than all of them.

I think Sami will do ok in Aus as well. He can develop his game, assets he has are much better than what we got from others in past.

 

[On_the_up]

Think they are going for it.

 

[itsme]

Lol at williamson's captaincy,hope he lets the field like that.

 

[Saeed]

4 of the over. We much score at this rate for this session. Anything below is a draw.

 

[Justcrazy]

Its not easy to get 300 runs in 2 sessions , you need constant rotation of strike and concessional boundaries.

 

[yasir]

No they are going for the chase otherwise azhar wouldn't have accelerate and play thoses risky strokes neither sami with his slog sweeps.

If Satner bowls half of those 60 overs, there is a remote chance we can socre 290 runs, but he won't be bowling, Pakistanis loosen up because of him, they are not that dumb.

Safety first will remain the main theme in next session, If we get another 50 runs without wicket, at 3 an over, maybe we can try Sher Khan at one down and hope that he will hit quick fire 40, then Sarfraz quick fire 50, even then 150 left.... See how many ifs and buts are there

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Azhar and Sami playing for their 50's first then they might try something, lol.

 

[Justcrazy]

Kiwis are not likely to bowl loose balls.

 

[waleed88]

If you fused Wagner and Wahab, you would end up with a poor man's Johnson.

Though I always wondered how did Wagner do in India? Was he used there?

 

[itsme]

If Satner bowls half of those 60 overs, there is a remote chance we can socre 290 runs, but he won't be bowling, Pakistanis loosen up because of him, they are not that dumb.

Safety first will remain the main theme in next session, If we get another 50 runs without wicket, at 3 an over, maybe we can try Sher Khan at one down and hope that he will hit quick fire 40, then Sarfraz quick fire 50, even then 150 left.... See how many ifs and buts are there

No azhar starts going after henry and wagner.

 

[waleed88]

2 match series are so frustrating. This test, we have improved from the first one and instead of being able to kick on, the series has finished.

Its very unfortunate, we didn't even have a practice game to start with, and the earthquake wasn't an ideal start to our series either..

There should've been more time to acclimitize, we finished the WI series only 15 days ago

 

[KingKhanWC]

I can't remember any team chasing down a target with around 300 runs required in the last two sessions of a test match.

Draw is well on but a win would be up there with one of the greatest chases of all time.

 

[Justcrazy]

One of these have to move on here.

 

[Abdullah719]

I stand corrected regarding what I said earlier - According to the commentators, they've been informed that 98 overs have to be bowled today and they can play beyond the closing time.

Interesting.

 

[itsme]

One of these have to move on here.

They are going good

 

[On_the_up]

Irrespective of the result, this partnership should give much needed confidence to the team ahead of the Australian tour. With Babar also in the runs, and Misbah back, just need YK and Shafiq to get a few.

 

[shaaik]

I can't remember any team chasing down a target with around 300 runs required in the last two sessions of a test match.

Draw is well on but a win would be up there with one of the greatest chases of all time.

Stay glued to your Television. You will witness history being created today.

 

[Justcrazy]

283 required , just 58 overs

 

[Saeed]

Irrespective of the result, this partnership should give much needed confidence to the team ahead of the Australian tour. With Babar also in the runs, and Misbah back, just need YK and Shafiq to get a few.

Does Australia have similar pitches? Azhar's avergae is quite good agianst Australia.

 

[Professor]

I can't remember any team chasing down a target with around 300 runs required in the last two sessions of a test match.

Draw is well on but a win would be up there with one of the greatest chases of all time.

Pakistan did that a few years ago in UAE

 

[Belawal2014]

I stand corrected regarding what I said earlier - According to the commentators, they've been informed that 98 overs have to be bowled today and they can play beyond the closing time.

Interesting.

Which leaves us how many overs in total?

 

[Abdul]

Which leaves us how many overs in total?

57.0.

 

[Zeshan547]

Oh bhai atleast show some intent, their is zero threat in bowling and pitch, it's only the coward nature which is stopping them to have a go.

 

[Syed1]

Wow Kane is such a defensive captaincy...

Laddy you still have 280 odd runs to play with

 

[Abdullah719]

Which leaves us how many overs in total?

We played 3 overs yesterday. So we have 101 overs in total. Another 57 overs.

I was under the impression that we might fall a few overs short (we probably will) but apparently play will go on after the extra half-hour.

 

[Syed1]

We played 3 overs yesterday. So we have 101 overs in total. Another 57 overs.

I was under the impression that we might fall a few overs short (we probably will) but apparently play will go on after the extra half-hour.

They are not showing any intent to chase it though.

 

[Sherlock]

Baffling tactics by Pakistan...still no sign of aggression or intent. It's almost as if they're treating this as a warm-up for the Australia tour!

 

[Zeshan547]

What are they waiting for? Half volleys at 120 kph? This is even beyond common sense.

 

[Abdullah719]

Baffling tactics by Pakistan...still no sign of aggression or intent. It's almost as if they're treating this as a warm-up for the Australia tour!

Perhaps they've been reading [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]' posts.

 

[itsme]

250-260 for the last 50 is good

 

[Boom boom legend]

What is Sami doing? Seems like he has slowed down after lunch instead of accelerating.

 

[Waqarkhan]

Sami aslam has to go if pakistan were to win this guy dont know how to rotate srike

 

[itsme]

Sami should be looking for those singles now

 

[KingKhanWC]

Stay glued to your Television. You will witness history being created today.

Being -5C outside, it seems like a plan.

 

[Saeed]

Azhar Ali in nervous 40s.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Pakistan did that a few years ago in UAE

Of course, I stand corrected!

This would be more epic I think.