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Next generation battle - Babar Azam vs Shreyas Iyer

Qdk is the only serious competitor to Babar among under-30 batsmen.

The Indian hype, Rahuls and Iyers are one format success player.
 
Babar Azam is better than Smith in all formats except test.

Babar is third best player in tests
Babar is a top 5 T20 player
Babar is a top 5 odi player.
 
I think Iyer might beat Babar in a Beatbox battle of a dance off.

Not sure about batting
 
He is a ****** player. Trash cannon dud. Throw him in the dump. Not good enough on bouncy or swing tracks. Get lost. Good bye.
 
But but but if Babar was Indian he would be what Iyer is today and if Iyer was Pakistani he would be rated amongst the best 4 batsmen like Babar is today, said a certain someone!
 
Iyer is a good batsman and we do not have better replacement than him. He needs to improve or else will continue to fail in Aus/SA.
 
Mamoon said:
Very similar players and probably at the same level. Iyer might be a tad more versatile.

It just goes to show the vast difference between the two sides when it comes expectations and pedigree.

Iyer would be an absolute star in Pakistan already, but in India, he is in the shadow of Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul, and pretty soon Shaw and Gill as well.

Take a look at Agarwal as well. He was scoring double hundreds against South Africa for fun, but you would hardly see any hype for him.

In Pakistan, a batsman who gets a hundred against Sri Lanka or Bangladesh B turns into a national hero overnight.

That is why, you always have to be cautious when comparing Indian and Pakistani batsmen.

A great Pakistani batsman is a good batsman for Indian batting standards, but a good Indian batsman is an extraordinary batsman for Pakistani batting standards.
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Mashallah what foresight.

The only thing they have at the same level is probably their height and the comparison ends there.
 
Mamoon said:
Very similar players and probably at the same level. Iyer might be a tad more versatile.

It just goes to show the vast difference between the two sides when it comes expectations and pedigree.

Iyer would be an absolute star in Pakistan already, but in India, he is in the shadow of Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul, and pretty soon Shaw and Gill as well.

Take a look at Agarwal as well. He was scoring double hundreds against South Africa for fun, but you would hardly see any hype for him.

In Pakistan, a batsman who gets a hundred against Sri Lanka or Bangladesh B turns into a national hero overnight.

That is why, you always have to be cautious when comparing Indian and Pakistani batsmen.

A great Pakistani batsman is a good batsman for Indian batting standards, but a good Indian batsman is an extraordinary batsman for Pakistani batting standards.
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Bas aapki kami thy:)))
 
All Indian posters being respectful, humble and playing Iyer down.

Mamoon: Iyer and Babar are similar batsmen. Babar is good for Indian standards and Iyer is exceptional for Pakistani standards.

Wakhri makhlooq
 
Babar is definitely better. When I first saw Iyer batting in the IPL he was opening. Now he is batting at 4/5. Interested to know why he moved down the order.
 
This guy is going to turn out into an Indian less "raw talent" version of Umar Akmal. :uakmal

Too much arrogance for a dud who can't play anything over 85MPH to save his life. Hope Gill takes the no.4 spot.
 
While I think I shouldn’t interrupt the bhangra by fans of the 6th ranked team that recently lost to Zimbabwe at home, a little perspective never hurts.

Babar averaged 5 in NZ in the 2018 series and there was no pressure on him as far as getting dropped from the team was concerned.

If a young Indian batsman averages 5 in a series, he will definitely be dropped.

But everyone knew that Babar is a better player than what he showed in New Zealand in 2018 and Iyer is a better player than what he showed in Australia in this series.

Furthermore, as I said earlier, it is completely futile to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the weight of expectations and the standards are completely different.

If Babar was Indian, he wouldn’t have had more than 5 Test caps by now, and he wouldn’t have played a single ODI or T20 for India in the top 3.

His records and his performances would have been vastly different than they are now.

Similarly, the likes of KL Rahul and Iyer would have vastly different records and performances if they were playing for Pakistan which is a vastly inferior team to India in all formats with far less batting resources.

So before we brand Babar better than every Indian batsman across formats (except Kohli), it is important to consider that it is much, much harder to get into the Indian team as a batsman and also much, much harder to keep your place in the side.

Manish Pandey scored an 80 ball hundred and helped India chase 330 in Australia, but few ODI failures later his career was over.

Karun Nair scored a triple century in only his second Test against Anderson and Broad, but four Tests later his career was done.

Mayank Agarwal scored a double hundred and a hundred against South Africa in 3 Tests, but one bad series and he could be out of the team for Shaw or KL Rahul, and same goes for the latter two.

Rohit scored a double hundred and two 150+ scores against South Africa in 3 Tests, but even he will struggle to keep his place if he has a bad series or two.

When he averaged around 40 in the middle order, he couldn’t keep his place in the side. On the contrary, the likes of Azhar and Shafiq have made 10 year careers by averaging 40.

I can go on and on and on.

Babar took 2 years to get his average beyond 35 in Test cricket and he wouldn’t have been afford this luxury in India.

The above performances by Indian players that I mentioned would be more than sufficient enough to have 10 year careers in Pakistan.

If our batsmen had the ability to play such innings they would milk it for the rest of their careers.

That is why it completely pointless and irrational to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the dynamics are totally different.

Iyer scored 103, 52 and 62 in the ODI series in New Zealand last year and was the top scorer from both sides.

A performance like this by a young Pakistani batsman in New Zealand would be enough credit in the bank for a decade.

However, Indian fans are abusing Iyer because he failed in 3 ODIs in Australia.

That is the gigantic difference between standards and expectations between two countries with huge gulf in quality.
 
Mamoon said:
While I think I shouldn’t interrupt the bhangra by fans of the 6th ranked team that recently lost to Zimbabwe at home, a little perspective never hurts.

Babar averaged 5 in NZ in the 2018 series and there was no pressure on him as far as getting dropped from the team was concerned.

If a young Indian batsman averages 5 in a series, he will definitely be dropped.

But everyone knew that Babar is a better player than what he showed in New Zealand in 2018 and Iyer is a better player than what he showed in Australia in this series.

Furthermore, as I said earlier, it is completely futile to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the weight of expectations and the standards are completely different.

If Babar was Indian, he wouldn’t have had more than 5 Test caps by now, and he wouldn’t have played a single ODI or T20 for India in the top 3.

His records and his performances would have been vastly different than they are now.

Similarly, the likes of KL Rahul and Iyer would have vastly different records and performances if they were playing for Pakistan which is a vastly inferior team to India in all formats with far less batting resources.

So before we brand Babar better than every Indian batsman across formats (except Kohli), it is important to consider that it is much, much harder to get into the Indian team as a batsman and also much, much harder to keep your place in the side.

Manish Pandey scored an 80 ball hundred and helped India chase 330 in Australia, but few ODI failures later his career was over.

Karun Nair scored a triple century in only his second Test against Anderson and Broad, but four Tests later his career was done.

Mayank Agarwal scored a double hundred and a hundred against South Africa in 3 Tests, but one bad series and he could be out of the team for Shaw or KL Rahul, and same goes for the latter two.

Rohit scored a double hundred and two 150+ scores against South Africa in 3 Tests, but even he will struggle to keep his place if he has a bad series or two.

When he averaged around 40 in the middle order, he couldn’t keep his place in the side. On the contrary, the likes of Azhar and Shafiq have made 10 year careers by averaging 40.

I can go on and on and on.

Babar took 2 years to get his average beyond 35 in Test cricket and he wouldn’t have been afford this luxury in India.

The above performances by Indian players that I mentioned would be more than sufficient enough to have 10 year careers in Pakistan.

If our batsmen had the ability to play such innings they would milk it for the rest of their careers.

That is why it completely pointless and irrational to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the dynamics are totally different.

Iyer scored 103, 52 and 62 in the ODI series in New Zealand last year and was the top scorer from both sides.

A performance like this by a young Pakistani batsman in New Zealand would be enough credit in the bank for a decade.

However, Indian fans are abusing Iyer because he failed in 3 ODIs in Australia.

That is the gigantic difference between standards and expectations between two countries with huge gulf in quality.
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Another useless essay

This isn’t a debate, comparison at all! Indians accept it, Pakistanis accept it. Why are you the only one trying to beat a dead horse? This is the delusion that you have!
 
Iyer has a major problem against anything bowled short at 130 plus this type of issue usually sticks with the batsman for life and its very rare a batsman will overcome this. Beven did not so didn't Raina and you need to have a Steve Waugh type ice cold temperent and grit to do it and unfortunately Iyer does not strike me the next Steve Waugh and even Waugh did not become good with short ball he just learned how to defend it.

Babar bad run I'm 2018 was a run off the mill bad form where batsman are nicking off it happens to all greats time to time be it Kohli, Sachin, Lara, Inzi etc

There cases are not comparable in any sort of way.
 
Xoib said:
Iyer has a major problem against anything bowled short at 130 plus this type of issue usually sticks with the batsman for life and its very rare a batsman will overcome this. Beven did not so didn't Raina and you need to have a Steve Waugh type ice cold temperent and grit to do it and unfortunately Iyer does not strike me the next Steve Waugh and even Waugh did not become good with short ball he just learned how to defend it.

Babar bad run I'm 2018 was a run off the mill bad form where batsman are nicking off it happens to all greats time to time be it Kohli, Sachin, Lara, Inzi etc

There cases are not comparable in any sort of way.
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Spot on but Mamoon refuses to take of his blue tinted glasses!
 
Iyer has scored 360 runs against SENA teams in 10 matches and averages around 40. Babar has scored nearly 1700 runs in 40 games against SENA teams at 47.5 average with none of the matches at home. That should put the comparison to rest.
 
Iyer is basically our 5th best batsmen behind Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli and Rahul. So, an average of 45 and S/R of 100 is very good IMO.

I am sure he would be overwhelmed by the fact that in a Pakistani forum, Babar was once compared with him.
 
MHN1293 said:
Iyer has scored 360 runs against SENA teams in 10 matches and averages around 40. Babar has scored nearly 1700 runs in 40 games against SENA teams at 47.5 average with none of the matches at home. That should put the comparison to rest.
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Dude Babar is a top 5 batsman in odi. Why the hell are you guys comparing him to a maybe number 15 ranked batsman.
 
Xoib said:
Iyer has a major problem against anything bowled short at 130 plus this type of issue usually sticks with the batsman for life and its very rare a batsman will overcome this. Beven did not so didn't Raina and you need to have a Steve Waugh type ice cold temperent and grit to do it and unfortunately Iyer does not strike me the next Steve Waugh and even Waugh did not become good with short ball he just learned how to defend it.

Babar bad run I'm 2018 was a run off the mill bad form where batsman are nicking off it happens to all greats time to time be it Kohli, Sachin, Lara, Inzi etc

There cases are not comparable in any sort of way.
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They didn't remember what happened to kohli in 2012
 
Ab Fan said:
Iyer is basically our 5th best batsmen behind Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli and Rahul. So, an average of 45 and S/R of 100 is very good IMO.

I am sure he would be overwhelmed by the fact that in a Pakistani forum, Babar was once compared with him.
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To be fair at the time thread was made Babar was still finding his feet Babar has really upped the game in past 2 years.
 
Abdullah Rabbani said:
They didn't remember what happened to kohli in 2012
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Iyer to be honest never looked top class to me I can imagine a comparison with Rahul or even Mayank as they look to have covered most bases. Iyer looked more at the level of Kedar jadav , Panday, yousuf pathan etc guys good for IPL but lacking a bit to make the top level.
 
When naseem made statement the knive were out but yet when iyer made this statement its not getting criticised
 
In T20s Iyer is literally useless if he isn't batting in the top 3. There is no chance of him batting in the Indian top 3 in T20s due to the quality they have.
 
We need a fully fit and firing Rishabh Pant in T20 format. Pant & Pandya are your two explosive players in T20 format.
 
He needs to be in the t20 team only when India plays in the subcontinent. Horses for courses.
 
Iyer is much more talented than Babar, quite simple really. Rahul has already surpassed Babar as a certified match-winner, it's only a matter of time Iyer does the same.

Give Samson three more games, and he will also be better than Babar.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Iyer is much more talented than Babar, quite simple really. Rahul has already surpassed Babar as a certified match-winner, it's only a matter of time Iyer does the same.

Give Samson three more games, and he will also be better than Babar.
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Sanju samson is already better. Ridiculous of you to think he needs 3 more games.
 
Usman Chadda said:
I hear what you are saying. This Samson is a superstar in the making, way more potential than Babar.
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He's got a 10th gear and babar can't get into 2nd. Huge difference. Scored at 110sr without any boundaries in t20. Superstar.
 
Mamoon said:
While I think I shouldn’t interrupt the bhangra by fans of the 6th ranked team that recently lost to Zimbabwe at home, a little perspective never hurts.

Babar averaged 5 in NZ in the 2018 series and there was no pressure on him as far as getting dropped from the team was concerned.

If a young Indian batsman averages 5 in a series, he will definitely be dropped.

But everyone knew that Babar is a better player than what he showed in New Zealand in 2018 and Iyer is a better player than what he showed in Australia in this series.

Furthermore, as I said earlier, it is completely futile to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the weight of expectations and the standards are completely different.

If Babar was Indian, he wouldn’t have had more than 5 Test caps by now, and he wouldn’t have played a single ODI or T20 for India in the top 3.

His records and his performances would have been vastly different than they are now.

Similarly, the likes of KL Rahul and Iyer would have vastly different records and performances if they were playing for Pakistan which is a vastly inferior team to India in all formats with far less batting resources.

So before we brand Babar better than every Indian batsman across formats (except Kohli), it is important to consider that it is much, much harder to get into the Indian team as a batsman and also much, much harder to keep your place in the side.

Manish Pandey scored an 80 ball hundred and helped India chase 330 in Australia, but few ODI failures later his career was over.

Karun Nair scored a triple century in only his second Test against Anderson and Broad, but four Tests later his career was done.

Mayank Agarwal scored a double hundred and a hundred against South Africa in 3 Tests, but one bad series and he could be out of the team for Shaw or KL Rahul, and same goes for the latter two.

Rohit scored a double hundred and two 150+ scores against South Africa in 3 Tests, but even he will struggle to keep his place if he has a bad series or two.

When he averaged around 40 in the middle order, he couldn’t keep his place in the side. On the contrary, the likes of Azhar and Shafiq have made 10 year careers by averaging 40.

I can go on and on and on.

Babar took 2 years to get his average beyond 35 in Test cricket and he wouldn’t have been afford this luxury in India.

The above performances by Indian players that I mentioned would be more than sufficient enough to have 10 year careers in Pakistan.

If our batsmen had the ability to play such innings they would milk it for the rest of their careers.

That is why it completely pointless and irrational to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the dynamics are totally different.

Iyer scored 103, 52 and 62 in the ODI series in New Zealand last year and was the top scorer from both sides.

A performance like this by a young Pakistani batsman in New Zealand would be enough credit in the bank for a decade.

However, Indian fans are abusing Iyer because he failed in 3 ODIs in Australia.

That is the gigantic difference between standards and expectations between two countries with huge gulf in quality.
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Summary : all Indian batsmen are better than babar azam including the ones who are yet to perform at international level
 
Ahmed216 said:
Summary : all Indian batsmen are better than babar azam including the ones who are yet to perform at international level
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This guy also said Shubman Gill is already better than all Asian batsmen before Gill made his international debut
 
Usman Chadda said:
Iyer is much more talented than Babar, quite simple really. Rahul has already surpassed Babar as a certified match-winner, it's only a matter of time Iyer does the same.

Give Samson three more games, and he will also be better than Babar.
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He iyer showed his talent today unstoppable
 
shamaan said:
Everyone is better than babar even ashwin as a batter
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Its just that if Ashwin played for Pak. He would have batted at no 3 amd would have a a vastly great record than Babar.
The problem with a lot of posters here is that they have wild fantasies of indian batsmen. Gill without making debut is best batsman from Asia(other than India). These are rubbish claims/assumptions as there is a huge difference between international and U-19 cricket. Indian batsmen have great FC records because there are a lot if teams and plenty of poor bowling line ups to feast on and obviously the pitches are batting paradises beyond joke.
There is a reason why Ind often get humiliated in Eng and Nz and do just enough to be satisfactory( read: not get absolutely thrashed) in Aus. Bowler toil and Batsmen learn to make to big runs on highways of ranji trophy which help them survive better in Aus
 
That guy is one of the worst batsman I have ever seen it was fun seeing him ducking when they were bowling short ball.He can't play pace bowling at all.On top of that his attitude is like he is some superstar looks very arrogant.I would love to punch this guy on face.It's fun seeing him humiliated.
 
Lol this thread. Are we serious ? Iyer is a good flat track player but he is no where close to Babar. When he learns how to play bounce then he can compare himself with top tier players like Babar.
 
Smudger said:
Its just that if Ashwin played for Pak. He would have batted at no 3 amd would have a a vastly great record than Babar.
The problem with a lot of posters here is that they have wild fantasies of indian batsmen. Gill without making debut is best batsman from Asia(other than India). These are rubbish claims/assumptions as there is a huge difference between international and U-19 cricket. Indian batsmen have great FC records because there are a lot if teams and plenty of poor bowling line ups to feast on and obviously the pitches are batting paradises beyond joke.
There is a reason why Ind often get humiliated in Eng and Nz and do just enough to be satisfactory( read: not get absolutely thrashed) in Aus. Bowler toil and Batsmen learn to make to big runs on highways of ranji trophy which help them survive better in Aus
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Indians don't play county and play practice test matches before and England and new Zealand series. Thats the only reason India lose there. In 2000 era when India actually took those teams seriously and played tour games or county they have won there.
Now in this era India don't have the time as T20 and odi are played before a major tests eriesm India's schedule is way more packed. Would be a different outcome if they actually prepared solely for a test series like in 2000 era.

Only reason Pakistan even have a good record in England new Zealand is because they play county and or tour games before the series.

they get brutally decimated and butchered in Australia and South Africa because they can't play bounce, lack fitness and are just mediocre all round in testing pitches.
 
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Mamoon said:
While I think I shouldn’t interrupt the bhangra by fans of the 6th ranked team that recently lost to Zimbabwe at home, a little perspective never hurts.

Babar averaged 5 in NZ in the 2018 series and there was no pressure on him as far as getting dropped from the team was concerned.

If a young Indian batsman averages 5 in a series, he will definitely be dropped.

But everyone knew that Babar is a better player than what he showed in New Zealand in 2018 and Iyer is a better player than what he showed in Australia in this series.

Furthermore, as I said earlier, it is completely futile to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the weight of expectations and the standards are completely different.

If Babar was Indian, he wouldn’t have had more than 5 Test caps by now, and he wouldn’t have played a single ODI or T20 for India in the top 3.

His records and his performances would have been vastly different than they are now.

Similarly, the likes of KL Rahul and Iyer would have vastly different records and performances if they were playing for Pakistan which is a vastly inferior team to India in all formats with far less batting resources.

So before we brand Babar better than every Indian batsman across formats (except Kohli), it is important to consider that it is much, much harder to get into the Indian team as a batsman and also much, much harder to keep your place in the side.

Manish Pandey scored an 80 ball hundred and helped India chase 330 in Australia, but few ODI failures later his career was over.

Karun Nair scored a triple century in only his second Test against Anderson and Broad, but four Tests later his career was done.

Mayank Agarwal scored a double hundred and a hundred against South Africa in 3 Tests, but one bad series and he could be out of the team for Shaw or KL Rahul, and same goes for the latter two.

Rohit scored a double hundred and two 150+ scores against South Africa in 3 Tests, but even he will struggle to keep his place if he has a bad series or two.

When he averaged around 40 in the middle order, he couldn’t keep his place in the side. On the contrary, the likes of Azhar and Shafiq have made 10 year careers by averaging 40.

I can go on and on and on.

Babar took 2 years to get his average beyond 35 in Test cricket and he wouldn’t have been afford this luxury in India.

The above performances by Indian players that I mentioned would be more than sufficient enough to have 10 year careers in Pakistan.

If our batsmen had the ability to play such innings they would milk it for the rest of their careers.

That is why it completely pointless and irrational to compare Pakistani and Indian batsmen because the dynamics are totally different.

Iyer scored 103, 52 and 62 in the ODI series in New Zealand last year and was the top scorer from both sides.

A performance like this by a young Pakistani batsman in New Zealand would be enough credit in the bank for a decade.

However, Indian fans are abusing Iyer because he failed in 3 ODIs in Australia.

That is the gigantic difference between standards and expectations between two countries with huge gulf in quality.
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Being an Indian, I can just laugh at the trolling of Mamoon Bhai.
Comparing Iyer and Babar is stupid enough but declaring Iyer is actually better than Azam is on another level.:69::69::69:

This Mamoon guy is a high class troll, attention seeker, Rakhi-sawantesque drama queen or is a Blind bhakt of the big 3.

Based on the assumptions and dynamics considered by him it's like saying Jimmy Maher Australian batsmen who played during late nineties is better than Andy Flower because Jimmy Maher played for 1st ranked Australia and Andy Flower played for lower ranked Zimbabwe.

What is this guy smoking???? There is a limit for everything even for attention-seeking troll on a respected forum.......
 
Smudger said:
Its just that if Ashwin played for Pak. He would have batted at no 3 amd would have a a vastly great record than Babar.
The problem with a lot of posters here is that they have wild fantasies of indian batsmen. Gill without making debut is best batsman from Asia(other than India). These are rubbish claims/assumptions as there is a huge difference between international and U-19 cricket. Indian batsmen have great FC records because there are a lot if teams and plenty of poor bowling line ups to feast on and obviously the pitches are batting paradises beyond joke.
There is a reason why Ind often get humiliated in Eng and Nz and do just enough to be satisfactory( read: not get absolutely thrashed) in Aus. Bowler toil and Batsmen learn to make to big runs on highways of ranji trophy which help them survive better in Aus
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Very good sarcastic remark
 
CommonIndian said:
Being an Indian, I can just laugh at the trolling of Mamoon Bhai.
Comparing Iyer and Babar is stupid enough but declaring Iyer is actually better than Azam is on another level.:69::69::69:

This Mamoon guy is a high class troll, attention seeker, Rakhi-sawantesque drama queen or is a Blind bhakt of the big 3.

Based on the assumptions and dynamics considered by him it's like saying Jimmy Maher Australian batsmen who played during late nineties is better than Andy Flower because Jimmy Maher played for 1st ranked Australia and Andy Flower played for lower ranked Zimbabwe.

What is this guy smoking???? There is a limit for everything even for attention-seeking troll on a respected forum.......
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:))) :))) :)))

But in all seriousness, this thread should be closed. Iyer is a level above Babar.
 
CommonIndian said:
Being an Indian, I can just laugh at the trolling of Mamoon Bhai.
Comparing Iyer and Babar is stupid enough but declaring Iyer is actually better than Azam is on another level.:69::69::69:

This Mamoon guy is a high class troll, attention seeker, Rakhi-sawantesque drama queen or is a Blind bhakt of the big 3.

Based on the assumptions and dynamics considered by him it's like saying Jimmy Maher Australian batsmen who played during late nineties is better than Andy Flower because Jimmy Maher played for 1st ranked Australia and Andy Flower played for lower ranked Zimbabwe.

What is this guy smoking???? There is a limit for everything even for attention-seeking troll on a respected forum.......
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Couldn’t agree more & the last sentence sums up this Rakhi-sawantesque drama queen 😂😂
 
Mamoon said:
Very similar players and probably at the same level. Iyer might be a tad more versatile.

It just goes to show the vast difference between the two sides when it comes expectations and pedigree.

Iyer would be an absolute star in Pakistan already, but in India, he is in the shadow of Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul, and pretty soon Shaw and Gill as well.

Take a look at Agarwal as well. He was scoring double hundreds against South Africa for fun, but you would hardly see any hype for him.

In Pakistan, a batsman who gets a hundred against Sri Lanka or Bangladesh B turns into a national hero overnight.

That is why, you always have to be cautious when comparing Indian and Pakistani batsmen.

A great Pakistani batsman is a good batsman for Indian batting standards, but a good Indian batsman is an extraordinary batsman for Pakistani batting standards.
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One of the great analysts
 
What is the point of playing Iyer at 5/6 in T20s? He is not someone who gets going straight away. I can remember Iyer opening in the IPL when I first saw him. Now he has ended up at 5/6 . Kohli is there to play anchor, I really don’t see a need for Iyer in T20s.
 
Poor thread.

Iyer is a poor man's Babar. Babar can school him on how to play pace and bounce.
 
Let me guess...

Is it the ‘great weight of expectations’ that Shreyas must carry just like every young Indian batsman that is an added pressure? Maybe that’s holding him back in order to become better than Babar?
 
Babar will be a Pakistani great and plays all formats as the lead player and star of the team. Expectations and burden of responsibility will be massive on him whenever he goes out to bat. Something like what Sachin used to face back in 90's.

Iyer is just another talented Indian batsman who is vying for a spot in T20 and ODI teams. He can disappear faster than gas in a wind from Indian team if he fails in more than 2 consecutive matches.

Its an insult to Babar to get compared to every Indian batsman that comes across every year.
 
Yes every neela peela cricketer from around Ganges is better than Javed Miandad and Wasim Akram :rahat1
 
Today’s innings proves Shreyas is the next generation battle winner...
 
It's exactly this reason why we should keep looking for a lower order hitter that can do some fearless hitting and frankly having someone like Malik occupy that position is insane.
 
Both players are doing different roles for their team. It’s unfair to compare these two.

Babar is a better batsman but where I would take Iyer is , in a pressure situation since he is mentally strong and confident. he has also shown the ability to stabilise in middle order as well as move the run rate rapidly. He sometimes has strike rate over 150 at end of innings.
Babar is lacking those at the moment.
 
Is this even a question? Iyer is by far the better of the two because he has that "extra gear" and he would just walk into this pakistan side without a second thought.
 
If only Shreyas Iyer got as many opportunities as Babar. Iyer is Plproving to be one of the best talents in the world right now. Excellent asset to Indian cricket.
 
The most important required quality for a noob cricketer is to make the opportunities count. Shreyas Iyer is very good at that. Nobody thought he would ever play Tests. When he played he got a 100 & 60 in his debut test. Same way in one-dayers he is pretty consistent. T20 format is not suitable for him as he takes time to get going.
 
I would like to see him how he fares in ICC tournaments.That will decide if he can have a Raina or Gambhir type career.
 
RainStopsPlay said:
If only Shreyas Iyer got as many opportunities as Babar. Iyer is Plproving to be one of the best talents in the world right now. Excellent asset to Indian cricket.
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Not selectors or captain’s fault, if he is a sitting duck against bouncers at 130 kmph.
 
Ab Fan said:
I would like to see him how he fares in ICC tournaments.That will decide if he can have a Raina or Gambhir type career.
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So far he has displayed some clutch quality. He would have been a huge upgrade over DK in the 2019 world cup. DK is a great T20 player. But picking him in one dayers was a terrible mistake. He is also very responsible.
 
RainStopsPlay said:
If only Shreyas Iyer got as many opportunities as Babar. Iyer is Plproving to be one of the best talents in the world right now. Excellent asset to Indian cricket.
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"As Many opportunities" as if he would have done better than him in odis .By the way babar have 59 odi average that too after playing 90+ odis .He is currently one of the best odi batsmen going around .Do not confuse babar the t20 batsmen with odis
 
RainStopsPlay said:
If only Shreyas Iyer got as many opportunities as Babar. Iyer is Plproving to be one of the best talents in the world right now. Excellent asset to Indian cricket.
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I’ve been saying this for years.

Babar is comparable to reserve Indian batsmen like Iyer, Kishan, Samson etc.

The only difference is that Babar plays for a nothing team. When he emerged in 2015-16, he had no competition.

Pakistan’s best batsmen were Hafeez and Malik, two players who won’t make India Z team. He was allowed to establish himself and got a proper run.

On the other hand, players like Iyer, Kishan, Samson etc. are competing with Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan etc.

These reverse Indian batsmen would have been superstars in Pakistan while Babar would be a nobody at this stage of his career. He would hardly have had 50 innings under his belt across formats.

If two young Pakistani batsmen play the knocks Iyer and Kishan played today, the fans would do bhangra for a year and the two young batsmen would cement their place in the team for 5 years. In India, they don’t even know if they will be in the playing XI in the next ODI series.

No point in comparing India and Pakistan. I know it hurts ego of Pakistani fans but it is what it is. We are talking different levels here.
 
Babar is better player of pace, Iyer is the better player of spin. Iyer has maybe one extra gear more than Babar with the bat. Aesthetically speaking I would like to watch Babar bat in tests because he has more elegance but as I said Iyer is kind of entertaining when he is in gear 5 especially against spinners.
 
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