No Justice in Pakistan: Judge's son kills 2 and gets a Pardon in 4 Days

[Bewal Express]

The FM has claimed he has bern appointed by Allah to be PK leader. Well the 16 yr son of the IHC judge killed women in a car accident. The Judge appointed by Munir to IHC( to let the Junta abuse their power) used his power and got the son off scot free within 4 days. The family were threatened to take the money or face the consequences. Has Allah really appointed this thug to be leader, a leader that appoints judges who through their families kill people.
Is the life of an average PK worth a grain a salt to Munir and the criminal elite

@The Bald Eagle
@Kianig89
@Major
@psyoptica

Victims’ families pardon IHC judge’s son in hit-and-run case

Teenage accused was remanded into police custody on Tuesday; brother of one victim and father of other appeared before magistrate.

www.dawn.com

 

[big_gamer007]

Chances are this would have happened under any other government as well.

It’s not about who is in power, it’s about the system, sub continent system is corrupt to the core and has to be changed from grassroots. Also, the poor have accepted being third class citizens.

 

[Kianig89]

As one politician from opposition said , the pakistan courts are now monkey courts doing show as their strings get pulled

 

[psyoptica]

Pakistan is a lawless Country where it’s all about survival of the fittest. These incidents are way too common in society and have no affect on people’s conscience

 

[Major]

I saw this thread get made. Waited quietly to see if the mods would fix the thread title, just like how they are quick enough to merge threads......

 

[emranabbas]

Chances are this would have happened under any other government as well.

It’s not about who is in power, it’s about the system, sub continent system is corrupt to the core and has to be changed from grassroots. Also, the poor have accepted being third class citizens.

No no brother you have not seen the risyast e madina a crime and corruption free pakistan
Where have you been from 2018-2022?

There was 0 crime in pakistan and 0 corruption in pakistan. We were giving loans to other countries for fun and naya pakistan was like heaven.

You must have missed all that

 

[BouncerGuy]

Unfortunately, this is what these guys have turned this country into... no accountability here.

 

[emranabbas]

I saw this thread get made. Waited quietly to see if the mods would fix the thread title, just like how they are quick enough to merge threads......

The mods clearly lean pro-PTI and show bias in situations like this. You just have to deal with it and risk a ban, because at the end of the day it’s their forum and their rules.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The mods clearly lean pro-PTI and show bias in situations like this. You just have to deal with it and risk a ban, because at the end of the day it’s their forum and their rules.

Did you read the title before you made such nonsense allegations about mods???

Watch your posts

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Chances are this would have happened under any other government as well.

It’s not about who is in power, it’s about the system, sub continent system is corrupt to the core and has to be changed from grassroots. Also, the poor have accepted being third class citizens.

There is a difference here from other subcontinent countries.

This decision is given a religious stamp because victims agree to "forgive" - which is religiously valid based on a simplistic argument that doesn't take into account the different power dynamics than can influence such a decision.

So unlike in other countries, technically in Pakistan, in this instance justice has actually been served.

 

[emranabbas]

Did you read the title before you made such nonsense allegations about mods???

Watch your posts

I have but have you?

The actual title for the article is

"Victims' families pardon IHC judge's son in hit-and- run case"

So why have you allowed a diffrent title to the actual article so someone can push their anti state agenda?

 

[BouncerGuy]

I have but have you?

The actual title for the article is

"Victims' families pardon IHC judge's son in hit-and- run case"

So why have you allowed a diffrent title to the actual article so someone can push their anti state agenda?

Current title is ok... move on

 

[emranabbas]

Current title is ok... move on

Where in article does it say no justice has hapoened have you read the actual article?
Or your also pushing an anti state agenda?

 

[Major]

Current title is ok... move on

how so?

Why not make the thread titled as no justice in Islam, because hasnt the islamic ruling of diyat/forgiveness been used here?

 

[Major]

Where in article does it say no justice has hapoened have you read the actual article?
Or your also pushing an anti state agenda?

its funny watching some of these guys lacking sense editing posts and threads here.

Even though i dont agree with what happened, and feel sorry for the victims, but under the islamic laws that we allow in Pakistan, it comes under jutice being served.

But seems like pti fans here just want to promote their own narratives

 

[emranabbas]

its funny watching some of these guys lacking sense editing posts and threads here.

Even though i dont agree with what happened, and feel sorry for the victims, but under the islamic laws that we allow in Pakistan, it comes under jutice being served.

But seems like pti fans here just want to promote their own narratives

Thread title don't match the actual article at all

Imagine using a positive article about imran khan with a positive title and posting with a negative thread title and negative opening post.

Thread will be corrected stright away or the Thread would be deleted

 

[globetrotter]

If you are rich and famous then you are above the Law..... India is no different.

We all know what happened in Salman Khan's drunk and driving case

 

[BouncerGuy]

If you guys are not looking at how it all happened, you guys are just ignorent.... Judge's son kills 2 and family forgives him in no time... How ignorent you are if are not seeing the backdrop here...

 

[emranabbas]

If you are rich and famous then you are above the Law..... India is no different.

We all know what happened in Salman Khan's drunk and driving case

No bro you got it wrong it only happens in pakistan not in india or anywhere else in the world.

 

[Kianig89]

More to this, the vehicle driven by the culprit has fake number plate ,

 

[emranabbas]

If you guys are not looking at how it all happened, you guys are just ignorent.... Judge's son kills 2 and family forgives him in no time... How ignorent you are if are not seeing the backdrop here...

Where is the evidence and facts all that happened or is that your assumption?

 

[Bewal Express]

Chances are this would have happened under any other government as well.

It’s not about who is in power, it’s about the system, sub continent system is corrupt to the core and has to be changed from grassroots. Also, the poor have accepted being third class citizens.

But Munir has claimed to many that he appointed by Allah and what's more he directly appointed the Judge to stop justice being done. So you are only half right.

 

[Bewal Express]

Thread title don't match the actual article at all

Imagine using a positive article about imran khan with a positive title and posting with a negative thread title and negative opening post.

Thread will be corrected stright away or the Thread would be deleted

The article is just a link. Remember they would be locked up if they wrote the full facts.
2 women are killed by a kid of 16 illegally driving a car. The Judge himself gets to scene and then takes control. In 4 days the whole case is dismissed after the family are pressurised into submission.
This Judge was appointed by Munir after the 26th Amendment. Aren't you ashamed at this injustice, do you have no anger at what happened. Were these ladies lives so worthless?

 

[Bewal Express]

Where is the evidence and facts all that happened or is that your assumption?

Why hasnt the CCTV not released? Who is responsible for the deaths of these ladies if this isnt

 

[Bewal Express]

More to this, the vehicle driven by the culprit has fake number plate ,

Its a horrible story that gets worse. This is the true callousness of this regime.

 

[Bewal Express]

If you guys are not looking at how it all happened, you guys are just ignorent.... Judge's son kills 2 and family forgives him in no time... How ignorent you are if are not seeing the backdrop here...

As I said It seems that our values are so different to these guys that I am not even sure we have shared humanity with them. They say that even bad people have good in them but I am not so sure anymore after reading @emranabbas desperate attempt to defend murder and abuse of power.
In 4 days the murder of the girls was dismissed after a judge appointed by Munir abuses his power.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

More to this, the vehicle driven by the culprit has fake number plate ,

From a shariah perspective this becomes a crime against the state and the state should prosecute.

The judge son is technically an an anti national

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

If you are rich and famous then you are above the Law..... India is no different.

We all know what happened in Salman Khan's drunk and driving case

You are right. India is not different from Pakistan. We also know what happened in Gujarat riots in 2002. And who can forget Sanjay Dutt getting 'aashirwad' from someone who was above the law.

 

[emranabbas]

As I said It seems that our values are so different to these guys that I am not even sure we have shared humanity with them. They say that even bad people have good in them but I am not so sure anymore after reading @emranabbas desperate attempt to defend murder and abuse of power.
In 4 days the murder of the girls was dismissed after a judge appointed by Munir abuses his power.

Where have I defended the murderer?

I pointed out how your turning this incident into your anti- state propaganda.

There is a diffrence

 

[emranabbas]

Why hasnt the CCTV not released? Who is responsible for the deaths of these ladies if this isnt

Maybe your should go to pakistan and do your own investigation and present us with facts and evidence than pushing your anti state agenda

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan isn’t a country. It’s a business

 

[Suleiman]

Pakistan isn’t a country. It’s a business

Brother, the guy in your profile pic was dismissed after killing people in a car himself because of his celeb status. Please have some introspection.

 

[Suleiman]

Disgusting. these are the bandits who have ruled the country for decades now.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Brother, the guy in your profile pic was dismissed after killing people in a car himself because of his celeb status. Please have some introspection.

He went through a trial that went on for years. It’s one thing using great lawyers to get out of trouble over years - happens in all proper nations with a judicial system that follows innocent until proven guilty with concrete evidence and another to get out of it immediately.

 

[Red-Indian]

There is a difference here from other subcontinent countries.

This decision is given a religious stamp because victims agree to "forgive" - which is religiously valid based on a simplistic argument that doesn't take into account the different power dynamics than can influence such a decision.

So unlike in other countries, technically in Pakistan, in this instance justice has actually been served.

One way or the other, across the subcontinent and most of the developing world, justice is never served when the rich and influential commit a crime against the poor.

Don't know whether it's better for the crime to be legally forgiven as in Pakistan or to be litigated/intimidated into non-existence as in India

 

[DeadlyVenom]

One way or the other, across the subcontinent and most of the developing world, justice is never served when the rich and influential commit a crime against the poor.

Don't know whether it's better for the crime to be legally forgiven as in Pakistan or to be litigated/intimidated into non-existence as in India

Long term, as education levels increase and economic gaps close, people will hopefully feel less intimidated. At least in India, I bet the majority of people deep down know that a travesty has taken place.

However, in Pakistan, because this type of thing is given a religious stamp, the attitudes will take a lot longer to change.

 

[Red-Indian]

Long term, as education levels increase and economic gaps close, people will hopefully feel less intimidated. At least in India, I bet the majority of people deep down know that a travesty has taken place.

However, in Pakistan, because this type of thing is given a religious stamp, the attitudes will take a lot longer to change.

Yeah I really disagree with crimes especially at the level of murder being forgiven for murder. Comes from a place of privilege I know but feels deeply icky somehow.

Who knows how long it will take forthe rule of law to get strong enough for the rich and influential to pay for their crimes in India but you're right - at least the principle currently exists.

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

PML-N everyone.

 

[Bewal Express]

Where have I defended the murderer?

I pointed out how your turning this incident into your anti- state propaganda.

There is a diffrence

So now you are backtracking. In 4 days he was Pardoned by Judge Kundi after the family were threatened.

Is it anti state propaganda when I said the Judge was appointed by Munir to allow injustice in IHC after the 26th Amendment. That isnt anti state propaganda that is a fact. Can you refute it with your facts as to when he was appointed. If Munir can intervene to keep IK in prison without a single case that can be held up in court on appeal, surely he can charge this Judge and get a proper Prosecution of his Juvenile.

 

[Bewal Express]

PML-N everyone.

Yes, but more than its the Mafia capture

 

[Devadwal]

Famous, rich personality are not accountable for their crimes in subcontinent specially India and Pakistan . Nothing new.

 

[Bewal Express]

Famous, rich personality are not accountable for their crimes in subcontinent specially India and Pakistan . Nothing new.

That is true. However, Munir claimed he was appointed by Allah and he after the 26th Amendment he appointed the corrupt Judge from Balochistan to the IHC. The Judge did what Munir appointed him to do.

 

[Vikram1989]

U should not bring emotions to logic. Religion should not interfere with justice.Even in india few absurd rules like triple talaq existed while pure Islamic countries banned it.higher the objective higher the standards should be .we must not involve any religion for validation of a crime and deciding the fate of someone.

 

[Ball Blazer]

Nothing new. Natasha Danish was also bailed. Poor lives do not matter in countries like India and Pakistan. And riches are never accountable. Law is only for poor, while breaking the law is only for rich here

 

[emranabbas]

So now you are backtracking. In 4 days he was Pardoned by Judge Kundi after the family were threatened.

Is it anti state propaganda when I said the Judge was appointed by Munir to allow injustice in IHC after the 26th Amendment. That isnt anti state propaganda that is a fact. Can you refute it with your facts as to when he was appointed. If Munir can intervene to keep IK in prison without a single case that can be held up in court on appeal, surely he can charge this Judge and get a proper Prosecution of his Juvenile.

"The Judge appointed by Munir to IHC( to let the Junta abuse their power) used his power and got the son off scot free within 4 days. The family were threatened to take the money or face the consequences."

can you make a video and put your hand on the Quran and say this is exactly what happened because I can't find it anywhere in the article.

it may well have happened and if your presenting it as your opinion that's fair enough but your presenting it as facts

 

[Bewal Express]

"The Judge appointed by Munir to IHC( to let the Junta abuse their power) used his power and got the son off scot free within 4 days. The family were threatened to take the money or face the consequences."

can you make a video and put your hand on the Quran and say this is exactly what happened because I can't find it anywhere in the article.

it may well have happened and if your presenting it as your opinion that's fair enough but your presenting it as facts

Can you put your hand on the Koran to say it didnt happen as you seem convinced it didnr happen. This is called Dot connecting

Are you saying the Judge wasn't appointed by Munir after the 26th Amendment? Are you saying the son wasnt pardoned after 4 days? Are you saying the father wasnt involved.

If none of these things happened, I will apologise to you personally

 

[emranabbas]

Can you put your hand on the Koran to say it didnt happen as you seem convinced it didnr happen. This is called Dot connecting

Are you saying the Judge wasn't appointed by Munir after the 26th Amendment? Are you saying the son wasnt pardoned after 4 days? Are you saying the father wasnt involved.

If none of these things happened, I will apologise to you personally

you can fool your fellow pti supporters because they all dumb as crap otherwise they wouldnt be supporting PTI
but in the post above you completely missed that part where you claimed money was given so your back tracking?

im going by what you a news has reported if your presenting anything else as facts then where is the evidence for it and if you want us to go by your word of mouth then at least put your hand on Quran so we can go by that otherwise admit it its was anti state propaganda

 

[Bewal Express]

you can fool your fellow pti supporters because they all dumb as crap otherwise they wouldnt be supporting PTI
but in the post above you completely missed that part where you claimed money was given so your back tracking?

im going by what you a news has reported if your presenting anything else as facts then where is the evidence for it and if you want us to go by your word of mouth then at least put your hand on Quran so we can go by that otherwise admit it its was anti state propaganda

So lets put your little brain to the test. Why would the family forgive? Was it money or was it intimation. Besides having 2 people murdered, what did the family get from this horrible abuse of power.

 

[HalBass9]

The irony is almost poetic, the supporters of Hafiz sahib are suddenly the ones trying to uphold Pakistani law.

 

[emranabbas]

So lets put your little brain to the test. Why would the family forgive? Was it money or was it intimation. Besides having 2 people murdered, what did the family get from this horrible abuse of power.

can you put your hand on the quran and say it was 100 percent money? or is it your assumption

 

[Bewal Express]

can you put your hand on the quran and say it was 100 percent money? or is it your assumption

lets get that in your lendi size brain

Its an assumption based on the facts of a Judge and his kid killing 2 people. As you seem to deny the facts of a pardon in 4 days. Let's hear you explanation.

Or would like is to stop talking because it makes FM look like complete tosser that kills people directly or indirectly

 

[Bewal Express]

The irony is almost poetic, the supporters of Hafiz sahib are suddenly the ones trying to uphold Pakistani law.

Look at @emranabbas
What a waste of human skin. 2 people are murdered and he wants us not to talk about the system that allowed injustice to take place.

 

[emranabbas]

Its an assumption based on the facts of a Judge and his kid killing 2 people. As you seem to deny the facts of a pardon in 4 days. Let's hear you explanation.

Or would like is to stop talking because it makes FM look like complete tosser that kills people directly or indirectly

so its not facts an assumption thank you very much

 

[globetrotter]

You are right. India is not different from Pakistan. We also know what happened in Gujarat riots in 2002. And who can forget Sanjay Dutt getting 'aashirwad' from someone who was above the law.

You are right.... Sanjay dutt was also criminal... He also spared because he was rich and famous

 

[Bewal Express]

so its not facts an assumption thank you very much

You asked me about the Judge. I gave you facts. You asked about the kid, I gave you facts. What you are looking for is for us not to discuss it, as it makes you look stupid.
If you would like to add your opinion or facts then please do so. If you cant then get lost.

 

[emranabbas]

You asked me about the Judge. I gave you facts. You asked about the kid, I gave you facts. What you are looking for is for us not to discuss it, as it makes you look stupid.
If you would like to add your opinion or facts then please do so. If you cant then get lost.

where have I said not to discuss it? please point it out where has that been said?

again your assuming things

what I said your presenting lies as facts because you have an anti state agenda which you your self admitted it was based on assumption and it was not facts.

 

[Devadwal]

@finalfantasy7 this is conditions of your country. Totally gundaraaj.

Feeling bad for this man

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997719795811446859

 

[sweep_shot]

My cousin told me a story. He knew this one guy who physically assaulted a female. But, the female was too scared to ask for help or go to police because the dude was politically connected.

These things sadly happen a lot in subcontinent. If you are rich and influential, you can get away with many things.

I hope this situation will be reversed one day. It is not right to bully poor and vulnerable like this.

 

[Devadwal]

@finalfantasy7 this is conditions of your country. Totally gundaraaj.

Feeling bad for this man

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997719795811446859

Is Sarfaraz Chaudhary the same officer whose role was played by Sanjay Dutt in the latest film Dhurandhar

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Is Sarfaraz Chaudhary the same officer whose role was played by Sanjay Dutt in the latest film Dhurandhar

no he was Chaudhary Aslam... died back in 2014

 

[Devadwal]

no he was Chaudhary Aslam... died back in 2014

I'm currently watching this movie. Already Watched 1 hour 55 minutes ( last night) still 90 minutes left.

 

[finalfantasy7]

@finalfantasy7 this is conditions of your country. Totally gundaraaj.

Feeling bad for this man

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997719795811446859

i do feel for him,

however im born in the UK, not pakistan

 

[big_gamer007]

But Munir has claimed to many that he appointed by Allah and what's more he directly appointed the Judge to stop justice being done. So you are only half right.

All politicians/kings/powerful people lie, make big promises. That’s how the powerful have controlled the masses throughout history. They use all the shady tactics they can including creating new religions and making themselves prophets and gods.

This scam has been going on for centuries.

 

[Bewal Express]

All politicians/kings/powerful people lie, make big promises. That’s how the powerful have controlled the masses throughout history. They use all the shady tactics they can including creating new religions and making themselves prophets and gods.

This scam has been going on for centuries.

Yes. But we can see it with our own eyes and we need to criticise it.

 

[emranabbas]

@finalfantasy7 this is conditions of your country. Totally gundaraaj.

Feeling bad for this man

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997719795811446859

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997806836679049620

@Bewal Express since you care about the people of pakistan you have anything to say?
Or does this not fit your agenda?

 

[Bewal Express]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997806836679049620

@Bewal Express since you care about the people of pakistan you have anything to say?
Or does this not fit your agenda?

Who is the corrupt mafia? Who created this mafia? You need to read up on this story in detail. And you will see Munirs MI and ISI both involved. Will he take action against them.

Make sure you do your Homework before you tag me and embarras yourself

 

[emranabbas]

Who is the corrupt mafia? Who created this mafia? You need to read up on this story in detail. And you will see Munirs MI and ISI both involved. Will he take action against them.

Make sure you do your Homework before you tag me and embarras yourself

So there was 0 corruption between 2018-2022 is that what your saying? Your getting daft day by day and as usual running pillar to post and moving from topic like you did yesterday

So because ducky praised army this means nothing but if he was anti army then you would care for him and be worried for him and would have even created a thread and pretend to care for the people of pakistan

So stick to the topic of you caring for pakistani people

So which ones you care for PTI terrorists?

 

[IronShield]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997806836679049620

@Bewal Express since you care about the people of pakistan you have anything to say?
Or does this not fit your agenda?

NCCIA - National Crime Cyber Investigation Agency was set up in May 2024 by the Interior ministry to suppress dissent online. Mohsin Naqvi anyone?

Ducky bhai is no ordinary person, his brother is the Director General of Military Intelligence.

The story goes, Ducky bhai was involved in promotion of gambling apps in Pakistan, NCCIA found out and some individuals wanted to use that to squeeze money out of him. Then Ducky goes crying to his brother and rest is history as they say.

The Junta is using Ducky's "ordeal" to get some good PR, without revealing their own links to NCCIA and Ducky's links to MI.

Why is Ducky getting off scot free, promotion of gambling is illegal in Pakistan. Why isn't he being prosecuted for this? Oh yes, because his brother is Military Intelligence. So you can do whatever you like, as long as you are with the Junta, you are a protected species as they are beyond reproach and above the law.

Welcome to the two tier Pakistan, where you are made to be thankful for the existence of the military overlords.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

 

[Bewal Express]

So there was 0 corruption between 2018-2022 is that what your saying? Your getting daft day by day and as usual running pillar to post and moving from topic like you did yesterday

So because ducky praised army this means nothing but if he was anti army then you would care for him and be worried for him and would have even created a thread and pretend to care for the people of pakistan

So stick to the topic of you caring for pakistani people

So which ones you care for PTI terrorists?

Not at all. Corruption has been a problem but who controls the system. The only people in power is the boots. You do what they tell you, they will love you. Corruption is not a problem for them. Only guys they see as a threat.
The difference between IK and the others is that they didn't have the bank accounts or Avenfield they could pin on him. They didn't have the materials to blackmail him and so they created the cases.
PK cant move forward until it finds a way of dealing with evil menace of the Generals. No one realised( the public)what control they had and have. Each and every problem of Corruption and abuse has been there method of control.
They have destroyed both NSs party and PPP. Both are nationalised with nothing to offer.
PK needs a vibrant 3 party system with each party fighting its corner. It doesn't need the PPP to be corrupt or the Nooras to be also corrupt. The PTI had corrupt elements, but thankfully the Generals have taken them.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

NCCIA - National Crime Cyber Investigation Agency was set up in May 2024 by the Interior ministry to suppress dissent online. Mohsin Naqvi anyone?

Ducky bhai is no ordinary person, his brother is the Director General of Military Intelligence.

The story goes, Ducky bhai was involved in promotion of gambling apps in Pakistan, NCCIA found out and some individuals wanted to use that to squeeze money out of him. Then Ducky goes crying to his brother and rest is history as they say.

The Junta is using Ducky's "ordeal" to get some good PR, without revealing their own links to NCCIA and Ducky's links to MI.

Why is Ducky getting off scot free, promotion of gambling is illegal in Pakistan. Why isn't he being prosecuted for this? Oh yes, because his brother is Military Intelligence. So you can do whatever you like, as long as you are with the Junta, you are a protected species as they are beyond reproach and above the law.

Welcome to the two tier Pakistan, where you are made to be thankful for the existence of the military overlords.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

I find it funny that a lullloo like Duckys is giving thanks to Field Marshall for his release.

In any sane country a youtuber wouldn't know who the Army Chief is, nor would the army cheif give to fs about a youtuber.

Pakistan is a basket case when it comes to military involvement.

 

[emranabbas]

Not at all. Corruption has been a problem but who controls the system. The only people in power is the boots. You do what they tell you, they will love you. Corruption is not a problem for them. Only guys they see as a threat.
The difference between IK and the others is that they didn't have the bank accounts or Avenfield they could pin on him. They didn't have the materials to blackmail him and so they created the cases.
PK cant move forward until it finds a way of dealing with evil menace of the Generals. No one realised( the public)what control they had and have. Each and every problem of Corruption and abuse has been there method of control.
They have destroyed both NSs party and PPP. Both are nationalised with nothing to offer.
PK needs a vibrant 3 party system with each party fighting its corner. It doesn't need the PPP to be corrupt or the Nooras to be also corrupt. The PTI had corrupt elements, but thankfully the Generals have taken them.

I think you really need to visit Pakistan and see the ground reality for yourself, instead of blindly following people like Shahbaz Gill and Imran Riaz and being a puppet for them.


When was the last time you even went to Pakistan?


The majority of officers are corrupt, and that has nothing to do with which government is in power, it’s the people themselves. Some of those corrupt officers are from PTI


I’ve spent enough time in Pakistan with people from all classes, and corruption exists from top to bottom. Even rickshaw drivers and street vendors look for shortcuts. Many poor people don’t want to work hard, they want easy money weather that's with honest or corruption, and honestly, some of them live a more comfortable lifestyle than you even while you’re living in the UK.


Even the most corrupt person in the village will shout ‘Nawaz Sharif is a chor, we need change,’ but they never look at themselves. If people want a better future for Pakistan, they need to change themselves first before expecting the country to change. No politician or leader not Imran Khan, not Nawaz Sharif, not Zardari, not even the army can fix anything unless the public changes its mindset and priorities. I’ve seen people spend 80,000 rupees a month just on air-conditioning and then complain they don’t have food on the table. And this isn’t one or two cases; it’s widespread. People simply don’t have their priorities straight.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

A pathetic incident, prime example of banana republic

The FM has claimed he has bern appointed by Allah to be PK leader. Well the 16 yr son of the IHC judge killed women in a car accident. The Judge appointed by Munir to IHC( to let the Junta abuse their power) used his power and got the son off scot free within 4 days. The family were threatened to take the money or face the consequences. Has Allah really appointed this thug to be leader, a leader that appoints judges who through their families kill people.
Is the life of an average PK worth a grain a salt to Munir and the criminal elite

@The Bald Eagle
@Kianig89
@Major
@psyoptica

Victims’ families pardon IHC judge’s son in hit-and-run case

Teenage accused was remanded into police custody on Tuesday; brother of one victim and father of other appeared before magistrate.

www.dawn.com

 

[IronShield]

I find it funny that a lullloo like Duckys is giving thanks to Field Marshall for his release.

In any sane country a youtuber wouldn't know who the Army Chief is, nor would the army cheif give to fs about a youtuber.

Pakistan is a basket case when it comes to military involvement.

Create a problem, wait for a reaction and then suggest a solution. ... rinse repeat, rinse repeat... 70+ years pass by.

Do you even know the name of the Chief of the Army Staff of UK without googling? I certainly do not.

Ducky is an army nepo kid.

 

[Bewal Express]

I think you really need to visit Pakistan and see the ground reality for yourself, instead of blindly following people like Shahbaz Gill and Imran Riaz and being a puppet for them.


When was the last time you even went to Pakistan?


The majority of officers are corrupt, and that has nothing to do with which government is in power, it’s the people themselves. Some of those corrupt officers are from PTI


I’ve spent enough time in Pakistan with people from all classes, and corruption exists from top to bottom. Even rickshaw drivers and street vendors look for shortcuts. Many poor people don’t want to work hard, they want easy money weather that's with honest or corruption, and honestly, some of them live a more comfortable lifestyle than you even while you’re living in the UK.


Even the most corrupt person in the village will shout ‘Nawaz Sharif is a chor, we need change,’ but they never look at themselves. If people want a better future for Pakistan, they need to change themselves first before expecting the country to change. No politician or leader not Imran Khan, not Nawaz Sharif, not Zardari, not even the army can fix anything unless the public changes its mindset and priorities. I’ve seen people spend 80,000 rupees a month just on air-conditioning and then complain they don’t have food on the table. And this isn’t one or two cases; it’s widespread. People simply don’t have their priorities straight.

So you are saying something every man and their dog knows- that PK is corrupt. The question is who has created this system and who benefits from it? This isnt a natural phenomenon, its man mad by the very people that have destroyed every institution.
So can you tell me who has been in power for the vast majority of the 78 years? You seem to avoid the obvious conclusions because it destroys your own narrative. So lets here it. The forum is yours

 

[Bewal Express]

Create a problem, wait for a reaction and then suggest a solution. ... rinse repeat, rinse repeat... 70+ years pass by.

Do you even know the name of the Chief of the Army Staff of UK without googling? I certainly do not.

Ducky is an army nepo kid.

PK is has been eaten alive by the Generals. Too many of us, including me didn't want to believe the obvious- the Generals couldn't care less about PK but want power and money. They want to play God
@emranabbas in his ignorance tagged me and at the same time through the Generals under the bus. What role should a grade 22 officer have in any of this? But the reality is that they problems they claim to solve, are the very problems they created.

 

[Stewie]

The Ducky situation is really really curious. Or perhaps I am not completely in the know?

It definitely feels like Hafiz gang jumped on the opportunity to get some PR points scored, but GOING BY HIS VIDEO, it is hard not to imagine that the military mafia was in on it as well. I mean, it clearly sounded like they used the IO, and then threw him and his cohorts under the bus after the money was extorted from this guy.

Now I dont know anything about him. I have heard Ducky himself is no angel. Which all very might well be true but the timing of his video seems very opportunistic.

 

[RidiculousMan]

The Ducky situation is really really curious. Or perhaps I am not completely in the know?

It definitely feels like Hafiz gang jumped on the opportunity to get some PR points scored, but GOING BY HIS VIDEO, it is hard not to imagine that the military mafia was in on it as well. I mean, it clearly sounded like they used the IO, and then threw him and his cohorts under the bus after the money was extorted from this guy.

Now I dont know anything about him. I have heard Ducky himself is no angel. Which all very might well be true but the timing of his video seems very opportunistic.

Ducky is no Angel. He did mistakes. But he was not punished for his mistakes. That was no justice. But rather punished for some more personal issues and to make ducky a 'mark' aka 'ibrat ka nishaan' so to speak.

 

[emranabbas]

So you are saying something every man and their dog knows- that PK is corrupt. The question is who has created this system and who benefits from it? This isnt a natural phenomenon, its man mad by the very people that have destroyed every institution.
So can you tell me who has been in power for the vast majority of the 78 years? You seem to avoid the obvious conclusions because it destroys your own narrative. So lets here it. The forum is yours

And you think the guy who is in jail for corruption is going to solve pakistans corruption problems give it a rest your just getting dumber and dumber

 

[Bewal Express]

And you think the guy who is in jail for corruption is going to solve pakistans corruption problems give it a rest your just getting dumber and dumber

Absolutely. For a start he is incorruptable and that shows that after nearly 4 years not a single case can stand up in case and they know that. Hence the desperate offers for him to stay quiet and leave the country
On the other hand you have guys that live and die for money. These guys cant even keep oath to Allah and you expect them not to be corrupt.

PK is desperate for honest, incorruptable leadership. The Public trust him and that is half the battle

 

[big_gamer007]

Yes. But we can see it with our own eyes and we need to criticise it.

Agreed, that’s the only thing we can do. Unfortunately, it wouldn’t be enough as majority of the population has accepted being slaves to people in power.

Your best bet is to leave the country if you can and go to greener pastures.